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2021-05-12 23:43:59	bodhi	I am authenticating using grpc interceptor. Is there a way to add userid encoded in the bearer toke into the handler?
2021-05-12 23:46:04	bodhi	I am adding and API GetAuthorizedInstalledSystems. The authentication passes but the req does not contain the username. How do I get the userid to query database in the handler func.
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2021-05-13 00:25:08	b0nn	bodhi: middleware
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2021-05-13 00:26:27	b0nn	eg https://github.com/grpc-ecosystem/go-grpc-middleware/blob/master/auth/examples_test.go
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2021-05-13 01:39:12	bodhi	b0nn: thanks.
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2021-05-13 01:41:56	b0nn	also, long time no see, hope all is well
2021-05-13 01:42:17	bodhi	b0nn: I tried using the middleware. In here I need more information about the object right now. Like I need to get some fields and some operations in there.
2021-05-13 01:42:34	bodhi	b0nn: yes all well. came back to US.
2021-05-13 01:43:39	b0nn	I usually prefer to have the middleware do a Redis lookup, when it needs to get info to .. fatten up.. a JWT
2021-05-13 01:44:08	b0nn	When there's a cache miss 302 to a login endpoint
2021-05-13 01:44:22	b0nn	that endpoint, upon successful login, populates the cache
2021-05-13 01:45:05	bodhi	ok in my case I need to look into the get parameters of the object. I am trying to see if the user has ability to do the operations it is trying to do right now.
2021-05-13 01:45:33	b0nn	Yeah, you're looking at the claims to see if they should have access to the resource
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2021-05-13 01:47:14	bodhi	like say if I was doing (grpc rest example) GET /machines/{id}/usagestats I see that the unaryInterceptor has a req interface and nothing in it.
2021-05-13 01:47:20	bodhi	will check the claims.
2021-05-13 01:47:50	bodhi	basically I want access to the "id" also in the request in the interceptor.
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2021-05-13 04:14:25	absk007	I want to implement a pattern in which a directory will be scanned for certain specific interface and execute the method. It's like a plug n play kinda implementation.
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2021-05-13 04:24:36	sztanpet	that could work if plugins would be easy to use, the pragmatic solution is to compile everything together as usual, make the plugins register themselves via your main api and recompile for any new "plugin" or in this case, simply new code
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2021-05-13 05:31:01	dabukalam	I have a json with some data where the value is also the key, and i'm struggling to unmarshal it into a nested struct. https://ghostbin.co/paste/dv8f
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2021-05-13 05:33:27	dabukalam	bah, pastebin slightly wrong - there is no "info:", just {}
2021-05-13 05:34:50	b0nn	hmm shouldn't users be a []
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2021-05-13 05:38:17	fizzie	That JSON just doesn't correspond to that struct. The variable `users` just has three (leaf) string fields, no more.
2021-05-13 05:40:40	dabukalam	right - the challenge I have is that I'm not sure how to actually pull out the name
2021-05-13 05:40:47	dabukalam	(since it's the key)
2021-05-13 05:40:56	dabukalam	suspect it's easy and i'm being stupid
2021-05-13 05:41:19	fizzie	You'd unmarshal it like this, for example: https://play.golang.org/p/py48yTEWpIc
2021-05-13 05:41:42	fizzie	And what comes out would be a map.
2021-05-13 05:42:56	fizzie	And the tags are optional because there's some default mappings going on; it works the same as https://play.golang.org/p/EywYZOlOKyQ
2021-05-13 05:43:04	fizzie	(But of course you might want to be explicit about it anyway.)
2021-05-13 05:45:10	fizzie	(Oh, and you'd need the tags if you intend to json.Marshal it back with the same keys.)
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2021-05-13 05:50:54	b0nn	I've got some json, I Unmarshal it into a sturct *then* I loop over every struct that I have just created, and fish the data out into maps
2021-05-13 05:51:04	b0nn	I am really really not happy with my solution
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2021-05-13 05:51:58	b0nn	https://play.golang.org/p/XyX8gD9hICs
2021-05-13 05:52:47	b0nn	I'm sure I'm doing it wrong, I just cannot think of a cleaner method (even /with/ reflect I still need to switch on different types so that I can handle them proerply)
2021-05-13 05:53:25	fizzie	I don't have any obviously cleaner method structurally, but you don't need all that if-else business to do that.
2021-05-13 05:53:42	fizzie	The zero value of a []*User is nil, and you can append to a nil slice to create the one-element slice.
2021-05-13 05:53:58	fizzie	So you can do your `else` branch unconditionally.
2021-05-13 05:55:06	b0nn	hm that will clean up a lot of boilerplate, I'll just commit before a change and see how I get on
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2021-05-13 05:57:58	b0nn	https://play.golang.org/p/oNPsIpZ4fPf
2021-05-13 06:00:24	b0nn	I mean, it's never going to be the prettiest :(
2021-05-13 06:00:43	b0nn	I'd rather shove it in a DB TBH and let /it/ create the indexes
2021-05-13 06:01:15	b0nn	(FTR this is from some homework I did in January, and they knocked me back on account that my search was linear)
2021-05-13 06:02:04	b0nn	So, I have spent the last couple of months reviewing trees, and search and such, to try and get a better understanding of how I could have done it better
2021-05-13 06:03:25	b0nn	i am still quite unhappy about the solution, because the hashing function for maps is actually quite expensive, and it's ugly, and will chew up a LOT of memory in a decent sized input
2021-05-13 06:04:09	b0nn	But I cannot find a tree that I can put the items in that will give me search on every struct, and every field in every struct
2021-05-13 06:07:00	bodhi	b0nn: thank you for the suggestion on the claims. I readup about it and implemented it. It works very well.
2021-05-13 06:07:23	dabukalam	fizzie: thank you very much, that's helped me click things into place actually
2021-05-13 06:07:25	dabukalam	i think
2021-05-13 06:07:32	b0nn	bodhi: oh, nice
2021-05-13 06:07:59	bodhi	Are you aware of any admission controls? Similar to authorization and authentication. Is there any admission control that I can introduce in grpc?
2021-05-13 06:09:09	b0nn	bodhi: This might be a worthwhile read https://curity.io/resources/learn/jwt-best-practices/
2021-05-13 06:10:08	b0nn	With my preferred option https://curity.io/resources/learn/phantom-token-pattern/
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2021-05-13 06:11:14	b0nn	If you have a phantom token it means that your FE devs cannot couple the app to the token claims (with the downside that they *must* make calls for stuff, they cannot check if the JWT they have would confirm or deny access)
2021-05-13 06:11:50	b0nn	As for your actual question - not I
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2021-05-13 06:28:17	bodhi	b0nn: I see. I am working on a model where FE and BE could create a common model of access. They both use a service to know whether the token has access to a resource or not and then allow/[deny/show]
2021-05-13 06:28:37	bodhi	Do you know of anything that was built with this phantom model? opensource side?
2021-05-13 06:28:55	bodhi	btw how are you doing? Still interviewing or you found a good place to park?
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2021-05-13 06:35:01	b0nn	So, the argument against FE/BE sharing knowledge is coupling/ownership - if you want to change the nature of the claims, you need to have a discussion with FE to see how much work it will be for them to no longer use the claims
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2021-05-13 06:36:16	b0nn	So, let's say you have a claim that denotes administration, but your BE decides that, in fact, there are two types of admin, site admin, and domain admin (or whatever) - but FE has tied a LOT of code to the admin claim - changing it is super painful for them
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2021-05-13 06:36:38	b0nn	(Sure, it won't be fun for BE either as they will have, no doubt, coupled hard too
2021-05-13 06:36:58	b0nn	But, as the owners they can make changes they feel are appropriate
2021-05-13 06:37:17	b0nn	WRT known implementations, no, not off the top of my head
2021-05-13 06:37:56	b0nn	And, finally, work - I keep fluctuating between turning roles down or triggering people, so they turn me down
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2021-05-13 06:39:17	b0nn	I turned one down this morning (because it was a 3 hour flight north of me and I felt that if the venture didn't pan out, I'd be stuck up there. And I turned one down on Friday because I was led to believe that 3 days a week would be remote, but during the interview they recanted/reneged and said it was 100% in office
2021-05-13 06:40:01	b0nn	They also tried to play dumb on the expected salary - so I felt that they couldn't be trusted
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2021-05-13 06:40:54	b0nn	I have a remote gig that I have turned down twice, because it's not enough money, but I am seriously starting to think I should just hold my nose and do it - purely to be doing something
2021-05-13 06:44:12	b0nn	Knowing my luck, though, as soon as I accept they will pull the offer
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2021-05-13 07:11:02	uskerine	hi, how do I convert an epoch timestamp into a time object at a given timezone?
