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2021-05-12 23:43:59 bodhi I am authenticating using grpc interceptor. Is there a way to add userid encoded in the bearer toke into the handler?
2021-05-12 23:46:04 bodhi I am adding and API GetAuthorizedInstalledSystems. The authentication passes but the req does not contain the username. How do I get the userid to query database in the handler func.
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2021-05-13 00:25:08 b0nn bodhi: middleware
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2021-05-13 00:26:27 b0nn eg https://github.com/grpc-ecosystem/go-grpc-middleware/blob/master/auth/examples_test.go
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2021-05-13 01:01:45 bokwoon tka
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2021-05-13 01:39:12 bodhi b0nn: thanks.
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2021-05-13 01:41:56 b0nn also, long time no see, hope all is well
2021-05-13 01:42:17 bodhi b0nn: I tried using the middleware. In here I need more information about the object right now. Like I need to get some fields and some operations in there.
2021-05-13 01:42:34 bodhi b0nn: yes all well. came back to US.
2021-05-13 01:43:39 b0nn I usually prefer to have the middleware do a Redis lookup, when it needs to get info to .. fatten up.. a JWT
2021-05-13 01:44:08 b0nn When there's a cache miss 302 to a login endpoint
2021-05-13 01:44:22 b0nn that endpoint, upon successful login, populates the cache
2021-05-13 01:45:05 bodhi ok in my case I need to look into the get parameters of the object. I am trying to see if the user has ability to do the operations it is trying to do right now.
2021-05-13 01:45:33 b0nn Yeah, you're looking at the claims to see if they should have access to the resource
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2021-05-13 01:47:14 bodhi like say if I was doing (grpc rest example) GET /machines/{id}/usagestats I see that the unaryInterceptor has a req interface and nothing in it.
2021-05-13 01:47:20 bodhi will check the claims.
2021-05-13 01:47:50 bodhi basically I want access to the "id" also in the request in the interceptor.
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2021-05-13 04:14:25 absk007 I want to implement a pattern in which a directory will be scanned for certain specific interface and execute the method. It's like a plug n play kinda implementation.
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2021-05-13 04:24:36 sztanpet that could work if plugins would be easy to use, the pragmatic solution is to compile everything together as usual, make the plugins register themselves via your main api and recompile for any new "plugin" or in this case, simply new code
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2021-05-13 05:31:01 dabukalam I have a json with some data where the value is also the key, and i'm struggling to unmarshal it into a nested struct. https://ghostbin.co/paste/dv8f
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2021-05-13 05:33:27 dabukalam bah, pastebin slightly wrong - there is no "info:", just {}
2021-05-13 05:34:50 b0nn hmm shouldn't users be a []
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2021-05-13 05:38:17 fizzie That JSON just doesn't correspond to that struct. The variable `users` just has three (leaf) string fields, no more.
2021-05-13 05:40:40 dabukalam right - the challenge I have is that I'm not sure how to actually pull out the name
2021-05-13 05:40:47 dabukalam (since it's the key)
2021-05-13 05:40:56 dabukalam suspect it's easy and i'm being stupid
2021-05-13 05:41:19 fizzie You'd unmarshal it like this, for example: https://play.golang.org/p/py48yTEWpIc
2021-05-13 05:41:42 fizzie And what comes out would be a map.
2021-05-13 05:42:56 fizzie And the tags are optional because there's some default mappings going on; it works the same as https://play.golang.org/p/EywYZOlOKyQ
2021-05-13 05:43:04 fizzie (But of course you might want to be explicit about it anyway.)
2021-05-13 05:45:10 fizzie (Oh, and you'd need the tags if you intend to json.Marshal it back with the same keys.)
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2021-05-13 05:50:54 b0nn I've got some json, I Unmarshal it into a sturct *then* I loop over every struct that I have just created, and fish the data out into maps
2021-05-13 05:51:04 b0nn I am really really not happy with my solution
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2021-05-13 05:51:58 b0nn https://play.golang.org/p/XyX8gD9hICs
2021-05-13 05:52:47 b0nn I'm sure I'm doing it wrong, I just cannot think of a cleaner method (even /with/ reflect I still need to switch on different types so that I can handle them proerply)
2021-05-13 05:53:25 fizzie I don't have any obviously cleaner method structurally, but you don't need all that if-else business to do that.
2021-05-13 05:53:42 fizzie The zero value of a []*User is nil, and you can append to a nil slice to create the one-element slice.
2021-05-13 05:53:58 fizzie So you can do your `else` branch unconditionally.
2021-05-13 05:55:06 b0nn hm that will clean up a lot of boilerplate, I'll just commit before a change and see how I get on
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2021-05-13 05:57:58 b0nn https://play.golang.org/p/oNPsIpZ4fPf
2021-05-13 06:00:24 b0nn I mean, it's never going to be the prettiest :(
2021-05-13 06:00:43 b0nn I'd rather shove it in a DB TBH and let /it/ create the indexes
2021-05-13 06:01:15 b0nn (FTR this is from some homework I did in January, and they knocked me back on account that my search was linear)
2021-05-13 06:02:04 b0nn So, I have spent the last couple of months reviewing trees, and search and such, to try and get a better understanding of how I could have done it better
2021-05-13 06:03:25 b0nn i am still quite unhappy about the solution, because the hashing function for maps is actually quite expensive, and it's ugly, and will chew up a LOT of memory in a decent sized input
2021-05-13 06:04:09 b0nn But I cannot find a tree that I can put the items in that will give me search on every struct, and every field in every struct
2021-05-13 06:07:00 bodhi b0nn: thank you for the suggestion on the claims. I readup about it and implemented it. It works very well.
2021-05-13 06:07:23 dabukalam fizzie: thank you very much, that's helped me click things into place actually
2021-05-13 06:07:25 dabukalam i think
2021-05-13 06:07:32 b0nn bodhi: oh, nice
2021-05-13 06:07:59 bodhi Are you aware of any admission controls? Similar to authorization and authentication. Is there any admission control that I can introduce in grpc?
2021-05-13 06:09:09 b0nn bodhi: This might be a worthwhile read https://curity.io/resources/learn/jwt-best-practices/
2021-05-13 06:10:08 b0nn With my preferred option https://curity.io/resources/learn/phantom-token-pattern/
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2021-05-13 06:11:14 b0nn If you have a phantom token it means that your FE devs cannot couple the app to the token claims (with the downside that they *must* make calls for stuff, they cannot check if the JWT they have would confirm or deny access)
2021-05-13 06:11:50 b0nn As for your actual question - not I
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2021-05-13 06:28:17 bodhi b0nn: I see. I am working on a model where FE and BE could create a common model of access. They both use a service to know whether the token has access to a resource or not and then allow/[deny/show]
2021-05-13 06:28:37 bodhi Do you know of anything that was built with this phantom model? opensource side?
2021-05-13 06:28:55 bodhi btw how are you doing? Still interviewing or you found a good place to park?
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2021-05-13 06:35:01 b0nn So, the argument against FE/BE sharing knowledge is coupling/ownership - if you want to change the nature of the claims, you need to have a discussion with FE to see how much work it will be for them to no longer use the claims
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2021-05-13 06:36:16 b0nn So, let's say you have a claim that denotes administration, but your BE decides that, in fact, there are two types of admin, site admin, and domain admin (or whatever) - but FE has tied a LOT of code to the admin claim - changing it is super painful for them
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2021-05-13 06:36:38 b0nn (Sure, it won't be fun for BE either as they will have, no doubt, coupled hard too
2021-05-13 06:36:58 b0nn But, as the owners they can make changes they feel are appropriate
2021-05-13 06:37:17 b0nn WRT known implementations, no, not off the top of my head
2021-05-13 06:37:56 b0nn And, finally, work - I keep fluctuating between turning roles down or triggering people, so they turn me down
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2021-05-13 06:39:17 b0nn I turned one down this morning (because it was a 3 hour flight north of me and I felt that if the venture didn't pan out, I'd be stuck up there. And I turned one down on Friday because I was led to believe that 3 days a week would be remote, but during the interview they recanted/reneged and said it was 100% in office
2021-05-13 06:40:01 b0nn They also tried to play dumb on the expected salary - so I felt that they couldn't be trusted
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2021-05-13 06:40:54 b0nn I have a remote gig that I have turned down twice, because it's not enough money, but I am seriously starting to think I should just hold my nose and do it - purely to be doing something
2021-05-13 06:44:12 b0nn Knowing my luck, though, as soon as I accept they will pull the offer
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2021-05-13 07:11:02 uskerine hi, how do I convert an epoch timestamp into a time object at a given timezone?
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2021-05-13 07:15:27 timkofu Hi
2021-05-13 07:16:22 sztanpet uskerine a unix timestamp is always in utc, and you convert from a timestamp to a time object via https://golang.org/pkg/time/#Unix
2021-05-13 07:17:03 KirkMcDonald time.Unix only operates in the local timezone.
2021-05-13 07:17:13 sztanpet and to convert to another timezone, use https://golang.org/pkg/time/#Time.In
2021-05-13 07:17:53 KirkMcDonald Yeah.
2021-05-13 07:18:00 uskerine fmt.Println("The time was", time.Unix(epoch, 0).Format(time.RFC822Z))
2021-05-13 07:18:05 uskerine sorry wrong paste
2021-05-13 07:18:06 uskerine forget that
2021-05-13 07:18:13 uskerine https://play.golang.org/p/YHxAPI64s2E
2021-05-13 07:18:16 uskerine this is what I want
2021-05-13 07:18:36 bodhi good luck b0nn I am sure you will find a good match. :-)
2021-05-13 07:18:50 * uskerine is reading In
2021-05-13 07:19:22 uskerine https://play.golang.org/p/vj-TXb6kE_t
2021-05-13 07:19:24 uskerine good! thanks
2021-05-13 07:28:02 SoF does anyone know a good language-server-protocol library in go?
2021-05-13 07:28:07 SoF to make my own server, that is
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2021-05-13 08:03:04 absk007 I want to implement a pattern in which a directory will be scanned for certain specific interface and execute the method. It's like a plug n play kinda implementation.
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2021-05-13 08:07:00 CommunistWolf a... directory?
2021-05-13 08:07:20 CommunistWolf if you're looking for a registry sort of pattern, then the one database/sql implements might be handy to look at
2021-05-13 08:07:55 CommunistWolf if you're looking for dynamic plugins, I shall say a prayer for you
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2021-05-13 08:09:07 uskerine if I do want to convert int to uint32, I see there is a conversion uint() but, how do I know that it is actually uint32_
2021-05-13 08:09:10 uskerine ?
2021-05-13 08:09:55 shunkica check the value if the int first?
2021-05-13 08:10:20 uskerine I mean does uint() returns uint32 or uint64?
2021-05-13 08:10:28 KirkMcDonald Depends on the architecture.
2021-05-13 08:10:32 shunkica i guess that is system dependant
2021-05-13 08:10:35 KirkMcDonald But if you want uint32, then just use uint32.
2021-05-13 08:10:35 uskerine in a 64bits box?
2021-05-13 08:16:17 uskerine so reading the doc, I understand this would be the way to get a 64 bits from a string -> https://play.golang.org/p/Kr-wrxUsOUu
2021-05-13 08:16:30 uskerine sorry, a 32 bits
2021-05-13 08:17:14 shunkica I have two fields in a struct and only one must be set (they are exclusive). For example struct{x string, y struct}. The problem is I can't know which one of the fields has been set since I cant assign nil to string or struct. Is there another way of doing this, besides adding a third field which will hold an indicator as to which of the two fields
2021-05-13 08:17:15 shunkica has been set?
2021-05-13 08:18:07 CoolerX Hi
2021-05-13 08:18:32 CoolerX how does this get encoded as metadata? https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/apis/apps/types.go#L270
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2021-05-13 08:18:55 CoolerX when doing json.Marshal how does that struct get encoded under the key `metadata` ?
2021-05-13 08:19:32 CoolerX for example here https://bpa.st/WZDQ
2021-05-13 08:19:44 CoolerX encoded to yaml in that case
2021-05-13 08:20:54 seankhliao shunkica: is the default value (empty string, empty struct) valid? otherwise use a pointer
2021-05-13 08:24:36 shunkica Yes that is my problem. the empty value is also valid. I don't understand how would I use a pointer to solve this problem?
2021-05-13 08:25:02 sztanpet check if the pointer is nil, if it is, the value is definitely unset
2021-05-13 08:29:44 sztanpet CoolerX anonymous embedded structs are marshalled as if their fields were in the outer struct, see https://play.golang.org/p/j7wH3phCgvx
2021-05-13 08:30:27 CoolerX sztanpet, yes that's what I expect, but instead it gets marshalled under the key `metadata`
2021-05-13 08:30:36 CoolerX see https://bpa.st/WZDQ
2021-05-13 08:31:21 sztanpet CoolerX so? read their code and see how they do it, im not at all familiar with kubernetes, i just told you the default behavior
2021-05-13 08:31:40 sztanpet they can have custom marshallers, etc
2021-05-13 08:32:04 CoolerX sure
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2021-05-13 08:39:31 nezxan still struggling with interfaces? https://tour.golang.org/methods/9 see the Note here ... but I thought methods with pointer recievers can either take a reciever or a value and it doesn't matter
2021-05-13 08:39:39 nezxan somehow with interfaces it does matter?
2021-05-13 08:40:22 shunkica @sztanpet How do I check if the pointer is null? "if *x == nil" and *x == *nil" doesn't compile (invalid indirect), and "if &x == nil" always returns true.
2021-05-13 08:40:35 sztanpet nezxan maybe this will help https://golang.org/ref/spec#Method_sets
2021-05-13 08:40:42 sztanpet shunkica if x == nil
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2021-05-13 08:41:28 sztanpet shunkica remember, * is when you dereference a pointer, & is when you take the address of a variable, so if you dont have any of them, that is the value of the pointer aka the memory location
2021-05-13 08:41:45 shunkica But that just gives me cannot convert nil to type string/struct
2021-05-13 08:41:56 sztanpet that just means you dont have a pointer type
2021-05-13 08:42:06 sztanpet maybe start with tour.golang.org
2021-05-13 08:43:23 shunkica Oh I think I get it. You say i should replace string inside my struct with pointer to string.
2021-05-13 08:43:30 shunkica then check if pointer is nil
2021-05-13 08:43:36 sztanpet exactly
2021-05-13 08:44:22 shunkica That might work for me in this case. Thank you
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2021-05-13 08:51:00 uskerine is there sptrinf in go?
2021-05-13 08:51:08 SamWhited fmt.Sprintf
2021-05-13 08:51:19 uskerine I see
2021-05-13 08:51:21 uskerine thanks
2021-05-13 08:51:54 nezxan sztanpet: I think I get it now
2021-05-13 08:53:10 nezxan there's not much to get now that I think about it. It's just that interfaces work that way. If a method is defined on a pointer, only the pointer type will implement the accompanying interface
2021-05-13 08:54:26 nezxan how methods with pointer recievers behave when they are passed a value or pointer is a separate issue altogether
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2021-05-13 08:56:48 absk007 CommunistWolf, I'm looking for a registry sort of pattern where the modules implemented in the directory follow a certain pattern and my main code and execute the interface with a certain input. The modules would take forward from there and return the value/output. Can you provide an example? You mentioned "the one db/sl implements"? Which one?
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2021-05-13 08:59:25 edrocks absk007 you end up having a file with a bunch of imports to auto register the sub directories as interface implementations upon init()
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2021-05-13 08:59:52 edrocks db/sql is an example and the image format packages also do something similar
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2021-05-13 09:02:52 uskerine how do I convert int to time.Month?
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2021-05-13 09:03:53 KirkMcDonald uskerine: time.Month(x)
2021-05-13 09:04:06 KirkMcDonald time.Month is just an int to start with. So you can just use a conversion.
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2021-05-13 09:30:46 uskerine can I initialise a slice of structs of capacity and length n to 0 values?
2021-05-13 09:31:09 uskerine so, if i do mySlice := make([]myStruct, 100, 100), what I am actually doing?
2021-05-13 09:31:35 uskerine am I allocating capacity for 100 elements but the length of the slice is still 0?
2021-05-13 09:33:38 KirkMcDonald No, that will have a length of 100.
2021-05-13 09:33:53 uskerine well actually I do mySlice := make(myStruct, 100, 100) it tells me cannot make type myStruct
2021-05-13 09:34:09 KirkMcDonald Correct. make() does not work with a struct.
2021-05-13 09:34:25 KirkMcDonald make works with slice, map, and channel types.
2021-05-13 09:35:10 KirkMcDonald https://golang.org/ref/spec#Making_slices_maps_and_channels
2021-05-13 09:35:15 uskerine so mySlice := make([]myStruct, 100, 100) creates a slice of type []myStruct which already contains 100 elements, if I do mySlice[0] that is valid, right?
2021-05-13 09:35:21 KirkMcDonald Yes.
2021-05-13 09:35:26 uskerine ok understood, thanks
2021-05-13 09:35:37 KirkMcDonald Note that this is equivalent to make([]myStruct, 100)
2021-05-13 09:35:48 KirkMcDonald (If you don't give a capacity, it is equal to the length.)
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2021-05-13 09:53:09 uskerine I have a struct and I would like to fmt.Print as json, where shall I start looking/googling?
2021-05-13 09:53:32 uskerine I have a slice of structs*
2021-05-13 09:54:09 KirkMcDonald uskerine: The encoding/json package is probably the place to start.
2021-05-13 09:54:18 sztanpet uskerine https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/json/#example_Marshal
2021-05-13 09:57:24 uskerine https://play.golang.org/p/qtpnGUhLNXG
2021-05-13 09:57:39 * uskerine is looking example Marshal
2021-05-13 09:59:53 j416 uskerine: https://play.golang.org/p/4WHv-gtpMyh
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2021-05-13 10:11:17 uskerine j416 thanks! it is surprisingly simple
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2021-05-13 10:14:27 CoolerX Hi
2021-05-13 10:14:51 rawtaz yesterday we discussed closing a handle from os.FindProcess and someone pointed to a similar example at https://github.com/shirou/gopsutil/blob/master/process/process_windows.go#L224 . is it not better to syscall.CloseHandle() right after the OpenProcess, as we discussed yesterday? here they dont, they have *returning* error checking before the close, which i guess could leak. also, why do they defer it?
2021-05-13 10:15:00 CoolerX In this code https://bpa.st/raw/7Z3Q why is the 2nd json output different from the first?
2021-05-13 10:15:09 rawtaz s/why do they/is there any reason to/
2021-05-13 10:15:23 CoolerX in the 2nd json output the ObjectMeta struct gets marshalled under the key `metadata`
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2021-05-13 10:15:43 CoolerX while in the 1st json output the members of the ObjectMeta struct are embedded at the top level
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2021-05-13 10:16:37 CoolerX This is the output https://bpa.st/raw/BWDQ
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2021-05-13 10:18:15 KirkMcDonald CoolerX: That struct defines a json tag: https://pkg.go.dev/k8s.io/api/apps/v1#Deployment
2021-05-13 10:18:28 CoolerX oh I found it
2021-05-13 10:18:30 CoolerX KirkMcDonald, thanks
2021-05-13 10:19:33 CoolerX unrelated but does the +optional comment do anything? https://github.com/kubernetes/api/blob/v0.21.0/apps/v1/types.go#L257
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2021-05-13 10:22:35 CoolerX KirkMcDonald, oh this is why I got confused https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/apis/apps/types.go#L270
2021-05-13 10:22:49 CoolerX the struct is defined there as well but doesn't have the struct tag
2021-05-13 10:23:39 CoolerX but that's an internal struct
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2021-05-13 10:40:53 nezxan small question https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P96GnP6DsS/ so variable p is a pointer to type T (therefore *main.T), but a pointer to a type by itself doesn't point to any value or struct, therefore value of p is <nil>
2021-05-13 10:41:00 nezxan is this line of reasoning correct?
2021-05-13 10:41:36 fizzie I'd replace the later half by "but the zero value of any pointer type is nil, so the value of p is nil".
2021-05-13 10:42:03 nezxan fizzie: oh thanks, that does make more sense
2021-05-13 10:42:07 fizzie `var p *T` is nil for the same reason as `var i int` is 0 and `var s string` is "".
2021-05-13 10:42:16 nezxan yep, got you
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2021-05-13 11:36:17 Tv` CoolerX: that +optional looks like a (misguided) kubernetes internal mechanism
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2021-05-13 11:36:26 Tv` (it clearly doesn't belong in that comment)
2021-05-13 11:37:04 Tv` CoolerX: kubernetes source is not great Go, and it has a ridiculous amount of internal javaesque abstractions, so this probably ties into that framework
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2021-05-13 11:59:34 dr0n Hello, is it possible to use multiple conditions when compare if one or more elements in a slice of integers; for example
2021-05-13 11:59:58 dr0n if number == 1 && number == 2 and number != 5
2021-05-13 12:00:12 dr0n number is a slice
2021-05-13 12:00:15 Tv` a number equals both 1 and 2 at the same time?
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2021-05-13 12:00:33 dr0n number is a []int that contains 1,2,3,4 but not 5
2021-05-13 12:01:07 dr0n sorry, let me write it down in the playground and show what i am doing
2021-05-13 12:01:27 Tv` that's a for loop, an if for things it cannot contain, and a set of things that still must be seen
2021-05-13 12:02:02 Tv` also please reconsider naming a slice with a singular name "number"
2021-05-13 12:02:36 dr0n https://play.golang.org/p/Mo8sspnHBaQ
2021-05-13 12:02:59 Tv` also, this sounds like one of those silly code exercise things, so do your own homework
2021-05-13 12:03:00 dr0n again, part of a exercise;
2021-05-13 12:03:36 dr0n I got stuck on that for a while, and came to ask for an advise
2021-05-13 12:03:49 dr0n but you are right, its one of those small code exercises
2021-05-13 12:09:15 Tv` 10:01 <Tv`> that's a for loop, an if for things it cannot contain, and a set of things that still must be seen
2021-05-13 12:09:21 Tv` telling you more would be doing your homework for you
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2021-05-13 12:11:15 dr0n thank you!
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2021-05-13 12:11:40 dr0n I will try it
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2021-05-13 12:13:32 fizzie Instead of a slice, you may also find the type `map[int]bool` (or a `map[int]struct{}`) useful if you need a set of integers that conveniently supports operations such as "is this integer in it?". https://blog.golang.org/maps#TOC_4. has more detail on that.
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2021-05-13 12:16:07 dr0n thank you fizzie ; I will read that as well
2021-05-13 12:19:23 CoolerX Tv`, "javaesque abstractions," ?
2021-05-13 12:19:37 CoolerX you mean wrappers?
2021-05-13 12:19:40 Tv` CoolerX: yes, Kubernetes early days were in java
2021-05-13 12:21:12 Tv` dr0n: yes, a set of T in Go is typically a map[T]struct{}
2021-05-13 12:21:35 CoolerX Tv`, I think +optional thing is for documentation maybe?
2021-05-13 12:21:43 CoolerX mark it as optional in the documentation
2021-05-13 12:21:56 Tv` well that sure ain't a a Go convention
2021-05-13 12:22:04 CoolerX or maybe for vscode
2021-05-13 12:22:12 CoolerX and other editors
2021-05-13 12:22:20 CoolerX actually gopls
2021-05-13 12:22:41 CoolerX since it's inside a comment
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2021-05-13 12:24:03 CoolerX Tv`, what abstraction in particular is javaesque in their code?
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2021-05-13 12:25:48 Tv` CoolerX: that's a pretty darn big conversation, not one to be had on irc idly
2021-05-13 12:26:29 CoolerX XD
2021-05-13 12:27:08 CoolerX java has a lot of abstractions
2021-05-13 12:27:35 CoolerX s/has/allows
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2021-05-13 12:47:23 nezxan kind of a meta question, but do you have some kind of max width limit when programming and if so, set to what?
2021-05-13 12:47:33 nezxan cause I am using 80, but I think I should up it to 100
2021-05-13 12:48:28 KirkMcDonald I may be crazy, but I tend to use 80-column terminals, but with no actual length limit on lines.
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2021-05-13 12:51:30 bpalmer I have no formal max width limit; in practice, most lines are below 80, and I will actively try to break lines up when they are > 100.
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2021-05-13 12:51:43 bpalmer (when programming go, at least).
2021-05-13 12:52:05 nezxan I write a lot of comments in my programs (as I am learning) and they are the only lines breaking the 80 barrier regularly
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2021-05-13 12:52:37 bpalmer ah, comments, I am ruthless about keepin below 80
2021-05-13 12:53:03 nezxan yeah should have specified
2021-05-13 12:53:06 nezxan k, thanks
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2021-05-13 12:53:44 bpalmer The only times I want long lines is when it's all one bit of logic and I'm fine with people only reading/scrolling to the end when they're actively considering the line.
2021-05-13 12:54:07 nezxan I guess it makes sense, I just checked, and 80 means even with some clutter from the UI and DE you should be able to have two files side by side on a normal 1080p screen
2021-05-13 12:54:20 bpalmer For example, suppose I happen to be calling a function with, oh, 15 parameters, and all the parameters are simple (e.g., already named variables)
2021-05-13 12:54:24 nezxan my terminal spawn shortcut even by default spwans a terminal with width 80
2021-05-13 12:55:07 nezxan bpalmer: makes sense
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2021-05-13 13:53:40 dunnousername is there a way to have a main function in a package named something other than main? If my code contains multiple source files, do they all need to be package main?
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2021-05-13 13:56:34 icholy you cannot have more than one main function in a package
2021-05-13 13:56:58 icholy why do you want more than one main funcion?
2021-05-13 13:57:15 fizzie It won't be the main function of a binary if it's not a function called `main` in a package called `main`, but you can of course just call any other function from main, and so spread out as much (or little) logic as you wish to other packages.
2021-05-13 13:57:41 dunnousername I don't want more than one. I come from python, where the package is always the name of the folder, and I'm not sure I fully understand packages in go
2021-05-13 13:58:07 dunnousername well not exactly, but it relates to filenames
2021-05-13 13:58:36 dunnousername I wasn't sure if it was normal to have main functions in packages
2021-05-13 13:58:50 dunnousername not sure if that makes sense
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2021-05-13 14:00:45 fizzie That's a very Python thing, that idea of having "optional" main functions in packages that are mostly used as libraries but export some sort of functionality when executed as a program. I've not really seen that sort of thing in Go.
2021-05-13 14:01:00 dunnousername I see.
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2021-05-13 14:02:15 dunnousername How should I structure a project that I want to create (only) an executable binary, then? Should it all be package main, even if its multiple source files?
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2021-05-13 14:03:34 dunnousername Oh, it looks like Go has a module system for projects. I just figured that out
2021-05-13 14:03:57 seankhliao Go operates on a package level (all *.go files in a directory)
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2021-05-13 14:04:40 fizzie dunnousername: The organization is kind of up to you. If no other Go code anywhere is going to depend on it, and you want a single binary, the simplest choice is to just put everything in `package main`. The main (no pun intended) alternative would be to put the main package(s) in (one or more .go file in) folders called `cmd/foo`, `cmd/bar`, which then call exported functions from other packages in the
2021-05-13 14:04:46 fizzie repository that are not called `main`.
2021-05-13 14:05:16 dunnousername that makes sense
2021-05-13 14:05:39 dunnousername so is seankhliao saying that each file is not its own package, but each folder is, sort of?
2021-05-13 14:06:14 fizzie Yes.
2021-05-13 14:06:36 dunnousername that makes sense
2021-05-13 14:07:50 fizzie File names within a folder are more or less ignored, except that files that end with `_test.go` aren't included in the package itself, but are tests instead. (By convention `foo_test.go` will have tests for the pieces of code in `foo.go`.)
2021-05-13 14:09:12 fizzie https://golang.org/doc/code has an overview, though not so much about the conventional project structure but more about the basic building blocks.
2021-05-13 14:09:24 seankhliao also the special something_platform.go
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2021-05-13 17:12:54 dr0n if a function needs to return a variable, for example, (result string) is that automatically creates and initiates the variable
2021-05-13 17:13:05 dr0n e.g. doing var result string
2021-05-13 17:15:32 b0nn the variable that the function returns has to exist - whether that's from a named return, an initialisation in the body, or an initialisation in the return statement
2021-05-13 17:15:59 b0nn I think, though, you should write a bit of code showing what you are trying to achieve, and where you're stuck
2021-05-13 17:16:23 dr0n I couldn't resolve one of the tasks, and I found a solution that someone else's done
2021-05-13 17:16:26 dr0n and trying to understand it
2021-05-13 17:17:42 b0nn post it to play.golang.org ?
2021-05-13 17:18:00 dr0n one sec
2021-05-13 17:18:22 dr0n https://play.golang.org/p/Oo8sICQt0x6
2021-05-13 17:19:20 dr0n p.s. again, this is not something I wrote. it's one of the solutions I found. in line 24 there is a return part of the function, but inside of the body that variable wasn't create
2021-05-13 17:19:36 dr0n also loaded the code in the IDE, and seems it's been created under the hood
2021-05-13 17:19:50 dr0n just wanted to double check
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2021-05-13 17:21:16 b0nn ok, line 24 is using "Named returns"
2021-05-13 17:21:32 b0nn https://tour.golang.org/basics/7
2021-05-13 17:22:02 b0nn The general rule is to /not/ use the technique unless the function body is short, because of the confusion this generates
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2021-05-13 17:22:25 b0nn named return values with naked returns :\
2021-05-13 17:23:32 dr0n nice, got it
2021-05-13 17:23:53 dr0n thank you b0nn
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2021-05-13 18:11:21 CommunistWolf amazing how many features of go it's best avoiding, really
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2021-05-13 18:14:26 gpeskens How does one initialize an C array of C structs using cgo? I need to call a C function that expects an array of N structs, and I want to wrap this
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2021-05-13 18:23:40 fizzie A C function that expects an array of N structs usually expects a pointer to the first element of such an array, and if memory serves (assuming the C function isn't going to hold on to that pointer) that's just a matter of explicitly passing `&arr[0]` from Go, after allocating a Go array or slice as usual.
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2021-05-13 18:32:56 gpeskens Great :)
2021-05-13 18:37:01 fizzie Some support for that thought: https://golang.org/cmd/cgo/#hdr-Passing_pointers "Go code may pass a Go pointer to C provided the Go memory to which it points does not contain any Go pointers. -- When passing a pointer to an element in an array or slice, the Go memory in question is the entire array or the entire backing array of the slice."
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2021-05-13 19:18:44 Vaelatern What kind of idiot mistake am I making when I get panic: runtime error: hash of unhashable type main.MyStruct ?
2021-05-13 19:19:34 CommunistWolf the key type has to be comparable
2021-05-13 19:19:36 CommunistWolf https://golang.org/ref/spec#Comparison_operators
2021-05-13 19:20:05 CommunistWolf > Struct values are comparable if all their fields are comparable
2021-05-13 19:20:20 CommunistWolf so one of the fields must not match those rules
2021-05-13 19:20:27 Vaelatern My key type is string... my Struct has 2 fields, string and map[string]AnotherStruct
2021-05-13 19:20:46 CommunistWolf oh, it's the value? fun
2021-05-13 19:21:05 Vaelatern (I'm playing with bazel/fuse so they may be enforcing something on my object I'm not expecting)
2021-05-13 19:21:29 CommunistWolf ah, probably. no idea about those
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2021-05-13 19:23:32 Vaelatern Yeah, it seems MyStruct is used as a map key
2021-05-13 19:27:58 bpalmer so you'll need to write a function that creates a comparable value for the MyStruct, and use that as the map key instead.
2021-05-13 19:28:47 Tv` Vaelatern: did you mean bazil.org/fuse?
2021-05-13 19:29:06 Tv` or bazel the build system, which i didn't know had a fuse component to it
2021-05-13 19:29:59 Vaelatern bazil.org/fuse
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2021-05-13 19:30:14 Tv` Vaelatern: how'd you end up with that error?
2021-05-13 19:30:18 bpalmer actually, re-reading, it 's still not clear what is being used as a key type, since you say it's string
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2021-05-13 19:30:29 Vaelatern Tried to store a map[string]File in my Dir struct
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2021-05-13 19:30:36 Vaelatern So my Dir is being used as a key
2021-05-13 19:30:42 Vaelatern in another map inside the fuse library
2021-05-13 19:31:24 Vaelatern I've spent too long in higher level languages, and now I need a fuse system (or am choosing to implement it this way..) so here I am back in golang world :)
2021-05-13 19:32:12 Tv` Vaelatern: ah right yeah, nodeRef does that
2021-05-13 19:32:29 Tv` yes fs.Node needs to be valid as map key, i'm not sure if that's documented
2021-05-13 19:32:47 internut My co-worker is digging into bazil.org/fuse
2021-05-13 19:32:56 Tv` it's needed so when you return a Node from Lookups and such, it can recognize whether that's already known to the kernel or not
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2021-05-13 19:33:30 Vaelatern Makes sense to me, are you a local subject matter expert on bazil.org/fuse ?
2021-05-13 19:33:53 Tv` Vaelatern: rsc wrote the beginnings of it, i wrote the rest
2021-05-13 19:34:19 Vaelatern So Very.
2021-05-13 19:34:35 Tv` ah there we go
2021-05-13 19:34:38 Tv` / A Node must be usable as a map key, that is, it cannot be a
2021-05-13 19:34:39 Tv` // function, map or slice.
2021-05-13 19:34:40 Tv` documented!
2021-05-13 19:34:56 Wessie "not my fault" - Tv`
2021-05-13 19:35:09 Vaelatern Documented!
2021-05-13 19:35:11 Tv` i wonder if there's a neat runtime check for that
2021-05-13 19:35:26 Tv` i mean, apart from the panic seen
2021-05-13 19:35:57 Tv` not that it'd really help, i wouldn't enable that code in normal operation, and filesystems are free to have as many Node implementations as they need
2021-05-13 19:35:58 Vaelatern I've been running off of the examples though, since the documentation is either very overwhelming (every single function!) or the quickstart
2021-05-13 19:36:15 Tv` and the mistakes will bubble up pretty quick.. though not very discoverable, perhaps
2021-05-13 19:36:51 Tv` Vaelatern: https://bazil.org/talks/ https://github.com/bazil/zipfs https://github.com/bazil/bolt-mount
2021-05-13 19:36:53 Wessie does it have some type of type-cache?
2021-05-13 19:37:11 Vaelatern Question for you: large files. Read() returns []bytes. I can't stuff a large file in there, do you just return the first N kb of the file, and then let the attr() check tell the kernel it's not the end of the file?
2021-05-13 19:37:27 Tv` Wessie: i don't really care about types, i just call Node methods
2021-05-13 19:37:31 Vaelatern thanks for the resources!
2021-05-13 19:38:17 Tv` Vaelatern: https://pkg.go.dev/bazil.org/fuse#ReadRequest Offset and Size
2021-05-13 19:38:49 Tv` Vaelatern: for seekable files, kernel won't request offsets past the file size
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2021-05-13 19:39:11 Vaelatern so for non-seekable files I just need to mark it non-seekable
2021-05-13 19:39:25 Tv` Wessie: what it could have is something like fusetest.CheckNode(&myNodeImplementation{})
2021-05-13 19:39:40 Vaelatern and then just look at Size for my action
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2021-05-13 19:39:56 Tv` Vaelatern: iirc zipfs is non-seekable
2021-05-13 19:40:33 Tv` Vaelatern: yeah steal this: https://github.com/bazil/zipfs/blob/master/main.go#L210-L226
2021-05-13 19:41:06 Tv` (page cache for a handle can be turned off too)
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2021-05-13 19:41:36 Vaelatern yay! Thank you!
2021-05-13 19:42:15 Vaelatern Page cache shouldn't matter if my content will be the same, right? Serving static-content (dynamic creation of static assets) non-seekable resources
2021-05-13 19:42:26 Tv` yeah
2021-05-13 19:42:56 Tv` also ain't no such thing as a dynamic static asset ;)
2021-05-13 19:43:17 Vaelatern but I won buzzword bingo
2021-05-13 19:43:35 Vaelatern but seriously thank you
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2021-05-13 19:45:37 Tv` Vaelatern: also I think all you need to do is make your Node values be pointers
2021-05-13 19:49:13 Vaelatern I ended up doing that and it fixed my Dir problem
2021-05-13 19:49:24 Vaelatern now I'm playing with successfully dereferencing that for Lookup
2021-05-13 19:53:45 Vaelatern yay!
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2021-05-15 11:20:24 fizzie nezxan: Well, your MyStruct is reasonable enough, I guess. If you happened to have an "error code" made out of two integers. You'd just be sure to use `&MyStruct{0, 1}` instead of `MyStruct{0, 1}` when you want a literal that can be returned from a function with an `error` return type. And it'll work as expected then (formatted using that Error method and so on).
2021-05-15 11:20:36 kinduff hello, im looking for good resources to use go as a web server, including serving html, css, js, etc.
2021-05-15 11:20:56 kinduff i'm wondering if these static files are usually compiled into the binary
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2021-05-15 11:23:20 fizzie nezxan: Here's something between what you wrote and that Tour example which might be a borderline reasonable custom error type: https://play.golang.org/p/AoF9G6i3YMz
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2021-05-15 11:26:37 bookworm kinduff: depends how many / how big and how static they are
2021-05-15 11:27:08 bookworm if they change frequently, embedding them into the binary can be suboptimal
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2021-05-15 11:27:24 bookworm if it's a simple control interface for some backend thing, sure why not
2021-05-15 11:30:19 kinduff thanks bookworm, do you think it's worth to do a full blown web app using go? im taking a look into some frameworks
2021-05-15 11:30:29 kinduff but im wondering if go really shines as an API instead
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2021-05-15 11:30:52 bookworm go doesn't particularly care what you use ;) humans do
2021-05-15 11:31:22 bookworm there are multiple camps, some say don't use any framework, other say use helpers (gorilla/mux etc) and others say reinvent the wheel
2021-05-15 11:31:29 bookworm pick your favorite camp
2021-05-15 11:31:57 bookworm ehm, forgot to add the use framework people but you get the gist
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2021-05-15 11:32:31 bookworm I'd go with the middle ground, use a proper router but don't go into a framework that is very opinionated
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2021-05-15 11:34:28 kinduff makes sense, hard for me since i come from RoR, gotta remove that mvc paradigm from my head for a bit
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2021-05-15 11:35:59 jemaclus kinduff: my full-time job for the last four years has been building backend services in Go for web/mobile apps. It's very suitable for it.
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2021-05-15 11:36:43 kinduff jemaclus, that's nice! only apis?
2021-05-15 11:37:53 jemaclus well, everything that supports a web app. APIs, CLI tooling, background worker job type things
2021-05-15 11:37:56 jemaclus but yes
2021-05-15 11:38:46 kinduff interesting, are there many companies that are built using go?
2021-05-15 11:39:01 bookworm it depends no what you call a "web app".... keep in mind both server side rendering and client side rendering are a thing
2021-05-15 11:39:20 bookworm many kinduff
2021-05-15 11:39:39 jemaclus Tons and tons.
2021-05-15 11:39:44 bookworm but honestly, just pick a language that you like...
2021-05-15 11:40:33 bookworm really any modern language can do a webserver these days, python, ruby, go, rust, php, perl... take your pick. As long as you are comfortable using them they don't differ much
2021-05-15 11:40:33 jemaclus When I started at my company 4 years ago, we were a RoR shop, and I was the only engineer that knew Go. I built the first Go microservice, kinda blew their minds, and now the entire company of 200+ engineers writes in Go.
2021-05-15 11:40:44 kinduff yeah, i have over 10 years of experience with ruby, node, python, php
2021-05-15 11:40:55 jemaclus Nothing wrong with Ruby or Python or PHP, though. If you dig it, go for it. But I think Go is the most fun to write, so it's the one I write the most.
2021-05-15 11:41:00 kinduff but now that ive been doing some stuff with go, it's starting to interest me
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2021-05-15 11:41:18 jemaclus Yeah, I wrote PHP and Ruby for 10 years before I picked up Go.
2021-05-15 11:41:21 kinduff jemaclus, that's pretty nice!
2021-05-15 11:41:37 bookworm php is lots of things, nice isn't one of them :P
2021-05-15 11:41:51 kinduff haha here we go
2021-05-15 11:43:50 jemaclus I didn't say it was nice :) But the recent versions are as close to "nice" as PHP has ever been.
2021-05-15 11:44:53 kinduff +1
2021-05-15 11:46:02 jemaclus if you do come from an OOP background, there are some hurdles to learning Go. It took me probably 6 months to wrap my head around "the Go way"... but now I look at OOP and i'm like "wtf are those bozos thinking" :)
2021-05-15 11:46:33 jemaclus well, should clarify that OOP is a perfectly valid paradigm... I just prefer more functional programming these days.
2021-05-15 11:47:37 kinduff haha i agree, i'm still trying to figure out stuff in go, like packages, how the funcs are written, modularization, etc
2021-05-15 11:47:59 kinduff i just did a refactor on this repo https://github.com/kinduff/csgo_exporter, its the first project ive written in go
2021-05-15 11:48:07 kinduff and a prometheus exporter is always fun to do :P
2021-05-15 11:49:37 betawaffle I’m really looking forward to generics
2021-05-15 11:49:56 betawaffle Also pretty exited about what’s coming in 1.17
2021-05-15 11:51:37 jemaclus Generics aren't that compelling to me. I mean, I welcome them, but I haven't run into the head-banging frustrations that everyone else seems to run into without generics. It'll be interesting to see how it changes things for me.
2021-05-15 11:53:08 betawaffle I’d like a better heap. container/heap is so awkward.
2021-05-15 11:53:19 jemaclus kinduff: what do you use that for?
2021-05-15 11:53:25 jemaclus oops, didn't mean to tag you kinduff
2021-05-15 11:53:31 jemaclus betawaffle: what do you use container/heap for?
2021-05-15 11:53:58 betawaffle Merging sorted iterators, mainly.
2021-05-15 11:54:31 jemaclus interesting.
2021-05-15 11:54:33 betawaffle But I usually end up copying the code and doing it all fresh.
2021-05-15 11:55:10 betawaffle (Because it’s such an awkward interface)
2021-05-15 11:56:13 betawaffle With generics, it could be implemented in a more sensible way.
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2021-05-15 19:51:39 ahmedm5083 this isn't necessarily a go-specific question but I want to make something that can find the shortest path back to a word in a dictionary using its definition. e.g. trouble: "difficulty or problems", "public unrest or disorder", "cause distress or anxiety to" -> problems: "...something characterized by trouble" -> trouble if that makes sense
2021-05-15 19:51:47 ahmedm5083 I'm wondering what the best way to implement something like this is
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2021-05-15 19:57:44 bookworm use an NLP toolkit
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2021-05-15 19:58:21 bookworm the AI people have several of those tools for machine reading of text sources, sentiment analysis and stuff
2021-05-15 19:58:34 b0nn ahmedm5083: You're going to need to index the definitions
2021-05-15 19:58:45 b0nn Instead of the words being the index
2021-05-15 19:58:54 ahmedm5083 bookworm: that's a bit overkill for what im trying to do I feel
2021-05-15 19:59:16 b0nn And you're going to need to be able to handle the fact that the definitions you have will not be worded in the same order as the ones provided
2021-05-15 19:59:56 b0nn eg. trouble: "difficulty or problems" OR "problems or difficulty"
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2021-05-15 20:00:53 b0nn I mean, you could word soup the definitions and check the search terms match a % of the word soup definition for a word
2021-05-15 20:01:27 ahmedm5083 b0nn: as in which definitions point to which words?
2021-05-15 20:02:03 b0nn eg tokenise "problems or difficulty" to "problems" and "difficulty" and then when you search the defintions you note that the supplied terms match 100% of the deifnition for "trouble" (sans stop words)
2021-05-15 20:02:08 b0nn yes
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2021-05-15 20:04:08 ahmedm5083 hm I was thinking of doing that initially. my plan was to have something like trouble: "problems", "difficulty" then look at both "problems" and "difficulty" and see what they point to, etc. until I get back to "trouble", but that could be very inefficient
2021-05-15 20:04:27 b0nn You have to index the definitions because otherwise your search ould be "Is the search term equal to the def for 'a', no, then does it match 'aardvark', wtc
2021-05-15 20:05:07 ahmedm5083 I see
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2021-05-15 20:05:17 b0nn It will be iniefficient, because the next problem is that we're only talking about exact word matching
2021-05-15 20:05:57 ahmedm5083 but I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by index the definitions
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2021-05-15 20:06:18 b0nn When you search for something, what are you searching?
2021-05-15 20:07:09 ahmedm5083 for the initial word
2021-05-15 20:07:15 b0nn You store all of your data in a massive - I dunno, database, or tree, or map, whatever flkoats your boat
2021-05-15 20:07:23 ahmedm5083 right
2021-05-15 20:07:39 b0nn But you don't search that big blob of data, you search the index
2021-05-15 20:07:44 ahmedm5083 right
2021-05-15 20:07:57 b0nn and you create indexes from the definitions
2021-05-15 20:08:55 b0nn The definitions being (for trouble) "Problem or difficulty"
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2021-05-15 20:09:11 b0nn You can omit the 'or' from your search, that will be a stop word
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2021-05-15 20:09:36 b0nn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_word
2021-05-15 20:09:56 jemaclus yeah, by "indexing" you're basically saying something like "trouble" => ["problem difficulty", "public unrest disorder", "cause distress anxiety"]
2021-05-15 20:10:15 jemaclus eliminating stop words (words that are so common as to not mean anything)
2021-05-15 20:10:29 jemaclus so then when someone types in "trouble" you already have a list of results
2021-05-15 20:10:49 ahmedm5083 okay I see yes I thought you meant the opposite
2021-05-15 20:10:51 ahmedm5083 something like
2021-05-15 20:10:57 b0nn he wants to go the other way, someone provides the definition and he retrieves the word that matches that def
2021-05-15 20:11:02 ahmedm5083 "problem, difficulty" => "trouble"
2021-05-15 20:11:03 jemaclus Typically, the index matches documents rather than strings, so you'd say: document 1 is "problem difficulty" and document 2 is "public unrest disorder" and doc 3 is "cause distress anxiety", and then your index is "trouble" => [1,2,3]
2021-05-15 20:11:13 jemaclus yeah, same principle, just the other way around
2021-05-15 20:11:42 jemaclus so you tokenize whatever it is you want to search, drop the stop words, and create the index (in the search world they're called "postings")
2021-05-15 20:11:44 ahmedm5083 b0nn: i misunderstood you :P i thought you meant do it the other way around
2021-05-15 20:12:11 b0nn FWIW you're going down a very deep rabbit hole
2021-05-15 20:12:17 jemaclus yup.
2021-05-15 20:12:19 jemaclus this is not trivial.
2021-05-15 20:12:39 jemaclus (my day job is as a search engineer, though I'm a manager these days.)
2021-05-15 20:12:53 ahmedm5083 hm
2021-05-15 20:13:05 b0nn And (AIUI) nobody has yet found the bottom (the problem being synonyms and meaning of words are not understood by computers at all at the moment)
2021-05-15 20:13:36 jemaclus yup ^
2021-05-15 20:13:42 b0nn Start with word soup (that's how sapm is detected
2021-05-15 20:13:47 b0nn spam
2021-05-15 20:14:07 ahmedm5083 ah I'm not trying to get the computer to understand anything
2021-05-15 20:14:10 jemaclus like, there's a big difference between "red wine" and "red wine vinegar", for example... but computers aren't very good at figuring that out.
2021-05-15 20:14:39 ahmedm5083 https://www.sixdegreesofwikipedia.com just implement something like this but with dictionary words
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2021-05-15 20:15:33 ahmedm5083 though i dont have much experience with searching tbf
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2021-05-15 20:17:08 b0nn Ack, I meant "Bag of words" when I said "Word soup"
2021-05-15 20:17:20 b0nn https://medium.com/swlh/spam-filtering-using-bag-of-words-aac778e1ee0b
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2021-05-15 20:18:46 b0nn I think I hate the internet - the javascript on that page is actively preventing me from copying a paragraph and pasting it here
2021-05-15 20:19:21 b0nn (I'm having similar problems with reddit's javascript, and facebook's - neither are letting me do simple things)
2021-05-15 20:19:48 chilversc that's strange, I don't have issues with those sites, maybe you have a browser plugin that's mis-behaving?
2021-05-15 20:20:10 chilversc or just a browser that's misbehaving
2021-05-15 20:20:25 b0nn It's the javascript and the devs that wrote it
2021-05-15 20:20:47 b0nn Or, more correctly, the product managers that told the devs what to create
2021-05-15 20:21:17 chilversc I can highlight and copy text from medium and reddit
2021-05-15 20:21:26 b0nn eg. Facebook alerts me to the fact that I have been mentioned in a thread, and links me to - some random unconnected point in a 10k comment thread
2021-05-15 20:22:07 b0nn That page I just linked to, can you highlight and copy a paragraph? Medium will only let me tweet or highlight, and demands I create an account to do either
2021-05-15 20:22:29 b0nn ahmedm5083: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bag-of-words_model
2021-05-15 20:24:20 chilversc I can highlight fine and copy paragraphs
2021-05-15 20:27:45 b0nn https://imgur.com/a/PkGOn8H
2021-05-15 20:27:57 b0nn That's what I get
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2021-05-15 20:33:24 ahmedm5083 b0nn: yes I can
2021-05-15 20:35:17 ahmedm5083 though the medium page is using *150* mb of ram
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2021-05-16 00:31:52 b0nn Is there a dynamic way to discover (the names of) the three types that this struct uses - or do I need to explicitly add them (perhaps to another field)
2021-05-16 00:35:11 bpalmer reflect.TypeOf(s).Field(0).Type.Name()
2021-05-16 00:35:31 b0nn for each?
2021-05-16 00:36:01 bpalmer Sure. Instead of Field(0), change the number, or loop through NumFields
2021-05-16 00:36:15 b0nn I mean, how do I ensure that the Idx field types are ignored, but the three first ones are checked (and when I add/subtract, how do I make sure that's handled properly)
2021-05-16 00:36:50 b0nn Do I have to make sure that a naming convention is adhered to?
2021-05-16 00:37:01 bpalmer Maybe a struct tag. Not entirely sure what you're doing.
2021-05-16 00:37:40 bpalmer Many of the go reflection-based APIs rely on naming conventions + struct tags to override the defaults.
2021-05-16 00:37:51 b0nn I want to know the names of - Organisations, Users, and Tickets, and any other type like those when they're added (or removed) from that struct
2021-05-16 00:38:08 b0nn ok, tags might be the go
2021-05-16 00:38:44 bpalmer I don't know what struct you're talking about. Perhaps it's lost in the backscroll.
2021-05-16 00:39:25 b0nn oh, didn't I paste it https://play.golang.org/p/HHYTpAaWhZA
2021-05-16 00:41:16 bpalmer OK. In that case, a struct tag establishin the binding, and a default convention so you don't have to go wild with struct tags, is the way I would go.
2021-05-16 00:41:39 b0nn Got an example of what you mean?
2021-05-16 00:42:01 bpalmer although since youy'd be wantin gto keep them in sync, you'd be going through getters and setters, so you could just validate it by hand
2021-05-16 00:42:20 bpalmer unless you're writing an arbitrary validation library.
2021-05-16 00:44:31 bpalmer So you're doing something like func (d Data) SellTicket(t Ticket) { d.Organizations[t.Organization.Name] = t.Organization ; d.OrgIdx[t.User][t.Ticket] = t.Organization; ... } , right?
2021-05-16 00:44:47 b0nn I am thinking that I have a loader function where data is loaded into the struct, so I will add a "adds its name to the pot or it gets the slam" function
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2021-05-16 01:45:56 jemaclus Honestly, this just seems like you're trying to smush dynamic language features into a static typed language. One of my general rules of thumb is that if I have to break out the reflect package, i've probably made a big mistake somewhere.
2021-05-16 01:46:54 jemaclus Another general rule of thumb is that if I have nested slices or maps 2+ levels deep, i've also probably made a huge mistake somewhere :)
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2021-05-16 02:37:24 b0nn jemaclus: so, those complex map[string]map[string]object types are - as hopefully implied by the naming - indexes
2021-05-16 02:38:18 b0nn The problem being 'solved' is three (or more) sets of data, held in json, are to be searchable on each field
2021-05-16 02:39:28 b0nn that is, Organisations is a struct of n fields, Tickets, m fields, and Users l fields, and I am supposed to be able to search for the struct that has a field with a value of x
2021-05-16 02:40:02 b0nn and, on top of that, I will need to search for 'related' objects (I *think* that there's a field that denotes relations)
2021-05-16 02:40:33 b0nn This was homework for a job that I was given (the hw, not the job) in January, and I blew it with linear search
2021-05-16 02:41:11 b0nn So, in my own time, I am trying to find a better way to do it, and indexes is what I currently think is the optimal way
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2021-05-16 02:48:26 explodes WEBSOCKETS aka how to fill your normal with more stuff and make it less good.
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2021-05-16 03:05:50 rairden Should I be using ioutil.ReadDir or os.ReadDir to sort files by modification time? Pprof is telling me the newer DirEntry is 10x slower, but my code probably sucks.
2021-05-16 03:08:12 b0nn That's curious - show code on play.golang.org? (Also, I'd look at Benchmark testing over pproff)
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2021-05-16 03:11:37 rairden yeah, here is what I was using. https://play.golang.org/p/JBVdG1mFdId
2021-05-16 03:15:23 rairden You cant edit the the playground and keep the same URL, can you? Was just going to show running cmd "go test playground -bench=. -benchtime=1x" on 1000 files was 24 ms vs 376 ms.
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2021-05-16 07:18:18 hoodedfigure Hey, I'm new to go. I pulled an example using `go get`. Where is it usually stored?
2021-05-16 07:21:32 bookworm depends on your go version, ~/go/pkg/mod in recent versions (if you use modules)
2021-05-16 07:22:10 bookworm generally if you just want to get the code, use git, not go get
2021-05-16 07:22:25 hoodedfigure bookworm: haha, ok thanks. I was looking for a hidden directory like ~/.go and couldn't find one...
2021-05-16 07:22:56 betawaffle also, the code in there is read-only, so you'll want to use git if you want to make changes
2021-05-16 07:23:10 bookworm or overwrite the restriction :P
2021-05-16 07:23:20 bookworm doesn't make sense though, I agree
2021-05-16 07:23:25 betawaffle i wouldn't recommend that
2021-05-16 07:23:49 hoodedfigure Thank you, I will keep that in mind :)
2021-05-16 07:24:02 betawaffle hoodedfigure: it's stored in $GOPATH, which defaults to ~/go
2021-05-16 07:24:25 betawaffle for modules mode, it would be under $GOPATH/pkg/mod
2021-05-16 07:24:40 bookworm in other words what I just said...
2021-05-16 07:24:44 betawaffle yep
2021-05-16 07:25:09 hoodedfigure it is actually the $GOPATH/bin dir I am looking for xD
2021-05-16 07:26:37 bookworm that's populated with go install generally, not go get. At least on recent go versions... there's some confusion which subcommand does what exactly that they're cleaning up
2021-05-16 07:26:55 bookworm >go get to build and install packages is deprecated
2021-05-16 07:27:05 hoodedfigure The README said "just go like `go get $this` and then execute `this`" but that only works if you have it in yourt $PATH :D
2021-05-16 07:27:06 bookworm release notes of go 1.16
2021-05-16 07:27:22 bookworm yes, generally readmes get outdated quickly ;)
2021-05-16 07:28:48 hoodedfigure Actually I pulled the fyne demo. is that in your oppinion the current way-to-go gui toolkit?
2021-05-16 07:29:03 bookworm one of them
2021-05-16 07:29:19 bookworm there's no such thing as *the* toolkit
2021-05-16 07:29:26 hoodedfigure ofc not :D
2021-05-16 07:29:27 bookworm go isn't really good at UI stuff to be fair
2021-05-16 07:29:44 bookworm but it has like many other things bindings to the usual qt / gtk stuff
2021-05-16 07:30:07 bookworm then there's fyne (opinonated) and goiui or whatever the name is (more low level)
2021-05-16 07:30:36 hoodedfigure I am looking for a x-plattform toolkit for an optional GUI to a cmd app
2021-05-16 07:30:40 bookworm gio*
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2021-05-16 07:31:25 bookworm if all else fails, just shove it in a webapp instead ;)
2021-05-16 07:31:38 hoodedfigure I don't want to depend on GTK or even Qt
2021-05-16 07:31:45 bookworm fair
2021-05-16 07:31:51 hoodedfigure AND it should not be yet nother Electron app
2021-05-16 07:32:05 bookworm who said electron?
2021-05-16 07:32:19 bookworm web app can work with the already installed browser just fine... pwa
2021-05-16 07:32:35 hoodedfigure Yeah, but it should work as a standalone app
2021-05-16 07:32:44 bookworm yes, pwa
2021-05-16 07:32:56 bookworm but I know what you mean
2021-05-16 07:33:05 bookworm without first going through the normal browser to install I guess
2021-05-16 07:33:08 hoodedfigure PWA is not that widely adopted (yet)
2021-05-16 07:33:40 bookworm in which world do you life? iOS? because on all other non apple platforms it works just fine, typing this from a pwa actually
2021-05-16 07:33:44 hoodedfigure Firefox (desktop) discontinued the development if I remember correctly
2021-05-16 07:33:49 bookworm live*
2021-05-16 07:34:21 bookworm 🤷‍♂️ bug in FF
2021-05-16 07:34:44 bookworm btw, gio is https://gioui.org/
2021-05-16 07:35:06 hoodedfigure thanks ^
2021-05-16 07:35:08 hoodedfigure ^ ^
2021-05-16 07:35:10 bookworm the problem I have with fyne is t hat the UI looks non native on all platforms
2021-05-16 07:35:22 bookworm for them it's a feature, for me a bug
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2021-05-16 07:35:27 hoodedfigure Quassel does not seem to be good with emojies btw
2021-05-16 07:36:00 hoodedfigure it looks like a "ghost male" what you sent
2021-05-16 07:36:28 hoodedfigure ah, it was a shrug ^^
2021-05-16 07:36:51 albertito hoodedfigure: depending on what your ui needs to do, running "mytool web" and have that open an http server on localhost to offer a light ui might be a good tradeoff
2021-05-16 07:37:20 bookworm I mean if you want to go for a proper application go for it
2021-05-16 07:37:42 bookworm there are some nifty features such as you don't need to write effing javascript if you go that route ;)
2021-05-16 07:38:09 hoodedfigure I think I'm going with fyne for a prototype
2021-05-16 07:38:57 hoodedfigure You have to start somewhere
2021-05-16 07:39:07 bookworm indeed
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2021-05-16 07:40:25 hoodedfigure on the other hand, how would you start with a web app? are there different go-wise frameworks of do you start the same way and then choose angular, vue, etc?
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2021-05-16 07:42:03 bookworm depends on whether you want to do static pages (server rendered) or dynamic fancy things, the latter needs js and probably something like vue if you don't want to reinvent the wheel yes
2021-05-16 07:42:19 bookworm if you are fine with static pages, html/templates is neat
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2021-05-16 07:42:46 bookworm you can naturally provide some interactivity by embedding js into the templates
2021-05-16 07:44:32 bookworm the difference is that with server side rendering you do the logic on the server, then serve the pages (which leads to page refresh events, which may be jarring) and on client side rendering you basically write a json api in go for the backend and then the UI stuff in js, which means you can update the DOM more seamlessly without refreshing the
2021-05-16 07:44:32 bookworm page
2021-05-16 07:45:04 hoodedfigure I think I would go with a classic RESTful api
2021-05-16 07:45:49 hoodedfigure Pushing some JSON objects to the browser and doing calculations there
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2021-05-16 07:47:39 hoodedfigure Do you think this is still an up-to-date starting point?
2021-05-16 07:47:40 hoodedfigure https://golangdocs.com/golang-web-application
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2021-05-16 07:53:29 hoodedfigure I see, it's time to nibble some go-nuts. You all went to lunch? xD
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2021-05-16 07:55:16 a2800276 github.com/gotk3/gotk3 worked well for me in the past for gtk bindings. Takes some getting used to though. Don't expect any gui lib to be particularly stable :)
2021-05-16 07:55:44 kinduff what do you think about passing a config struct as a param for all subsequent functions in a CLI app?
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2021-05-16 07:56:14 kinduff the alternative being, on every call, passing only the params the func really needs
2021-05-16 07:56:22 kinduff which is more verbose but is more clear
2021-05-16 07:56:31 j416 might as well put the config in a struct and have the functions be methods on that
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2021-05-16 07:58:44 kinduff hm, but that would make the config the one responsible for everything
2021-05-16 07:59:18 bookworm ^ the method part
2021-05-16 07:59:34 bookworm no, you'd have an app struct that contains the config
2021-05-16 07:59:42 bookworm you wouldn't attach the logic to the config itself
2021-05-16 08:00:04 kinduff struct driven development
2021-05-16 08:00:10 kinduff i kinda like that
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2021-05-16 08:00:20 bookworm where's that blog post...
2021-05-16 08:00:33 bookworm https://medium.com/@matryer/how-i-write-go-http-services-after-seven-years-37c208122831
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2021-05-16 08:00:48 bookworm ^ that, doesn't just apply to handlers but is a general pattern
2021-05-16 08:00:55 kinduff lets see, thanks!"
2021-05-16 08:01:55 bookworm hoodedfigure: not particularly fond of sites that try to look like "official" ones, but sure. Pick up any book / bloc on go web dev and follow that to some extend
2021-05-16 08:02:40 bookworm you can also have a look at cobra... iirc they do a similar thing with their commands, though I could be wrong as I don't use it myself
2021-05-16 08:03:04 crashoverride go is 7 years old?
2021-05-16 08:03:11 hoodedfigure bookworm: I thought there was something fishy about golangdocs...
2021-05-16 08:03:14 crashoverride ah no, was in 2018
2021-05-16 08:03:15 crashoverride ok.
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2021-05-16 08:09:54 hoodedfigure bookworm: I'm currently trying to figure out how to create a sensible module structure, defining and importing (sub)modules. Do you always need to install them or can you import them by relative path somehow?
2021-05-16 08:10:23 bookworm no to relative paths, but why do you want to do that?
2021-05-16 08:10:43 bookworm if you have submodules of the same package, just use them normally
2021-05-16 08:11:05 hoodedfigure bookworm: I want to e.g. separate business logic and frontend
2021-05-16 08:11:16 bookworm if you want to hack on multiple modules at the same time you need to use something like replace directives
2021-05-16 08:11:50 bookworm sure, but assuming that's the same language just make a package out of it
2021-05-16 08:13:26 hoodedfigure bookworm: thanks, I got confused with modules/packages
2021-05-16 08:13:42 bookworm well, I didn't express myself well either...
2021-05-16 08:14:20 bookworm >if you have submodules of the same package, just use them normally <-- should have said f you have sub packages of the same module, just use them normally
2021-05-16 08:15:21 bookworm hoodedfigure: https://github.com/miniflux/v2
2021-05-16 08:15:23 bookworm for example
2021-05-16 08:16:53 hoodedfigure bookworm: so if I have packages main and foo, how would I call function bar of package foo from main?
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2021-05-16 08:17:24 bookworm foo.$function, then let go imports (or well, gopls) do its job and add the import
2021-05-16 08:17:27 hoodedfigure do you import packages?
2021-05-16 08:17:30 bookworm https://github.com/miniflux/v2/blob/master/cli/cli.go
2021-05-16 08:17:35 bookworm look at that for example
2021-05-16 08:18:07 bookworm config / database / logger / storage et al are all sub packages of the same module
2021-05-16 08:18:21 hoodedfigure bookworm: I see, you you import "xy/foo"
2021-05-16 08:18:31 bookworm miniflux.app is just the fancy import name for vanity's sake
2021-05-16 08:18:51 bookworm yes, but normally you don't need to worry at all about imports, we have tooling for that
2021-05-16 08:19:15 bookworm there are cases when the tooling gets confused, generally though it works very well
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2021-05-16 08:22:16 hoodedfigure bookworm: so say I went `go mod init xy/foo` and created a package bar as file 'bar/bar.go'.