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2021-05-13 07:15:27	timkofu	Hi
2021-05-13 07:16:22	sztanpet	uskerine a unix timestamp is always in utc, and you convert from a timestamp to a time object via https://golang.org/pkg/time/#Unix
2021-05-13 07:17:03	KirkMcDonald	time.Unix only operates in the local timezone.
2021-05-13 07:17:13	sztanpet	and to convert to another timezone, use https://golang.org/pkg/time/#Time.In
2021-05-13 07:17:53	KirkMcDonald	Yeah.
2021-05-13 07:18:00	uskerine	 fmt.Println("The time was", time.Unix(epoch, 0).Format(time.RFC822Z))
2021-05-13 07:18:05	uskerine	sorry wrong paste
2021-05-13 07:18:06	uskerine	forget that
2021-05-13 07:18:13	uskerine	https://play.golang.org/p/YHxAPI64s2E
2021-05-13 07:18:16	uskerine	this is what I want
2021-05-13 07:18:36	bodhi	good luck b0nn I am sure you will find a good match. :-)
2021-05-13 07:18:50	 *	uskerine is reading In
2021-05-13 07:19:22	uskerine	https://play.golang.org/p/vj-TXb6kE_t
2021-05-13 07:19:24	uskerine	good! thanks
2021-05-13 07:28:02	SoF	does anyone know a good language-server-protocol library in go?
2021-05-13 07:28:07	SoF	to make my own server, that is
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2021-05-13 08:03:04	absk007	 I want to implement a pattern in which a directory will be scanned for certain specific interface and execute the method. It's like a plug n play kinda implementation.
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2021-05-13 08:07:00	CommunistWolf	a... directory?
2021-05-13 08:07:20	CommunistWolf	if you're looking for a registry sort of pattern, then the one database/sql implements might be handy to look at
2021-05-13 08:07:55	CommunistWolf	if you're looking for dynamic plugins, I shall say a prayer for you
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2021-05-13 08:09:07	uskerine	if I do want to convert int to uint32, I see there is a conversion uint() but, how do I know that it is actually uint32_
2021-05-13 08:09:10	uskerine	?
2021-05-13 08:09:55	shunkica	check the value if the int first?
2021-05-13 08:10:20	uskerine	I mean does uint() returns uint32 or uint64?
2021-05-13 08:10:28	KirkMcDonald	Depends on the architecture.
2021-05-13 08:10:32	shunkica	i guess that is system dependant
2021-05-13 08:10:35	KirkMcDonald	But if you want uint32, then just use uint32.
2021-05-13 08:10:35	uskerine	in a 64bits box?
2021-05-13 08:16:17	uskerine	so reading the doc, I understand this would be the way to get a 64 bits from a string -> https://play.golang.org/p/Kr-wrxUsOUu
2021-05-13 08:16:30	uskerine	sorry, a 32 bits
2021-05-13 08:17:14	shunkica	I have two fields in a struct and only one must be set (they are exclusive). For example struct{x string, y struct}. The problem is I can't know which one of the fields has been set since I cant assign nil to string or struct. Is there another way of doing this, besides adding a third field which will hold an indicator as to which of the two fields
2021-05-13 08:17:15	shunkica	has been set?
2021-05-13 08:18:07	CoolerX	Hi
2021-05-13 08:18:32	CoolerX	how does this get encoded as metadata? https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/apis/apps/types.go#L270
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2021-05-13 08:18:55	CoolerX	when doing json.Marshal how does that struct get encoded under the key `metadata` ?
2021-05-13 08:19:32	CoolerX	for example here https://bpa.st/WZDQ
2021-05-13 08:19:44	CoolerX	encoded to yaml in that case
2021-05-13 08:20:54	seankhliao	shunkica: is the default value (empty string, empty struct) valid? otherwise use a pointer
2021-05-13 08:24:36	shunkica	Yes that is my problem. the empty value is also valid. I don't understand how would I use a pointer to solve this problem?
2021-05-13 08:25:02	sztanpet	check if the pointer is nil, if it is, the value is definitely unset
2021-05-13 08:29:44	sztanpet	CoolerX anonymous embedded structs are marshalled as if their fields were in the outer struct, see https://play.golang.org/p/j7wH3phCgvx
2021-05-13 08:30:27	CoolerX	sztanpet, yes that's what I expect, but instead it gets marshalled under the key `metadata`
2021-05-13 08:30:36	CoolerX	see https://bpa.st/WZDQ
2021-05-13 08:31:21	sztanpet	CoolerX so? read their code and see how they do it, im not at all familiar with kubernetes, i just told you the default behavior
2021-05-13 08:31:40	sztanpet	they can have custom marshallers, etc
2021-05-13 08:32:04	CoolerX	sure
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2021-05-13 08:39:31	nezxan	still struggling with interfaces? https://tour.golang.org/methods/9 see the Note here ... but I thought methods with pointer recievers can either take a reciever or a value and it doesn't matter
2021-05-13 08:39:39	nezxan	somehow with interfaces it does matter?
2021-05-13 08:40:22	shunkica	@sztanpet How do I check if the pointer is null? "if *x == nil" and *x == *nil" doesn't compile (invalid indirect), and "if &x == nil" always returns true.
2021-05-13 08:40:35	sztanpet	nezxan maybe this will help https://golang.org/ref/spec#Method_sets
2021-05-13 08:40:42	sztanpet	shunkica if x == nil
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2021-05-13 08:41:28	sztanpet	shunkica remember, * is when you dereference a pointer, & is when you take the address of a variable, so if you dont have any of them, that is the value of the pointer aka the memory location
2021-05-13 08:41:45	shunkica	But that just gives me cannot convert nil to type string/struct
2021-05-13 08:41:56	sztanpet	that just means you dont have a pointer type
2021-05-13 08:42:06	sztanpet	maybe start with tour.golang.org
2021-05-13 08:43:23	shunkica	Oh I think I get it. You say i should replace string inside my struct with pointer to string.
2021-05-13 08:43:30	shunkica	then check if pointer is nil
2021-05-13 08:43:36	sztanpet	exactly
2021-05-13 08:44:22	shunkica	That might work for me in this case. Thank you
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2021-05-13 08:51:00	uskerine	is there sptrinf in go?
2021-05-13 08:51:08	SamWhited	fmt.Sprintf
2021-05-13 08:51:19	uskerine	I see
2021-05-13 08:51:21	uskerine	thanks
2021-05-13 08:51:54	nezxan	sztanpet: I think I get it now
2021-05-13 08:53:10	nezxan	there's not much to get now that I think about it. It's just that interfaces work that way. If a method is defined on a pointer, only the pointer type will implement the accompanying interface
2021-05-13 08:54:26	nezxan	how methods with pointer recievers behave when they are passed a value or pointer is a separate issue altogether
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2021-05-13 08:56:48	absk007	CommunistWolf, I'm looking for a registry sort of pattern where the modules implemented in the directory follow a certain pattern and my main code and execute the interface with a certain input. The modules would take forward from there and return the value/output. Can you provide an example? You mentioned "the one db/sl implements"? Which one?
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2021-05-13 08:59:25	edrocks	absk007 you end up having a file with a bunch of imports to auto register the sub directories as interface implementations upon init()
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2021-05-13 08:59:52	edrocks	db/sql is an example and the image format packages also do something similar
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2021-05-13 09:02:52	uskerine	how do I convert int to time.Month?
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2021-05-13 09:03:53	KirkMcDonald	uskerine: time.Month(x)
2021-05-13 09:04:06	KirkMcDonald	time.Month is just an int to start with. So you can just use a conversion.