2021-05-16 08:22:16 hoodedfigure Then I would import "xy/bar" in 'foo.go',package main?
2021-05-16 08:22:52 hoodedfigure or do you need to put them all into the same directory (no sub-directories allowed)?
2021-05-16 08:22:56 bookworm xy/foo/bar
2021-05-16 08:24:02 hoodedfigure bookworm: thanks, wokrs now xD
2021-05-16 08:24:13 hoodedfigure *works
2021-05-16 08:24:56 hoodedfigure Sorry for the n00b questions
2021-05-16 08:25:10 bookworm no worries, no need to feel sorry for
2021-05-16 08:25:22 bookworm we all start somewhere
2021-05-16 08:25:32 hoodedfigure <3
2021-05-16 08:27:46 hoodedfigure bookworm: are you a developer of miniflux?
2021-05-16 08:27:59 bookworm no but I use it and it has a sane structure
2021-05-16 08:28:23 bookworm and it was the first web app that came to my mind that's written in go
2021-05-16 08:29:07 hoodedfigure bookworm: I would have went with Gitea :D
2021-05-16 08:29:07 hoodedfigure But I don't know about the code structure
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2021-05-16 08:34:59 hoodedfigure I wand to decode a huge JSON file – possibly infinitely long, so I don't want to read it all into memory.
2021-05-16 08:34:59 hoodedfigure Is there a way to process it on-the-go like a stream editor would?
2021-05-16 08:35:34 j416 hoodedfigure: https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/json/#example_Decoder
2021-05-16 08:35:56 j416 if that's what you mean
2021-05-16 08:36:12 bookworm that will read it all into memory
2021-05-16 08:36:19 j416 no?
2021-05-16 08:36:43 bookworm you decode into "m"
2021-05-16 08:36:53 bookworm > the json may be infinitly long
2021-05-16 08:37:07 bookworm (which is a design mistake, granted)
2021-05-16 08:37:22 j416 if it's a single json object that's infintely long, then yes of course
2021-05-16 08:37:32 hoodedfigure Not actually infinite ofc but severy hundred megs
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2021-05-16 08:37:38 hoodedfigure *several
2021-05-16 08:37:40 bookworm in one object?
2021-05-16 08:37:45 bookworm or in multiple objects?
2021-05-16 08:37:53 bookworm json needs to be parsed per object
2021-05-16 08:38:22 bookworm you don't know if the thing is valid until you close the object
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2021-05-16 08:38:58 j416 above json package also has a tokenizer, so could use that.
2021-05-16 08:39:08 hoodedfigure It is one big object with an enormous list of sub-objects
2021-05-16 08:39:31 j416 hoodedfigure: an object or array?
2021-05-16 08:39:50 hoodedfigure Object with a list as an attribute
2021-05-16 08:39:53 j416 an example would help
2021-05-16 08:40:28 j416 if it were ndjson it'd be a poc
2021-05-16 08:40:28 hoodedfigure I could probably parse the file and strip the root object
2021-05-16 08:41:03 bookworm can't you filter the json server side?
2021-05-16 08:41:42 hoodedfigure I pull a third-party object
2021-05-16 08:41:49 hoodedfigure from MediathekView project
2021-05-16 08:42:02 bookworm that doesn't answer the question ;)
2021-05-16 08:42:13 hoodedfigure I think you can find examples here: https://archiv.mediathekview.de/
2021-05-16 08:42:52 bookworm ehw, I see what you mean
2021-05-16 08:43:34 bookworm but to be honest, the file size is always approximately equal... you should be able to load this into memory
2021-05-16 08:43:54 hoodedfigure Files start with "{"Filmliste":[...]" and usually kill your text editor xD
2021-05-16 08:44:28 hoodedfigure bookworm: I want to be able to parse it e.g. on a Raspi
2021-05-16 08:44:52 hoodedfigure very limited memory environments
2021-05-16 08:44:55 bookworm even a rpi has a few gigs of ram
2021-05-16 08:45:10 hoodedfigure Well, mine has 512MB I think
2021-05-16 08:45:22 bookworm what do you want to do with the json in the end?
2021-05-16 08:45:38 bookworm you might get away with tokenizing and just extracting what you need on the fly
2021-05-16 08:45:40 hoodedfigure It should go e.g. into a SQLite db
2021-05-16 08:46:04 j416 jq ?
2021-05-16 08:46:14 j416 just an idea. not sure how it handles flattening.
2021-05-16 08:46:14 hoodedfigure I want to iterate over the "Filmliste" array and parse it into a database
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2021-05-16 08:48:08 bookworm WTF... who wrote that thing?
2021-05-16 08:48:24 bookworm they made an object that repeatedly overwrites the same map keys
2021-05-16 08:48:25 hoodedfigure gojq or MediathekView?
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2021-05-16 08:50:30 j416 lol
2021-05-16 08:51:03 bookworm that confuses jq, you only get the last iteration
2021-05-16 08:51:48 bookworm however programmed that should be fired immediately
2021-05-16 08:52:01 bookworm json has arrays for gods sake, use them
2021-05-16 08:52:19 j416 might want to hint to the author that this is a weird way to write json
2021-05-16 08:52:19 bookworm whoever*
2021-05-16 08:54:28 hoodedfigure bookworm: are you inspecting the filmliste thingy?
2021-05-16 08:54:44 bookworm yes
2021-05-16 08:55:12 bookworm that's a horrible way to expose things as json
2021-05-16 08:55:24 bookworm it's valid according to the spec, but horribly stupid
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2021-05-16 08:56:52 j416 well valid, with a grain of salt I'd argue
2021-05-16 08:57:13 bookworm that one should have simply been disallowed in the json spec
2021-05-16 08:57:19 bookworm not sure what they were thinking
2021-05-16 08:57:24 j416 one could have hoped
2021-05-16 08:57:41 bookworm "flexibility"
2021-05-16 08:57:42 bookworm or some such
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2021-05-16 08:58:08 j416 oh it does explicitly allow it; never thought of reading the actual spec
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2021-05-16 08:58:20 j416 just the simplified one at json.org
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2021-05-16 08:58:33 j416 > The JSON syntax does not impose any restrictions on the strings used as names, does not require that name strings be unique, and does not assign any significance to the ordering of name/value pairs.
2021-05-16 08:58:54 hoodedfigure bookworm: how did you go for inspecting the file?
2021-05-16 08:59:08 bookworm less
2021-05-16 08:59:17 hoodedfigure xD
2021-05-16 08:59:24 j416 vim worked with some effort
2021-05-16 08:59:35 bookworm took too long for me, tried to syntax highlight it
2021-05-16 08:59:37 bookworm gave up
2021-05-16 09:00:36 hoodedfigure bookworm: even `less` pushes it trhough thick syrup on my machine
2021-05-16 09:00:44 bookworm really?
2021-05-16 09:01:04 bookworm ah, yes. I see what you mean
2021-05-16 09:01:09 bookworm scrolling takes a while
2021-05-16 09:01:13 hoodedfigure yeah xD
2021-05-16 09:01:22 bookworm first screen was enough for me ;)
2021-05-16 09:02:40 hoodedfigure I first tried head but it's just one line of text xD
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2021-05-16 09:03:12 j416 use fold, makes it easier on the pagers/vim
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2021-05-16 09:03:33 j416 <2021-01-01-filme fold | less
2021-05-16 09:03:49 bookworm neat tip, thanks
2021-05-16 09:04:00 bookworm but the other way around ;)
2021-05-16 09:04:03 bookworm fold $file
2021-05-16 09:04:11 bookworm not $file fold
2021-05-16 09:04:22 j416 that's not what I wrote, but whichever you preer.
2021-05-16 09:04:24 j416 prefer*
2021-05-16 09:04:44 bookworm oh, I see, shell redirection, not irc quoting ;)
2021-05-16 09:05:04 j416 :)
2021-05-16 09:05:04 bookworm funny placement though, most people I've seen put the cmd first
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2021-05-16 09:05:52 j416 I just write it in whichever order seems easier (things I may want to change I try to keep near the end of the line)
2021-05-16 09:06:09 j416 also I've a habit of cat'ing everything; < is a bit closer to that
2021-05-16 09:06:20 j416 I mean, the order
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2021-05-16 09:06:40 j416 I still end up doing <foo | less
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2021-05-16 09:07:12 hoodedfigure bookworm: so can you tell me again what is wrong with the JSON structure?
2021-05-16 09:07:48 j416 for one, it has duplicate keys in the object, which, while allowed by the JSON spec, isn't very easy to handle
2021-05-16 09:08:48 bookworm normally you'd have it this way: `{ "Films": [{"Title": "whatever", "year": 2021}, {"Title": "other", "year": 1800} ] }`
2021-05-16 09:09:05 bookworm meaning you simply have an array of objects that all look the same
2021-05-16 09:09:08 j416 or even just without the wrapping object, for this size
2021-05-16 09:09:14 bookworm Or that
2021-05-16 09:09:40 bookworm which would actually be the better approach
2021-05-16 09:09:42 j416 (like in the example from the json package docs linked above)
2021-05-16 09:09:46 bookworm then you could actually stream the thing
2021-05-16 09:09:47 avoozl to just fix things on the cli, jq in --stream mode can actually get the values for the duplicate key names, but it is a bit cumbersome
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2021-05-16 09:10:15 j416 avoozl: heh, was playing with that. did you figure out a nice way to get it into a useful format from that?
2021-05-16 09:10:49 bookworm hoodedfigure: meaning it would look like `{"Title": "whatever", "year": 2021} {"Title": "other", "year": 1800}` usually with a newline between the objects
2021-05-16 09:10:59 avoozl j416: you have to split the array and then use from_entries to recombine it back into dicts I think
2021-05-16 09:11:14 avoozl j416: didn't dive in too deeply, but know I spent a good few hours a while ago doing something similar
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2021-05-16 09:13:26 j416 it kind of looks like this is a CSV or such, shoehorned into ad-hoc JSON
2021-05-16 09:13:34 bookworm yep
2021-05-16 09:13:37 bookworm in a bad way too
2021-05-16 09:13:48 bookworm they could've just provided the csv
2021-05-16 09:13:55 bookworm would be much easier to parse
2021-05-16 09:13:59 j416 indeed
2021-05-16 09:14:15 fizzie Re why it looks like that, I would imagine it's to save the space that would be lost for repeating the field titles a billion times.
2021-05-16 09:14:20 bookworm but that tells you that this is basically just dump and throw it over the fence
2021-05-16 09:14:21 avoozl j416: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36956590/json-fields-have-the-same-name gives some thoughts on how to proceed on the jq way, but it isn't pretty
2021-05-16 09:14:22 fizzie There's even a word for that, which escapes me right now.
2021-05-16 09:14:28 bookworm they don't use the file themselves
2021-05-16 09:14:37 j416 avoozl: ye, saw that one
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2021-05-16 09:15:07 j416 giving up on this; not worth the effort
2021-05-16 09:15:27 bookworm fizzie: and that would have been fine, just put some meta information somewhere how to parse the structs, then use arrays
2021-05-16 09:15:30 avoozl agree. we always say.. fix DQ issues as close to the source as possible
2021-05-16 09:17:29 fizzie bookworm: I mean, that's kind of what it looks like to me, except the metadata is those two fixed "Filmliste" entries, and the data arrays are those labeled with "X". But yeah, I don't think it's helping anyone's life to wrap that whole thing in a JSON-like structure.
2021-05-16 09:18:11 bookworm yes, no parse that with any default json decoder... most of them won't be happy with the duplicated keys
2021-05-16 09:18:15 bookworm now*
2021-05-16 09:18:33 fizzie (Earlier files had newlines, by the way. Or at least the 2015 one I looked at first.)
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2021-05-16 09:20:37 hoodedfigure Damn, I wanted to start hacking on my prototype and fell into the rabbit hole
2021-05-16 09:21:25 j416 :D
2021-05-16 09:26:40 fizzie I imagine you could make it work if you have a stream-oriented and/or a pull parser instead of the usual kind.
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2021-05-16 09:29:02 hoodedfigure Experimenting with some sed-magic
2021-05-16 09:29:31 j416 not sure which document is to be seen as the truth
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2021-05-16 09:29:54 j416 but at least RFC 8259 recommends that keys be unique -> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8259#section-4
2021-05-16 09:29:58 j416 fwiw
2021-05-16 09:30:41 hoodedfigure There are indeed serious security flaws related to duplicate JSON keys
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2021-05-16 09:32:55 hoodedfigure Imagine one using different parsers and interpret {username: "foo", username: "root"} or something
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2021-05-16 09:49:18 bookworm j416: the magic SHOULD
2021-05-16 09:49:18 bookworm meaning, feel free to ignore it but at your peril
2021-05-16 09:49:27 j416 indeed :/
2021-05-16 09:50:33 bookworm hoodedfigure: you can do it in pure go too, but you need to drop down to the token level
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2021-05-16 09:51:24 bookworm and then hope that the file is valid, because presumably you don't want to try to check if the json is actually valid and just extract the data as you go
2021-05-16 09:52:04 hoodedfigure bookworm: This turns it into CSV:
2021-05-16 09:52:04 hoodedfigure sed 's|\(\],\"X\":\[\)|\n|g; s|.*Filmliste\":\[||; s|\]\}||;'
2021-05-16 09:53:12 bookworm :D
2021-05-16 09:53:16 bookworm give up, use fork
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2021-05-16 09:54:04 bookworm https://i.redd.it/ijjaj2wl37241.jpg
2021-05-16 09:55:00 hoodedfigure I like chopsticks :(
2021-05-16 09:56:38 hoodedfigure Now I need to find out how to use sed in pure go, right? xD
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2021-05-16 09:57:19 bookworm the easy way? os.Exec
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2021-05-16 09:57:59 bookworm shove the network request into a decompress reader and give that reader to the stdin of the os.Command
2021-05-16 09:58:53 hoodedfigure I think that will do xD
2021-05-16 09:58:53 hoodedfigure Wound not run on any non *nix system though
2021-05-16 09:59:03 bookworm true
2021-05-16 09:59:06 bookworm but you said pi
2021-05-16 09:59:20 bookworm and if you run windows on that thing you are doing it wrong
2021-05-16 10:00:19 hoodedfigure I would like to make it available for other people as well if it works to my satisfaction
2021-05-16 10:00:40 bookworm ah
2021-05-16 10:02:02 hoodedfigure *when, hopefully
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2021-05-16 10:26:58 j416 lol chopsticks
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2021-05-16 10:33:09 hoodedfigure I feel painfully slow. Could you sketch how to read from URL directly into compress/gzip:Reader and output into stdin for os/exec ? :D
2021-05-16 10:33:32 bookworm it's not gzip, it's xz
2021-05-16 10:33:52 hoodedfigure oh, right
2021-05-16 10:33:53 bookworm least on the link you posted
2021-05-16 10:34:40 hoodedfigure is there native xzip support, too?
2021-05-16 10:34:48 bookworm not in the stdlib
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2021-05-16 10:37:51 hoodedfigure OK, nvm XZ now. I just pipe it into shell xzcat then
2021-05-16 10:38:02 bookworm https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/ulikunitz/xz for instance
2021-05-16 10:38:28 bookworm https://pkg.go.dev/search?q=xz has a bunch of them
2021-05-16 10:40:47 hoodedfigure Could you draft these steps: Download URL into stdin of os/exec and iterate throu stdout line-by-line?
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2021-05-16 10:43:25 fizzie hoodedfigure: Something along these lines: resp, err := http.Get(...); decompressed, err := xz.NewReader(resp.Body); cmd := exec.Command(...); cmd.Stdin = decompressed; stdout, err := cmd.StdoutPipe(); err := cmd.Start(); /* read lines from stdout */
2021-05-16 10:43:40 fizzie Preferrably with a little more error handling.
2021-05-16 10:43:45 bookworm ^ htat
2021-05-16 10:44:29 bookworm right, not os, exec.Command
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2021-05-16 10:45:50 since_ + (defer) reader.Close()
2021-05-16 10:46:31 bookworm resp.Body.Close too
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2021-05-16 10:48:11 hoodedfigure can you defer two calls?
2021-05-16 10:48:25 fizzie You'll probably want a cmd.Wait() in there somewhere as well, to check whether the command errored out. And for reading lines from the stdout, there's bufio.NewScanner, which will split by line by default, so a `for scanner.Scan() { line := scanner.Text(); ... }` makes a nice read-by-line loop.
2021-05-16 10:48:27 bookworm you can defer a lot of calls, not sure there's a hard limit
2021-05-16 10:48:32 bookworm it's a stack of functions
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2021-05-16 10:50:01 hoodedfigure pretty neat
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2021-05-16 10:53:38 hoodedfigure do you usually call `defer reader.Close()` directly after creating the reader?
2021-05-16 10:53:53 bookworm after checking the error
2021-05-16 10:54:10 bookworm because if you have an error, reader is probably nil and then the defer would panic
2021-05-16 10:54:15 bookworm well, might
2021-05-16 10:54:16 bookworm depends
2021-05-16 10:54:45 hoodedfigure aight, thanks
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2021-05-16 10:56:10 hoodedfigure should I introduce a bytes.Buffer somewhere?
2021-05-16 10:58:58 bookworm \
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2021-05-16 10:59:28 bookworm you can do it once, although some packages might add their own
2021-05-16 10:59:33 bookworm and you don't want to double buffer
2021-05-16 11:00:47 bookworm and I guess you mean bufio instead?
2021-05-16 11:01:21 bookworm bytes.Buffer is a thing that let's you read stuff into memory
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2021-05-16 11:01:26 bookworm lets*
2021-05-16 11:01:50 bookworm bufio buffers a read or write and can enhance performance, depending
2021-05-16 11:04:34 bookworm and net/http already buffers the network request for you
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2021-05-16 11:06:28 fizzie os/exec, when reading from a non-file Stdin, will use io.Copy, which will already use an internal reasonably-sized buffer, so you don't need to explicitly add buffers between the decompressor and the external command either.
2021-05-16 11:06:52 fizzie (Likewise on the other side if you're using a bufio.Scanner to read the lines.)
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2021-05-16 11:09:57 bookworm well, in this case the line count is 1
2021-05-16 11:10:18 bookworm ah, nevermind it's after the sed
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2021-05-16 11:16:24 fizzie By the way, some of the earlier files did have newlines between each "row", you might want to test-drive your sed expression on those too.
2021-05-16 11:16:28 hoodedfigure is this necessary?
2021-05-16 11:16:28 hoodedfigure defer stdout.close()
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2021-05-16 11:18:47 hoodedfigure How does this look for you?
2021-05-16 11:18:47 hoodedfigure https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3b41ec44/
2021-05-16 11:19:54 hoodedfigure there is something amiss about the errch
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2021-05-16 11:20:50 bookworm http.Get takes a string, not a url.URL
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2021-05-16 11:21:18 bookworm the compiler should have yelled at you
2021-05-16 11:21:52 hoodedfigure I'm sure it will
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2021-05-16 11:22:53 bookworm stdin := resp.Body is wrong too
2021-05-16 11:22:59 bookworm you want cmd.Stdin
2021-05-16 11:24:23 hoodedfigure resp.close and resp.Body.close areundefined
2021-05-16 11:24:28 bookworm also, you don't need to do everything in the background ;) one op can be done in main
2021-05-16 11:24:41 bookworm sure, because it's Close()
2021-05-16 11:24:44 bookworm not close()
2021-05-16 11:25:16 hoodedfigure do you get verbatim strings somehow to avoid \\\\\?
2021-05-16 11:25:16 bookworm in go all methods you can call from external packages are capitalized, as they need to be exported for you to use them outside of the package their declared in
2021-05-16 11:26:22 hoodedfigure so capital functions are public and lower-case is private?
2021-05-16 11:26:28 bookworm yes
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2021-05-16 11:26:48 bookworm and you could use `` instead of the "" to get what you want I think
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2021-05-16 11:30:03 hoodedfigure Like this?
2021-05-16 11:30:04 hoodedfigure cmd.Stdin := resp.Body
2021-05-16 11:32:04 hoodedfigure I don't know how to connect resp.Body and cmd.StdinPipe()
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2021-05-16 11:32:49 bookworm no, not :=, =
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2021-05-16 11:34:18 hoodedfigure OK, how does this look now?
2021-05-16 11:34:18 hoodedfigure https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e6f08b71/
2021-05-16 11:34:41 bookworm well, does it compile? Does it work?
2021-05-16 11:34:53 hoodedfigure 1. yes, 2. on it
2021-05-16 11:36:52 hoodedfigure it executes but does nothing
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2021-05-16 11:37:16 bookworm you don't need to close stdout
2021-05-16 11:37:25 bookworm that's handled for you when the command exits
2021-05-16 11:38:07 bookworm and you didn't show the full program did you? you are missing main and the package declaration
2021-05-16 11:38:11 shtr0m Anyone know if there is a go test vim compiler out there? Coming up with a proper errorformat is harder than I thought.
2021-05-16 11:38:27 bookworm shtr0m: vim-go
2021-05-16 11:38:36 bookworm you can grab the stuff you need from there
2021-05-16 11:39:13 hoodedfigure bookworm: I omitted `package mtlib`
2021-05-16 11:39:18 bookworm hoodedfigure: show the full program
2021-05-16 11:39:32 shtr0m bookworm: Thanks!
2021-05-16 11:39:35 bookworm as is you aren't waiting for anything to complete, the function just returns and that's it
2021-05-16 11:40:27 bookworm and any program that is actually generating an executable is in package main
2021-05-16 11:40:56 bookworm everything else is a library as far as go is concerned
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2021-05-16 11:41:22 hoodedfigure bookworm: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0346de25/
2021-05-16 11:41:39 bookworm pro tip: use the playground :)
2021-05-16 11:41:52 bookworm yeah that can't work
2021-05-16 11:42:05 bookworm that's the usual rookie mistake we all make at one point in our go career
2021-05-16 11:42:15 hoodedfigure :D
2021-05-16 11:42:28 hoodedfigure Hey, it's my first day!
2021-05-16 11:42:59 bookworm you do everything in a goroutine, yet nothing waits for those go routines to complete.... meaning main() starts the work in Download(), that returns, main has nothing to do and returns (aka program exit)
2021-05-16 11:43:18 bookworm so the goroutines that would like to do the work get killed
2021-05-16 11:43:56 bookworm for now, just put everything in main() then do the bufio.Scanner loop directly in main
2021-05-16 11:44:06 bookworm you can restructure later
2021-05-16 11:44:52 hoodedfigure `go func() {` calls a separate thread a.k.a. goroutine?
2021-05-16 11:45:02 bookworm not a thread no, but a go routine yes
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2021-05-16 11:45:38 bookworm it's not quite the same, although for your purposes think of it as "run in the background", whatever that means in time
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2021-05-16 11:46:01 bookworm all of them may run on a single os thread if that's all you have
2021-05-16 11:46:47 bookworm go will spawn threads whenever it needs to (blocking syscalls or some other io)
2021-05-16 11:47:00 hoodedfigure hooray, it spouts ascii now \o/
2021-05-16 11:47:25 bookworm if you are interested in the scheduler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRO5WQGh0k
2021-05-16 11:47:43 bookworm there are multiple gophercon talks about how goroutines work under the hood
2021-05-16 11:49:37 SoF where do I put integration tests of my whole library, a subpackage specifically for testing, or in the root next to mylib.go as mylib_test.go?
2021-05-16 11:50:04 bookworm up to you, go doesn't care
2021-05-16 11:50:13 SoF where should I*
2021-05-16 11:50:19 SoF but I take it there's no convention, thanks
2021-05-16 11:50:20 bookworm you should probably guard them with a build tag though
2021-05-16 11:50:30 bookworm you don't want to run them whenever you call go test
2021-05-16 11:51:34 bookworm it depends on who you ask, do you prefer your shed red or blue?
2021-05-16 11:51:48 bookworm in the end, does it really matter?
2021-05-16 11:53:12 bookworm go time (podcast) recently had a discussion about testing and one of the hosts preferred to make a completely separate application for the integration tests, not even putting it into the core repo
2021-05-16 11:53:25 bookworm so there are several opinions out there
2021-05-16 11:53:27 SoF interesting.
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2021-05-16 11:56:30 hoodedfigure bookworm: Now to put my code into a separate function/package. What do I have to heed when calling Download()?
2021-05-16 11:57:24 bookworm you need to be able to tell the caller when you are done... so either make it synchronous (if it returns it's done) or return a channel that gets closed when the work is done
2021-05-16 11:57:37 bookworm choice is up to you
2021-05-16 11:58:30 bookworm if you keep it synchronous it's easier, let main handle the background stuff
2021-05-16 11:58:45 bookworm generally, only spawn go routines if you have to
2021-05-16 12:00:08 bookworm in your case you that's just the command and that's done by the exec package
2021-05-16 12:00:33 hoodedfigure so if I don't spawn routines it is automatically synchroneous?
2021-05-16 12:00:42 bookworm yes
2021-05-16 12:01:26 hoodedfigure aren't there any keywords to mark a function async or so?
2021-05-16 12:01:40 hoodedfigure it might be easiert to read later
2021-05-16 12:01:46 bookworm every go routine that you spawn is async until you synchronize it somehow
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2021-05-16 12:03:20 bookworm some packages have both, sync and async versions. Look at your code: You have cmd.Start(), which is the async version. You then eventually need to call cmd.Wait() to wait for completion.
2021-05-16 12:03:38 bookworm then there's cmd.Run(), which does that for you, meaning it only returns once the cmd exited
2021-05-16 12:06:43 hoodedfigure when I put the working, synchronous code into a separate function and call that from main() it never terminates
2021-05-16 12:07:15 bookworm then you must be waiting for something to happen
2021-05-16 12:07:29 bookworm meaning there's a bug in your code
2021-05-16 12:07:37 bookworm not closing a reader or something like that
2021-05-16 12:10:05 hoodedfigure bookworm: should I not see some logs, anyhow?
2021-05-16 12:10:14 bookworm why?
2021-05-16 12:10:32 bookworm ah, you mean your calls to log
2021-05-16 12:10:35 bookworm where's your recent code?
2021-05-16 12:10:46 bookworm the one you are trying to run?
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2021-05-16 12:14:10 hoodedfigure I moved the code back into main package and now it works
2021-05-16 12:16:28 hoodedfigure But as soon as I put it into "package mtlib" and main calls "mtlib.Download()" instead of "Download()" it stops working
2021-05-16 12:16:54 bookworm show the non working code
2021-05-16 12:17:15 bookworm my crystal ball is broken and my binoculars not quite good enough to read your small font size
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2021-05-16 12:20:13 hoodedfigure bookworm: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/347c8425/ https://paste.debian.net/hidden/57fbd519/
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2021-05-16 12:24:46 hoodedfigure I killed booworm :(
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2021-05-16 12:25:23 hoodedfigure wb, bookworm
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2021-05-16 12:50:47 hoodedfigure bookworm: thank you for your help
2021-05-16 12:50:47 hoodedfigure all of you, this is a nice and friendly community. thank you!
2021-05-16 12:51:17 bookworm hoodedfigure: sorry, was busy with trying to figure out why the fuck my NAS stopped working
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2021-05-16 12:51:50 hoodedfigure bookworm: no worries, I will just put it all into a gig main.go xD
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2021-05-16 12:51:55 hoodedfigure *big
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2021-05-16 12:55:52 hoodedfigure I have learned some valuable go essentials today
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2021-05-16 12:56:38 hoodedfigure I will come back to hang around when I have some free time to hack on the project
2021-05-16 12:57:00 hoodedfigure until then, stay healthy!
2021-05-16 12:57:12 bookworm o/
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2021-05-16 15:42:47 -- Topic for #go-nuts is "golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?"
2021-05-16 15:42:47 -- Topic set by skelterjohn (sid13218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gfctwrngwpjcjgtp) on Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:13:21
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2021-05-16 17:55:23 dr0n Hello, This obviously is not working, I but thought I could use this syntax
2021-05-16 17:55:33 dr0n https://play.golang.org/p/FaCm81QoFKg
2021-05-16 17:56:08 dr0n am I using the correct data structure
2021-05-16 17:56:31 Tv` dr0n: you seem to be confusing the slice with the structs inside the slice
2021-05-16 17:56:55 Tv` you're trying to assign a string slice to each slice item
2021-05-16 17:57:10 Tv` while the slice expects a struct with fields number and letters
2021-05-16 17:57:33 Tv` also you can't use both var and :=, := is a shortcut for var
2021-05-16 17:58:53 Tv` based on the data you have (missing indices), maybe you wanted dataset := map[int]string{1: "A, E, I, O, U, L, N, R, S, T", 2: "D, G" and so on
2021-05-16 17:59:05 Tv` (you probably don't really want those commas and spaces inside the string, either)
2021-05-16 17:59:54 Tv` the for loop and the if inside look just weird, and don't communicate enough of your intent to be sure what you want
2021-05-16 18:00:26 Tv` err it seems like you want a score for each letter, and the result is sum of scores for every letter?
2021-05-16 18:00:35 dr0n Tv`: just to answer what my intention was, I am trying to 'add' the number depends on what letter is being matched
2021-05-16 18:00:56 dr0n for example; if 'A' is matched it will be 1; if D 2; then 1+2
2021-05-16 18:01:23 Tv` that's scores := map[rune]int{'A': 1, 'D': 2}; result := 0; for _, r := range word { result += scores[r] }
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2021-05-16 18:15:11 dr0n Tv`: Thansk!
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2021-05-16 18:20:33 dr0n I will play a bit to see if I can progress any further
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2021-05-16 21:53:07 b0nn seebs: How does someone use gerrit to see changes as they are happening?
2021-05-16 21:53:36 b0nn There's no (public?) link to a diff to look at
2021-05-16 21:54:04 b0nn oh, never mind - it's labelled as the name of the file
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2021-05-16 22:36:22 seebs i have no clue how to use gerrit to see anything :)
2021-05-16 22:38:00 b0nn It's not the most intuitive thing I've ever seen :)
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2021-05-16 23:16:37 ente_ has anyone ever done bulk inserts to sqlite using database/sql and go get github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3
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2021-05-17 04:50:29 neckutrek What's the simplest way of converting a TimeUnix type to a date formatted string in a .gohtml template?
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2021-05-17 07:10:41 sztanpet whats a timeunix type?
2021-05-17 07:11:20 sztanpet whats a .gohtml template, is it just template/html?
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2021-05-17 07:13:02 sztanpet if so, define your function that does the formatting when parsing your templates, see https://golang.org/pkg/text/template/#FuncMap
2021-05-17 07:13:04 vtx hi folks o/ is there a recommended way to compare two numerical interface{} types? is there a library or something that i should be using? i guess what i want is a library that can do gte or an lte on an int64 and a float64, or a uint16 and an int etc, and error if either type is non-numerical. i feel like this is something that might have already been solved by someone else?
2021-05-17 07:15:03 sztanpet sounds like trying to make dynamic typing work
2021-05-17 07:15:24 sztanpet you will have a bad time, i doubt theres any "recommended" way
2021-05-17 07:19:34 vtx hmmm okay; i'm thinking what would be the best type that all other types could be converted to without a loss of precision? float64?
2021-05-17 07:19:43 andlabs sztanpet: and if it's just time.Time then you already have access ot its methods if you expose it directly in the text/template
2021-05-17 07:20:14 andlabs vtx: what are you trying to accomplish by doing this
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2021-05-17 07:21:38 vtx andlabs: i just want to compare two numerical types; i'm not sure how to deal with comparing int64 to float64 or uint16 to an int etc, other than a huge switch with another huge switch for the second operand, per case?
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2021-05-17 07:22:24 fizzie You can't convert an int64 to a float64 without loss of precision.