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2021-05-13 09:30:46	uskerine	can I initialise a slice of structs of capacity and length n to 0 values?
2021-05-13 09:31:09	uskerine	so, if i do mySlice := make([]myStruct, 100, 100), what I am actually doing?
2021-05-13 09:31:35	uskerine	am I allocating capacity for 100 elements but the length of the slice is still 0?
2021-05-13 09:33:38	KirkMcDonald	No, that will have a length of 100.
2021-05-13 09:33:53	uskerine	well actually I do mySlice := make(myStruct, 100, 100) it tells me cannot make type myStruct
2021-05-13 09:34:09	KirkMcDonald	Correct. make() does not work with a struct.
2021-05-13 09:34:25	KirkMcDonald	make works with slice, map, and channel types.
2021-05-13 09:35:10	KirkMcDonald	https://golang.org/ref/spec#Making_slices_maps_and_channels
2021-05-13 09:35:15	uskerine	so mySlice := make([]myStruct, 100, 100) creates a slice of type []myStruct which already contains 100 elements, if I do mySlice[0] that is valid, right?
2021-05-13 09:35:21	KirkMcDonald	Yes.
2021-05-13 09:35:26	uskerine	ok understood, thanks
2021-05-13 09:35:37	KirkMcDonald	Note that this is equivalent to make([]myStruct, 100)
2021-05-13 09:35:48	KirkMcDonald	(If you don't give a capacity, it is equal to the length.)
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2021-05-13 09:53:09	uskerine	I have a struct and I would like to fmt.Print as json, where shall I start looking/googling?
2021-05-13 09:53:32	uskerine	I have a slice of structs*
2021-05-13 09:54:09	KirkMcDonald	uskerine: The encoding/json package is probably the place to start.
2021-05-13 09:54:18	sztanpet	uskerine https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/json/#example_Marshal
2021-05-13 09:57:24	uskerine	https://play.golang.org/p/qtpnGUhLNXG
2021-05-13 09:57:39	 *	uskerine is looking example Marshal
2021-05-13 09:59:53	j416	uskerine: https://play.golang.org/p/4WHv-gtpMyh
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2021-05-13 10:11:17	uskerine	j416 thanks! it is surprisingly simple
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2021-05-13 10:14:27	CoolerX	Hi
2021-05-13 10:14:51	rawtaz	yesterday we discussed closing a handle from os.FindProcess and someone pointed to a similar example at https://github.com/shirou/gopsutil/blob/master/process/process_windows.go#L224 . is it not better to syscall.CloseHandle() right after the OpenProcess, as we discussed yesterday? here they dont, they have *returning* error checking before the close, which i guess could leak. also, why do they defer it?
2021-05-13 10:15:00	CoolerX	In this code https://bpa.st/raw/7Z3Q why is the 2nd json output different from the first?
2021-05-13 10:15:09	rawtaz	s/why do they/is there any reason to/
2021-05-13 10:15:23	CoolerX	in the 2nd json output the ObjectMeta struct gets marshalled under the key `metadata`
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2021-05-13 10:15:43	CoolerX	while in the 1st json output the members of the ObjectMeta struct are embedded at the top level
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2021-05-13 10:16:37	CoolerX	This is the output https://bpa.st/raw/BWDQ
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2021-05-13 10:18:15	KirkMcDonald	CoolerX: That struct defines a json tag: https://pkg.go.dev/k8s.io/api/apps/v1#Deployment
2021-05-13 10:18:28	CoolerX	oh I found it
2021-05-13 10:18:30	CoolerX	KirkMcDonald, thanks
2021-05-13 10:19:33	CoolerX	unrelated but does the +optional comment do anything? https://github.com/kubernetes/api/blob/v0.21.0/apps/v1/types.go#L257
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2021-05-13 10:22:35	CoolerX	KirkMcDonald, oh this is why I got confused https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/apis/apps/types.go#L270
2021-05-13 10:22:49	CoolerX	the struct is defined there as well but doesn't have the struct tag
2021-05-13 10:23:39	CoolerX	but that's an internal struct
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2021-05-13 10:40:53	nezxan	small question https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P96GnP6DsS/ so variable p is a pointer to type T (therefore *main.T), but a pointer to a type by itself doesn't point to any value or struct, therefore value of p is <nil>
2021-05-13 10:41:00	nezxan	is this line of reasoning correct?
2021-05-13 10:41:36	fizzie	I'd replace the later half by "but the zero value of any pointer type is nil, so the value of p is nil".
2021-05-13 10:42:03	nezxan	fizzie: oh thanks, that does make more sense
2021-05-13 10:42:07	fizzie	`var p *T` is nil for the same reason as `var i int` is 0 and `var s string` is "".
2021-05-13 10:42:16	nezxan	yep, got you
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2021-05-13 11:36:17	Tv`	CoolerX: that +optional looks like a (misguided) kubernetes internal mechanism
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2021-05-13 11:36:26	Tv`	(it clearly doesn't belong in that comment)
2021-05-13 11:37:04	Tv`	CoolerX: kubernetes source is not great Go, and it has a ridiculous amount of internal javaesque abstractions, so this probably ties into that framework
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2021-05-13 11:59:34	dr0n	Hello, is it possible to use multiple conditions when compare if one or more elements in a slice of integers; for example
2021-05-13 11:59:58	dr0n	if number == 1 && number == 2 and number != 5
2021-05-13 12:00:12	dr0n	number is a slice
2021-05-13 12:00:15	Tv`	a number equals both 1 and 2 at the same time?
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2021-05-13 12:00:33	dr0n	number is a []int that contains 1,2,3,4 but not 5
2021-05-13 12:01:07	dr0n	sorry, let me write it down in the playground and show what i am doing
2021-05-13 12:01:27	Tv`	that's a for loop, an if for things it cannot contain, and a set of things that still must be seen
2021-05-13 12:02:02	Tv`	also please reconsider naming a slice with a singular name "number"
2021-05-13 12:02:36	dr0n	https://play.golang.org/p/Mo8sspnHBaQ
2021-05-13 12:02:59	Tv`	also, this sounds like one of those silly code exercise things, so do your own homework
2021-05-13 12:03:00	dr0n	again, part of a exercise;
2021-05-13 12:03:36	dr0n	I got stuck on that for a while, and came to ask for an advise
2021-05-13 12:03:49	dr0n	but you are right, its one of those small code exercises
2021-05-13 12:09:15	Tv`	10:01 <Tv`> that's a for loop, an if for things it cannot contain, and a set of things that still must be seen
2021-05-13 12:09:21	Tv`	telling you more would be doing your homework for you
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2021-05-13 12:11:15	dr0n	thank you!
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2021-05-13 12:11:40	dr0n	I will try it
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2021-05-13 12:13:32	fizzie	Instead of a slice, you may also find the type `map[int]bool` (or a `map[int]struct{}`) useful if you need a set of integers that conveniently supports operations such as "is this integer in it?". https://blog.golang.org/maps#TOC_4. has more detail on that.
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2021-05-13 12:16:07	dr0n	thank you fizzie ; I will read that as well
2021-05-13 12:19:23	CoolerX	Tv`, "javaesque abstractions," ?
2021-05-13 12:19:37	CoolerX	you mean wrappers?
2021-05-13 12:19:40	Tv`	CoolerX: yes, Kubernetes early days were in java
2021-05-13 12:21:12	Tv`	dr0n: yes, a set of T in Go is typically a map[T]struct{}
2021-05-13 12:21:35	CoolerX	Tv`, I think +optional thing is for documentation maybe?
2021-05-13 12:21:43	CoolerX	mark it as optional in the documentation
2021-05-13 12:21:56	Tv`	well that sure ain't a a Go convention
2021-05-13 12:22:04	CoolerX	or maybe for vscode
2021-05-13 12:22:12	CoolerX	and other editors
2021-05-13 12:22:20	CoolerX	actually gopls
2021-05-13 12:22:41	CoolerX	since it's inside a comment
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2021-05-13 12:24:03	CoolerX	Tv`, what abstraction in particular is javaesque in their code?
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2021-05-13 12:25:48	Tv`	CoolerX: that's a pretty darn big conversation, not one to be had on irc idly
2021-05-13 12:26:29	CoolerX	XD
2021-05-13 12:27:08	CoolerX	java has a lot of abstractions
2021-05-13 12:27:35	CoolerX	s/has/allows
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2021-05-13 12:47:23	nezxan	kind of a meta question, but do you have some kind of max width limit when programming and if so, set to what?
2021-05-13 12:47:33	nezxan	cause I am using 80, but I think I should up it to 100
2021-05-13 12:48:28	KirkMcDonald	I may be crazy, but I tend to use 80-column terminals, but with no actual length limit on lines.
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2021-05-13 12:51:30	bpalmer	I have no formal max width limit; in practice, most lines are below 80, and I will actively try to break lines up when they are > 100.
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2021-05-13 12:51:43	bpalmer	(when programming go, at least).
2021-05-13 12:52:05	nezxan	I write a lot of comments in my programs (as I am learning) and they are the only lines breaking the 80 barrier regularly
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2021-05-13 12:52:37	bpalmer	ah, comments, I am ruthless about keepin below 80
2021-05-13 12:53:03	nezxan	yeah should have specified
2021-05-13 12:53:06	nezxan	k, thanks
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2021-05-13 12:53:44	bpalmer	The only times I want long lines is when it's all one bit of logic and I'm fine with people only reading/scrolling to the end when they're actively considering the line.
2021-05-13 12:54:07	nezxan	I guess it makes sense, I just checked, and 80 means even with some clutter from the UI and DE you should be able to have two files side by side on a normal 1080p screen
2021-05-13 12:54:20	bpalmer	For example, suppose I happen to be calling a function with, oh, 15 parameters, and all the parameters are simple (e.g., already named variables)
2021-05-13 12:54:24	nezxan	my terminal spawn shortcut even by default spwans a terminal with width 80
2021-05-13 12:55:07	nezxan	bpalmer: makes sense
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2021-05-13 13:53:40	dunnousername	is there a way to have a main function in a package named something other than main? If my code contains multiple source files, do they all need to be package main?
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2021-05-13 13:56:34	icholy	you cannot have more than one main function in a package
2021-05-13 13:56:58	icholy	why do you want more than one main funcion?
2021-05-13 13:57:15	fizzie	It won't be the main function of a binary if it's not a function called `main` in a package called `main`, but you can of course just call any other function from main, and so spread out as much (or little) logic as you wish to other packages.
2021-05-13 13:57:41	dunnousername	I don't want more than one. I come from python, where the package is always the name of the folder, and I'm not sure I fully understand packages in go
2021-05-13 13:58:07	dunnousername	well not exactly, but it relates to filenames
2021-05-13 13:58:36	dunnousername	I wasn't sure if it was normal to have main functions in packages
2021-05-13 13:58:50	dunnousername	not sure if that makes sense
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2021-05-13 14:00:45	fizzie	That's a very Python thing, that idea of having "optional" main functions in packages that are mostly used as libraries but export some sort of functionality when executed as a program. I've not really seen that sort of thing in Go.
2021-05-13 14:01:00	dunnousername	I see.
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2021-05-13 14:02:15	dunnousername	How should I structure a project that I want to create (only) an executable binary, then? Should it all be package main, even if its multiple source files?
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2021-05-13 14:03:34	dunnousername	Oh, it looks like Go has a module system for projects. I just figured that out
2021-05-13 14:03:57	seankhliao	Go operates on a package level (all *.go files in a directory)
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2021-05-13 14:04:40	fizzie	dunnousername: The organization is kind of up to you. If no other Go code anywhere is going to depend on it, and you want a single binary, the simplest choice is to just put everything in `package main`. The main (no pun intended) alternative would be to put the main package(s) in (one or more .go file in) folders called `cmd/foo`, `cmd/bar`, which then call exported functions from other packages in the
2021-05-13 14:04:46	fizzie	repository that are not called `main`.
2021-05-13 14:05:16	dunnousername	that makes sense
2021-05-13 14:05:39	dunnousername	so is seankhliao saying that each file is not its own package, but each folder is, sort of?
2021-05-13 14:06:14	fizzie	Yes.
2021-05-13 14:06:36	dunnousername	that makes sense
2021-05-13 14:07:50	fizzie	File names within a folder are more or less ignored, except that files that end with `_test.go` aren't included in the package itself, but are tests instead. (By convention `foo_test.go` will have tests for the pieces of code in `foo.go`.)
2021-05-13 14:09:12	fizzie	https://golang.org/doc/code has an overview, though not so much about the conventional project structure but more about the basic building blocks.
2021-05-13 14:09:24	seankhliao	also the special something_platform.go
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2021-05-13 17:12:54	dr0n	if a function needs to return a variable, for example, (result string) is that automatically creates and initiates the variable
2021-05-13 17:13:05	dr0n	e.g. doing var result string
2021-05-13 17:15:32	b0nn	the variable that the function returns has to exist - whether that's from a named return, an initialisation in the body, or an initialisation in the return statement
2021-05-13 17:15:59	b0nn	I think, though, you should write a bit of code showing what you are trying to achieve, and where you're stuck
2021-05-13 17:16:23	dr0n	I couldn't resolve one of the tasks, and I found a solution that someone else's done
2021-05-13 17:16:26	dr0n	and trying to understand it
2021-05-13 17:17:42	b0nn	post it to play.golang.org ?
2021-05-13 17:18:00	dr0n	one sec
2021-05-13 17:18:22	dr0n	https://play.golang.org/p/Oo8sICQt0x6
2021-05-13 17:19:20	dr0n	p.s. again, this is not something I wrote. it's one of the solutions I found. in line 24 there is a return part of the function, but inside of the body that variable wasn't create
2021-05-13 17:19:36	dr0n	also loaded the code in the IDE, and seems it's been created under the hood
2021-05-13 17:19:50	dr0n	just wanted to double check
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2021-05-13 17:21:16	b0nn	ok, line 24 is using "Named returns"
2021-05-13 17:21:32	b0nn	https://tour.golang.org/basics/7
2021-05-13 17:22:02	b0nn	The general rule is to /not/ use the technique unless the function body is short, because of the confusion this generates
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2021-05-13 17:22:25	b0nn	named return values with naked returns :\
2021-05-13 17:23:32	dr0n	nice, got it
2021-05-13 17:23:53	dr0n	thank you b0nn
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2021-05-13 18:11:21	CommunistWolf	amazing how many features of go it's best avoiding, really
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2021-05-13 18:14:26	gpeskens	How does one initialize an C array of C structs using cgo? I need to call a C function that expects an array of N structs, and I want to wrap this
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2021-05-13 18:23:40	fizzie	A C function that expects an array of N structs usually expects a pointer to the first element of such an array, and if memory serves (assuming the C function isn't going to hold on to that pointer) that's just a matter of explicitly passing `&arr[0]` from Go, after allocating a Go array or slice as usual.
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2021-05-13 18:32:56	gpeskens	Great :)
2021-05-13 18:37:01	fizzie	Some support for that thought: https://golang.org/cmd/cgo/#hdr-Passing_pointers "Go code may pass a Go pointer to C provided the Go memory to which it points does not contain any Go pointers. -- When passing a pointer to an element in an array or slice, the Go memory in question is the entire array or the entire backing array of the slice."
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2021-05-13 19:18:44	Vaelatern	What kind of idiot mistake am I making when I get panic: runtime error: hash of unhashable type main.MyStruct ?
2021-05-13 19:19:34	CommunistWolf	the key type has to be comparable
2021-05-13 19:19:36	CommunistWolf	https://golang.org/ref/spec#Comparison_operators
2021-05-13 19:20:05	CommunistWolf	> Struct values are comparable if all their fields are comparable
2021-05-13 19:20:20	CommunistWolf	so one of the fields must not match those rules
2021-05-13 19:20:27	Vaelatern	My key type is string... my Struct has 2 fields, string and map[string]AnotherStruct
2021-05-13 19:20:46	CommunistWolf	oh, it's the value? fun
2021-05-13 19:21:05	Vaelatern	(I'm playing with bazel/fuse so they may be enforcing something on my object I'm not expecting)
2021-05-13 19:21:29	CommunistWolf	ah, probably. no idea about those
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2021-05-13 19:23:32	Vaelatern	Yeah, it seems MyStruct is used as a map key
2021-05-13 19:27:58	bpalmer	so you'll need to write a function that creates a comparable value for the MyStruct, and use that as the map key instead.