2021-05-17 07:23:59 andlabs but why do you want to do that comparison? normally you would know the type sof the things you want to compare, and (in the case of the floating types) which comparisons are safe
2021-05-17 07:24:12 SoF I have been summoned
2021-05-17 07:25:13 vtx normally you do but in this case i won't, so i have to work with interface{} for both operands
2021-05-17 07:27:29 andlabs well package math/big might be your best bet there then, possibly
2021-05-17 07:28:46 andlabs maybe keeping floats as float64
2021-05-17 07:28:48 andlabs good luck
2021-05-17 07:30:50 laddite hello, I have a weird case where I cannot use net.Dial for UNIX domain sockets. here's a simple reproducible example: https://pastebin.com/Yqsijzq2
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2021-05-17 07:31:55 laddite the same thing works fine with logger -u /dev/log hello
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2021-05-17 07:36:43 dntreou Hello everyone, I am wondering why I am unable to do the following type X String; y := "something"; var myapp.X = y? I am unable to complete the last statement It says that y is a *string and x is of X type
2021-05-17 07:40:25 SoF dntreou: myapp.X(y)
2021-05-17 07:40:39 SoF var myapp.X = myapp.X(y)
2021-05-17 07:40:48 SoF well there's an identifier missing
2021-05-17 07:40:59 SoF so "var yNew myapp.X = myapp.X(y)"
2021-05-17 07:41:17 SoF at that point the compiler's gonna complain about the redundant myapp.X
2021-05-17 07:42:10 SoF https://play.golang.org/ also you should probably paste your code in here
2021-05-17 07:42:49 dntreou when i run the following var who = myapp.X(someStringVariable) I get this error Cannot convert expression of type '*string' to type 'X'
2021-05-17 07:44:07 SoF dntreou: use the playground. the code you pasted here would compile
2021-05-17 07:45:04 dntreou https://play.golang.org/p/I31bilgiLd9
2021-05-17 07:45:41 SoF it compiles. https://play.golang.org/p/viCu4AXM8_5
2021-05-17 07:47:16 dntreou SoF: this is what I actually have that y is comming from a flag https://play.golang.org/p/N2jbEIri1dZ
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2021-05-17 07:48:18 SoF dntreou: flag returns a pointer to a string, you need to dereference it like so: https://play.golang.org/p/EDe2ygun3AR
2021-05-17 07:49:25 SoF but make sure you look at some examples using the 'flag' package, you need to flag.Parse before you dereference iirc
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2021-05-17 07:51:57 dntreou Reading now, that dereference did work you were right also
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2021-05-17 08:04:30 laddite figured it out, needed to use unixgram instead of unix
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2021-05-17 08:25:45 hoodedfigure Hey guys, is there a way to use an log.Logger like an io.Writer?
2021-05-17 08:26:37 hoodedfigure I want to pass the logger to an os.exec so that it prefixes the output with Date/Time and tag
2021-05-17 08:27:41 l0k0 is log.Logger an interface?
2021-05-17 08:28:05 hoodedfigure No, I mean an instance
2021-05-17 08:30:20 l0k0 https://golang.org/pkg/log/#New If you made that a multireaderwriter you could pass data to print through the second writer in it, the other one to the logger
2021-05-17 08:31:54 l0k0 or write a custom reader/writer implementation (you could use close to shut it down making it a readerwritercloser)
2021-05-17 08:33:20 hendry how come #%.3x prints 6 hex characters? shouldn't "3" mean... three? https://play.golang.org/p/AHV0kLSGRP9
2021-05-17 08:35:33 l0k0 @hoodedfigure you need a protocol for end of statement/message so the handler knows what is what when the buffer happens to have several messages waiting
2021-05-17 08:36:38 l0k0 if you are interested I wrote a bundle of bits that gives you a friendly, highly configurable logging system with source location
2021-05-17 08:36:53 l0k0 it of course has a check function for errors
2021-05-17 08:37:50 l0k0 it can direct to any kind of reader, uses a generator and some git library to scan the repository to get the details for how to split the source to the repo root (so hyperlinking needs to know that)
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2021-05-17 08:39:37 hoodedfigure l0k0: when you say 'bundle of bits', is that a go-specific term or just slang?
2021-05-17 08:40:10 sztanpet hendry make sure to closely read the docs https://golang.org/pkg/fmt/ %x base 16, lower-case, two characters per byte
2021-05-17 08:41:10 sztanpet hendry .3x means print 3 bytes, hex encoded and that is exactly what happens
2021-05-17 08:43:03 l0k0 @hoodedfigure just because it's only just getting close to stable
2021-05-17 08:43:43 l0k0 it has interchangeable writer and a channel that sends log entries to, presumably, network or storage handlers
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2021-05-17 08:44:55 hoodedfigure l0k0: thank you, I think the priority is not so high on my side so I will just log directly to stdout – unprefixed for now.
2021-05-17 08:45:33 l0k0 I recommend using os.Stderr, use os.Stdout only for stuff that you want to pass through pipes
2021-05-17 08:46:40 l0k0 i mean yes, you *can* catch stderr in a pipe but the syntax is ugly and unmemorable
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2021-05-17 08:48:00 l0k0 yeah the caveat to my package is that you have to import it into each package so I do that by copying the file around, but after that it's just log.E.Ln("this prints a line")
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2021-05-17 08:48:42 hendry sztanpet: thank you
2021-05-17 08:49:33 sztanpet hoodedfigure also, the logger is fundamentally a record based stream, and io.writer is not, you would have to specify to always pass your entire message to that writer or else be interleaved when concurrent
2021-05-17 08:49:50 hoodedfigure l0k0: I separate go logs (stderr, default) and command logs (stdout)
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2021-05-17 13:43:10 CustosLimen I want to do OIDC validation of JWTs, is this the best option for that: https://github.com/coreos/go-oidc?
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2021-05-17 13:45:15 siXy I wonder what the maintenance state is of the coreos libs now RH bought it and killed it...
2021-05-17 13:46:16 siXy ah, that one specifically looks to be maintained by some of the k8s people, so that lib should be fine
2021-05-17 13:46:48 siXy presumably k8s relys upon it, which would be why they're maintaining it
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2021-05-17 13:55:28 Tv` siXy: all due to be rewritten with cgo dependencies to devmapper and libbtrfs, i'm sure
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2021-05-17 13:55:50 * siXy grins
2021-05-17 13:56:01 Tv` siXy: oh i forgot, Glib and OSTree
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2021-05-17 14:00:18 CustosLimen siXy: to say RH killed CoreOS is a bit simplistic
2021-05-17 14:00:33 CustosLimen https://getfedora.org/en/coreos?stream=stable
2021-05-17 14:00:57 Tv` Fedora CoreOS != CoreOS
2021-05-17 14:01:19 CustosLimen and coreos/go-oidc != CoreOS
2021-05-17 14:01:55 siXy CustosLimen: That's a long way away from real coreos. It's only useful if you want RH's openshift, and, well, that's an.... unusual... thing to want
2021-05-17 14:03:58 CustosLimen is there some other OIDC library to consider?
2021-05-17 14:06:37 siXy CustosLimen: That specific lib looks a good choice, as it seems widely used and well maintained.
2021-05-17 14:06:39 avoozl I've used https://github.com/Kopano-dev/oidc-go
2021-05-17 14:07:24 siXy Looks like eric chiang (sp?) is doing a lot of maint on it, and he's a smart guy.
2021-05-17 14:07:26 CustosLimen avoozl: thanks, did not see that one
2021-05-17 14:08:42 CustosLimen coreos one looks simpler
2021-05-17 14:08:44 CustosLimen will go for that
2021-05-17 14:09:09 avoozl CustosLimen: it was mainly because I was integrating with other kopano stuff, so pick what suits you best :)
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2021-05-17 16:19:24 xMopx what's the preferred go integrations for Sublime Text these days? I can't seem to find a working linter
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2021-05-17 16:36:03 b0nn xMopx: Not sure about sublime, but the two dominant "mega-linters" are golangci-lint and staticcheck
2021-05-17 16:38:12 xMopx thanks, staticcheck is new to me, ill check that one out too.
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2021-05-17 16:39:16 b0nn google suggests to me that there are a few Sublime "interface plugins" for staticcheck
2021-05-17 16:39:38 * b0nn is a vim user so has no idea how sublime does its thang
2021-05-17 16:40:55 bsandro i wonder if can 'marry' one of that linters to nano (>'-')>
2021-05-17 16:41:20 b0nn sounds like a nice side project
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2021-05-17 16:42:38 bsandro once i married nano with fzf. that turned out usable but quite abysmal :D
2021-05-17 16:44:54 b0nn lol, I have to be honest the editor snob in me was a little ill at the first suggestion, but now you've got me wondering how far nano can be pushed
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2021-05-17 16:46:46 xMopx the sublime plugins for go were.... shifty at best a couple years ago and im finding that they've not improved since then
2021-05-17 16:46:51 xMopx i think it's time to switch ides
2021-05-17 16:47:21 bsandro b0nn: i used vim/nvim for like a decade and somehow ended up with nano for now
2021-05-17 16:47:46 b0nn xMopx: write the book you want to read - if the plugins are naff, write better ones?
2021-05-17 16:48:10 * b0nn shrugs
2021-05-17 16:48:49 xMopx eh im setting up tools to go work on my actual tools, dont really feel like adding a 3rd layer of that haha
2021-05-17 16:49:47 mrig Time for an editor written in go perhaps?
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2021-05-17 16:50:13 b0nn mrig: govim is IIRC written in GO (wlthough it's a layer over vim)
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2021-05-17 16:51:14 mrig ah, I've not come across that yet, will have to take a look. Though vim is in C and likely that its threads are not as nimble as those of the go run-time :)
2021-05-17 16:51:29 mrig I think it does have them though.
2021-05-17 16:52:22 mrig oh is that the plugin for vim, right.
2021-05-17 16:52:42 b0nn yeah https://github.com/govim/govim
2021-05-17 16:53:12 b0nn I've never used it - vim-go has always more than satisfied my needs
2021-05-17 16:54:15 b0nn Although I was a bit worried when Fatih dropped support for vim-go, but someone else (I forget whoo off the top of my head) picked it back up, then I think fatih came back to the project
2021-05-17 16:55:13 b0nn er, when I say "dropped support for" I mean, "Gave up being the maintainer" and the project was an orphan for a little whiles
2021-05-17 16:55:24 mrig I've not tried govim and am using vim-go at the moment, might take a look though.
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2021-05-17 17:30:50 b0nn hmm, seperation of concerns - I load data, massage it, and store it in structures - should search be in the data package, or a standalone package
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2021-05-17 19:16:54 mrus hey there, I'm having some trouble with a html template. At the beginning of the template I have {{ $currentPage := . }} and then at some point I do {{ $currentPage.myFunc "bla" }}. How do I need to add "myFunc" to the template processor so a Go func is called for that? Seems like when I try to add it to the funcMap it doesn't work.
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2021-05-17 20:11:47 rairden I have beginner question on control structures. If you wouldn't mind looking at these 3-4 commits. https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/2121881
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2021-05-17 20:17:55 ente_ general question: should you use goto for exiting inner + outer loop or should you use an extra bool?'
2021-05-17 20:18:07 Tv` mrus: methods of values are fine, funcMap is for standalone functions, as in {{myFunc "bla"}}
2021-05-17 20:18:15 Tv` ente_: break
2021-05-17 20:18:30 ente_ Tv`: but does break not only exit the innermost loop?
2021-05-17 20:18:39 Tv` ente_: labels
2021-05-17 20:18:57 ente_ Tv`: how exactly? I have never done that I think
2021-05-17 20:19:10 b0nn ente_: goto or bool are fine, whichever you find easier to read
2021-05-17 20:19:28 ente_ Tv`: so you 'can' use goto - people always seem to shit on using goto
2021-05-17 20:19:37 ente_ but imo this would be a useful case
2021-05-17 20:20:03 Tv` ente_: outer: for { for { break outer } }
2021-05-17 20:20:19 ente_ Tv`: nice, I didn't know that was possible
2021-05-17 20:20:19 Tv` https://golang.org/ref/spec#Break_statements
2021-05-17 20:20:36 ente_ thanks for the fast answer Tv`
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2021-05-17 20:39:13 rairden that is the first time I've ever used goto. Only been using Go for a few months though.
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2021-05-17 21:10:48 b0nn I'm doing something silly with interfaces https://play.golang.org/p/A4g5lyBaJRs
2021-05-17 21:11:49 b0nn I cannot figure out how (line 44) to loop over the container - which is a []item (*Ticket, *User, and *Organisation all implement item)
2021-05-17 21:12:20 b0nn If I try and assert *[]item, I get an comma, ok issue, but still cannot access the index
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2021-05-17 21:25:16 b0nn Gah, was looking at the wrong line :\
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2021-05-18 02:33:45 sztanpet bad in what way?
2021-05-18 02:34:51 qrpnxz imma say yes
2021-05-18 02:36:02 sztanpet the language itself lets you do that so its not bad, the fact that the playground segfaulted seems also expected
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2021-05-18 02:39:45 qrpnxz > the language itself lets you do that so its not bad
2021-05-18 02:39:45 qrpnxz wronger words have not been spoken
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2021-05-18 02:41:40 tendime I love this language. Been immersed in it for about a month now. It's great! Alotta C, some Java, some Python, and just all the good things from different languages. No overloading too!
2021-05-18 02:43:21 qrpnxz yeah, it's my go-to language
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2021-05-18 02:52:04 sztanpet qrpnxz well the better question is what would you do against it
2021-05-18 02:52:39 qrpnxz idk wym
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2021-05-18 04:42:55 gpeskens Could someone point me to the correct way how to reference an int (int32) in an Iovec (takes a *byte)?
2021-05-18 04:43:43 gpeskens (i need to do syscalls that expect arguments via iovec, some of which have string values, some of which have int32 values)
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2021-05-18 04:47:45 b0nn gpeskens: Did you see this https://golang.hotexamples.com/examples/syscall/Iovec/-/golang-iovec-class-examples.html
2021-05-18 04:48:27 gpeskens Yeh
2021-05-18 04:48:37 gpeskens that's all assuming byte array as data type
2021-05-18 04:48:49 gpeskens (which I have working fine for strings)
2021-05-18 04:49:26 b0nn oh, and you need to pass a pointer to an int(32)?
2021-05-18 04:49:33 gpeskens Correct
2021-05-18 04:49:47 b0nn er, that looks like an int with a value of 32, I meant int/int32
2021-05-18 04:50:08 gpeskens The C code I'm replacing just does base = &intval & len = sizeof(intval)
2021-05-18 04:50:31 gpeskens That works, because in C the iovec base takes a void*
2021-05-18 04:51:05 gpeskens But in Golang it's a *byte
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2021-05-18 04:54:42 b0nn binary.LittleEndian.PutUint32
2021-05-18 04:55:10 b0nn Use that to put a uint32 into your byte?
2021-05-18 04:57:00 gpeskens Less than ideal, but better than nothing :P
2021-05-18 04:57:10 gpeskens (I'd like it to be a true pointer, as then I can just read the int)
2021-05-18 04:57:17 b0nn lol, I'll take that as a win :)
2021-05-18 04:57:20 gpeskens (and ideally I don't need to think about endianness)
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2021-05-18 04:57:44 gpeskens Though that last bit is a bit of a no-problem since 99% of the world is LE, except NBE
2021-05-18 04:58:29 b0nn If you want a "true" pointer, you would be looking at the unsafe.Pointer I think
2021-05-18 04:58:39 b0nn But this is well above my paygrade
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2021-05-18 04:59:38 sztanpet dont take a pointer, that brings gc issues with it
2021-05-18 05:00:08 sztanpet see https://golang.org/cmd/cgo/#hdr-Passing_pointers
2021-05-18 05:02:02 gpeskens sztanpet: that's cgo, I'm doing the syscalls directly via Go, so pointers should be fine
2021-05-18 05:02:17 sztanpet are you sure
2021-05-18 05:02:34 gpeskens Sure about doing the syscalls directly? Yeah :)
2021-05-18 05:03:59 sztanpet sadly i know nothing of use, might be worth looking at what the stdlib does with pointers to things
2021-05-18 05:04:06 sztanpet and syscalls
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2021-05-18 05:25:02 betawaffle where is the code that picks a new size when append exceeds capacity?
2021-05-18 05:27:17 sztanpet betawaffle https://github.com/golang/go/blob/master/src/runtime/slice.go#L144
2021-05-18 05:27:28 betawaffle thanks!
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2021-05-18 06:18:28 mrig b0nn: I managed to get govim installed, spectacularly smooth when running.
2021-05-18 06:19:04 mrig Had to compile vim though as my distro version was to antiquated to run it.
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2021-05-18 07:54:47 ejh so prior to go 1.16 I could just do a go get golang.org/x/net/html to use that in a program on plan 9
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2021-05-18 08:17:13 mrig Hello, does anyone know what the keyboard shortcut is to trigger a mouseover popup in vim?
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2021-05-18 08:26:59 mrig sorry, should explain that this is for trying out govim :)
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2021-05-18 08:32:49 hackinghorn I see that most outside import is from github.com. So if github goes down, lots of go code will stop functioning?
2021-05-18 08:33:25 aigoo go mod vendor
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2021-05-18 08:39:44 mrig vendor is a really nice addition for this, I was concerned about remote code; Solves it really well though.
2021-05-18 08:40:20 mrig If only I could get away from cgo next, I well be FREE!!!
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2021-05-18 09:08:19 hackinghorn so if github goes down, go mod vendor can help?
2021-05-18 09:09:55 mrig hackinghorn: vendor keeps a local copy of all source code used in a project with that project.
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2021-05-18 09:17:31 hackinghorn hmm, I will look into it, thankss
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2021-05-18 09:28:20 sztanpet hackinghorn also, module proxies solves this exact problem, also the infamous javascript left-pad problem
2021-05-18 09:28:24 rudi_s hackinghorn: Most of the time this isn't what you want.
2021-05-18 09:28:58 rudi_s And there's already a public proxy which caches packages. So if github.com goes down nothing should happen (for cached packages).
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2021-05-18 09:29:16 sztanpet and module proxies are by-default turned on
2021-05-18 09:29:20 hackinghorn ah ohh, module proxies, I didnt know it
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2021-05-18 09:30:50 sztanpet https://proxy.golang.org/ if you want more info, plenty of info is linked from there
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2021-05-18 09:33:28 hackinghorn ahh, thanks, I will look at it
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2021-05-18 09:35:23 mrig does setting goproxy=direct remove the slight delay that is incurred when updating remoter modules?
2021-05-18 09:35:30 mrig I should try it and see I suppose.
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2021-05-18 09:36:28 mrig Am curious as to the go mode tidy -e flag too, wondering if this would have helped out in a nasty cyclical error situation that I found myself in the other day.
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2021-05-18 09:37:18 mrig I think I can checkout to that point in the code and try to do the same again, now somewhat less ignorant.
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2021-05-18 09:37:37 sztanpet no
2021-05-18 09:37:57 mrig no cigar?
2021-05-18 09:38:09 sztanpet but if you look at the site i just linked, and read the FAQ, your issue is directly addressed
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2021-05-18 09:38:20 mrig I have read that.
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2021-05-18 09:39:02 sztanpet than sure, if as a consumer you have goproxy=direct than yes, it wont go through the proxy and thus the newest version will be fetched directly
2021-05-18 09:39:03 mrig the issue was related to moving the name space from a git modules to simple repo transformation.
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2021-05-18 09:39:21 mrig whilst using git vendor.
2021-05-18 09:39:35 mrig so that's quite a lot of updating links to remember to do.
2021-05-18 09:39:53 mrig I was nailed by the delay as I was not aware of it at that time.
2021-05-18 09:40:40 mrig that could be a nice way to remain on the automatic versioning and still deal with errors sensibly.
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2021-05-18 09:40:54 mrig to be switched back once bugs are ironed out.
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2021-05-18 09:44:42 mrig Well consumers will not be changing the code one would hope, but I do see what you mean. Thanks for pointing that out; It is not one of the things that I did try, will write this up once I get a satisfactory understanding and solution to the troubles that I've had.
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2021-05-18 09:45:23 mrig Cool system, difficult to get it smooth for every use case without the full picture.
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2021-05-18 09:56:24 littlekiwifruit Hi, I'm trying to understand why this program isn't working as expected: https://play.golang.org/p/y0SLvKP63wA I have written a wrapper around bytes.Buffer to invoke .Write and .String on it. I am doing the same writes to both structs so I would expect the printouts at the end to be the same. Yet they are not, very puzzling
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2021-05-18 09:58:41 fizzie littlekiwifruit: Give the `Write` method a pointer receiver, then you'll get the same output: https://play.golang.org/p/d0SjlSHCMc6
2021-05-18 09:58:41 siXy littlekiwifruit: You need func (w *Writer) Write ... and the same for the String method
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2021-05-18 09:58:58 siXy Otherwise you end up copying, and thus having a new buffer each time
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2021-05-18 10:00:30 littlekiwifruit aaah good catch, thanks fizzie siXy !
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2021-05-18 10:05:03 sztanpet littlekiwifruit use a pointer receiver
2021-05-18 10:05:44 Tv` gpeskens: you need to convert the pointer through unsafe.Pointer from *int32 to *[4]byte
2021-05-18 10:05:49 sztanpet littlekiwifruit see https://play.golang.org/p/0HkmAlIxZsb there were 3 changes, buf1 := &Writer{} and for the methods
2021-05-18 10:06:09 gpeskens thx Tv :) I found the solution :)
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2021-05-18 10:13:33 littlekiwifruit sztanpet ah neat, thanks I missed those other changes:D
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2021-05-18 10:21:15 sztanpet littlekiwifruit also maybe this will demonstrate whats happening https://play.golang.org/p/s2adNH9AN8R
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2021-05-18 10:35:12 fizzie There's no need to make `buf1` a pointer just to use a pointer receiver with the method.
2021-05-18 10:35:18 fizzie (Of course you *can* if you want to.)
2021-05-18 10:36:40 dntreou I want to build a database migrating tool, I have never created something like this in the past and I have got couple of questions.
2021-05-18 10:37:01 dntreou do I query my existing database get all the data in memory and then insert it in the new database?
2021-05-18 10:37:16 dntreou is that the logic of the database migration tool
2021-05-18 10:37:17 Tv` no
2021-05-18 10:37:37 Tv` dntreou: also, your definition of migrate seems to be different than what most people use
2021-05-18 10:37:49 Tv` generally, "database migration" = adjust for schema changes
2021-05-18 10:37:56 dntreou I want to migrate my data from mongo to sql db
2021-05-18 10:38:11 Tv` that's more like ETL, extract-transform-load
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2021-05-18 10:42:58 dntreou Tv`: Okay so what I described ( getting the data from one database and inserting it to the other) is an ETL
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2021-05-18 12:02:27 bloony https://play.golang.org/p/Q6aVwkgXNM5 I though ... would unpack as so it would work like the first printMulti call.. is there a way to get this work?
2021-05-18 12:02:33 bloony to work*
2021-05-18 12:03:34 icholy bloony: ...I is just suggar for []I
2021-05-18 12:03:52 icholy You can't pass []T to []I
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2021-05-18 12:04:56 bloony icholy: I know ...I is same as []I, but I was expecting as... to unpack it so it would work as the first call to printMulti..
2021-05-18 12:06:00 icholy bloony: it would require copying the `as` slice. Go tries to avoid hidden costs like that.
2021-05-18 12:06:33 Tv` bloony: https://golang.org/doc/faq#convert_slice_of_interface
2021-05-18 12:08:31 bloony Tv`: thanks
2021-05-18 12:08:44 bloony icholy: ah I see..
2021-05-18 12:08:47 bloony thanks
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2021-05-18 12:23:45 BenLubar I'm trying to figure out why my game is dropping frames, and it looks like it's the garbage collector: https://share.firefox.dev/33RIXYr is there a way to do a memory profile on js/wasm?
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2021-05-18 12:30:06 Tv` BenLubar: it's still the to gc inside wasm (for now?) so you should be able to profile it on non-wasm
2021-05-18 12:30:21 Tv` *go gc
2021-05-18 12:31:15 Tv` BenLubar: also encoding/binary.Read & Write are hilariously inefficient
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2021-05-18 12:33:17 BenLubar it shouldn't be calling those during the main game loop but if it's a problem I can make specialized read functions
2021-05-18 12:34:01 Tv` BenLubar: well they showed up in a random call stack i looked at, basically allocating slices was the reason to run the gc
2021-05-18 12:34:34 Tv` BenLubar: i'd suggest writing benchmarks of the core loops and doing -benchmem etc on them
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2021-05-18 12:45:25 seebs agreed. or run a profile of the thing for a given time window, and do both heap profiles (look at alloc_objects, probably)
2021-05-18 12:50:29 icholy Tv`: RE: binary.{Write, Read} inlining + dead-code-elimination could possibly make it free for some types.
2021-05-18 12:50:37 Tv` the really great thing about a good benchmark is that now you get to make changes + rerun, easily
2021-05-18 12:50:40 icholy Tv`: but I'm pretty sure it exceeds the inlining budget
2021-05-18 12:50:55 Tv` icholy: lots of calls to reflect...
2021-05-18 12:51:32 icholy Tv`: before using reflect, it has a fast-path using only type assetions
2021-05-18 12:52:16 Tv` icholy: yes but the typical use case is structs
2021-05-18 12:52:52 icholy ya, true
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2021-05-18 13:43:37 ori what's the idiomatic way to iterate on at most the first N elements of slice foo? in Python I could do `for x in xs[:N]`, but in golang if xs has capacity less than N, `for _, x := range xs[:N]` is a range error.
2021-05-18 13:44:47 aigoo Write a function to take a slice, and return at most N. for _, x := atmost(slice, N)
2021-05-18 13:45:01 aigoo range atmost*
2021-05-18 13:45:29 ori ok! thanks
2021-05-18 13:45:53 aigoo I suppose you could also make an AtMost(N) function on []SliceElement so you could do for _, x := range slice.AtMost(n)
2021-05-18 13:48:42 icholy if len(s) > 10 { s = s[:10] }; for range s {}
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2021-05-18 14:37:46 Tv` what icholy said
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2021-05-18 14:55:26 j416 simple wins
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2021-05-18 15:53:27 BenLubar just following up on the garbage collector thing from earlier: I may be doomed (for now) as every js.Value.* function allocates on the heap: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/44006
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2021-05-18 17:38:37 Tv` the hardest thing in Computer Science is knowing whether it's spelled regexp or regex this time around
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2021-05-18 17:45:19 mrig dang, someone should regulate that expression!
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2021-05-18 18:51:47 teaspoon Suppose I iterate over the keys of a map with `for k := range m { /* ... */ }`, and in each iteration I delete that key from the map with `delete(m, k)`. Does this guarantee that I will delete every key from the map? Or is that not guaranteed when I'm removing keys from the map while iterating over it in this manner?
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2021-05-18 18:53:28 teaspoon Testing locally it seems that it'll always go over every key and so this will delete them all, but is there any section in the docs/spec that say that it is OK to remove from the map while iterating like this?
2021-05-18 18:56:15 aigoo https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23229975/is-it-safe-to-remove-selected-keys-from-map-within-a-range-loop
2021-05-18 18:56:44 j416 teaspoon: I remember or perhaps misremember reading something about this, but I can't find it. This however, hints that looping over a map while deleting is fine. https://golang.org/doc/effective_go#for
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2021-05-18 18:57:46 j416 ah, in the corresponding section of the spec of course.
2021-05-18 18:58:06 j416 https://golang.org/ref/spec#For_range
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2021-05-18 19:03:27 j416 the last answer on the SO question aigoo linked presents a useful way to think about iteration. thanks for making me read that.
2021-05-18 19:03:45 j416 (quote from ianlancetaylor)
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2021-05-18 19:09:02 teaspoon aigoo, j416: Interesting. I read that part of the spec and it doesn't explicity state that you can delete keys that have already been iterated over. It only says that if you delete a key that hasn't been iterated over yet, it won't be produced. However since it doesn't say anything _against_ deleting keys that have been iterated over, and given the example in Effective Go, I'm persuaded to think that it's
2021-05-18 19:09:04 teaspoon safe to do so.
2021-05-18 19:09:14 teaspoon Thanks for the help.
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2021-05-18 19:11:22 tendime Good morning from TYO!
2021-05-18 19:11:33 b0nn tyo?
2021-05-18 19:11:47 tendime oh, yeah...
2021-05-18 19:11:56 b0nn tokyo?
2021-05-18 19:11:58 tendime 8:11 here... AM
2021-05-18 19:12:01 tendime Yes
2021-05-18 19:12:14 b0nn it's 0912 here (AEST)
2021-05-18 19:12:45 b0nn The main Go shop in Tokyo, that I know of, is Mercari :)
2021-05-18 19:13:03 tendime Yes, they like it a bit.
2021-05-18 19:13:39 tendime While Go programming is just part of what I do, happened to know that.
2021-05-18 19:13:49 b0nn I missed a job with them about 2 years back, because I didn't have enough caching knowledge
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2021-05-18 19:14:06 b0nn s/enough/any
2021-05-18 19:14:47 tendime Interesting. I missed a job with them about a year back... didn't understand why. Interviewed four times.
2021-05-18 19:15:10 b0nn Oh, they didn't provide any feedback?
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2021-05-18 19:15:38 b0nn For me they didn't either, but it was clear to me where I had failed ... by the silence I produced when they asked me the question :)
2021-05-18 19:16:01 tendime Nothing tangible... probably just picked a different candidate. But got busy right after that any way, so never looked back.
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2021-05-18 19:17:52 tendime lol... I hate that feeling. Finally figured out what AEST is! Cool! Same side of the world...
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2021-05-18 19:18:53 b0nn ha, failure doesn't phase me, as long as I know *why*, I can change that
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2021-05-18 19:19:19 b0nn It's when there's zero feedback, or, worse, it's things I cannot change
2021-05-18 19:19:29 b0nn Then it's bad
2021-05-18 19:20:06 tendime Right. I would have normally fixated over the why, but for some reason, not that time. I think it was because there were a couple of options on the table at the same time.
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2021-05-18 20:15:46 qrpnxz is there a way to check if a test already ran (and passed)? That way I can not run tests that depend on that thing working.
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2021-05-18 20:18:11 jemaclus typically I write tests that are isolated and don't have any external dependencies... not sure...
2021-05-18 20:21:56 qrpnxz I guess i use subtests
2021-05-18 20:22:00 b0nn jemaclus: go test -v will tell which tests ran, and their outcome
2021-05-18 20:22:46 jemaclus sure, but in an automated way is what I think qrpnxz is asking
2021-05-18 20:23:07 b0nn sub tests come out as Testname/SubTest (If done correctly)
2021-05-18 20:23:38 b0nn and you /cannot/ just run one subtest - it's all of the subtests
2021-05-18 20:23:43 b0nn or none
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2021-05-18 20:38:19 nezxan can I create a struct within a struct (similar to json formatting) and how could I work with that?
2021-05-18 20:38:24 nezxan see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yNvRDB6hfW/
2021-05-18 20:38:35 nezxan how would I give a value to Address.Street ?
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2021-05-18 20:43:59 b0nn nezxan: Address is a struct on its own so there's a few approches: {FirstName: "John", IsAlive: true, Address: struct{Street string; City string; State string}{Street: "Mulholland Drive 2"}}
2021-05-18 20:44:44 b0nn Or Have Address defined outside the employee struct, and Address: Address{Street: "Foo bar"}}
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2021-05-18 20:46:04 b0nn This has an implementation of the second idea https://golangbyexample.com/nested-struct-golang/
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2021-05-18 20:46:42 b0nn The first idea (anonymous struct) I don't know (without checking) if the annotations become an issue
2021-05-18 20:47:03 nezxan b0nn: the second probably is best
2021-05-18 20:47:07 nezxan b0nn: thanks a lot :)
2021-05-18 20:47:08 b0nn er s/annotations/struct tags
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2021-05-18 22:43:00 hackinghorn hi, if I want local import, I have to do import "./[..]" ?
2021-05-18 22:44:18 hackinghorn sometimes, in the same project, I see they import from the remote repo like github.com/.. , not locally
2021-05-18 22:45:26 fizzie That's not a "sometimes", it's an "almost all the time". There's no relative imports really.
2021-05-18 22:46:11 fizzie They're still local as long as they're part of the same module, you just write out the full absolute import path.
2021-05-18 22:47:08 b0nn hackinghorn: are you talking about modules?
2021-05-18 22:47:45 hackinghorn eh really?