2021-05-13 19:28:47	Tv`	Vaelatern: did you mean bazil.org/fuse?
2021-05-13 19:29:06	Tv`	or bazel the build system, which i didn't know had a fuse component to it
2021-05-13 19:29:59	Vaelatern	bazil.org/fuse
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2021-05-13 19:30:14	Tv`	Vaelatern: how'd you end up with that error?
2021-05-13 19:30:18	bpalmer	actually, re-reading, it 's still not clear what is being used as a key type, since you say it's string
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2021-05-13 19:30:29	Vaelatern	Tried to store a map[string]File in my Dir struct
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2021-05-13 19:30:36	Vaelatern	So my Dir is being used as a key
2021-05-13 19:30:42	Vaelatern	in another map inside the fuse library
2021-05-13 19:31:24	Vaelatern	I've spent too long in higher level languages, and now I need a fuse system (or am choosing to implement it this way..) so here I am back in golang world :)
2021-05-13 19:32:12	Tv`	Vaelatern: ah right yeah, nodeRef does that
2021-05-13 19:32:29	Tv`	yes fs.Node needs to be valid as map key, i'm not sure if that's documented
2021-05-13 19:32:47	internut	My co-worker is digging into bazil.org/fuse
2021-05-13 19:32:56	Tv`	it's needed so when you return a Node from Lookups and such, it can recognize whether that's already known to the kernel or not
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2021-05-13 19:33:30	Vaelatern	Makes sense to me, are you a local subject matter expert on bazil.org/fuse ?
2021-05-13 19:33:53	Tv`	Vaelatern: rsc wrote the beginnings of it, i wrote the rest
2021-05-13 19:34:19	Vaelatern	So Very.
2021-05-13 19:34:35	Tv`	ah there we go
2021-05-13 19:34:38	Tv`	/ A Node must be usable as a map key, that is, it cannot be a
2021-05-13 19:34:39	Tv`	// function, map or slice.
2021-05-13 19:34:40	Tv`	documented!
2021-05-13 19:34:56	Wessie	"not my fault" - Tv`
2021-05-13 19:35:09	Vaelatern	Documented!
2021-05-13 19:35:11	Tv`	i wonder if there's a neat runtime check for that
2021-05-13 19:35:26	Tv`	i mean, apart from the panic seen
2021-05-13 19:35:57	Tv`	not that it'd really help, i wouldn't enable that code in normal operation, and filesystems are free to have as many Node implementations as they need
2021-05-13 19:35:58	Vaelatern	I've been running off of the examples though, since the documentation is either very overwhelming (every single function!) or the quickstart
2021-05-13 19:36:15	Tv`	and the mistakes will bubble up pretty quick.. though not very discoverable, perhaps
2021-05-13 19:36:51	Tv`	Vaelatern: https://bazil.org/talks/  https://github.com/bazil/zipfs  https://github.com/bazil/bolt-mount
2021-05-13 19:36:53	Wessie	does it have some type of type-cache?
2021-05-13 19:37:11	Vaelatern	Question for you: large files. Read() returns []bytes. I can't stuff a large file in there, do you just return the first N kb of the file, and then let the attr() check tell the kernel it's not the end of the file?
2021-05-13 19:37:27	Tv`	Wessie: i don't really care about types, i just call Node methods
2021-05-13 19:37:31	Vaelatern	thanks for the resources!
2021-05-13 19:38:17	Tv`	Vaelatern: https://pkg.go.dev/bazil.org/fuse#ReadRequest Offset and Size
2021-05-13 19:38:49	Tv`	Vaelatern: for seekable files, kernel won't request offsets past the file size
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2021-05-13 19:39:11	Vaelatern	so for non-seekable files I just need to mark it non-seekable
2021-05-13 19:39:25	Tv`	Wessie: what it could have is something like fusetest.CheckNode(&myNodeImplementation{})
2021-05-13 19:39:40	Vaelatern	and then just look at Size for my action
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2021-05-13 19:39:56	Tv`	Vaelatern: iirc zipfs is non-seekable
2021-05-13 19:40:33	Tv`	Vaelatern: yeah steal this: https://github.com/bazil/zipfs/blob/master/main.go#L210-L226
2021-05-13 19:41:06	Tv`	(page cache for a handle can be turned off too)
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2021-05-13 19:41:36	Vaelatern	yay! Thank you!
2021-05-13 19:42:15	Vaelatern	Page cache shouldn't matter if my content will be the same, right? Serving static-content (dynamic creation of static assets) non-seekable resources
2021-05-13 19:42:26	Tv`	yeah
2021-05-13 19:42:56	Tv`	also ain't no such thing as a dynamic static asset ;)
2021-05-13 19:43:17	Vaelatern	but I won buzzword bingo
2021-05-13 19:43:35	Vaelatern	but seriously thank you
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2021-05-13 19:45:37	Tv`	Vaelatern: also I think all you need to do is make your Node values be pointers
2021-05-13 19:49:13	Vaelatern	I ended up doing that and it fixed my Dir problem
2021-05-13 19:49:24	Vaelatern	now I'm playing with successfully dereferencing that for Lookup
2021-05-13 19:53:45	Vaelatern	yay!
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2021-05-15 11:20:24	fizzie	nezxan: Well, your MyStruct is reasonable enough, I guess. If you happened to have an "error code" made out of two integers. You'd just be sure to use `&MyStruct{0, 1}` instead of `MyStruct{0, 1}` when you want a literal that can be returned from a function with an `error` return type. And it'll work as expected then (formatted using that Error method and so on).
2021-05-15 11:20:36	kinduff	hello, im looking for good resources to use go as a web server, including serving html, css, js, etc.
2021-05-15 11:20:56	kinduff	i'm wondering if these static files are usually compiled into the binary
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2021-05-15 11:23:20	fizzie	nezxan: Here's something between what you wrote and that Tour example which might be a borderline reasonable custom error type: https://play.golang.org/p/AoF9G6i3YMz
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2021-05-15 11:26:37	bookworm	kinduff: depends how many / how big and how static they are
2021-05-15 11:27:08	bookworm	if they change frequently, embedding them into the binary can be suboptimal
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2021-05-15 11:27:24	bookworm	if it's a simple control interface for some backend thing, sure why not
2021-05-15 11:30:19	kinduff	thanks bookworm, do you think it's worth to do a full blown web app using go? im taking a look into some frameworks
2021-05-15 11:30:29	kinduff	but im wondering if go really shines as an API instead
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2021-05-15 11:30:52	bookworm	go doesn't particularly care what you use ;) humans do
2021-05-15 11:31:22	bookworm	there are multiple camps, some say don't use any framework, other say use helpers (gorilla/mux etc) and others say reinvent the wheel
2021-05-15 11:31:29	bookworm	pick your favorite camp
2021-05-15 11:31:57	bookworm	ehm, forgot to add the use framework people but you get the gist
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2021-05-15 11:32:31	bookworm	I'd go with the middle ground, use a proper router but don't go into a framework that is very opinionated
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2021-05-15 11:34:28	kinduff	makes sense, hard for me since i come from RoR, gotta remove that mvc paradigm from my head for a bit
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2021-05-15 11:35:59	jemaclus	kinduff: my full-time job for the last four years has been building backend services in Go for web/mobile apps. It's very suitable for it.
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2021-05-15 11:36:43	kinduff	jemaclus, that's nice! only apis?
2021-05-15 11:37:53	jemaclus	well, everything that supports a web app. APIs, CLI tooling, background worker job type things
2021-05-15 11:37:56	jemaclus	but yes
2021-05-15 11:38:46	kinduff	interesting, are there many companies that are built using go?
2021-05-15 11:39:01	bookworm	it depends no what you call a "web app".... keep in mind both server side rendering and client side rendering are a thing
2021-05-15 11:39:20	bookworm	many kinduff
2021-05-15 11:39:39	jemaclus	Tons and tons.
2021-05-15 11:39:44	bookworm	but honestly, just pick a language that you like...
2021-05-15 11:40:33	bookworm	really any modern language can do a webserver these days, python, ruby, go, rust, php, perl... take your pick. As long as you are comfortable using them they don't differ much
2021-05-15 11:40:33	jemaclus	When I started at my company 4 years ago, we were a RoR shop, and I was the only engineer that knew Go. I built the first Go microservice, kinda blew their minds, and now the entire company of 200+ engineers writes in Go.
2021-05-15 11:40:44	kinduff	yeah, i have over 10 years of experience with ruby, node, python, php
2021-05-15 11:40:55	jemaclus	Nothing wrong with Ruby or Python or PHP, though. If you dig it, go for it. But I think Go is the most fun to write, so it's the one I write the most.
2021-05-15 11:41:00	kinduff	but now that ive been doing some stuff with go, it's starting to interest me
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2021-05-15 11:41:18	jemaclus	Yeah, I wrote PHP and Ruby for 10 years before I picked up Go.
2021-05-15 11:41:21	kinduff	jemaclus, that's pretty nice!
2021-05-15 11:41:37	bookworm	php is lots of things, nice isn't one of them :P
2021-05-15 11:41:51	kinduff	haha here we go
2021-05-15 11:43:50	jemaclus	I didn't say it was nice :) But the recent versions are as close to "nice" as PHP has ever been.
2021-05-15 11:44:53	kinduff	+1
2021-05-15 11:46:02	jemaclus	if you do come from an OOP background, there are some hurdles to learning Go. It took me probably 6 months to wrap my head around "the Go way"... but now I look at OOP and i'm like "wtf are those bozos thinking" :)
2021-05-15 11:46:33	jemaclus	well, should clarify that OOP is a perfectly valid paradigm... I just prefer more functional programming these days.
2021-05-15 11:47:37	kinduff	haha i agree, i'm still trying to figure out stuff in go, like packages, how the funcs are written, modularization, etc
2021-05-15 11:47:59	kinduff	i just did a refactor on this repo https://github.com/kinduff/csgo_exporter, its the first project ive written in go
2021-05-15 11:48:07	kinduff	and a prometheus exporter is always fun to do :P
2021-05-15 11:49:37	betawaffle	I’m really looking forward to generics
2021-05-15 11:49:56	betawaffle	Also pretty exited about what’s coming in 1.17
2021-05-15 11:51:37	jemaclus	Generics aren't that compelling to me. I mean, I welcome them, but I haven't run into the head-banging frustrations that everyone else seems to run into without generics. It'll be interesting to see how it changes things for me.
2021-05-15 11:53:08	betawaffle	I’d like a better heap. container/heap is so awkward.
2021-05-15 11:53:19	jemaclus	kinduff: what do you use that for?
2021-05-15 11:53:25	jemaclus	oops, didn't mean to tag you kinduff
2021-05-15 11:53:31	jemaclus	betawaffle: what do you use container/heap for?
2021-05-15 11:53:58	betawaffle	Merging sorted iterators, mainly.
2021-05-15 11:54:31	jemaclus	interesting.
2021-05-15 11:54:33	betawaffle	But I usually end up copying the code and doing it all fresh.
2021-05-15 11:55:10	betawaffle	(Because it’s such an awkward interface)
2021-05-15 11:56:13	betawaffle	With generics, it could be implemented in a more sensible way.
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2021-05-15 19:51:39	ahmedm5083	this isn't necessarily a go-specific question but I want to make something that can find the shortest path back to a word in a dictionary using its definition. e.g. trouble: "difficulty or problems", "public unrest or disorder", "cause distress or anxiety to" -> problems: "...something characterized by trouble" -> trouble if that makes sense
2021-05-15 19:51:47	ahmedm5083	I'm wondering what the best way to implement something like this is
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2021-05-15 19:57:44	bookworm	use an NLP toolkit
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2021-05-15 19:58:21	bookworm	the AI people have several of those tools for machine reading of text sources, sentiment analysis and stuff
2021-05-15 19:58:34	b0nn	ahmedm5083: You're going to need to index the definitions
2021-05-15 19:58:45	b0nn	Instead of the words being the index
2021-05-15 19:58:54	ahmedm5083	bookworm: that's a bit overkill for what im trying to do I feel
2021-05-15 19:59:16	b0nn	And you're going to need to be able to handle the fact that the definitions you have will not be worded in the same order as the ones provided
2021-05-15 19:59:56	b0nn	eg. trouble: "difficulty or problems" OR "problems or difficulty"
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2021-05-15 20:00:53	b0nn	I mean, you could word soup the definitions and check the search terms match a % of the word soup definition for a word
2021-05-15 20:01:27	ahmedm5083	b0nn: as in which definitions point to which words?
2021-05-15 20:02:03	b0nn	eg tokenise "problems or difficulty" to "problems" and "difficulty" and then when you search the defintions you note that the supplied terms match 100% of the deifnition for "trouble" (sans stop words)
2021-05-15 20:02:08	b0nn	yes
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2021-05-15 20:04:08	ahmedm5083	hm I was thinking of doing that initially. my plan was to have something like trouble: "problems", "difficulty" then look at both "problems" and "difficulty" and see what they point to, etc. until I get back to "trouble", but that could be very inefficient
2021-05-15 20:04:27	b0nn	You have to index the definitions because otherwise your search ould be "Is the search term equal to the def for 'a', no, then does it match 'aardvark', wtc
2021-05-15 20:05:07	ahmedm5083	I see
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2021-05-15 20:05:17	b0nn	It will be iniefficient, because the next problem is that we're only talking about exact word matching
2021-05-15 20:05:57	ahmedm5083	but I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by index the definitions
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2021-05-15 20:06:18	b0nn	When you search for something, what are you searching?
2021-05-15 20:07:09	ahmedm5083	for the initial word
2021-05-15 20:07:15	b0nn	You store all of your data in a massive - I dunno, database, or tree, or map, whatever flkoats your boat
2021-05-15 20:07:23	ahmedm5083	right
2021-05-15 20:07:39	b0nn	But you don't search that big blob of data, you search the index
2021-05-15 20:07:44	ahmedm5083	right
2021-05-15 20:07:57	b0nn	and you create indexes from the definitions
2021-05-15 20:08:55	b0nn	The definitions being (for trouble) "Problem or difficulty"
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2021-05-15 20:09:11	b0nn	You can omit the 'or' from your search, that will be a stop word
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2021-05-15 20:09:36	b0nn	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_word
2021-05-15 20:09:56	jemaclus	yeah, by "indexing" you're basically saying something like "trouble" => ["problem difficulty", "public unrest disorder", "cause distress anxiety"]
2021-05-15 20:10:15	jemaclus	eliminating stop words (words that are so common as to not mean anything)
2021-05-15 20:10:29	jemaclus	so then when someone types in "trouble" you already have a list of results
2021-05-15 20:10:49	ahmedm5083	okay I see yes I thought you meant the opposite
2021-05-15 20:10:51	ahmedm5083	something like
2021-05-15 20:10:57	b0nn	he wants to go the other way, someone provides the definition and he retrieves the word that matches that def
2021-05-15 20:11:02	ahmedm5083	"problem, difficulty" => "trouble"
2021-05-15 20:11:03	jemaclus	Typically, the index matches documents rather than strings, so you'd say: document 1 is "problem difficulty" and document 2 is "public unrest disorder" and doc 3 is "cause distress anxiety", and then your index is "trouble" => [1,2,3]
2021-05-15 20:11:13	jemaclus	yeah, same principle, just the other way around
2021-05-15 20:11:42	jemaclus	so you tokenize whatever it is you want to search, drop the stop words, and create the index (in the search world they're called "postings")
2021-05-15 20:11:44	ahmedm5083	b0nn: i misunderstood you :P i thought you meant do it the other way around
2021-05-15 20:12:11	b0nn	FWIW you're going down a very deep rabbit hole
2021-05-15 20:12:17	jemaclus	yup.