2021-05-18 22:47:57 hackinghorn I'm not sure what im talking about
2021-05-18 22:48:58 fizzie https://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Relative_import_paths -- there's only two ways relative import paths work: one's on the command line (and thus unrelated to imports in .go files), and the other's kind of a niche.
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2021-05-18 22:50:38 b0nn hackinghorn: are you able to give a clearer view on what you're asking with a small bit of code on play.golang.org?
2021-05-18 22:50:39 ente_ hackinghorn: it is often easier to just use a module instead of working with relative imports in my experience
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2021-05-19 00:19:29 hackhorn sorry I'm back
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2021-05-19 00:21:32 hackhorn can I name my module any name if noone will import it?
2021-05-19 00:22:37 hackhorn hmm I think so
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2021-05-19 04:10:17 b0nn hrm, if I have a file foo/load.go and it loads files from foo/data/* it's a real PITA to have to use a different PATH when calling from cmd/main.go :\
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2021-05-19 04:11:26 b0nn eg. in testing I can use data/file but when running from cmd/main.go I have to use a full PATH or ../foo/data
2021-05-19 04:12:18 b0nn ack, this is what embedding is supposed to solve
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2021-05-19 07:09:44 shunkica I'm writing a program that allows me to execute SQL-like queries on a proprietary binary file. It's basically a set of rows and columns which can be ascii chars, ints or floats. I have two problems with this: 1. the conversion of byte slices to either strings using string([]byte),ints using binary.LittleEndian and then back to string for
2021-05-19 07:09:44 shunkica output(using itoa), or floats (using math.floatxxfrombits(binary.littleendian)) and then back to string using sprintf, is taking a lot more time than this same program written in C. I do not have the source for the program written in C but the fact that this program takes 3 seconds to select from a  300MB file, and my program takes 70 seconds for
2021-05-19 07:09:45 shunkica this same select, tells me that I must be doing something wrong. - 2. I am storing the resulting strings in a map[Column{table string, column string}]string, and the assignment to this map takes a ridiculous amount of time sometimes ( depending on the field it takes 2x to 20x times longer than the time it takes to convert the byte slice to string )
2021-05-19 07:09:45 shunkica - this is the function responsible for parsing the bytes: https://play.golang.org/p/ZxkfTpw8dUS
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2021-05-19 08:05:29 sztanpet shunkica maybe this can help https://dave.cheney.net/high-performance-go-workshop/gophercon-2019.html
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2021-05-19 08:09:11 sztanpet or in other words, profile your code to see where the bottlenecks are
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2021-05-19 08:41:36 shunkica I managed to speed it up considerably. The problem was that I was parsing every row in its entirety, then I was applying the filters from the WHERE clause. But I really did not need to parse all the fields, only the ones from the where clause. Now I changed it to only parse the entire row if the fields from the WHERE clause match the current row
2021-05-19 08:41:37 shunkica and got a speedup for 30x for my test select.
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2021-05-19 09:09:40 SamWhited Hi mods; I'm sure you've heard about the libera.chat move. I've snagged #go-nuts over there, so if you end up also moving ping me on here so I can verify that you are who you say you are and I'll grant you +o there too. Thanks for stewarding this channel!
2021-05-19 09:14:35 bloony https://play.golang.org/p/VOE3s4oE1V5 does this create the slice twice? or will it be optimized by the compiler?
2021-05-19 09:16:33 qrpnxz gj sam
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2021-05-19 09:20:57 betawaffle same, i also have #golang over there
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2021-05-19 10:42:04 i0x71 hey, can anyone suggest how i can get the latest version of a github package using go get, it keeps using old version. Using go 1.16.4
2021-05-19 10:42:07 i0x71 Thanks
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2021-05-19 10:44:07 fizzie i0x71: If it's proxy.golang.org delays you're seeing, check out the first question of the FAQ section at https://proxy.golang.org/ -- specifically, it suggests requesting a specific version with the `go get ...@version` syntax, which should cause it to refresh.
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2021-05-19 10:44:54 i0x71 fizzie: hmmm, i think it may infact me a delay
2021-05-19 10:44:56 i0x71 thanks
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2021-05-19 10:46:29 i0x71 fizzie: is there a way to avoid using proxy ?
2021-05-19 10:46:56 i0x71 ah
2021-05-19 10:47:00 i0x71 GOPROXY=direct go get -u does the trick
2021-05-19 10:47:02 i0x71 thanks alot
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2021-05-19 10:48:34 hoodedfigure Hi, with GORM: can I create a new object from struct (var obj MyObj), fill it with data (obj.Name = "foo") and write the complete object into database?
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2021-05-19 11:04:44 hoodedfigure Is this a short notation: user := User{Name: "Jinzhu", Age: 18}
2021-05-19 11:04:44 hoodedfigure For this?var user User; user.Name = "Jinzhu"; user.Age = 18
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2021-05-19 11:11:59 fizzie hoodedfigure: It's really the combination of two notations: the short variable declaration, and a composite (struct) literal. But yes.
2021-05-19 11:12:39 fizzie (You can use the two independently of each other.)
2021-05-19 11:13:19 hoodedfigure fizzie: both will result in identically scoped, etc. variables?
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2021-05-19 11:13:32 sztanpet tour.golang.org if in doubt
2021-05-19 11:13:43 hoodedfigure :D
2021-05-19 11:13:45 fizzie `user := ...` is shorthand for `var user = ...`, which is shorthand for `var user {type of the expression ...} = ...`: https://golang.org/ref/spec#Short_variable_declarations
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2021-05-19 11:14:21 hoodedfigure Thanks, and sorry for n00b question
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2021-05-19 11:18:23 sztanpet thats why were here, sorry for the rtfm replies :)
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2021-05-19 11:22:52 explodes Are we moving servers?
2021-05-19 11:22:57 explodes https://www.kline.sh/
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2021-05-19 11:27:23 sztanpet "who cares"
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2021-05-19 11:31:22 hoodedfigure sztanpet: if you guys point me to the relevant chapter it is always appreciated :D
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2021-05-19 11:39:28 hoodedfigure Generics are still in the pipe or are they already released?
2021-05-19 11:40:22 hoodedfigure Looks like they will be released later this year
2021-05-19 11:40:22 hoodedfigure https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/generics-in-golang/
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2021-05-19 12:20:34 icholy is there any way to get the old `godoc -template` behaviour back?
2021-05-19 12:20:54 icholy also is anyone aware of an issue for adding -template to `go doc`?
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2021-05-19 12:22:10 icholy found it https://github.com/golang/go/issues/41744
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2021-05-19 13:31:12 A_D Given the ongoing freenode crisis, are there any discussions ongoing to move this channel elsewhere?
2021-05-19 13:32:04 +Aram there's #go-nuts on Libera
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2021-05-19 13:57:55 pjs excellent
2021-05-19 14:00:02 oz :)
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2021-05-19 14:02:31 oz I like the "if freenode dies", looks like a subtle "defer recoverIrcDied()"
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2021-05-19 14:24:01 mrig Hello
2021-05-19 14:25:05 mrig Does go get url@latest expect a v0.0.0.ref type pseudo version?
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2021-05-19 14:26:27 mrig I have set my GONOPROXY variable with the url of a repo, but when I try to use @latest I am getting the following error :
2021-05-19 14:26:30 mrig go get: github.com/8i8/http@latest (v0.0.0-00010101000000-000000000000) requires github.com/8i8/http@v0.0.0-20210509115950-98b44507eace, not github.com/8i8/http@latest (v0.0.0-00010101000000-000000000000)
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2021-05-19 14:27:28 mrig The actual repo has a version v0.0.n
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2021-05-19 14:41:09 Tv` that's a weird message. module requires itself?
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2021-05-19 14:44:44 lungaro Hmmm, is IRC being ripped apart by this Freenode fiasco? I'm now in #go-nuts on Libera.Chat
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2021-05-19 14:45:03 lungaro curious if anyone knows if there is official plans to migrate
2021-05-19 14:46:09 Tv` lungaro: not much official about this thing in the first place
2021-05-19 14:46:15 lungaro True =P
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2021-05-19 15:17:52 johnny56 I'm having a hard time understanding why when I switch from a i.e. "type config struct { metrics Metrics }" to "type config struct { metrics []Metrics }" I lose the ability to drill down into the variable and access the paths below Metrics when using []Metrics
2021-05-19 15:18:15 johnny56 I.E before the change I do config.Metrics.Name but after the change I can only see config.Metrics and not .Name
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2021-05-19 15:20:53 jemaclus because .Metrics is now a slice. You would need to do config.Metrics[0].Name
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2021-05-19 15:30:53 johnny56 omg I'm such a idiot 🤦 thx
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2021-05-19 15:41:04 mrig Tv`: I'm glad that I'm not the only person that finds it a little odd.
2021-05-19 15:42:52 mrig I think a few new repos just to test what is happening and how it works could be the way to go; Very cryptic though.
2021-05-19 15:44:11 b0nn https://events.google.com/io/session/7b7e7dd8-57a5-4459-a96e-1494d09efbe6?lng=en
2021-05-19 15:44:20 b0nn ^Going live in ~90 minutes
2021-05-19 15:45:21 pjs nice
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2021-05-19 15:51:44 mrig oh of course it would help if I removed the replace directive.
2021-05-19 15:52:06 mrig The error output are not ideal here.
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2021-05-19 16:10:15 ranu Hello, I'm having problem returning pgx.Rows from a function
2021-05-19 16:10:28 ranu The compiler says I can't do that but the explanation is not quite clear
2021-05-19 16:11:09 b0nn ranu: post some of your code on play.golang.org so people can see what you are having problems with
2021-05-19 16:11:16 ranu Okay
2021-05-19 16:12:05 ranu https://play.golang.org/p/_sNoggiz6L5
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2021-05-19 16:12:45 ranu cannot use &r (value of type *pgx.Rows) as *pgx.Rows value in return statement is the error message from the compiler
2021-05-19 16:13:04 ranu Well, I think I got it
2021-05-19 16:13:09 ranu The package used is wrong
2021-05-19 16:13:22 Tv` v4 versus v1
2021-05-19 16:13:44 ranu Yep
2021-05-19 16:14:06 b0nn ranu: the IRC rubber duck wins again
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2021-05-19 16:16:30 ranu b0nn, sure it did hahaha
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2021-05-19 16:27:57 shibumi if I want to build a file only on unix systems (darwin AND linux) can I use _unix.go as file suffix?
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2021-05-19 16:28:06 shibumi I only found _linux and _windows suffixes in the wild
2021-05-19 16:28:14 shibumi or is a !windows build constraint the way to go?
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2021-05-19 16:32:20 b0nn shibumi: It depends :)
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2021-05-19 16:33:07 b0nn https://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Build_constraints has // +build linux,386 darwin,!cgo as an example (linux AND 385) OR (darwin AND (NOT cgo))
2021-05-19 16:33:56 johnny56 I have a variable defined outside of a for loop, "results := httpResults{}" the for loop has a nested for loop with the nested for loop appending the data to the result variable. I'm only seeing the data from the last outer loop run and not the first out loop run does anyone have any idea why it's missing ?
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2021-05-19 16:35:01 j416 shibumi: *_unix.go will build on Darwin
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2021-05-19 16:36:34 shibumi j416: only on darwin or linux as well?
2021-05-19 16:36:41 shibumi j416: I thought _darwin.go is for darwin
2021-05-19 16:36:41 j416 both
2021-05-19 16:36:45 shibumi ah okay cool
2021-05-19 16:36:47 shibumi thanks
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2021-05-19 16:38:02 j416 shibumi: *_darwin.go will run on Darwin but not linux
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2021-05-19 16:40:51 j416 shibumi: you can check with go list; create your files, then GOOS=linux go list -f '{{.GoFiles}}'
2021-05-19 16:40:59 j416 (or whichever OS)
2021-05-19 16:41:07 shibumi Ah cool.
2021-05-19 16:41:12 shibumi Thanks a lot
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2021-05-19 16:41:44 j416 learnt list trick from https://dave.cheney.net/2013/10/12/how-to-use-conditional-compilation-with-the-go-build-tool
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2021-05-19 17:34:42 impermanence logrus or zap and why? or something else? or does it not matter?
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2021-05-19 17:36:51 b0nn Zap has been getting a lot of press on how 'fast' it is, and how little resource it consumes
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2021-05-19 17:40:16 impermanence b0nn: yeah they list stats in their main git
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2021-05-19 17:40:20 impermanence which is cool
2021-05-19 17:41:14 impermanence how about yaml processing?
2021-05-19 17:41:22 impermanence I guess I'm going to use yamlv3?
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2021-05-19 17:46:58 impermanence how do I get the right semver for something like yamlv3 lol?
2021-05-19 17:47:13 impermanence (for my go.mod)
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2021-05-19 17:53:16 b0nn This has just started https://events.google.com/io/session/7b7e7dd8-57a5-4459-a96e-1494d09efbe6?lng=en
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2021-05-19 18:27:31 pjs b0nn: isn't that the same as earlier?
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2021-05-19 18:28:21 b0nn Yeah, but it'd only started when I posted the second time
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2021-05-19 18:29:06 pjs b0nn: hrmm, I think it's just replaying. I saw the second half of this earlier.
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2021-05-19 18:32:50 b0nn ok
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2021-05-19 19:32:59 internut Some may recall, last week I was asking about the data structure that comes out of the json decoder when you decode into an interface{}.
2021-05-19 19:33:53 internut I was trying to find a name for that thing, so I could search for tools to manipulate it.
2021-05-19 19:34:09 internut (which a number of people said was a bad idea BTW)
2021-05-19 19:34:50 internut but, I use gojq extensively on these objects, and basically wanted 'diff' and 'patch' for them
2021-05-19 19:35:33 internut github.com/clucia/amorph (I call the objects Amorphs)
2021-05-19 19:35:42 internut feel free to poke holes
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2021-05-19 19:58:59 b0nn Ah, you don't wanna go there anyways, Go more than satisfies your requirements :P
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2021-05-19 20:08:31 * pjs chuckles
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2021-05-19 20:21:27 b0nn lol
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2021-05-19 21:24:44 b0nn there are 122 nicks in the libera.chat version of this channel
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2021-05-19 21:35:12 iateadonut hi daesu
2021-05-19 21:36:53 daesu hey
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2021-05-19 21:54:08 nezxan b0nn: is it official in any way?
2021-05-19 21:54:22 b0nn I don't know
2021-05-19 21:54:25 nezxan then again, how official is #go-nuts in freenode + the topic says it all atm
2021-05-19 21:54:30 nezxan s/in/on
2021-05-19 21:54:51 b0nn so, on freenode, the go-* channels are supposed to be controlled by the Go team
2021-05-19 21:55:07 b0nn I'm not sure what the policy is on libera.chat
2021-05-19 21:55:29 nezxan it's by former freenode staffers that heavily empathize migration
2021-05-19 21:55:34 nezxan I guess policies would be similar
2021-05-19 21:55:35 b0nn But, for the moment, I have an account on both servers to see which one survives
2021-05-19 21:56:20 nezxan one channel migrated to oftc, which was quickly decided and is now enforced ; I don't really care much either way, I will go where the users end up
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2021-05-19 23:07:03 pepee sooo, are you people moving too?
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2021-05-19 23:07:41 pepee nvm, I see you already discussed the topic
2021-05-19 23:10:00 foobaz i'm not comfortable making judgements after hearing only one side of the story
2021-05-19 23:10:22 foobaz and if i did want to move, i'd prefer to go to a mature network like oftc or efnet
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2021-05-19 23:11:05 pepee yeah, oftc is good
2021-05-19 23:11:15 daesu Indeed, I'm curious why oftc/efnet etc were not chosen instead of libera chat. I never heard of it b4 now.
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2021-05-19 23:11:48 foobaz moving to libra chat gives control to those who just lost power and are trying to reclaim it
2021-05-19 23:12:17 pepee https://www.kline.sh/ https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
2021-05-19 23:12:43 foobaz this makes them seem self-serving, if they were interested in the well being of the users, why not tell people to go to oftc?
2021-05-19 23:13:54 pepee dunno. for all I know you could be right
2021-05-19 23:14:23 pepee still, freenode and oftc have different objectives I guess
2021-05-19 23:14:30 b0nn There's nothing forcing you to move
2021-05-19 23:14:36 pepee to me personally,I find all of this drama sad
2021-05-19 23:14:45 pepee yep, what b0nn said
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2021-05-19 23:15:21 b0nn The options are, stay here, don't stay here, go to slack/discord/another IRC network
2021-05-19 23:17:20 pepee pls don't use discord or slack...
2021-05-19 23:17:34 daesu +1 no slack
2021-05-19 23:17:47 pepee I'd suggest Telegram, but I guess most people don't use it
2021-05-19 23:18:25 foobaz i suggest waiting a week or so to see how this plays out before making any decisions
2021-05-19 23:18:29 daesu I have to use slack for work. There isn't a word strong enough in the English language to describe how much I hate it.
2021-05-19 23:18:32 pepee it has some nice features to share stuff, I've seen a couple of groups that use it for support, discussion,etcand it seems to work
2021-05-19 23:18:57 pepee I hate these "new" web-IRC-frontend-like apps
2021-05-19 23:19:33 pepee using that much RAM to have a conversation is insane IMO
2021-05-19 23:19:34 abc_ How about matrix or libera.chat
2021-05-19 23:19:59 b0nn Yeah - I don't like slack - but it's an option that ppl should hear about
2021-05-19 23:20:20 b0nn At the end of the day, it's about where people are
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2021-05-19 23:38:33 pepee this is the other side of the story: https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss . the "new" freenode staff posted that link as a global notice a while ago
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2021-05-19 23:48:20 b0nn This is the most active this channel has been at this time of day in a whiles
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2021-05-20 00:09:34 seebs i've got accounts on several of these, but since i know some of the former freenode people who got suddenly removed, i have at the very least skepticism about the future of freenode.
2021-05-20 00:10:15 KirkMcDonald I just see it as a matter of continuity. The people running libera.chat are the people who've been running Freenode this whole time.
2021-05-20 00:10:53 KirkMcDonald They've transplanted en masse. It seems reasonably to assume that the expectations I've established here will continue there.
2021-05-20 00:10:58 KirkMcDonald reasonable*
2021-05-20 00:11:06 seebs yeah
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2021-05-20 00:32:55 seebs well, the amount of malware spam is going up, and now that i've been linked to andrew lee's side of things, i'm comfortable saying i don't think i want anything to do with him
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2021-05-20 03:50:11 a2800276 doesn't the possibility to "bridge" an irc channel on two servers/networks exist?
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2021-05-20 03:59:06 zutt a2800276: there are bots that can do that, yes
2021-05-20 03:59:30 kodah you can also use an irc client that will merge the chats
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2021-05-20 05:25:44 shunkica Can someone explain why looping over a slice using range is faster than using an index? For example https://play.golang.org/p/NH4R9xuECrs here case 1 is consistently fastest on my machine and case 3 slowest. (You cant run it on play.golang because UnixNano() doesnt work properly there)
2021-05-20 05:28:31 shunkica I thought that the range loop has to copy the value on every iteration? Since when I return a pointer to the value of a range loop, it is not the pointer to the value in the original slice.
2021-05-20 05:32:12 sztanpet https://golang.org/ref/spec#For_statements
2021-05-20 05:33:29 sztanpet also, look at the generated assembly, maybe it couldnt eliminate bounds checks
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2021-05-20 05:35:00 fizzie As for "has to copy the value", it has to assign the value to `s`, sure, but that's not expensive. It certainly doesn't involve copying the string contents. The string header is a pointer + an int, which you would need to access anyway eventually, to do the comparison.
2021-05-20 05:35:40 sztanpet also, testing has support for just these kinds of benchmarks which do a lot better job at giving you representative numbers
2021-05-20 05:35:52 sztanpet some statistics and running them more than once is involved
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2021-05-20 05:55:00 azta is there a way to take a string and make it a valid filename?
2021-05-20 05:55:14 azta I mean escaping /, ?, * etc
2021-05-20 05:55:29 azta I guessed there was something builtin but I can't find anything
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2021-05-20 05:56:04 azta (The filename is a persons name from a form, but I can't trust it)
2021-05-20 05:56:08 azta thanks
2021-05-20 05:58:12 fizzie There's built-in functions for encoding things for various uses in URLs, because those have a specification; for file names, it's a lot more vague, since the list of allowed characters depends on the filesystem, and there's no universally accepted encoding scheme. So I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a thing for that.
2021-05-20 05:59:40 sztanpet theres https://golang.org/pkg/io/fs/#ValidPath but i dont think that fits here
2021-05-20 06:00:20 azta thanks fizzie, I guess I'll substitute out all problematic characters
2021-05-20 06:01:11 azta sztanpet: that would return true for "Adam / Alice / Alica Smith" I guess because the / is valid in a filepath
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2021-05-20 06:01:45 azta but I need string -> (valid)filename, not (valid)filepath
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2021-05-20 06:14:03 fizzie I'd maybe just go with a lower-common-denominator thing, and replace all non-alphanumeric-ASCII bytes with _XX (as in, hex digits) or something.
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2021-05-20 06:14:27 b0nn yeah, I'd be worried about shell expansion attacks
2021-05-20 06:14:36 b0nn file;rm-rf/
2021-05-20 06:14:43 b0nn with spaces :)
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2021-05-20 06:15:23 azta re := strings.NewReplacer("/", ",", "\\", ",", ":", "-", "*", ".", "?", "+", "\"", "'", "<", "-", ">", "-", "|", "-")
2021-05-20 06:15:44 fizzie IMO, an allowlist is better than a denylist.
2021-05-20 06:15:49 azta this works of course but I'm sure I'm missing some
2021-05-20 06:15:55 azta you're right
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2021-05-20 06:16:44 fizzie Strictly speaking, "encoding/base64".URLEncoding would be a filename-safe encoding of a string. If you don't mind that it's unintelligible when encoded, and makes even regular strings longer. :)
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2021-05-20 06:17:42 b0nn and a length limit
2021-05-20 06:18:27 b0nn hrm, that replacer would allo file.jpg.not.a.trojan.png.exe
2021-05-20 06:19:07 * b0nn remembers the good old days when zillions of . in a filename hid that you were receiving an executable on windows
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2021-05-20 06:19:19 azta I'm recieving membership applications from a web form in json and I'm producing a shared directory of vcards. So I'd prefer "readable name.vcf"
2021-05-20 06:19:30 azta but yeah I see what you mean fizzie
2021-05-20 06:23:27 sztanpet the most user-friendly thing to do is to unicode normalize the name, strip accents/etc to basically convert it to ascii
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2021-05-20 06:26:21 fizzie A potential problem with being *so* user-friendly is that Mr. Blah and Mr. Bläh will have conflicting file names. That's why I like reversible encodings, like making one of those blah.vcf and the other bl_C3_A4h.vcf, even if it's a little less friendly.
2021-05-20 06:26:33 fizzie But that sort of thing might not be a concern for you.
2021-05-20 06:27:31 azta it does, the asociation I'm doing this for is spanish. Very few names don't have accents.
2021-05-20 06:28:22 azta I have a way to avoid collisions already because each name starts with a membership number
2021-05-20 06:28:43 azta (well, an allotment number, but it's unique) :)
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2021-05-20 06:30:03 sztanpet https://blog.golang.org/normalization and https://play.golang.org/p/CMR1CNKoCdO anyway
2021-05-20 06:30:48 fizzie Oh, if you can guarantee no collisions, then you can of course be a little more user-friendly.
2021-05-20 06:31:59 azta I think I will do that
2021-05-20 06:32:08 sztanpet just dont forget to strip all the other ancillary unicode things too
2021-05-20 06:32:15 azta and then an allowlist
2021-05-20 06:34:07 azta thanks a lot fizzie, sztanpet, b0nn.
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2021-05-20 06:38:29 sztanpet and theres https://github.com/mozillazg/go-unidecode if you want to be really proper and need transliteration for non-latin languages
2021-05-20 06:38:43 sztanpet but its getting a bit overkill now
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2021-05-20 09:45:00 pmcnabb How does the garbage collector deal with the situation where a variable's address on the stack is saved with the intent to be used after the called function returns? For example: https://play.golang.org/p/r9wz2ePAp9K
2021-05-20 09:46:06 +Aram that is not a variable on the stack.
2021-05-20 09:46:21 +Aram you can't control stack/heap allocation in Go.
2021-05-20 09:46:41 pmcnabb Ah, so the compiler figured it out and put it on the heap?
2021-05-20 09:46:54 +Aram values are put on the heap, if required.
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2021-05-20 09:47:57 pmcnabb Aram: thanks
2021-05-20 09:48:04 siXy It's worth mentioning also that the go spec makes exactly zero references to either the stack or the heap. So not only can you not influence where a var lives, you can't rely on observed behaviour being stable.
2021-05-20 09:48:16 +Aram anytime.
2021-05-20 09:48:19 +Aram that is true.
2021-05-20 09:48:29 +Aram in particular escape analysis always gets more sophisticated.
2021-05-20 09:49:22 pmcnabb siXy: thanks
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2021-05-20 13:04:25 sysadmin Remember Bitcoin in 2008??? Pi is a new digital currency developed by Stanford PhDs, To claim your piece of pi goto https://minepi.com and use "ilkde" as your invitation code. Get your piece of the pi now !
2021-05-20 13:05:07 pepee guess we will start getting more and more spam
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2021-05-20 13:10:32 pjs can everyone just move over to libera so I can close out one more freenode channel pls :)
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2021-05-20 13:11:12 icholy pjs: waiting to see how this plays out
2021-05-20 13:11:27 theckman pjs: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/46281 :)
2021-05-20 13:13:45 pjs theckman: nice :)
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2021-05-20 13:27:00 pjs there's quite a few ppl in libera channel. I think I'll move there. See you all on the other side :)
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2021-05-20 13:37:56 jemaclus he's gone! we can talk about pjs all we want now! mwahahahahahahahahaha
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2021-05-20 15:30:11 b0nn 23:48 < siXy> It's worth mentioning also that the go spec makes exactly zero references to either the stack or the heap. So not only can you not influence where a var lives, you can't rely on observed behaviour being stable.
2021-05-20 15:30:43 b0nn ^ I'm /sure/ that I've seen some code that forces something to go to the heap
2021-05-20 15:30:52 b0nn it might have been internal plumbing though
2021-05-20 15:31:35 b0nn when I do a search for "escape" on the go project I get too many hits - mostly in test files
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2021-05-20 15:35:49 b0nn hm, I might have misread the comment - all the stuff that forces values onto the heap does so without a call to an explicit function
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2021-05-20 15:36:58 b0nn https://github.com/golang/go/blob/e617b2b0dd14faddad82599f31f64bce3ff2ca2f/src/cmd/compile/internal/base/debug.go#L185
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2021-05-20 15:38:51 b0nn The use of side effects is common https://github.com/golang/go/blob/2ebe77a2fda1ee9ff6fd9a3e08933ad1ebaea039/src/runtime/lfstack_test.go#L31
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2021-05-20 15:48:53 TuxBlackEdo can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/BLmfdsFA
2021-05-20 15:49:35 b0nn wow, not seen anyone run `dep` in a whiles
2021-05-20 15:50:06 TuxBlackEdo ok how about https://pastebin.com/rAuXFgvh
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2021-05-20 15:52:04 b0nn what Go version are you on?
2021-05-20 15:52:42 TuxBlackEdo go version go1.10.4 linux/amd64
2021-05-20 15:52:49 TuxBlackEdo i am guessing this isn't the one i am supposed to be on?
2021-05-20 15:52:54 b0nn ok, your go is quite a bit out of date
2021-05-20 15:53:20 b0nn current version is 1.16
2021-05-20 15:53:51 b0nn That project uses modules to manage dependencies, and they weren't introduced into the Go build chain till about 1.15
2021-05-20 15:53:59 TuxBlackEdo gotcha
2021-05-20 15:54:01 TuxBlackEdo thank you
2021-05-20 15:54:05 b0nn np
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2021-05-20 15:59:10 TuxBlackEdo yup that fixed it
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2021-05-20 16:24:51 kinduff hello
2021-05-20 16:25:09 kinduff wondering why we should avoid packages like "utils", where I can store some
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2021-05-20 16:25:43 kinduff read that is preferred to do repetition, but i'm kinda leaning towards doing a utils package so i can reuse it across my program
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2021-05-20 16:28:39 b0nn so, the problem with a name like "utils" is that it doesn't convey anything to users (other devs)
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2021-05-20 16:28:47 b0nn it might as well be named "stuff"
2021-05-20 16:29:06 b0nn Dave Cheney has an excellent blog bpost on this, I'll just look it up
2021-05-20 16:29:35 b0nn https://dave.cheney.net/2019/01/08/avoid-package-names-like-base-util-or-common
2021-05-20 16:29:51 mrig There is a nice ardan labs post on vendoring to, which is related.
2021-05-20 16:31:02 mrig kinda related, it recommends a package of 'company packages' are put into some combined repo for cross project use,
2021-05-20 16:32:32 mrig well it is on project layout, just trying to find that.
2021-05-20 16:32:54 mrig ah here it is: https://www.ardanlabs.com/blog/2017/02/package-oriented-design.html
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2021-05-20 16:39:08 kinduff very interesting, gonna read both articles
2021-05-20 16:39:11 kinduff thank you very much
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2021-05-20 16:53:34 jemaclus Yeah, think of your kitchen. Everyone has that junk drawer that's full of just random crap, and you avoid looking in it as much as possible because it doesn't make sense. But it's better to say "this drawer is for the silverware, and this is for the pots and pans, and this is for the bakeware, and..." So as much as possible, it's best to create specific packages that mean specific things.
2021-05-20 16:53:57 jemaclus Packages are basically free, so if you have a package with one file that has two functions in it, that's totally fine, imo.
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2021-05-20 16:59:12 b0nn The two hardest things in CS are Cache invalidation, Naming things, and off by one errors
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2021-05-20 17:15:52 nacelle there is also dealing with peers who attempt to correct you by filling in your conversation in a way that you can't immediately argue with. :-)
2021-05-20 17:17:37 ndim b0nn: That makes four things.
2021-05-20 17:17:54 b0nn ndim: troubleshooting async :)
2021-05-20 17:18:18 nacelle scope creep!
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2021-05-20 22:23:14 quiznilo I'm getting an error message when I try to compile this...
2021-05-20 22:23:26 quiznilo "working directory is not part of a module"
2021-05-20 22:23:28 quiznilo ?
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2021-05-20 22:27:10 quiznilo this is modules, not sure I like
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2021-05-20 22:27:36 quiznilo I'M NOT WHITE
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2021-05-20 22:31:19 b0nn_ quiznilo: *why* are you saying that
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2021-05-20 22:31:52 quiznilo for the google types who won't answer me if they think I'm white
2021-05-20 22:32:33 b0nn_ !ops
2021-05-20 22:33:52 jemaclus lmao
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2021-05-20 23:05:18 quiznilo vim-go keeps zapping an important dependency, I'm pulling my hair out... these 'modules' are awful
2021-05-20 23:07:28 b0nn_ ok, I personally am *not* a fan of modules, but, because I am bored, let's see what the actual problem you have is
2021-05-20 23:08:32 b0nn_ write the import, close your editor (or even open another shell) and write `go mod tidy`, that *should* add the import dependency to your go.mod, which *should* stop goimports from complaining
2021-05-20 23:08:55 quiznilo "go run: cannot run non-main package"
2021-05-20 23:09:09 quiznilo oh
2021-05-20 23:09:10 b0nn_ if there is no go.mod in your project, then `go mod init`
2021-05-20 23:10:34 b0nn_ It's a little annoying that something isn't run to add the import to the go.mod when gopls, or goimports, orwhatever is complaining detects that it is missing
2021-05-20 23:11:37 quiznilo I'm thinking about: imports gotgbot github.com/PaulSonOfLars/gotgbot/v2
2021-05-20 23:12:02 A_D b0nn_: at the very least vscode can tidy from the UI
2021-05-20 23:13:01 b0nn_ A_D: I guess that,. in vims case, you could :!go mod tidy, which will shell out
2021-05-20 23:13:01 quiznilo vscode is nice, but I'm faster working with my vim modes
2021-05-20 23:13:18 quiznilo yess good, I'm remembering now
2021-05-20 23:13:32 b0nn_ I've not tried it as I am a tmuxer, so there is always at least 4 shells opn in my screen
2021-05-20 23:13:50 quiznilo that like up there worked btw `gotgbot github.com/PaulSonOfLars/gotgbot/v2`
2021-05-20 23:13:54 quiznilo *line
2021-05-20 23:14:08 A_D honestly the absolute largest issue I have with vscode that really impacts my workflow is the lack of a dedicated terminal button
2021-05-20 23:14:37 ente_ A_D: can't you open a terminal with a keybind (system wide)?