2021-05-15 20:12:19	jemaclus	this is not trivial.
2021-05-15 20:12:39	jemaclus	(my day job is as a search engineer, though I'm a manager these days.)
2021-05-15 20:12:53	ahmedm5083	hm
2021-05-15 20:13:05	b0nn	And (AIUI) nobody has yet found the bottom (the problem being synonyms and meaning of words are not understood by computers at all at the moment)
2021-05-15 20:13:36	jemaclus	yup ^
2021-05-15 20:13:42	b0nn	Start with word soup (that's how sapm is detected
2021-05-15 20:13:47	b0nn	spam
2021-05-15 20:14:07	ahmedm5083	ah I'm not trying to get the computer to understand anything
2021-05-15 20:14:10	jemaclus	like, there's a big difference between "red wine" and "red wine vinegar", for example... but computers aren't very good at figuring that out.
2021-05-15 20:14:39	ahmedm5083	https://www.sixdegreesofwikipedia.com just implement something like this but with dictionary words
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2021-05-15 20:15:33	ahmedm5083	though i dont have much experience with searching tbf
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2021-05-15 20:17:08	b0nn	Ack, I meant "Bag of words" when I said "Word soup"
2021-05-15 20:17:20	b0nn	https://medium.com/swlh/spam-filtering-using-bag-of-words-aac778e1ee0b
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2021-05-15 20:18:46	b0nn	I think I hate the internet - the javascript on that page is actively preventing me from copying a paragraph and pasting it here
2021-05-15 20:19:21	b0nn	(I'm having similar problems with reddit's javascript, and facebook's - neither are letting me do simple things)
2021-05-15 20:19:48	chilversc	that's strange, I don't have issues with those sites, maybe you have a browser plugin that's mis-behaving?
2021-05-15 20:20:10	chilversc	or just a browser that's misbehaving
2021-05-15 20:20:25	b0nn	It's the javascript and the devs that wrote it
2021-05-15 20:20:47	b0nn	Or, more correctly, the product managers that told the devs what to create
2021-05-15 20:21:17	chilversc	I can highlight and copy text from medium and reddit
2021-05-15 20:21:26	b0nn	eg. Facebook alerts me to the fact that I have been mentioned in a thread, and links me to - some random unconnected point in a 10k comment thread
2021-05-15 20:22:07	b0nn	That page I just linked to, can you highlight and copy a paragraph? Medium will only let me tweet or highlight, and demands I create an account to do either
2021-05-15 20:22:29	b0nn	ahmedm5083: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bag-of-words_model
2021-05-15 20:24:20	chilversc	I can highlight fine and copy paragraphs
2021-05-15 20:27:45	b0nn	https://imgur.com/a/PkGOn8H
2021-05-15 20:27:57	b0nn	That's what I get
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2021-05-15 20:33:24	ahmedm5083	b0nn: yes I can
2021-05-15 20:35:17	ahmedm5083	though the medium page is using *150* mb of ram
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2021-05-16 00:31:52	b0nn	Is there a dynamic way to discover (the names of) the three types that this struct uses - or do I need to explicitly add them (perhaps to another field)
2021-05-16 00:35:11	bpalmer	reflect.TypeOf(s).Field(0).Type.Name()
2021-05-16 00:35:31	b0nn	for each?
2021-05-16 00:36:01	bpalmer	Sure. Instead of Field(0), change the number, or loop through NumFields
2021-05-16 00:36:15	b0nn	I mean, how do I ensure that the Idx field types are ignored, but the three first ones are checked (and when I add/subtract, how do I make sure that's handled properly)
2021-05-16 00:36:50	b0nn	Do I have to make sure that a naming convention is adhered to?
2021-05-16 00:37:01	bpalmer	Maybe a struct tag. Not entirely sure what you're doing.
2021-05-16 00:37:40	bpalmer	Many of the go reflection-based APIs rely on naming conventions + struct tags to override the defaults.
2021-05-16 00:37:51	b0nn	I want to know the names of - Organisations, Users, and Tickets, and any other type like those when they're added (or removed) from that struct
2021-05-16 00:38:08	b0nn	ok, tags might be the go
2021-05-16 00:38:44	bpalmer	I don't know what struct you're talking about. Perhaps it's lost in the backscroll.
2021-05-16 00:39:25	b0nn	oh, didn't I paste it https://play.golang.org/p/HHYTpAaWhZA
2021-05-16 00:41:16	bpalmer	OK. In that case, a struct tag establishin the binding, and a default convention so you don't have to go wild with struct tags, is the way I would go.
2021-05-16 00:41:39	b0nn	Got an example of what you mean?
2021-05-16 00:42:01	bpalmer	although since youy'd be wantin gto keep them in sync, you'd be going through getters and setters, so you could just validate it by hand
2021-05-16 00:42:20	bpalmer	unless you're writing an arbitrary validation library.
2021-05-16 00:44:31	bpalmer	So you're doing something like func (d Data) SellTicket(t Ticket) { d.Organizations[t.Organization.Name] = t.Organization ; d.OrgIdx[t.User][t.Ticket] = t.Organization; ... } , right?
2021-05-16 00:44:47	b0nn	I am thinking that I have a loader function where data is loaded into the struct, so I will add a "adds its name to the pot or it gets the slam" function
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2021-05-16 01:45:56	jemaclus	Honestly, this just seems like you're trying to smush dynamic language features into a static typed language. One of my general rules of thumb is that if I have to break out the reflect package, i've probably made a big mistake somewhere.
2021-05-16 01:46:54	jemaclus	Another general rule of thumb is that if I have nested slices or maps 2+ levels deep, i've also probably made a huge mistake somewhere :)
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2021-05-16 02:37:24	b0nn	jemaclus: so, those complex map[string]map[string]object types are - as hopefully implied by the naming - indexes
2021-05-16 02:38:18	b0nn	The problem being 'solved' is three (or more) sets of data, held in json, are to be searchable on each field
2021-05-16 02:39:28	b0nn	that is, Organisations is a struct of n fields, Tickets, m fields, and Users l fields, and I am supposed to be able to search for the struct that has a field with a value of x
2021-05-16 02:40:02	b0nn	and, on top of that, I will need to search for 'related' objects (I *think* that there's a field that denotes relations)
2021-05-16 02:40:33	b0nn	This was homework for a job that I was given (the hw, not the job) in January, and I blew it with linear search
2021-05-16 02:41:11	b0nn	So, in my own time, I am trying to find a better way to do it, and indexes is what I currently think is the optimal way
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2021-05-16 02:48:26	explodes	WEBSOCKETS aka how to fill your normal with more stuff and make it less good.
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2021-05-16 03:05:50	rairden	Should I be using ioutil.ReadDir or os.ReadDir to sort files by modification time? Pprof is telling me the newer DirEntry is 10x slower, but my code probably sucks.
2021-05-16 03:08:12	b0nn	That's curious - show code on play.golang.org? (Also, I'd look at Benchmark testing over pproff)
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2021-05-16 03:11:37	rairden	yeah, here is what I was using. https://play.golang.org/p/JBVdG1mFdId
2021-05-16 03:15:23	rairden	You cant edit the the playground and keep the same URL, can you?  Was just going to show running cmd "go test playground -bench=. -benchtime=1x" on 1000 files was 24 ms vs 376 ms.
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2021-05-16 07:18:18	hoodedfigure	Hey, I'm new to go. I pulled an example using `go get`. Where is it usually stored?
2021-05-16 07:21:32	bookworm	depends on your go version, ~/go/pkg/mod in recent versions (if you use modules)
2021-05-16 07:22:10	bookworm	generally if you just want to get the code, use git, not go get
2021-05-16 07:22:25	hoodedfigure	bookworm: haha, ok thanks. I was looking for a hidden directory like ~/.go and couldn't find one...
2021-05-16 07:22:56	betawaffle	also, the code in there is read-only, so you'll want to use git if you want to make changes
2021-05-16 07:23:10	bookworm	or overwrite the restriction :P
2021-05-16 07:23:20	bookworm	doesn't make sense though, I agree
2021-05-16 07:23:25	betawaffle	i wouldn't recommend that
2021-05-16 07:23:49	hoodedfigure	Thank you, I will keep that in mind :)
2021-05-16 07:24:02	betawaffle	hoodedfigure: it's stored in $GOPATH, which defaults to ~/go
2021-05-16 07:24:25	betawaffle	for modules mode, it would be under $GOPATH/pkg/mod
2021-05-16 07:24:40	bookworm	in other words what I just said...