2021-05-20 23:14:58 b0nn_ doesn't it have a terminal thing at the bottom?
2021-05-20 23:14:58 quiznilo thanks for the help
2021-05-20 23:15:01 A_D ente_: I can open two seperate terminals with a keybind :P
2021-05-20 23:15:14 quiznilo yes, I can open a terminal, this is neovim
2021-05-20 23:15:18 ente_ A_D: but also just one?
2021-05-20 23:15:19 A_D b0nn_: it has a button that opens a pane that includes a terminal, but not a dedicated terminal button
2021-05-20 23:15:22 quiznilo I've never seen much of a reason to
2021-05-20 23:15:35 quiznilo make my own 'terminal button'
2021-05-20 23:15:40 A_D ente_: one button for drop down terminal another to open a new instance of ...whatever the kde terminal emulattor is
2021-05-20 23:15:44 A_D emulator*
2021-05-20 23:16:03 b0nn_ IME almost all editors have almost all the features that almost all the other editors have in some way, shape, or form
2021-05-20 23:16:11 ente_ A_D: ok? so you can open a terminal with a keybind? so what do you need a button in vscode for?
2021-05-20 23:16:18 b0nn_ It really comes down to how you like to interact with the app
2021-05-20 23:16:21 A_D ente_: positioning :P
2021-05-20 23:16:32 ente_ A_D: use a tiling window manager
2021-05-20 23:16:33 A_D blame old muscle memory and things
2021-05-20 23:16:42 A_D still wouldnt make it a part of the app
2021-05-20 23:16:59 ente_ A_D: yeah that's probably the best argument against changing your workflow
2021-05-20 23:17:00 A_D yes, its that silly of an annoyance
2021-05-20 23:17:24 ente_ A_D: but you really don't need vscode to open a terminal when you have a terminal emulator on your system
2021-05-20 23:17:36 b0nn_ A_D: that's my excuse too!
2021-05-20 23:17:45 A_D no not at all, its just nice that its a, a part of the app, and b, its in the right directory already
2021-05-20 23:17:51 A_D and for python its got my venv enabled already
2021-05-20 23:18:05 b0nn_ that and WRT vim I am literally learning new tricks (almost) daily
2021-05-20 23:18:09 ente_ A_D: ok, opening a terminal in the right directory is probably convenient
2021-05-20 23:18:24 A_D yeah
2021-05-20 23:18:40 A_D oh and that same pane has other things that are useful such as gopls/pylance output etc
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2021-05-20 23:18:51 A_D I really just want a button that selects the terminal tab by default
2021-05-20 23:19:05 ente_ can't you use the command prompt in vs code?
2021-05-20 23:19:13 ente_ or create a keybind or whatever?
2021-05-20 23:19:21 ente_ I never really used vscode
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2021-05-20 23:21:29 b0nn_ quiznilo: so your problem is fixed now?
2021-05-20 23:21:39 b0nn_ I got distracted by the editor discussion
2021-05-20 23:22:51 quiznilo it is, thanks sir
2021-05-20 23:23:11 b0nn_ awesome sauce
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2021-05-21 04:21:34 shunkica how do i read a here string in go? eg: program <<< "input"
2021-05-21 04:22:00 mkopriva hi all, does anyone know if there is a legitimate reason for not allowing method calls on a slice composite literal's element expression whose type was elided? e.g. why in the following example A is acceptable but B isn't? https://play.golang.org/p/1yul9o36ygT
2021-05-21 04:24:31 a2800276 HERE docs are shell constructs, Go doesn't have a comparable feature that allows you to define your own custom string delimiter.
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2021-05-21 04:25:25 a2800276 You can use backticks for "raw" strings that allow \n and such. If you're looking for multiline string literals?
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2021-05-21 04:27:29 shunkica I dont need to parse a here doc, just a here string
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2021-05-21 04:44:47 iivvoo do you need to read input or arguments?
2021-05-21 04:45:01 iivvoo input is a matter of reading from stdin
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2021-05-21 04:51:57 shunkica The program has an interactive mode, where it reads input until user writes q or exit, but if the here string is passed i want the program to parse the here string, execute some stuff, and then exit.
2021-05-21 04:52:42 shunkica for eg. like mysql. if you just run mysql it will read input untill you terminate, but if you pass a here string, eg: mysql <<< "SHOW DATABASES" it will execute this command and terminate the program
2021-05-21 04:55:35 OMGOMG put q or exit at the end of your herestring
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2021-05-21 04:57:12 TheDude2600 Hi everyone is it okay to return multiple errors from a function?
2021-05-21 04:57:58 TheDude2600 I have a function that can encounter errors that are somewhat recoverable so I was thinking should I return first error or all?
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2021-05-21 04:59:36 ente_ uhm
2021-05-21 04:59:54 ente_ if it's recoverable, can't you just compare the error returned to something and go on from there?
2021-05-21 05:00:57 albertito TheDude2600: you can definitely return a []error or a map[...]error
2021-05-21 05:01:14 TheDude2600 Is it a bad pattern?
2021-05-21 05:01:30 albertito TheDude2600: whether that's the best option really depends on your case. It's uncommon but not totally unreasonable in some situations, IMO
2021-05-21 05:01:42 TheDude2600 ok thanks
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2021-05-21 05:18:36 debugloop I have a protobuf question and don't know where else to ask it, but I'm using Go bindings, so... Can I have a field referencing another somehow? In this case, I have a source and a destination address, and I want a field to indicate the remote address (which might be either) without duplicating the data from the correct field
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2021-05-21 05:49:34 albertito debugloop: not as such. You can use an enum as a workaround
2021-05-21 05:50:10 iateadonut when i do `go doc big int` is see func cmp in the list. how do i get the docs for that func? `go doc big int cmp` and `go doc big.int cmp` do not work.
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2021-05-21 05:50:29 albertito debugloop: like define an enum AddrLocation { SRC, DST } and then have a field "AddrLocation remote"
2021-05-21 05:51:17 albertito debugloop: it's not the prettiest of things though (and the names can probably be better, I just picked them up without much thought)
2021-05-21 05:52:00 albertito iateadonut: go doc big int.Cmp
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2021-05-21 05:55:24 iateadonut thanks
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2021-05-21 06:01:38 debugloop albertito: thanks for the pointer in the right direction, I'll look into it :)
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2021-05-21 08:01:11 sec0x815 does someone use sqlx with postgresql and successfully does an Insert operation with an []string-type? I tried use the workaround here (from 2014), but the Value() method is not even called (https://github.com/jmoiron/sqlx/issues/106#issuecomment-65257273)
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2021-05-21 15:04:11 MrHall Hi! Do know some librery for swagger / open api 3.0 docs generation? I have only seen for open api 2.0
2021-05-21 15:04:35 MrHall *library
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2021-05-21 18:00:20 pinky ./prog.go:10:7: invalid character U+007E '~'
2021-05-21 18:00:38 pinky shouldn't ~ be valid? https://www.tutorialspoint.com/go/go_operators.htm
2021-05-21 18:01:02 pinky https://play.golang.org/p/l-H0gvFjwg6
2021-05-21 18:01:57 pinky forgot a : on line 8 but still
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2021-05-21 18:06:18 pinky maybe its ^?
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2021-05-21 18:06:26 pinky https://github.com/onelang/OneLang/issues/23
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2021-05-21 18:06:49 pinky trying to implement this in go: https://coderwall.com/p/327jiw/2-s-complement-in-javascript
2021-05-21 18:08:38 pinky ah, got it https://play.golang.org/p/-2ikH18d6_E
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2021-05-21 18:58:32 cispra I have multiple values, like a := 5, b := 2, c:= 7 et cetera, and want to find out the two values with the smallest difference, and the two with the biggest difference, ideally with the accompanying variable names
2021-05-21 18:59:09 cispra like "smallest distance is from h to y and is 59 ; largest distance is from f to u and is 193"
2021-05-21 18:59:49 cispra I could put my variables in a slice and iterate, but how would I access the variable names? I could use a map, but that seems messy as well
2021-05-21 19:00:15 cispra hints appreciated
2021-05-21 19:01:21 pinky anyone used this bitfield generator or aware of something thats used it i can look at?
2021-05-21 19:01:24 pinky https://github.com/golang/text/blob/v0.3.6/internal/gen/bitfield/bitfield.go#L109
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2021-05-21 19:07:05 b0nn_ cispra: the biggest difference is easy, store a copy of the min, and a copy of the max, updating either when you find a value bigger or smaller
2021-05-21 19:07:44 b0nn_ actually, strike that
2021-05-21 19:08:09 b0nn_ sort the group, then the biggest different is [0] and [len(group)-1]
2021-05-21 19:09:09 b0nn_ the smallest gap is going to take a full search of that sorted group (I think) - although you can bail when you find two adjacent items when the diff == 0
2021-05-21 19:10:31 cispra b0nn_: but corrent me if I'm wrong, that helps me find min and max yes, but I need the accompanying variable names as well
2021-05-21 19:10:37 cispra that's kind of my main issue
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2021-05-21 19:11:48 cispra I don't want "min is 5, max is 39", I want "min is from f to q and is 5; max is from q to m and is 39"
2021-05-21 19:11:55 b0nn_ The choice is, store them as a name/value pair in a sortable structure
2021-05-21 19:12:26 b0nn_ or put all the values into the sorted structure then determine which names have the values you determine to be the winners
2021-05-21 19:12:42 b0nn_ Personally I'd go with the former
2021-05-21 19:13:13 b0nn_ ids this a hackerrank?
2021-05-21 19:14:02 cispra what's ids?
2021-05-21 19:14:21 b0nn_ is
2021-05-21 19:14:38 cispra and I was looking at urban dictionary scratching my head :P
2021-05-21 19:14:47 cispra nah it isn't I had to look up hackerrank as well :D
2021-05-21 19:15:41 cispra b0nn_: thanks though will try to solve it using a map
2021-05-21 19:16:29 b0nn_ a map will require you to sort it every time you want some sort of metric
2021-05-21 19:16:45 b0nn_ because they're not sorted (in the way that you might expect)
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2021-05-21 19:17:08 cispra I know, want to try it for know and see how it does
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2021-05-21 19:22:20 pinky https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/text/internal/gen
2021-05-21 19:22:26 pinky is there a way to run these from go generate ?
2021-05-21 19:22:50 pinky like i guess you can: go get golang.org/x/tools/cmd/stringer
2021-05-21 19:22:56 pinky how are you supposed to use this bitfield one?
2021-05-21 19:25:05 cispra b0nn_: I should really work through TAoCP at some point in my life ... :D
2021-05-21 19:26:39 pinky oh text/internal isn't even exported
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2021-05-21 20:07:06 pinky so looking at this, but how would you set two bits at a time? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23192262/how-would-you-set-and-clear-a-single-bit-in-go
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2021-05-21 20:29:45 KirkMcDonald pinky: Just construct the appropriate mask.
2021-05-21 20:31:09 pinky ok i think that makes sense, trying to do it
2021-05-21 20:31:14 pinky Invalid operation: ctw.TxSequence & 0xff (cannot convert constant 0xff to type int8) :(
2021-05-21 20:31:26 KirkMcDonald int8 is signed.
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2021-05-21 20:31:32 KirkMcDonald 0xff is out of range.
2021-05-21 20:32:34 pinky ah thanks that works
2021-05-21 20:33:38 pinky Invalid operation: val |= (ctw.TxSequence & 0xff) << 0 (mismatched types int16 and uint8)
2021-05-21 20:33:47 pinky shouldn't this work? that doesn't convert it?
2021-05-21 20:34:21 KirkMcDonald What type is val?
2021-05-21 20:34:32 KirkMcDonald What type is ctw.TxSequence?
2021-05-21 20:34:51 pinky i guess i want uint16 too .. val us now a uint16 and ctw.TxSequence is a uint8
2021-05-21 20:35:26 KirkMcDonald Go does not implicitly convert between integer types. You'll need to do so explicitly.
2021-05-21 20:35:54 KirkMcDonald Integer literals are untyped, and so those *will* get implicitly assigned a type based on context.
2021-05-21 20:36:01 pinky would converting truncate too?
2021-05-21 20:36:06 KirkMcDonald Yes.
2021-05-21 20:36:13 pinky ah ok nice
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2021-05-21 20:37:02 pinky so i guess i have to do: val |= uint16(ctw.TxSequence) << 0
2021-05-21 20:37:30 pinky but is that going to blow away more bits than i want?
2021-05-21 20:37:35 KirkMcDonald Sure, though I am compelled to point out that `x << 0` is a no-op.
2021-05-21 20:38:09 pinky ah, i was trying to set the bit at position 0
2021-05-21 20:38:30 pinky i guess you just assign to it to do that?
2021-05-21 20:38:46 KirkMcDonald I mean that would just be `x |= 1`
2021-05-21 20:39:05 pinky well its two bits actually, that start at position 0
2021-05-21 20:39:22 KirkMcDonald So, the bottom two bits?
2021-05-21 20:39:41 pinky yeah, thats the first step i need to do
2021-05-21 20:39:48 KirkMcDonald `x |= 3`
2021-05-21 20:40:06 pinky then i need to set bits 2 and 3 with a certain value, then bits 4-6, then bit 8-12 .. etc
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2021-05-21 20:41:18 KirkMcDonald I think I'd need to see a more complete example to recommend the best way to do this, but it all sounds like pretty straightforward bitwise arithmetic.
2021-05-21 20:41:43 pinky it's very straightforward but i am super dumb when it comes to this kind of stuff
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2021-05-21 20:42:12 pinky https://play.golang.org/p/OoyXfRVXOkL
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2021-05-21 20:42:51 pinky starting by implementing this stuff on page 14 :/ https://simply-automated.com/documents/UpbDescriptionV1.2a.pdf
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2021-05-21 20:45:30 pinky val |= uint16(ctw.TxCount) & 0xff << 2
2021-05-21 20:45:42 pinky i guess that 0xff would be redundant because those bits would be 0 already
2021-05-21 20:45:45 KirkMcDonald The `& 0xff` probably isn't necessary.
2021-05-21 20:45:58 pinky ok cool, some of this is starting to make sense :)
2021-05-21 20:46:28 KirkMcDonald It would probably also make sense to settle on a single integer type for all this.
2021-05-21 20:46:58 KirkMcDonald uin16 across the board.
2021-05-21 20:47:01 KirkMcDonald uint16
2021-05-21 20:47:03 pinky ah well theres 16 bits in the final ControlWord so I guess use that? I just figured the struct fields should only be as big as they need to be
2021-05-21 20:47:06 pinky but i guess who cares
2021-05-21 20:47:27 KirkMcDonald I mean if you're doing arithmetic between all these values, it only makes sense.
2021-05-21 20:47:39 pinky yeah :)
2021-05-21 20:49:50 pinky Invalid operation: val |= ctw.RepRq << 13 (mismatched types uint16 and ControlWordRepRqF)
2021-05-21 20:49:55 pinky still need to convert these i guess :(
2021-05-21 20:50:58 KirkMcDonald True.
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2021-05-21 21:34:12 arahael so long and thanks for the fish!
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2021-05-21 22:00:35 pinky so dumb question but how could i print a uint16 as two uint8 ?
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2021-05-21 22:03:03 fizzie https://play.golang.org/p/-YkMaeqBJqG for example.
2021-05-21 22:04:15 pinky ah nice, thanks ..
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2021-05-22 01:31:11 b0nn Dammit, I just tried to outsmart myself
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2021-05-22 01:32:19 b0nn If quicksort is O(n log n) and insertion into a B tree is log n, I was thinking that taking a set of unsorted items and placing them into a B Tree would be O(n log n)
2021-05-22 01:33:07 lemmi and that would be correct
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2021-05-22 01:34:03 b0nn Oh, wait, I was thinking that this would incur a space cost of 2n, but I just realised that (at most) it would incur n+1, because the addition from one set would be offset by the removal from the other
2021-05-22 01:35:06 b0nn in fact it could be done in n space because all I would really be doing is changing the logical information associated with the dat, not the physical (although the metadata would be 2n
2021-05-22 01:36:43 cispra b0nn: did my problem earlier inspire you to do this? :D
2021-05-22 01:37:01 lemmi you are mixing time complexity with space complexity
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2021-05-22 01:40:04 lemmi they are related since space complexity often gives you a lower bound for time.
2021-05-22 01:41:21 b0nn cispra: I'm in the middle of writing a blog post on trees, well, I was, then I decided that I should start with a Big O notation article first, and that's when I realised that I could build a fast sort with a BST
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2021-05-22 01:42:42 b0nn lemmi: WRT space cost, all the (faster) sorts have a space cost of +1 I think, because tmp = a; a = b; b = tmp
2021-05-22 01:43:54 b0nn Big O can, and is, applied to both time and space complexities
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2021-05-22 01:55:56 b0nn ok, now, is there a big O notation applicable to batched operations?
2021-05-22 01:56:50 b0nn I mean, for example, if you hold batches pulled from a kafka firehose when writing to disk
2021-05-22 01:57:21 b0nn It must be a constant, right
2021-05-22 01:58:46 b0nn I mean 1 to n records written per batch is going to take the same time slice regardless of the number (as long as n is less than or equal to the amount of data that can be written to (say) one page
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2021-05-22 02:00:56 b0nn Hmm, it cannot be constant, because once you exceed the max size per batch then it's going to cost more time, so.. it's a n modulus batch size?
2021-05-22 02:01:34 KirkMcDonald Doesn't this amortize?
2021-05-22 02:04:38 b0nn I don't know, how do I figure that out
2021-05-22 02:07:02 KirkMcDonald If I understand the problem, you're talking about an operation in which insertions are "free" until some sort of buffer is full, and then it writes the whole buffer on the Nth insertion? Something along those lines?
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2021-05-22 02:10:48 b0nn so, I'm thinking about writing to disk, 1 item is going to cost the same as n items as long as the amount of data is less than (I think) a single page
2021-05-22 02:11:39 b0nn so, sizeof(n) in this has to be less than 1 page
2021-05-22 02:12:10 b0nn I think using n here is confusing people, because O will be on n of all the items
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2021-05-22 02:13:08 b0nn try a slightly more concrete thought, if I have 10000 items, to save to dicks, and it costs the same time for 1 or 2 or 3 items to be placed on disk, then the total amount of time is O(n/3)
2021-05-22 02:13:17 b0nn with 4 being the max batch size
2021-05-22 02:13:31 b0nn er, 3 ... typo
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2021-05-22 02:14:09 KirkMcDonald Sure. And you ignore constant factors, when talking about asymptotic complexity.
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2021-05-22 02:15:27 b0nn 16:00 < b0nn> Hmm, it cannot be constant, because once you exceed the
2021-05-22 02:15:27 b0nn max size per batch then it's going to cost more time,
2021-05-22 02:15:28 b0nn so.. it's a n modulus batch size?
2021-05-22 02:17:05 KirkMcDonald I would just say it is linear, then.
2021-05-22 02:17:12 KirkMcDonald O(n)
2021-05-22 02:17:31 KirkMcDonald Never mind that it's a step function.
2021-05-22 02:18:00 b0nn That sounds about right
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2021-05-22 02:18:51 KirkMcDonald And, likewise, I would say the cost of writing an individual item is O(1).
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2021-05-22 04:34:04 mrig I am having some fun with modules govim git and vim right now, anyone got any advice on a nice workflow?
2021-05-22 04:34:09 mrig Hello :)
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2021-05-22 04:35:30 mrig I have probably effected to many changes in one, will just keep playing until it becomes clear, sure that there is a best practice in here to work out.
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2021-05-22 06:58:11 souvik i too use govim sometimes, but prefer to use vim-go instead, since it's mature and has more features that I've got used to using mrig
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2021-05-22 07:05:10 mrig Just trying to discover where the line is between the functioning of one and the other, but in installing govim I've compiled a more recent version of vim, so it is really hard to get a fix on what changes where.
2021-05-22 07:16:13 mrig Have learned a little vimscript and quite I'm tempted to get involved with the govim project as it would be nice to be able to add functionality and I love the idea of being able to write vim plugins in go.
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2021-05-22 07:18:22 bookworm the cool kids use lua now for plugin dev :P
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2021-05-22 07:22:53 mrig would like to write an editor really if I'm honest.
2021-05-22 07:23:09 mrig but I do love vim, feel kinda attached to it.
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2021-05-22 07:24:13 mrig Just seem like a sane thing to do, to compile binaries for these things if we are using the day in day out who knows homany times in a day.
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2021-05-22 07:26:39 mrig The balloon-eval window does seem to work quite nicely across models, giving a warning when you are not in the actual code but in the vendor package.
2021-05-22 07:27:00 mrig vim has no scope and a lot of buffers :|
2021-05-22 07:28:37 mrig I'm not sure how vim-go would do here, as it was miss behaving when I moved my local packages out into repos. But am still very much exploring the workflow.
2021-05-22 07:29:04 mrig misbehaving rather, miss behaving was last night :|
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2021-05-22 07:30:37 mrig Ah I think it could be linting info that is on by default.
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2021-05-22 07:35:02 mrig If I'm honest, the appeal of using go withing vim, is actually using vim as a GUI, would end up with ORG mode for vim. But that is not really an ideal solution to my current requirements.
2021-05-22 07:35:07 mrig another C interface.
2021-05-22 07:36:06 mrig In all honesty that would be for the vim UI.
2021-05-22 07:36:13 mrig sensible keyboard use.
2021-05-22 07:41:01 hoodedfigure Hey, people are still here on freenode? xD
2021-05-22 07:41:25 mrig Seems as thought gopls is fighting with vims scope, is there a gopls channel?
2021-05-22 07:41:59 bookworm what do you mean?
2021-05-22 07:42:12 mrig hoodedfigure: I have split several pairs of trousers straddling this 'suited' net spit :|
2021-05-22 07:42:19 bookworm gopls is just the server, the thing that could mess up scopes is the lsp client
2021-05-22 07:42:46 mrig I was going to say ruined but that would have had iccy implications.
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2021-05-22 07:43:25 mrig bookworm: ah ok, so the api is perhaps being abused by the client then?
2021-05-22 07:44:04 bookworm what's the actual problem you have?
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2021-05-22 07:44:56 mrig I am looking for best workflow practices for code that is split across modules at the moment.
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2021-05-22 07:45:31 bookworm replace directives pretty much
2021-05-22 07:45:44 bookworm that should mean gopls pulls in the right things
2021-05-22 07:46:37 mrig The thing is that I am also using vendor, as it simplifies pushing the code to my host.
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2021-05-22 07:48:45 mrig But as this is the first time that i've separated out a package into a module and the development of both is still ongoing; Just trying it all out at the moment to get the best workflow.
2021-05-22 07:49:51 mrig half my modules are now on v0.0.n versions and the other half still on automated pesudo numbering, which is a bit of a mess.
2021-05-22 07:50:03 mrig but I'm not going to rename them just to reset them.
2021-05-22 07:51:12 mrig I've and error showing currently in a package that is wrong, scratching my head wondering where to look to source it.
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2021-05-22 07:53:05 mrig right that is apparently caused by having several versions of vim open.
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2021-05-22 07:55:06 mrig Interesting thing, I heard this cited as being an issue with language servers in a talk yesterday; I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment, just trying to understand it.
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2021-05-22 07:55:33 mrig As I am aware that these issues are that which gopls is trying to resolve.
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2021-05-22 07:56:53 mrig hoodedfigure: this does remind me somewhat of a scene from 'the life of Brian', splitters!
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2021-05-22 07:57:52 hoodedfigure mrig: want some otters' noses?
2021-05-22 07:57:57 mrig heh
2021-05-22 07:58:07 mrig Are they salted?
2021-05-22 07:58:40 hoodedfigure rather salty.. get it?
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2021-05-22 07:58:51 mrig Oh and I'll have half a bag of gravel please with tha.
2021-05-22 07:58:58 hoodedfigure xD
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2021-05-22 10:09:08 pinky Cannot convert expression of type '[2]uint8' to type '[]byte'
2021-05-22 10:09:10 pinky why?!
2021-05-22 10:09:21 fizzie You need to slice to get a slice.
2021-05-22 10:09:37 pinky oh like [:] ?
2021-05-22 10:09:38 fizzie If `v` is a [2]uint8, then v[:] will be a []uint8, aka a []byte.
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2021-05-22 10:09:48 fizzie Teah.
2021-05-22 10:09:52 fizzie s/T/Y/
2021-05-22 10:10:20 pinky ah thanks
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2021-05-22 10:56:00 scoopex can you recommend a go environment management tool? something compareabl like virtualenv for python?
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2021-05-22 11:50:44 nevivurn scoopex: huh, what problem does something like virtualenv solve for go that isn't handled by modules?
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2021-05-22 13:56:26 pinky []byte{0x14} .. that should be a ^T right?
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2021-05-22 13:57:47 rewt pinky: yes
2021-05-22 13:58:26 pinky ah ok thx, and a \r should be the same as a ^M ..
2021-05-22 13:58:35 pinky so i don't see what my problem is
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2021-05-22 14:00:13 rewt i'm guessing your problem is that something's not working as expected ;)
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2021-05-22 14:00:28 pinky right :)
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2021-05-22 14:02:14 pinky i am sending 10 bytes to Write() for a tcp connection .. ^T08402202ff22ff74\r
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2021-05-22 14:02:48 pinky not having the expected behavior, but i can use netcat, and i can do control-V + control-T, then paste 08402202ff22ff74, then control-v + enter
2021-05-22 14:02:51 pinky and that works
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2021-05-22 14:04:41 pinky when i say + above i mean, one key after the other
2021-05-22 14:07:00 Gnuman pinky, is it not sending what you want it to send, or are you not getting the response from the server that you expect?
2021-05-22 14:07:05 rewt how are you sending the bytes to Write()?
2021-05-22 14:07:24 pinky not getting the expected response, i guess i should listen on the remote end with netcat to see what its getting
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2021-05-22 14:08:09 pinky rewt: https://play.golang.org/p/awCkBhD98v2
2021-05-22 14:08:17 rewt or packet capture (tcpdump/wireshar) instead of netcat
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2021-05-22 14:08:23 rewt +k
2021-05-22 14:10:54 rewt ctrl-v + enter should be \x0a, not \x0d
2021-05-22 14:11:31 rewt \n
2021-05-22 14:11:47 pinky hm i thought its ^M
2021-05-22 14:11:51 pinky thats how vi prints it
2021-05-22 14:12:10 rewt or hmm... maybe \r\n
2021-05-22 14:12:29 pinky tried that too
2021-05-22 14:12:45 pinky but what i'm getting when looking with ngrep or tcpdump -X or nc -l does not look right ..
2021-05-22 14:13:01 pinky is there some encoding stuff i have to do?
2021-05-22 14:14:21 Gnuman \r == ^M == 0x0d; \n == ^J == 0x0a
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2021-05-22 14:14:42 pinky []byte{0xd} doesn't help either
2021-05-22 14:14:55 rewt what does the network capture show when it "works"?
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2021-05-22 14:17:04 Gnuman pinky, I believe when you press "enter" in netcat, it sends a \n, so you may actually be sending \r\n in your netcat test instead of \r
2021-05-22 14:17:23 pinky tried \r\n also :(
2021-05-22 14:17:59 Gnuman pinky, what is actually being sent, according to tcpdump? "does not look right" is pretty vague
2021-05-22 14:18:07 pinky # nc -v -l -p 3001 | hexdump -C
2021-05-22 14:18:07 pinky listening on [any] 3001 ...
2021-05-22 14:18:07 pinky connect to [127.0.0.1] from localhost [127.0.0.1] 50946
2021-05-22 14:18:07 pinky 00000000 14 30 38 34 30 32 32 30 32 66 66 32 32 66 66 37 |.08402202ff22ff7|
2021-05-22 14:18:07 pinky 00000010 34 0d 0a |4..|
2021-05-22 14:18:09 pinky 00000013
2021-05-22 14:18:16 pinky thats using a test shell script which uses netcat and works
2021-05-22 14:18:27 pinky thats me stopping the server process and running netcat in its place
2021-05-22 14:18:30 pinky now let me see what go is sending
2021-05-22 14:20:05 rewt that has \r\n on the end
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2021-05-22 14:23:34 pinky 00000000 14 08 40 22 02 ff 22 ff 74 0d 0a |..@"..".t..|
2021-05-22 14:23:35 pinky 0000000b
2021-05-22 14:23:44 pinky thats non working
2021-05-22 14:24:01 Gnuman lol I think I see the problem
2021-05-22 14:24:05 pinky so not nearly as many bytes?
2021-05-22 14:24:15 rewt you're sending different things
2021-05-22 14:24:17 Gnuman your ^T, 0xd, and 0xa are fine =)
2021-05-22 14:24:29 pinky oh its supposed to be in ascii?
2021-05-22 14:24:32 pinky lol
2021-05-22 14:24:48 Gnuman pinky, so uh.... in nc, you're sending decimal characters, and in go, you're sending hex digits
2021-05-22 14:24:55 pinky facepalm
2021-05-22 14:25:33 pinky so need to encode this to a byte array of characters i guess
2021-05-22 14:25:44 rewt no, it's just plain text
2021-05-22 14:25:53 pinky i construct it as a byte array
2021-05-22 14:26:00 rewt and that's the problem
2021-05-22 14:26:08 pinky well i need to, doing all sorts of binary math on things
2021-05-22 14:26:22 pinky but then i guess it has to be represented as ascii
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2021-05-22 14:28:30 Gnuman pinky, what about this? `fmt.Printf("%x %x\n", '8', '4')`
2021-05-22 14:29:03 Gnuman oh, I see... yeah, if you're doing math, you'll have to convert it to ascii. maybe use Itoa?
2021-05-22 14:29:42 pinky yeah it starts out as all bits, now i guess it needs to be characters :( like literal "FF" for 0xff
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2021-05-22 14:29:58 pinky but sprintf does it?
2021-05-22 14:30:11 pinky looking up Itoa
2021-05-22 14:30:48 Gnuman pinky, ah, so you just need to convert into a hexidecimal string
2021-05-22 14:30:56 pinky yeah seems like sprintf is the thing
2021-05-22 14:30:58 pinky let me try
2021-05-22 14:31:50 pinky or actually Fprintf since i'm writing it
2021-05-22 14:32:35 Gnuman I guess Itoa only does decimal (base 10). I misunderstood what you were trying. Fprintf should do the trick
2021-05-22 14:33:33 pinky thanks for the help .. this was dumb of me :)
2021-05-22 14:33:37 Gnuman pinky, also, check out encoding/hex in case it's more of what you need.
2021-05-22 14:33:42 Gnuman https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/hex/
2021-05-22 14:33:47 Gnuman pinky, yw =)
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2021-05-23 07:40:04 nooga hi, I'm trying to add a target to the Go compiler (a new POSIX compatible OS @ 386), looking for some documentation - does anybody know any literature or commits that I could learn from?
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2021-05-23 07:45:47 +Aram there's no documentation.
2021-05-23 07:45:47 +Aram there are commits to be inspired from, but they are old.
2021-05-23 07:45:47 +Aram when we were still using the C toolchain.
2021-05-23 07:45:47 +Aram (I authored several ports and targets.)
2021-05-23 07:45:47 +Aram what OS is this?
2021-05-23 07:46:10 +Aram if it's just a new OS, rather than a new ISA, and it's POSIX compatible, it's not too difficult.
2021-05-23 07:46:32 +Aram depends on how the OS does system calls.
2021-05-23 07:46:36 +Aram so what OS is this?
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2021-05-23 07:48:29 nooga Aram: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity
2021-05-23 07:49:51 +Aram does it use ELF?
2021-05-23 07:49:57 +Aram how does it do system calls?
2021-05-23 07:49:57 nooga it does
2021-05-23 07:52:01 +Aram anyway, the code has changed too much, I don't particularly recommend looking at previous commits.
2021-05-23 07:52:04 +Aram happy to answer any questions (if I have the time).
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2021-05-23 07:52:24 +Aram many unix-like systems don't actually have a POSIX kernel interface.
2021-05-23 07:52:31 +Aram they only expose POSIX in libc.
2021-05-23 07:52:57 +Aram if that's the case, and libcis dynamically linked, that's the easiest way.
2021-05-23 07:55:19 nooga it has its own libc and the syscall interface uses int 0x82
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2021-05-23 07:55:26 +Aram if it's statically linked, you are out of luck, and you need to implement the non-POSIX kernel interface.
2021-05-23 07:57:33 nooga that's not out of question tbh but I'm still browsing Go src tring to figure out where to start with this, I think the first step would be to add new GOOS value and make it produce ELFs that load on Serenity
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2021-05-23 08:00:39 +Aram yes, you need to add a new GOOS, and you need to add support for serenityos in the linker.
2021-05-23 08:07:34 +Aram but that's just busywork.
2021-05-23 08:07:34 +Aram first you need to come up with a plan about how the Go runtime will interract with SerenityOS.
2021-05-23 08:07:37 +Aram which means looking at the syscall ABI.
2021-05-23 08:07:40 +Aram basically you need to make the decision on whether to use libc or not very early. this is the most fundamental decision, really.
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2021-05-23 08:15:00 nooga so looks like libc is dynamically linked and not super exotic
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2021-05-23 08:15:50 nooga seems like it's worth going down the libc route
2021-05-23 08:16:20 +Aram maybe.
2021-05-23 08:16:20 +Aram if the syscall interface is POSIX, there is no point in going through libc.
2021-05-23 08:16:56 +Aram though that is unlikely.
2021-05-23 08:16:56 +Aram of all unix-like systems that we support, only Linux has a POSIX-like syscall interface (mostly).
2021-05-23 08:20:56 nooga syscalls on Serenity go through LibSystem which exposes syscall() function to invoke arbitrary system calls, they can have up to 3 args so some of them will pass a struct to the kernel, they return negative values (e.g. -ENOENT) for errors
2021-05-23 08:21:22 nooga syscall numbers most definitely don't match Linux's though
2021-05-23 08:21:48 nooga but it's still reasonably close to what you'd see on other *nixes, no NtCreateFile stuff ;)
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2021-05-23 08:23:26 +Aram I mean the native syscall interface.
2021-05-23 08:23:26 +Aram if it goes through some LibSystem, that is not the native syscall interface, and is of no consequence to Go.
2021-05-23 08:23:29 +Aram the fact that LibSystem exists at all,makes me think the naitve syscall interface is nothing like POSIX.
2021-05-23 08:23:50 nooga so, if I understand you correctly, I'm going to either use Serenity libc or write a bunch of code that calls LibSystem's syscall() from Go and glue it to the API?
2021-05-23 08:24:20 +Aram no
2021-05-23 08:24:42 +Aram you either have to use libc, or do syscalls yourself.
2021-05-23 08:25:00 +Aram in no case should you use LibSystem
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2021-05-23 08:25:17 +Aram perhaps the native syscall interface is unstable, or undocumented.
2021-05-23 08:25:18 +Aram you just check for that.
2021-05-23 08:25:18 +Aram in that case, you have to use libc.
2021-05-23 08:25:34 nooga here's how syscalls are invoked: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Kernel/API/Syscall.h and here's how they're handled on the kernel side https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Kernel/Syscall.cpp
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2021-05-23 08:26:11 +Aram yeah, you need to do that from Go (if you go through that route).
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2021-05-23 08:27:04 nooga oh yes, right, the syscall interface is totally unstable
2021-05-23 08:27:18 nooga going through the libc would be preferable just for this reason
2021-05-23 08:27:21 +Aram then you can't use that.
2021-05-23 08:27:30 nooga good call
2021-05-23 08:27:41 +Aram which is unfortunate, because the syscall API looks more unix-like that I expected
2021-05-23 08:29:57 +Aram if you use libc, and libc is dynamically linked, you should just follow what the solaris and aix ports do, because they are ELF and use libc with a POSIX interface.
2021-05-23 08:30:14 +Aram the biggest differences will be with stuff like netpoll.
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2021-05-23 08:47:55 kinduff does anyone know a library to convert string currency to an integer?
2021-05-23 08:48:11 kinduff i saw the pkg accounting, and lots of options for formating an int into currency format
2021-05-23 08:48:23 kinduff but nothing the other way, for example $12.23 => 12.23 int
2021-05-23 08:48:33 kinduff but that actually supports all currencies
2021-05-23 08:48:58 kinduff "49,64€" => 49.64
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2021-05-23 08:49:54 kinduff anwering myself: no pkg needed, just regex
2021-05-23 08:52:30 nooga Aram: I took a better look at what various ports do and it seems like netbsd is using that other non-libc way? Doesn't look terribly different to what would be needed for Serenity. I'm having problems figuring out what's where in the codebase though. Seems like OS specific stuff is pretty scattered across many packages
2021-05-23 08:53:21 +Aram the only unix targets using libc are solaris, aix, and darwin.
2021-05-23 08:53:29 +Aram netbsd has a stable kernel interface.
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2021-05-23 08:54:58 nooga right
2021-05-23 08:55:01 +Aram the systems that are using libc, are doing so because it's the only stable kernel interface.
2021-05-23 08:55:04 +Aram the fact that libc is POSIX, is just an accident really (that can help with other ports).
2021-05-23 08:55:24 nooga you also mentioned the linker, where should I look?
2021-05-23 08:55:36 +Aram the original system like that was solaris (I did the port).
2021-05-23 08:55:36 +Aram aix came later, and darwin was converted to do the same just because the code was portable.
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2021-05-23 08:55:52 +Aram mostly in cmd/ld
2021-05-23 08:56:11 +Aram cmd/link rather
2021-05-23 08:56:34 +Aram src/cmd/link/internal/ld/
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2021-05-23 08:58:00 dntreou Hello everyone, I am wondering if its possible to use structs and interfaces in ordcer to determine the type of data I want ot use as an input argument
2021-05-23 08:58:06 dntreou is there a name for suuch thing
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2021-05-23 09:08:26 mrig dntreou: you might like to look up reflection.
2021-05-23 09:08:49 mrig I am not certain whether this is what you are looking for, but it does sound like it.
2021-05-23 09:09:10 mrig Hello
2021-05-23 09:09:46 mrig I am having a little difficulty in understanding the error messages received when running go get -u on updated packages.
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2021-05-23 09:10:04 mrig I have received this error message: ../../../pkg/mod/github.com/8i8/session@v0.0.0-20210523094049-132456081c3d/ram/ram.go:78:3: non-bool "github.com/8i8/log".Level("github.com/8i8/log".DEBUG) (type "github.com/8i8/log".Level) used as if condition
2021-05-23 09:10:37 mrig but have updated the use of the log package withing the package that I am currently updating to the most recent version.
2021-05-23 09:11:28 mrig log.Level is now a type and log.Is replaces the function in the control flow that is expecting a boolean.
2021-05-23 09:11:51 mrig oh perhaps in need to clear the mod cache.
2021-05-23 09:13:40 mrig Ah that seems to have resolved the issue.
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2021-05-23 09:38:30 shibumi This is not really go related, but do you have any idea how to map percent numbers on each other. For example:
2021-05-23 09:38:34 shibumi · Clouds=0% => Solar Farm outputs at 100% Capacity
2021-05-23 09:38:36 shibumi · Clouds=100% => Solar Farm outputs at 10% Capacity
2021-05-23 09:38:46 shibumi Is this a linear regression?
2021-05-23 09:39:09 shibumi Or what type of mapping can I use here to calculate the energy output via the clouds percentage
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2021-05-23 09:41:56 A_D output is inversely proportional to clouds to a minimum of 10%
2021-05-23 09:43:14 shibumi A_D: is there a name for that calculation? That i could google or how do I tackle this?
2021-05-23 09:44:14 A_D output = max(10, 100-cloudsPercent)
2021-05-23 09:44:18 A_D would probably work
2021-05-23 09:44:23 A_D that isn't go source, midn
2021-05-23 09:44:26 A_D mind*
2021-05-23 09:44:31 shibumi Mh thanks
2021-05-23 09:44:43 shibumi Yes, i know. I know what I am looking for now
2021-05-23 09:44:49 A_D but this is assuming your panels have a linear number
2021-05-23 09:44:51 mrig shibumi: you might like to look up linear function.
2021-05-23 09:45:11 mrig assuming that it is linear, you would need more data to determine that :)
2021-05-23 09:45:23 shibumi I searched for inversily proportional at google.
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2021-05-23 09:46:43 mrig shibumi: if you can get your solar panels to drop from 100% when there is 90% cloud cover, you could be onto something big!
2021-05-23 09:48:30 shibumi It's a university homework. (Not mine, though). I just got asked if i have a solution and I said "no", but i still wanted to know how to tackle this, because I started thinking about this afterwards.
2021-05-23 09:48:41 shibumi I think it can be assumed that the function is linear
2021-05-23 09:48:48 shibumi But i am happy with your answers already.
2021-05-23 09:49:23 mrig functions are pretty cool things.
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2021-05-23 09:50:58 mrig shibumi: how would altering the sample rate of your data effect the nature of the question?
2021-05-23 09:52:30 mrig a phase shift of 180 degrees for example.
2021-05-23 09:52:43 +Aram why would you assume a linear relationship.
2021-05-23 09:53:06 mrig Yes that is quite an assumption to make.
2021-05-23 09:53:13 +Aram there simply isn't enough data in the problem as stated, but the relationship is anything but linear.
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2021-05-23 09:53:59 +Aram a small cloud over the sun has a much more profound effect than 70% cloud cover with an unobstructed sun.
2021-05-23 09:54:13 +Aram and clouds are very different, 100% cloud cover could mean very different things.
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2021-05-23 09:55:01 dntreou mrig: thank you I am looking in to that now
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2021-05-23 09:58:01 mrig The angle of incidence of the suns rays to the atmosphere does have a massive effect on penetration of varying wavelengths; So what range of wavelengths effect the panels, and at what phase of the cycle would be interesting to measure and would soon put a halt to the notion of linearity. But you have to start somewhere!
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2021-05-23 10:04:51 dntreou mrig: Is reflect something I should be concerned about in a security level, is it bad practice etc?
2021-05-23 10:06:50 mrig It depends entirely upon the situation, but yes it is an extremely powerful device that should not be used to readily. Only if there is no other way.
2021-05-23 10:07:59 mrig If I'm not mistaken it is used as a technique in the voyager missions to make corrections in the runtime whilst it is running; Obviously in this situation there is no other choice.
2021-05-23 10:08:45 mrig dntreou: if it is in setup code, the gob package does this, then it is pretty safe.
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2021-05-23 10:12:30 dntreou mrig: gotcha
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2021-05-23 10:18:13 A_D reflect is a powerful tool that is easy to misuse
2021-05-23 10:18:21 A_D its also incredibly slow for the most part
2021-05-23 10:18:37 A_D sometimes you need it, eg the gob and json libraries use it extensively to construct objects
2021-05-23 10:18:54 A_D if something can be done without reflect, it probably should because it'll be less brittle
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2021-05-23 10:44:52 mrig Oh the use of an options self referential function makes a lot more sense now with inter related modules. :)
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2021-05-23 11:28:23 shibumi Aram: you are absolutely correct with your assumptions, but this was a university assignment and the task just stated that the relationship of the data is linear (for making things easy, because no extra libraries were allowed)
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2021-05-23 12:21:41 impermanence does anybody use the module "gen"? I'm reading an article called "5 useful golang modules for 2021" and it's the first. But there's already an issue and the code is quite old. So I'm wondering if the article is just complete bs lol.
2021-05-23 12:22:05 impermanence the module itself has 1000+ gh starts :-|
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2021-05-23 13:58:35 nooga thanks Aram! I've been able to start porting
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2021-05-23 14:06:17 +Aram nooga: good luck.
2021-05-23 14:06:23 +Aram hit me any time with questions.
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2021-05-23 14:23:48 hoodedfigure Hey, friends!
2021-05-23 14:23:48 hoodedfigure Is there a way to send an SQL database into passive mode or so?
2021-05-23 14:23:48 hoodedfigure I save like 400000 records and it seems to reindex every time so that it takes ages. I don't know if this problem is SQLite-specific.
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2021-05-23 14:27:27 KirkMcDonald I mean, this seems like more of a SQLite question than a Go question. But perhaps create the index only after building the table? I admit, I don't know a great deal about sqlite indexes; I don't even know if it uses a hash or a btree or what.
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2021-05-23 14:31:47 hoodedfigure KirkMcDonald: you are probably right that I should ask elsewhere. But I'm using golang "database/sql", that is why I'm asking in this room.
2021-05-23 14:33:02 KirkMcDonald Sure, but I expect this behavior is going to depend on sqlite alone, and you'd get the same regardless of the interface.
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2021-05-23 14:47:04 hoodedfigure bye, KirkMcDonald
2021-05-23 14:47:18 hoodedfigure Thanks for the chat xD
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2021-05-23 15:45:46 a2800276 are you doing individual inserts? Place them in a transaction and indxing should only happen after the final commit.
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2021-05-23 16:36:18 velix Hmm. This doesn't build static binaries here: `-ldflags='-extldflags=-static'` - is this only possible when using `CGO_ENABLED=0` ?
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2021-05-23 20:11:17 impermanence anybody use go-kit?
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2021-05-24 18:38:23 -- Topic for #go-nuts is "we are also on irc.libera.chat, if freenode dies | golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?"
2021-05-24 18:38:23 -- Topic set by Aram (~aram@9front.army) on Wed, 19 May 2021 13:34:12
2021-05-24 18:38:23 -- Channel #go-nuts: 506 nicks (0 ops, 2 voices, 504 normals)
2021-05-24 18:38:23 -- PvNotice(ChanServ): Please follow the Go Community Code of Conduct when chatting here. See https://golang.org/conduct
2021-05-24 18:38:29 -- Channel created on Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:22:37
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2021-05-24 18:42:15 -- Topic for #go-nuts is "we are also on irc.libera.chat, if freenode dies | golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?"
2021-05-24 18:42:15 -- Topic set by Aram (~aram@9front.army) on Wed, 19 May 2021 13:34:12
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2021-05-24 20:11:00 RipFreenode[llf] SUPPORT LLF (LET'S LEAVE FREENODE) BY ONLY WRITING IN CAPSLOCK FROM NOW. ADD [llf] TO YOUR NICK!
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2021-05-24 20:22:04 cispra nothing makes me want to stay more than crap like from RipFreenode[llf]
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2021-05-25 02:09:51 mnr200 How do you use sql transaction where you need to call different method ?
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2021-05-25 02:51:27 b0nn mnr200: Have you got some code you can share?
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2021-05-25 02:52:13 b0nn Generally, though, a BEGIN is issued, then you do stuff™then you issue a COMMIT, and the DB understands that the transaction began and ended
2021-05-25 02:52:38 iateadonut b0nn, do you have ™ mapped to a key?
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2021-05-25 03:20:40 mnr200 b0nn, consider in your handler you call a method createMember() which creates news member in members table and then you need to call createHouse() method which creates news in houses table, how do you manage transaction here?
2021-05-25 03:21:25 mnr200 I'm considering putting that *sql.Tx in server struct which also holds would that be a bad idea?
2021-05-25 03:25:01 b0nn so, if I am reading this right - your handler would issue the BEGIN, then the call to createMember() would have it do it's thang, then the call to createHouse() would have it do its thing, then,assuming no error from both of those calls, the handler would call "COMMIT"
2021-05-25 03:25:49 b0nn Assuming that you need both createMember and createHouse to be in the same transaction
2021-05-25 03:26:23 b0nn you would need to pass to both the pointer to the connection that the transaction is in though
2021-05-25 03:26:38 mnr200 Yes you got it right, I'm also thinking the same way and also need to pass that tx to that db struct
2021-05-25 03:26:50 mnr200 Yeah right
2021-05-25 03:27:12 mnr200 I was just confused and dindt find a good example
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2021-05-25 03:28:25 b0nn I would be taking a lot of care around error handling to ensure that the transaction was ended if things went south, because of the (high) risk of it being left hanging
2021-05-25 03:29:15 mnr200 Yeah concerned about the error handling
2021-05-25 03:31:43 b0nn You'll have to check if there's a timeout on the transaction
2021-05-25 03:33:11 mnr200 oh okay
2021-05-25 03:34:00 mnr200 b0nn, so I'm following the code structure from the Ben Johnson's article and how would you maintain the transaction with that pattern?
2021-05-25 03:35:16 mnr200 I'm talking about this one https://medium.com/@benbjohnson/standard-package-layout-7cdbc8391fc1
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2021-05-25 03:36:26 b0nn ok, the fun there is the package boundary, that is, the transaction BEGIN COMMIT and sql is in a DB package, and the handler is in the handler package, and the other functions are in buisness logic packages
2021-05-25 03:37:55 mnr200 I'm not sure I got what you mean exactly
2021-05-25 03:38:08 b0nn but, your BL is an orchestrator, that is, your handler calls the orchestration method, it tells the DB that it's going to start a transaction, so it asks the DB package to initiate, and return a pointer to the Tx
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2021-05-25 03:38:26 b0nn oh, ok, this is going to take a bit of work
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2021-05-25 03:40:23 b0nn The hexagonal (or ports and adaptors) architecture is what his idea is a crude form of
2021-05-25 03:41:14 b0nn The idea with hex arch is that you have a package that is the central business logic/brains/orchestrator
2021-05-25 03:41:51 b0nn It should not depend on *any* services
2021-05-25 03:42:28 b0nn Instead it defines interfaces that services can satisfy
2021-05-25 03:44:29 b0nn so, the bl is called by the handler, and the BL says DB interface initiate a transaction, Member interface create a member, House interface create a house, pass them to me and I will pass them to the DB to create
2021-05-25 03:44:41 b0nn and then DB interface end transaction
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2021-05-25 03:45:20 b0nn Hmm, that createMember and create House is going to be tricky
2021-05-25 03:45:53 mnr200 hmm starting make sense
2021-05-25 03:46:09 b0nn why is member and house coupled?
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2021-05-25 03:46:25 b0nn why do they both need to be created at the same time in the same transaction?
2021-05-25 03:47:08 mnr200 It's in the same handler and related to table in one to one manner, it's sort of requirement
2021-05-25 03:48:08 b0nn Yeah, I'm trying to imagine them as separate services, but I think that the coupling suggests that they are a single service
2021-05-25 03:48:29 mnr200 Yea they are in the same service
2021-05-25 03:49:06 b0nn Are they ever created separately?
2021-05-25 03:50:09 mnr200 yes they are created separately with different methods
2021-05-25 03:50:43 mnr200 I'm sorry they are not in the same service
2021-05-25 03:50:46 b0nn yeah I was meaning, are there houses without members and members without houses
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2021-05-25 03:51:51 mnr200 No, it's not
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2021-05-25 03:52:45 b0nn ok, so they're always created together
2021-05-25 03:52:51 b0nn that makes life a hang of a lot easier
2021-05-25 03:53:09 b0nn because (effectively) they're one thing
2021-05-25 03:53:38 b0nn er, unless there are members with multiple houses, and/or houses with multiple members
2021-05-25 03:54:30 mnr200 You mean moving them into a same service?
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2021-05-25 03:55:52 mnr200 Since they are always excuted together?
2021-05-25 03:56:43 b0nn well, yeah, they're one thing in the data model
2021-05-25 03:57:01 b0nn As far as I can tell anyways
2021-05-25 03:57:35 mnr200 right, it's basically one thing
2021-05-25 03:59:13 mnr200 So, I would put a tx in the srevice struct and later call it?
2021-05-25 03:59:29 mnr200 I mean it's the simplest form
2021-05-25 03:59:44 b0nn do the create methods talk to the DB, or do they collate data from the handler
2021-05-25 04:00:39 b0nn like I have this feeling that the handler is collecting a ton of data, and some of that you give to the create member handler, that runs off and creates a db entry, then you give some other data to the create house thing which runs off to the db and creates an entry
2021-05-25 04:01:04 b0nn I'm trying to avvoid passing a tx about, because it will couple your code to a SQL DB
2021-05-25 04:01:15 b0nn but I think that, for now, it's the easiest
2021-05-25 04:02:11 mnr200 I'm not talking about passing the tx from the handler though, just passing it when it gets called I think that what you meant in the beginning
2021-05-25 04:03:18 b0nn Yeah - so in my head things are a bit mixed up
2021-05-25 04:03:56 b0nn I have a BL that's going to member and house services, but I'm trying to think how they taslk to the DB - directly, or via the BL
2021-05-25 04:04:23 b0nn or - should the house and member code be a part of the BL
2021-05-25 04:04:31 b0nn because *that* would be easier
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2021-05-25 04:05:49 mnr200 You mean BL is the handler here, right?
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2021-05-25 04:09:42 b0nn it could be, yeah
2021-05-25 04:10:06 b0nn although some people would say the handler is the controller logic, and it calls the bl
2021-05-25 04:10:42 mnr200 I'm thinking of beginning the transaction in the createMember method and passing it to the houseService and call createHouse method
2021-05-25 04:11:13 mnr200 Is that would be good approach?
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2021-05-25 04:13:03 b0nn because they're so tightly coupled, I don't see why not
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2021-05-25 04:13:45 b0nn but, if they were to be split, say.. houses could be created independently, so that - I dunno- a member could have multiple houses, you will have an issue
2021-05-25 04:14:14 b0nn which would lead to an orchestrator being the better place to create the transaction
2021-05-25 04:14:43 b0nn then - at a later date- you can say to the orchestrator, "create a dozen houses" and there's not much rejigging involved
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2021-05-25 04:15:16 mnr200 so, I'm little confused the orchetrator mthod, like how that would be in code. Do you have any example like that?
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2021-05-25 04:15:18 b0nn so, it depends how confident you are that they will never be split
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2021-05-25 04:15:52 b0nn and orchestrator is just a "call this function, handle the error, call this function, handle the error, done"
2021-05-25 04:16:10 b0nn it's just the "boss"
2021-05-25 04:16:10 mnr200 Right not it would work, not sure what happens in future lol
2021-05-25 04:16:13 mnr200 oh okay
2021-05-25 04:16:46 mnr200 And that goes to a different pacakge, right?
2021-05-25 04:16:54 b0nn my orchestraors are often just glue
2021-05-25 04:17:35 b0nn yeah - diff package
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2021-05-25 04:17:48 mnr200 Or it could work in the db package?
2021-05-25 04:17:50 b0nn be mindful of the package boundaries though
2021-05-25 04:17:51 mnr200 oh okay
2021-05-25 04:18:25 b0nn The hard part about package boundaries is knowing what you can and cannot pass across them
2021-05-25 04:18:54 mnr200 I'm pretty confused about that right now
2021-05-25 04:19:14 b0nn I mean, you define what is transferred, but - how you do that can create dependencies, or ugliness and shims
2021-05-25 04:19:46 b0nn hmm I'm trying to think what's a good thing to read/watch to help you out
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2021-05-25 04:21:16 mnr200 Sure, that would be really helpful
2021-05-25 04:21:49 b0nn A lot of this is SOLID, Data transfer objects, and hexagonal architecture
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2021-05-25 04:22:14 b0nn Uncle Bob has a nice video on SOLID that primes you well
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2021-05-25 04:25:35 mnr200 okay great, that's give me start to research on that, I wasn't sure what design pattern actually it is, although I like the isolation of code
2021-05-25 04:25:54 b0nn This might be worth starting with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ZqNQdJPjc
2021-05-25 04:26:03 mnr200 So it's a hexagonal architecture
2021-05-25 04:27:00 mnr200 okay will watch that, I have a very basic understanding on SOLID principle though from Dave Chaney's video
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2021-05-25 04:27:49 mnr200 Thanks for sharing it an giving me the guidelines
2021-05-25 04:27:54 b0nn the biggest principle to be awre of is Dependency reversal
2021-05-25 04:28:02 b0nn which is what interfaces afford you
2021-05-25 04:28:17 b0nn and they make it *so* easy to avoid dependency in your BL
2021-05-25 04:30:03 mnr200 okay will keep that in mind
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2021-05-25 04:38:50 mnr200 After getting these thing working I'm gonna write about in details with pattern :)
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2021-05-25 06:24:01 mort Hey, so I have some dependencies on a private repository which need to use SSH instead of HTTPS. So far, I have used the recommended approach of using ~/.gitconfig to rewrite HTTPS URLs to SSH for the particular host. However, I'm in a situation now where I really don't want to modify the global git config.
2021-05-25 06:24:07 mort Is there a way to do this locally instead?
2021-05-25 06:24:22 mort For some reason, go doesn't seem to pick up the same setting in .git/config
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2021-05-25 07:43:08 shunkica I need to replace multiple elements in the middle of a slice with a single element and this is what I came up with: https://play.golang.org/p/uNMr4XrsXBW any suggestions?
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2021-05-25 07:46:09 sztanpet you can elide the second append
2021-05-25 07:46:38 sztanpet oh, no, you cant
2021-05-25 07:47:57 sztanpet also, https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/SliceTricks#filter-in-place
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2021-05-25 08:00:10 shunkica Wouldn't the append inside append be better than filter in this case? https://play.golang.org/p/6zKP3g43nob
2021-05-25 08:01:14 sztanpet define better
2021-05-25 08:02:01 shunkica faster or more resource efficient
2021-05-25 08:02:05 sztanpet if you are optimizing for performance, write benchmarks https://dave.cheney.net/2013/06/30/how-to-write-benchmarks-in-go
2021-05-25 08:02:58 sztanpet i think the loop is clearer and i would be surprised to see this being a bottleneck but maybe
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2021-05-25 08:04:01 sztanpet also, the filter one doesnt allocate a new slice so less gc pressure
2021-05-25 08:04:36 sztanpet but maybe the other one doesnt either, i dont know whether the compiler can optimize it away or not
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2021-05-25 08:19:26 shunkica Interesting. If the slice has more then 4000 elements then ReplaceAppend is faster, if it is under 4000 elements then ReplaceFilter is faster.
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2021-05-25 08:20:40 shunkica But ReplaceFilter is 2x slower with 10.000 elements
2021-05-25 08:23:04 shunkica Actually I did the benchmark wrong because I made a new slice every time in the loop. Now that I moved it outside of the loop ReplaceApend is 10x faster
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2021-05-25 11:22:38 gpeskens Is there a way I can limit interface to certain types?
2021-05-25 11:22:58 gpeskens *interface{}
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2021-05-25 11:28:01 sztanpet gpeskens https://tour.golang.org/methods/15
2021-05-25 11:28:09 sztanpet also look at the next chapter, type switches
2021-05-25 11:28:37 gpeskens Yes I know those, I meant where it's taken as an argument, or when part of a struct.
2021-05-25 11:28:52 gpeskens (to take advantage of golangs compile time typing)
2021-05-25 11:29:37 sztanpet you explicitly opt out of said typing by using interface{}
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2021-05-25 11:44:14 whoami gpeskens: i don't understand what is being asked
2021-05-25 11:44:20 whoami you could define an interface and accept that instead of interface{}
2021-05-25 11:44:56 whoami https://tour.golang.org/methods/9
2021-05-25 11:46:09 icholy gpeskens: there is no way to do what you're asking for
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2021-05-25 11:47:53 icholy gpeskens: however, it may be possible in the future. The generics proposal is extending interfaces with type lists. If these were allowed to be used outside of type parameter contraints, it could be used as a sum-type (which is what you're asking for).
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2021-05-25 13:12:58 eric_hill I have a need to generate a dozen or so restful client functions and was wondering if there was any off the shelf codegen that people here would recommend.
2021-05-25 13:13:39 eric_hill GET/PUT/POST, json in, json out, and a few headers around auth and request params. Pretty stock.
2021-05-25 13:13:58 icholy eric_hill: 12 params doesn't seem like enough to justify codegen
2021-05-25 13:14:04 icholy s/params/functions
2021-05-25 13:14:40 eric_hill I don't disagree. I just haven't looked at the codegen space, so was just wondering if there was something super new and cool I should look at :)
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2021-05-25 13:15:21 eric_hill I found an older Reddit post that talked about some swagger tools and gRPC Gateway. Haven't touched either yet.
2021-05-25 13:15:58 icholy eric_hill: if you control both server/client swagger/openapi would be the best option
2021-05-25 13:16:13 albertito eric_hill: I looked recently, couldn't find anything reasonable for a small project, ended up hand coding it. Let me know if you find anything else that isn't swagger or grpc gateway
2021-05-25 13:16:18 eric_hill Unfortunately I only control the client.
2021-05-25 13:16:50 icholy eric_hill: either https://github.com/dave/jennifer or text/template
2021-05-25 13:17:09 fizzie gpeskens: icholy: I think I saw someone somewhere do https://play.golang.org/p/r8WRci651jF to use interfaces to denote "one of this specific list of types", but I don't think I'd go that far.
2021-05-25 13:18:14 eric_hill icholy: hadn't heard of jennifer. Interesting concept.
2021-05-25 13:20:07 icholy fizzie: that works if you control the types
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2021-05-25 13:22:17 albertito eric_hill: if you do it by hand, fwiw, https://play.golang.org/p/XZblH12PbNP went a very long way for me in simplifying the responses
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2021-05-25 13:23:20 eric_hill albertito: hah, that's pretty similar to one of the boilerplate functions I wrote for functions 1, 2, and 3, and that's when I started trying to figure out if there was a better way to do this.
2021-05-25 13:23:48 icholy I usually go with func Do(method, url string, req, res interface{}) error
2021-05-25 13:25:11 icholy req -> json request body, json response body -> res
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2021-05-25 13:25:46 icholy allow passing nil req to omit the request body
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2021-05-25 13:29:18 icholy individual methods end up looking like this: https://play.golang.org/p/ya2iFwrdOIF
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2021-05-25 13:38:35 eric_hill icholy: yea, that's probably my best option right now. Tx.
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2021-05-25 14:14:48 CustosLimen are there any organizations like eclipse/apache for golang, who adopt projects so the projects are not tied to particular people?
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2021-05-25 14:25:01 icholy CustosLimen: there's nothing preventing the apache foundation from adopting Go projects
2021-05-25 14:29:56 Dieterbe CustosLimen, icholy CNCF comes to mind
2021-05-25 14:30:13 Dieterbe https://www.cncf.io/
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2021-05-25 14:47:18 CustosLimen but they don't really look at libraries
2021-05-25 14:48:49 CustosLimen or maybe they do and I just have not noticed
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2021-05-25 16:02:51 CustosLimen maybe not the right place to ask, but as far as I can tell if I add a Unary and Stream server interceptor they both get called for every unary method: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-go/tree/master/examples/features/interceptor
2021-05-25 16:03:06 CustosLimen And the stream interceptor only gets called once
2021-05-25 16:03:15 CustosLimen Maybe it is right, just not what i expected
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2021-05-25 18:19:13 CustosLimen can I somehow get go test to not capture stdout/err
2021-05-25 18:19:22 CustosLimen just just dump it out directly
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2021-05-25 18:19:28 CustosLimen I tried, -v, does not do that
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2021-05-25 19:12:05 jacklong the first version of go compiler is written in which language ?
2021-05-25 19:13:17 Teckla jacklong: C
2021-05-25 19:13:28 jacklong not c++?
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2021-05-25 19:46:48 jacklong is that gccgo
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2021-05-25 20:00:53 -- Topic set by Aram (~aram@9front.army) on Wed, 19 May 2021 13:34:12
2021-05-25 20:00:53 -- Channel #go-nuts: 470 nicks (0 ops, 2 voices, 468 normals)
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2021-05-25 20:19:26 cispra jacklong: not sure what it is you try to achieve
2021-05-25 20:19:31 cispra but you seem to be confusing a few things here
2021-05-25 20:20:21 cispra the first compiler implementation was written in C (not C++) ; this is quite a normal approach (research compiler bootstrapping), since 1.5 the go compiler is written in Go
2021-05-25 20:20:46 cispra gccgo is a go compiler frontend (written in C++)
2021-05-25 20:20:57 cispra you can read up on all of it here https://golang.org/doc/faq#What_compiler_technology_is_used_to_build_the_compilers
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2021-05-25 21:06:18 MrFantastik hey folks, I've been using https://gitlab.com/reedrichards/tarbr/-/blob/master/main.go as a utility to automate making tarred brotli archives
2021-05-25 21:06:45 MrFantastik I'm consistently getting and error: panic: archive/tar: missed writing 8 bytes
2021-05-25 21:06:45 MrFantastik
2021-05-25 21:07:04 MrFantastik is it safe to catch this error and continue?
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2021-05-25 21:08:21 MrFantastik fyi the error is raised on line 54 here https://golang.org/src/archive/tar/writer.go
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2021-05-25 22:24:15 nevivurn MrFantastik: hm, that sounds wrong. I can't immediately see where you're missing 8 bytes, though.
2021-05-25 22:30:59 nevivurn MrFantastik: that code has a few mistakes, though; it doesn't check the input `err` from filepath.Walk, data isn't closed (!!), tar.FileInfoHeader() call is wrong
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2021-05-25 22:55:54 -- freenodecom has changed topic for #go-nuts from "we are also on irc.libera.chat, if freenode dies | golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?" to "This channel has moved to ##go-nuts. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies"
2021-05-25 22:55:54 @freenodecom This channel has been reopened with respect to the communities and new users. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies
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2021-05-25 22:55:54 -- Mode #go-nuts [-v skelterjohn] by freenodecom
2021-05-25 22:55:56 @freenodecom The new channel is ##go-nuts
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2021-05-26 01:09:16 -- Mode #go-nuts [-t] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:20 -- Mode #go-nuts [-s] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:23 -- Mode #go-nuts [-p] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:23 -- Mode #go-nuts [-n] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:11:53 -- danderson has changed topic for #go-nuts from "This channel has moved to ##go-nuts. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies" to "" ""
2021-05-26 01:11:55 -- Mode #go-nuts [-i] by lionman
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2021-05-26 01:12:13 @danderson lionman: I got it from here, thanks! And sorry for the bug, I was holding chanserv wrong
2021-05-26 01:12:16 @danderson figured it out eventually
2021-05-26 01:12:32 lionman np
2021-05-26 01:12:33 lionman cheers
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2021-05-26 01:12:40 -- Mode #go-nuts [-Ccfjmr] by danderson
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2021-05-26 01:12:48 b0nn .
2021-05-26 01:12:53 @danderson well, here we are...
2021-05-26 01:12:56 b0nn \o/
2021-05-26 01:13:01 KirkMcDonald ahaha
2021-05-26 01:13:34 @danderson so, I can't use the L-word, but the official channel is definitely that other one. And given how things have been going here, I'm going to go ahead and wrap up affairs and retire the channel properly, I think.
2021-05-26 01:14:14 @danderson so, if y'all haven't already, I encourage y'all to head roughly in that direction.
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2021-05-26 01:15:29 jemaclus i'm more of a smooth traveler, myself
2021-05-26 01:15:41 @danderson smooth travel is also currently permitted.
2021-05-26 01:16:25 jemaclus whew
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2021-05-26 01:16:55 KirkMcDonald "Moseying welcome."
2021-05-26 01:17:29 jemaclus whoa, look at mr rebel over here
2021-05-26 01:17:34 jemaclus let's not get carried away with the moseying
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2021-05-26 01:18:00 KirkMcDonald How about a saunter?
2021-05-26 01:18:18 @danderson keep the sauntering jolly, or I'll have to check your sauntering license
2021-05-26 01:19:15 jemaclus wow, mood police much
2021-05-26 01:19:28 @danderson THERE WILL BE NO DISSENT
2021-05-26 01:19:37 @danderson jolliness is mandatory.
2021-05-26 01:19:40 b0nn Disdollar?
2021-05-26 01:19:48 b0nn Disreceived?
2021-05-26 01:19:53 b0nn Disdadjokes?
2021-05-26 01:19:57 jemaclus who dis
2021-05-26 01:20:16 @danderson okay, what channel flags am I supposed to set on this cursed network
2021-05-26 01:21:15 -- Mode #go-nuts [+Cctr] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:21:20 A_D what do you want to do?
2021-05-26 01:21:21 @danderson something like that, apparently.
2021-05-26 01:21:37 A_D you probably want n
2021-05-26 01:21:38 @danderson A_D: I mean... be happy? That'd be nice.
2021-05-26 01:21:42 @danderson oh, you mean for channel modes
2021-05-26 01:21:48 jemaclus don't worry!
2021-05-26 01:21:48 A_D danderson: I don't think theres a channel mode for that
2021-05-26 01:21:54 -- Mode #go-nuts [+n] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:22:03 @danderson yup, missed n when scanning my list, thanks
2021-05-26 01:22:05 bookworm ... wat a shit show
2021-05-26 01:22:14 A_D mmmaybe T or whatever the block outside notices one is as well
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2021-05-26 01:22:18 bookworm thanks for the recovering
2021-05-26 01:22:22 -- Notice(A_D): otherwise I can do this
2021-05-26 01:22:43 hoodedfigure Oh hey, someone's still on freenode :O
2021-05-26 01:22:50 jemaclus God, is that you?!
2021-05-26 01:22:52 -- danderson has changed topic for #go-nuts from "" "" to "See https://golang.org/help/ for official support channels"
2021-05-26 01:23:00 @danderson hoodedfigure: that's an unconfirmed rumor
2021-05-26 01:23:25 hoodedfigure I joined by accident. Some other project didn't migrate :(
2021-05-26 01:23:56 b0nn ok, but how did A_D go purple
2021-05-26 01:24:04 jemaclus with great enthusiasm and gusto!
2021-05-26 01:24:09 LambdaComplex hey danderson are you that person who works for that wireguard vpn company that i'm too tired to remember the name of
2021-05-26 01:24:13 A_D b0nn: you mean the "i can do this" line?
2021-05-26 01:24:15 @danderson I know the feeling. I'm just here to tidy up and turn the lights off. I can't say the L-word without being smited by the Korean royal family, but go-nuts is over there now
2021-05-26 01:24:16 LambdaComplex or do i have you confused with someone else
2021-05-26 01:24:19 b0nn ya
2021-05-26 01:24:41 A_D it was a channel notice
2021-05-26 01:24:45 b0nn oh
2021-05-26 01:24:50 @danderson LambdaComplex: yeah, that's me, Tailscale is the word you're thinking of
2021-05-26 01:24:58 A_D danderson: *alleged korean royal family
2021-05-26 01:24:58 LambdaComplex ...i totally knew that
2021-05-26 01:25:01 bookworm get a better client b0nn ;P
2021-05-26 01:25:08 @danderson A_D: not seeing a button to block those in the manpage
2021-05-26 01:25:13 A_D the clown prince doesn't have any true right to that throne
2021-05-26 01:25:16 hoodedfigure danderson: good to know, I'm gonna leave then xD
2021-05-26 01:25:19 A_D danderson: I think its T
2021-05-26 01:25:28 hoodedfigure cyall on the other side
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2021-05-26 01:25:44 @danderson A_D: nope, freenode doesn't know T
2021-05-26 01:25:50 A_D then I dunno
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2021-05-26 01:26:06 A_D oh well, good enough I think?
2021-05-26 01:26:33 @danderson yeah, I'm aiming for a base level of "the next spambot wave won't hit too hard"
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2021-05-26 01:26:54 A_D you could +q $~a?
2021-05-26 01:27:07 A_D and list that you need to be registered to speak in the channel
2021-05-26 01:27:15 @danderson registered I already have
2021-05-26 01:27:22 @danderson what's the $~a?
2021-05-26 01:27:49 A_D same thing, $ = extended ban, ~ = negate, a = account, nothing else = quite all users without an account
2021-05-26 01:28:01 A_D already set
2021-05-26 01:28:04 A_D [07:27:50] * #go-nuts Banlist: Thu Mar 25 19:50:03 2021 $~a egan.freenode.net
2021-05-26 01:28:08 @danderson ah, I think we're good then, yeah
2021-05-26 01:28:22 @danderson and +r prevents unregistered users from joining
2021-05-26 01:28:39 bookworm which is redundant then
2021-05-26 01:30:03 @danderson eh s'fine, this all probably adds up to approximately a configured channel
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2021-05-26 02:10:01 p_l danderson: So, when is the ceremonial torching planned?
2021-05-26 02:10:30 @danderson p_l: when golang.org no longer points here. I'm coordinating that with Go folks now
2021-05-26 02:10:46 @danderson then I'll give it a little while for new joins to organically move over, and pull the plug
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2021-05-26 02:12:47 bookworm good plan
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2021-05-26 02:43:35 p_l I'd do similar, but there's no common ground for such info in Lisp community
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2021-05-26 02:50:09 Foxboron What a fucking trash fire.
2021-05-26 02:51:42 @danderson a good old 90s IRC torching. Makes you feel young again!
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2021-05-26 04:29:43 CoolerX HI
2021-05-26 04:29:59 CoolerX when writing golang templates
2021-05-26 04:30:14 CoolerX do you have to use the index function for keys that have spaces in them?
2021-05-26 04:30:44 CoolerX {{ index .Values.foo "bar baz" "aaa" "ccc ddd eee" "imagetag" }}
2021-05-26 04:31:26 CoolerX is there an alternative like simply quoting the keys? {{ .Values.foo."bar baz"."aaa"."ccc ddd eee"."imagetag" }}
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2021-05-26 04:35:32 A_D CoolerX: you will want to use libera.chat for golang help, its the official channel now
2021-05-26 04:35:43 A_D as for actually quoting the keys, I don't think so
2021-05-26 04:35:59 CoolerX A_D, libera?
2021-05-26 04:36:09 A_D its another IRC network
2021-05-26 04:36:22 A_D irc.libera.chat, #go-nuts
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2021-05-26 04:38:36 KekSi :x
2021-05-26 04:39:05 A_D cjd: lol
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2021-05-26 04:39:55 cjd ;)
2021-05-26 04:43:46 pgloor Get live support at #go-nuts on irc.freenode.net, the official Go IRC channel. (https://golang.org/help/)
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2021-05-26 04:48:59 @danderson we're working on changing the link on golang.org. Hence keeping the lights on here while we get that done.
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2021-05-26 05:13:16 albertito danderson: thank you
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2021-05-26 05:20:57 mort Wait, just yesterday this channel had the libera channel in its topic
2021-05-26 05:21:00 mort what happened?
2021-05-26 05:21:15 @danderson freenode staff nuked all channels that had the word "libera" in their topic.
2021-05-26 05:21:19 @danderson which includes 700+ OSS projects.
2021-05-26 05:21:25 @danderson including #go-nuts :)
2021-05-26 05:21:43 mort So it's confirmed them
2021-05-26 05:21:49 @danderson after much gnashing of teeth, I managed to claw the channel back from the new network operators, but... Pretty hostile move designed to prevent people from leaving freenode.
2021-05-26 05:21:52 mort it's just a hostile take-over
2021-05-26 05:22:11 mort and we should all ditch freenode ASAP right
2021-05-26 05:22:36 @danderson pretty much. The only reason I'm still here is to keep the lights on with #go-nuts until golang.org points to libera.
2021-05-26 05:28:04 mort May I create a thread somewhere and quote you? I feel like this should be widely known
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2021-05-26 05:30:49 mort Just a couple of lines about how #go-nuts and over 700 other projects' channels were nuked
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2021-05-26 06:13:15 Aram mort: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@kline/106299403921451814
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2021-05-26 07:03:32 iivvoo hmm yeah time to leave then I guess. See you on the other side!
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2021-05-26 07:50:52 DaftMonk hi
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2021-05-26 08:18:59 * DaftMonk is trying to find IDE that runs in OBSD
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2021-05-26 08:28:20 lluad_ DaftMonk, You might want to head over to libera.chat, where tis channel has migrated to. (But vi and VSCode are two popular free, portable environments for Go, while Goland is a very solid commercial one)
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2021-05-26 08:30:07 DaftMonk Yeah oroblem is what works in openbsd
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2021-05-26 08:34:58 lluad_ I believe all three do to some extent, but irc.libera.chat:6697 is where you're likely to find people who're actually using them there.
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2021-05-26 08:39:49 nebiros https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/nlap4r/the_irc_channel_has_moved_to_elixir_ircliberachat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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2021-05-26 08:40:53 DaftMonk VSCOde uses electron, which is not supported
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2021-05-26 08:42:35 nebiros daftMonk: what about new sublime text?, add lsp support and gopls, works pretty good
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2021-05-26 08:57:53 hgl how is scanning sql result into nested struct like County{ Name: "us"; Cities: []City{...}} conventionally solved in go? I find doing it manually really complicated. Is the problem usually solved in a different way or if there is some way to automate it?
2021-05-26 08:58:26 lluad_ hgl, Several ways, but most commonly either via an ORM or via code generation.
2021-05-26 08:59:13 hgl i heard ORM is going to generate slow sql once the structs grow complex, how is code generation done?
2021-05-26 09:00:00 lluad_ https://gorm.io or github.com/georgsavva/scany (as examples more than recommendations)
2021-05-26 09:00:19 lluad_ An ORM is fine for simple operations, regardless of the size of the struct.
2021-05-26 09:00:32 hgl thanks, checking them out
2021-05-26 09:00:39 hgl the second one seems to be 404
2021-05-26 09:01:18 lluad_ Using an ORM-centric design can lead to inefficient database schema and sql queries if you try and do anything too fancy with it - but many apps don't need much more, as long as you can escape from the ORM to do raw SQL in the rare cases you need it.
2021-05-26 09:01:54 hgl that makes sense, maybe i should give ORM a try
2021-05-26 09:01:55 lluad_ Should be georgysavva, I think. (copy and paste has stopped working on my machine for some inexplicable reason ...)
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2021-05-26 09:02:20 lluad_ Which database are you using?
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2021-05-26 09:03:04 hgl postgres
2021-05-26 09:03:45 lluad_ github.com/go-pg/pg is well worth a look as an ORM, then. (And pgx works very nicely with scany, if you go that route)
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2021-05-26 09:06:39 lluad_ hgl, You'll find much more expertise over on #go-nuts (and maybe #postgresql) on irc.libera.net:6697, though. That's where this channel has gone.
2021-05-26 09:06:50 lluad_ irc.libera.chat, I mean
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2021-05-26 09:07:37 hgl oh, i have seen the message if i recall correctly. is freenode moving there?
2021-05-26 09:08:16 lluad_ Freenode has been taken over by ... people you don't want to be running your IRC service. Most of the OSS channels and most of the freenode staff are now over on libera.chat.
2021-05-26 09:09:06 hgl got it, thanks for the heads up
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2021-05-26 10:22:38 icholy did any of the chan ops get kicked?
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2021-05-26 10:23:17 drigo-alencar hi, where I can find information about how to do benchmark and read output? I read the go docs but still confused
2021-05-26 10:23:43 icholy drigo-alencar: which part are you stuck on?
2021-05-26 10:24:33 icholy drigo-alencar: also https://dave.cheney.net/2013/06/30/how-to-write-benchmarks-in-go
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2021-05-26 10:26:54 drigo-alencar mostly on how to read the output and cmd line options like benchtime
2021-05-26 10:28:25 icholy drigo-alencar: so the testing.B.N is how many times the benchmark function should run the operation you're measuring
2021-05-26 10:28:56 icholy drigo-alencar: `123 ns/op` output means that, on average, an operation takes 123 nanoseconds
2021-05-26 10:30:08 icholy drigo-alencar: you shouldn't need to explicitly set benchtime
2021-05-26 10:30:39 icholy drigo-alencar: it will automatically figure out a good N for you
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2021-05-26 10:58:54 drigo-alencar I'm trying to bench a case where the database could be the bottleneck so, I put the function that use the db into benchmark the way I imagine is that on one point errors will appear as there is N threads accessing the db but is performing very well
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2021-05-26 11:08:31 vtx hi folks o/ can anyone recommend a file watcher for go? specifically i'm interested in one that works well with docker-compose etc
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2021-05-26 11:30:45 domino14 when are we moving
2021-05-26 11:31:03 siXy domino14: Most people are already on the new channel.
2021-05-26 11:31:07 pepee there is a channel there already
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2021-05-26 11:54:22 l0rd_hex does anyone have more cardboard boxes? I forgot to clean out that drawer in the kitchen
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2021-05-26 12:19:16 domino14 this channel is still bigger than the other one
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2021-05-26 12:23:24 pepee welcome to IRC. you will see lots of "people" idling for months at a time
2021-05-26 12:23:31 jemaclus maybe. how many here are idling or orphaned bouncers? at least everyone on libera is new as of the last two weeks
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2021-05-26 12:24:16 fizzie I was going to suggest the real metric is amount of on-topic conversations per hour, but that's a little harder to measure, especially since the main topic on every channel these days is this meta-talk about networks.
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2021-05-26 12:38:19 Gnuman speaking just for myself, I'm in the [network that must not be named] #go-nuts chat for actual Go discussion, and I'm only here to watch the freenode drama unfold.
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2021-05-26 13:00:24 MrHall Hi! Do you know some library to generate swagger.json with open api v3? Or should i create it by hand?
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2021-05-26 13:06:01 @danderson MrHall: hey! You probably want to join irc.libera.chat and ask that on #go-nuts there. This channel is moribund, we're working on updating the golang.org link. Sorry for the confusion!
2021-05-26 13:06:18 @danderson the local network operators don't want us advertising the new home in the topic, so we're left with this confusing mess
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2021-05-26 13:08:44 pepee what about /notice'ing users who enter this channel?
2021-05-26 13:08:50 pepee danderson, ^
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2021-05-26 13:09:21 @danderson I'm sure there's a chanserv config for doing that, but I have to also do work, in addition to watching freenode die :(
2021-05-26 13:12:57 pepee yeah, it fucking sucks to see it die...
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2021-05-26 13:13:56 MrHall Thanks
2021-05-26 13:14:04 MrHall I did not know that
2021-05-26 13:14:11 MrHall I will enter to this network
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2021-05-26 13:20:05 @danderson MrHall: yw! And I think there are libraries to generate swagger files, I'm sure the other channel will be able to help
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2021-05-26 13:34:11 eric_hill So is the general consensus to move over to <new network>? Or is this just going to be two homes for a while?
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2021-05-26 13:36:33 siXy eric_hill: former. most folks seem to have moved.
2021-05-26 13:36:49 internut moved? where?
2021-05-26 13:36:51 @danderson yeah, people have already voted with their feet, it's all over but the updating of golang.org
2021-05-26 13:37:01 @danderson to #go-nuts on libera.chat
2021-05-26 13:37:13 internut never heard of libera.chat
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2021-05-26 13:37:58 @danderson ah, you missed the fun. Freenode underwent a hostile takeover by (I'm not joking) the disputed crown prince of both koreas.
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2021-05-26 13:38:06 eric_hill Search the recent news about Freenode ownership, and a big amount of fallout based on that
2021-05-26 13:38:14 @danderson the entire freenode staff quit, and founded libera.chat.
2021-05-26 13:38:28 siXy Very disputed as neither korea are aware that they have a monarchy at all.
2021-05-26 13:38:46 siXy But I'm sure it makes a lovely bit of paper to glue to the wall.
2021-05-26 13:38:59 @danderson yeah, I'm the disputed crown prince of mars, it turns out
2021-05-26 13:39:27 * siXy grins
2021-05-26 13:39:30 @danderson anyway. Bottom line, libera.chat is "freenode from 3 weeks ago" under a new name. Freenode today is under a new management who's busily burning the place down
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2021-05-26 13:39:58 @danderson last night they nuked this channel on the basis of some new policy they just made up and never wrote down, and cost me 3h of prodding them to get it back
2021-05-26 13:40:43 @danderson so, as soon as golang.org is updated to point at libera.chat, this channel's getting flushed. The only reason I'm keeping it around right now is because golang.org still points here and I want to be able to point people to the new home
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2021-05-26 13:43:33 internut so, when you say 'hostile takeover', do you mean by technical means? or they bought it?
2021-05-26 13:44:06 @danderson that's heavily disputed. The new management claims the network was sold to them, and that a contract exists.
2021-05-26 13:44:21 internut what does teh old management say about that?
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2021-05-26 13:44:48 @danderson however, there is evidence to suggest that the network wasn't part of the sale (only some sponsorship-related things), and that the person who "sold" it didn't actually own it in the first place.
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2021-05-26 13:45:11 @danderson So, it's a giant mess, and the only way to find out for sure would be a long and vindictive court battle to establish the legitimacy of the sale
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2021-05-26 13:46:08 @danderson the former staff decided they couldn't afford that court case financially, since they're all unpaid volunteers. So they resigned instead and formed a non-profit to run libera.chat on firm legal grounds (i.e. "no, you can't sell this one, we have documents this time")
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2021-05-26 13:46:35 internut I see
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2021-05-26 13:46:53 @danderson honestly there's a bunch of "they said they said" going on. On balance I tend to believe the libera folks (i.e. the former freenode staff), but regardless of that, the new management is going off the deep end in more ways than one
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2021-05-26 13:47:12 @danderson and freenode is frankly no longer a safe place to host any community that aims to be inclusive
2021-05-26 13:47:38 siXy internut: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ might be helpful if you want something more written-in-the-press than a bunch of gists
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2021-05-26 13:47:59 KirkMcDonald Honestly, I find that most of the discussion about matters, and the confusion about why Lee is so disliked, misses the point.
2021-05-26 13:48:14 Shawn New management is nuking any channel that has moved to libra chat, removing the channel topic and creating a new channel with an extra # to keep users here
2021-05-26 13:48:16 Shawn Shit's wild
2021-05-26 13:48:25 @danderson if they'd been vaguely reasonable and kept things going mostly unchanged, I probably wouldn't care. But they're taking action that makes it clear they view freenode as an absolute monarchy, where the word of the new owner is law.
2021-05-26 13:48:38 @danderson IMO, he's welcome to his little kingdom, but I'm out, and taking all the communities I can with me.
2021-05-26 13:48:58 internut pretty nuts
2021-05-26 13:49:21 KirkMcDonald Though there's less confusion now that Lee has been so publicly demonstrating his, uh, level of competence at community management.
2021-05-26 13:49:29 @danderson KirkMcDonald: it was just amusing drama to me until last night. The nuking of channels for daring to mention another IRC network is an egregious violation of the social contract, and it's now personal to me.
2021-05-26 13:49:30 siXy Also things like new staff being rizon ops, which is more or less 4chan-on-irc.
2021-05-26 13:50:00 @danderson and yes, regardless of anything else, the new staff is basically incompetent. It's complete clown college, through and through.
2021-05-26 13:50:34 KirkMcDonald But the original issue is simply this: The old Freenode staff was essentially anarchic and self-organized. There was already discontent at the suggestion that this guy was saying, "I own you now."
2021-05-26 13:51:01 KirkMcDonald For that to move to, "I own you, so do what I say," was wholly unacceptable.
2021-05-26 13:51:55 @danderson and for all the talk of creating a democratic process for participating in network ops, last night the "owner" unilaterally nuked 700+ channels of open source projects on a whim, without even informing his new staff.
2021-05-26 13:52:37 @danderson the result was several hours of shitshow while the few staff present scrambled to figure out wtf had happened, what their king wanted, and so forth
2021-05-26 13:53:11 @danderson all the while having enraged some of the largest remaining IRC OSS communities on the planet. So, good job at that new management thing.
2021-05-26 13:54:15 KirkMcDonald That so much of the conversation is centered on Freenode being sold entirely misses the point. What got sold? Some hardware? A database of names and channels? As the re-founding of the community at libera.chat shows, the important thing is the thing you can't pay money to acquire.
2021-05-26 13:55:17 KirkMcDonald Like. This is the free software movement. Why would we want the guy with the money telling us what to do?
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2021-05-26 14:16:37 @danderson there, stick that in your regex killfile and smoke it, rasengan
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2021-05-26 14:20:21 Gnuman lol! well played =)
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2021-05-26 14:25:20 fizzie "Important information, please rot13 this text: ..." If it's good enough for spoilers in Usenet...
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2021-05-26 16:37:36 rasenqan -server notice- All references to libera.chat are now subject to network-wide ban (k-line)!
2021-05-26 16:39:24 ghostbuster liar
2021-05-26 16:39:44 jemaclus lol
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2021-05-26 17:00:51 jemaclus I mean, it was somewhat believable, so...
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2021-05-26 17:09:34 jemaclus danderson: fwiw, the sidebar on Reddit /r/golang still shows freenode as well. I pinged the mods so maybe they'll change it soon.
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2021-05-26 17:38:08 b0nn jemaclus: If they don't answer you on reddit (or the change is taking too long) - all three are active on twitter
2021-05-26 17:38:35 b0nn Peter is the most active, then Damian, then occassionally Nate
2021-05-26 17:38:51 b0nn ahhh that didn't feel "stalkery" at all
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2021-05-26 17:56:53 -- Mode #go-nuts [+q DyingFreenode!*@*] by danderson
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2021-05-26 18:38:23 Freman hmm there's a rest interface for just about everything online - I can even count how long a string is, why hasn't anyone that does a sleep :P
2021-05-26 18:38:52 Freman https://example.com/sleep/random/30/60
2021-05-26 18:39:47 Gnuman it makes me sad that people use online REST interfaces to do simple things that don't even require an operating system.
2021-05-26 18:41:22 * Freman shrugs, I just wanted to POC a concept and had to knock out a php script to simulate a delay (I don't control anything else, half of it is amazon lex, the other half is a flow language the supports remote requests but nothing slepey)
2021-05-26 18:41:35 nemith see you guys on the other side
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2021-05-26 18:44:44 Freman doesn't apparently have a rand function either
2021-05-26 18:51:46 * b0nn randomly falls asleep *all the time*
2021-05-26 18:52:15 b0nn Freman: have you heard of our lord and saviour libera.chat?
2021-05-26 18:52:30 Freman I hear that's where you can talk with other priests
2021-05-26 18:52:45 Freman it also annoyed the crap out of my wife to have my laptop dinging all night
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2021-05-26 18:53:02 b0nn lol, she knew what she was getting into!
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2021-05-27 05:52:19 TheDude2600 Can anyone suggest a name for the package that contains encoded commands and messages that get exchanged between the client and server
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2021-05-27 06:00:36 b0nn TheDude2600: Strongly recommend you read the topic
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2021-05-27 06:04:20 TheDude2600 go it
2021-05-27 06:04:24 TheDude2600 got*
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2021-05-27 12:55:25 j416 here we go.
2021-05-27 12:55:34 j416 danderson: is it time? https://github.com/golang/website/commit/9c84c7effa02 -> https://golang.org/help
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2021-05-27 14:07:44 @danderson j416: it's time. I'll give it until end of my local day in case stragglers show up, but otherwise it's time
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2021-05-27 15:57:00 * b0nn will actually be sad to say goodbye to freenode :(
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2021-05-27 16:08:25 @danderson As golang.org/help now says, this community's primary home is now on libera.chat. The community there is much larger and more active than the one here, so if you're looking for Go help, your best bet is over there.
2021-05-27 16:09:03 @danderson I'll be retiring this channel shortly, after a grace period to let people decide where they want to remain. Then I'll figure out the correct way to wind up affairs here.
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2021-05-27 16:14:58 b0nn I think this account of mine has been open 15 or 16 years - almost to the day, it was created on 26 May IIRC
2021-05-27 16:15:39 b0nn (I only know because a friend ran a whois - that I cannot replicate) that tells the account creation date
2021-05-27 16:15:55 b0nn damned brackets are damned
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2021-05-27 16:18:08 dr0n Hello all, what would be the best way to discover a duplicated character in a string; I was thinking about using nasted loop
2021-05-27 16:18:26 dr0n but the result is not what I expected
2021-05-27 16:18:36 dr0n https://play.golang.org/p/DaDpxlTlHch
2021-05-27 16:18:38 dr0n any tips
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2021-05-27 16:19:45 b0nn dr0n: My best advice is for you to take heed of the topic
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2021-05-27 16:21:27 dr0n oh!
2021-05-27 16:21:38 dr0n that is interesting
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2021-05-27 16:22:56 b0nn once you have registered over there, join the go-nuts channel and I'll tell you a couple of things about your code :)
2021-05-27 16:24:11 dr0n just connecting, thanks b0nn, speak over there
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2021-05-27 16:54:36 abyx Kind of a long shot here but: I'm using the Lumberjack v2 logging rolling package in a windows executable that's running as a "Local Service". For some reason none of my logs are being written to file. I can read/write files just fine if I do it directly, but this package doesn't seem to want to actually write to disk. The package works fine on MacOS, and Windows when NOT being executed as a service. Kind of at a loss here.
2021-05-27 16:55:53 theckman abyx: please see the link in the topic; you might have more luck asking for help after reading that.
2021-05-27 16:57:01 abyx oh, wow. Thanks for the heads up
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2021-05-27 20:24:11 jemaclus I think j416 pointed it out, but the golang website is updated to point to the other site: https://golang.org/help
2021-05-27 20:26:07 jemaclus Reddit still hasn't updated
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2021-05-27 21:25:37 @danderson jemaclus: yup. Planning to put things in order here tonight.
2021-05-27 21:25:48 @danderson Not sure who runs the subreddit, I don't think it's an official watering hole?...
2021-05-27 21:25:51 @danderson I'll reach out to them.
2021-05-27 21:27:16 @danderson jemaclus: hmm, where does reddit point to here? I'm not seeing it on golang.reddit.com
2021-05-27 21:29:43 jemaclus https://www.reddit.com/r/golang
2021-05-27 21:30:11 jemaclus it's in the sidebar. I pinged the mods and I also pinged @peterbourgon on Twitter but no response yet.
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2021-05-27 21:31:26 b0nn danderson: I can only see it when I look at the old reddit -old.reddit.com/r/golang
2021-05-27 21:31:31 @danderson ah, hm
2021-05-27 21:32:27 jemaclus oh, yeah, i'm on old reddit
2021-05-27 21:32:27 -- X-Scale` is now known as X-Scale
2021-05-27 21:32:46 jemaclus I keep forgetting there's a new reddit :)
2021-05-27 21:33:08 @danderson wow yeah, old reddit is so much better
2021-05-27 21:33:14 jemaclus right?
2021-05-27 21:33:17 @danderson I guess I switched at some point and then never went back
2021-05-27 21:34:26 b0nn I only know because a lot of old schoolers link to old.reddit.com - I've only ever really used the new format
2021-05-27 21:34:27 jemaclus I guess maybe it doesn't matter. fewer and fewer people are on old reddit, so
2021-05-27 21:35:36 jemaclus it's weird that none of those links in the sidebar are on new reddit
2021-05-27 21:35:57 jemaclus my mobile app shows the sidebar though
2021-05-27 21:36:05 jemaclus so it's worth having them update if we can get them to do it, probably.
2021-05-27 21:36:57 b0nn It's worth updating, given 1) it's wrong and 2) the swings and roundabouts means that one day reddit might come back to being the front page of the internet
2021-05-27 21:37:17 b0nn I mean, look at /. and HN is ... dying ish
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2021-05-27 23:23:34 jemaclus looks like @peterbourgon updated Reddit! https://d.pr/i/yOM7Cm
2021-05-27 23:32:46 @danderson ah yeah, he replied to me on reddit
2021-05-27 23:32:47 @danderson sweet
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2021-05-27 23:47:41 @danderson jemaclus: still around?
2021-05-27 23:50:02 @danderson b0nn: still around?
2021-05-27 23:50:18 b0nn yup
2021-05-27 23:50:27 @danderson can I /query real quick?
2021-05-27 23:50:50 @danderson need someone to check my homework
2021-05-27 23:51:02 b0nn ok, what do I need to do?
2021-05-27 23:51:36 b0nn responded
2021-05-28 00:00:39 @danderson arright folks, golang.org/help made it official, so I'm winding down this channel. See y'all on the other side, on the IRC network that must not be named!
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