2021-05-16 07:24:44	betawaffle	yep
2021-05-16 07:25:09	hoodedfigure	it is actually the $GOPATH/bin dir I am looking for xD
2021-05-16 07:26:37	bookworm	that's populated with go install generally, not go get. At least on recent go versions... there's some confusion which subcommand does what exactly that they're cleaning up
2021-05-16 07:26:55	bookworm	>go get to build and install packages is deprecated
2021-05-16 07:27:05	hoodedfigure	The README said "just go like `go get $this` and then execute `this`" but that only works if you have it in yourt $PATH :D
2021-05-16 07:27:06	bookworm	release notes of go 1.16
2021-05-16 07:27:22	bookworm	yes, generally readmes get outdated quickly ;)
2021-05-16 07:28:48	hoodedfigure	Actually I pulled the fyne demo. is that in your oppinion the current way-to-go gui toolkit?
2021-05-16 07:29:03	bookworm	one of them
2021-05-16 07:29:19	bookworm	there's no such thing as *the* toolkit
2021-05-16 07:29:26	hoodedfigure	ofc not :D
2021-05-16 07:29:27	bookworm	go isn't really good at UI stuff to be fair
2021-05-16 07:29:44	bookworm	but it has like many other things bindings to the usual qt / gtk stuff
2021-05-16 07:30:07	bookworm	then there's fyne (opinonated) and goiui or whatever the name is (more low level)
2021-05-16 07:30:36	hoodedfigure	I am looking for a x-plattform toolkit for an optional GUI to a cmd app
2021-05-16 07:30:40	bookworm	gio*
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2021-05-16 07:31:25	bookworm	if all else fails, just shove it in a webapp instead ;)
2021-05-16 07:31:38	hoodedfigure	I don't want to depend on GTK or even Qt
2021-05-16 07:31:45	bookworm	fair
2021-05-16 07:31:51	hoodedfigure	AND it should not be yet nother Electron app
2021-05-16 07:32:05	bookworm	who said electron?
2021-05-16 07:32:19	bookworm	web app can work with the already installed browser just fine... pwa
2021-05-16 07:32:35	hoodedfigure	Yeah, but it should work as a standalone app
2021-05-16 07:32:44	bookworm	yes, pwa
2021-05-16 07:32:56	bookworm	but I know what you mean
2021-05-16 07:33:05	bookworm	without first going through the normal browser to install I guess
2021-05-16 07:33:08	hoodedfigure	PWA is not that widely adopted (yet)
2021-05-16 07:33:40	bookworm	in which world do you life? iOS? because on all other non apple platforms it works just fine, typing this from a pwa actually
2021-05-16 07:33:44	hoodedfigure	Firefox (desktop) discontinued the development if I remember correctly
2021-05-16 07:33:49	bookworm	live*
2021-05-16 07:34:21	bookworm	🤷‍♂️ bug in FF
2021-05-16 07:34:44	bookworm	btw, gio is https://gioui.org/
2021-05-16 07:35:06	hoodedfigure	thanks ^
2021-05-16 07:35:08	hoodedfigure	^ ^
2021-05-16 07:35:10	bookworm	the problem I have with fyne is t hat the UI looks non native on all platforms
2021-05-16 07:35:22	bookworm	for them it's a feature, for me a bug
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2021-05-16 07:35:27	hoodedfigure	Quassel does not seem to be good with emojies btw
2021-05-16 07:36:00	hoodedfigure	it looks like a "ghost male" what you sent
2021-05-16 07:36:28	hoodedfigure	ah, it was a shrug ^^
2021-05-16 07:36:51	albertito	hoodedfigure: depending on what your ui needs to do, running "mytool web" and have that open an http server on localhost to offer a light ui might be a good tradeoff
2021-05-16 07:37:20	bookworm	I mean if you want to go for a proper application go for it
2021-05-16 07:37:42	bookworm	there are some nifty features such as you don't need to write effing javascript if you go that route ;)
2021-05-16 07:38:09	hoodedfigure	I think I'm going with fyne for a prototype
2021-05-16 07:38:57	hoodedfigure	You have to start somewhere
2021-05-16 07:39:07	bookworm	indeed
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2021-05-16 07:40:25	hoodedfigure	on the other hand, how would you start with a web app? are there different go-wise frameworks of do you start the same way and then choose angular, vue, etc?
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2021-05-16 07:42:03	bookworm	depends on whether you want to do static pages (server rendered) or dynamic fancy things, the latter needs js and probably something like vue if you don't want to reinvent the wheel yes
2021-05-16 07:42:19	bookworm	if you are fine with static pages, html/templates is neat
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2021-05-16 07:42:46	bookworm	you can naturally provide some interactivity by embedding js into the templates
2021-05-16 07:44:32	bookworm	the difference is that with server side rendering you do the logic on the server, then serve the pages (which leads to page refresh events, which may be jarring) and on client side rendering you basically write a json api in go for the backend and then the UI stuff in js, which means you can update the DOM more seamlessly without refreshing the
2021-05-16 07:44:32	bookworm	page
2021-05-16 07:45:04	hoodedfigure	I think I would go with a classic RESTful api
2021-05-16 07:45:49	hoodedfigure	Pushing some JSON objects to the browser and doing calculations there
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2021-05-16 07:47:39	hoodedfigure	Do you think this is still an up-to-date starting point?
2021-05-16 07:47:40	hoodedfigure	https://golangdocs.com/golang-web-application
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2021-05-16 07:53:29	hoodedfigure	I see, it's time to nibble some go-nuts. You all went to lunch? xD
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2021-05-16 07:55:16	a2800276	github.com/gotk3/gotk3 worked well for me in the past for gtk bindings. Takes some getting used to though. Don't expect any gui lib to be particularly stable :)
2021-05-16 07:55:44	kinduff	what do you think about passing a config struct as a param for all subsequent functions in a CLI app?
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2021-05-16 07:56:14	kinduff	the alternative being, on every call, passing only the params the func really needs
2021-05-16 07:56:22	kinduff	which is more verbose but is more clear
2021-05-16 07:56:31	j416	might as well put the config in a struct and have the functions be methods on that
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2021-05-16 07:58:44	kinduff	hm, but that would make the config the one responsible for everything
2021-05-16 07:59:18	bookworm	^ the method part
2021-05-16 07:59:34	bookworm	no, you'd have an app struct that contains the config
2021-05-16 07:59:42	bookworm	you wouldn't attach the logic to the config itself
2021-05-16 08:00:04	kinduff	struct driven development
2021-05-16 08:00:10	kinduff	i kinda like that
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2021-05-16 08:00:20	bookworm	where's that blog post...
2021-05-16 08:00:33	bookworm	https://medium.com/@matryer/how-i-write-go-http-services-after-seven-years-37c208122831
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2021-05-16 08:00:48	bookworm	^ that, doesn't just apply to handlers but is a general pattern
2021-05-16 08:00:55	kinduff	lets see, thanks!"
2021-05-16 08:01:55	bookworm	hoodedfigure: not particularly fond of sites that try to look like "official" ones, but sure. Pick up any book / bloc on go web dev and follow that to some extend
2021-05-16 08:02:40	bookworm	you can also have a look at cobra... iirc they do a similar thing with their commands, though I could be wrong as I don't use it myself
2021-05-16 08:03:04	crashoverride	go is 7 years old?
2021-05-16 08:03:11	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I thought there was something fishy about golangdocs...
2021-05-16 08:03:14	crashoverride	ah no, was in 2018
2021-05-16 08:03:15	crashoverride	ok.
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2021-05-16 08:09:54	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I'm currently trying to figure out how to create a sensible module structure, defining and importing (sub)modules. Do you always need to install them or can you import them by relative path somehow?
2021-05-16 08:10:23	bookworm	no to relative paths, but why do you want to do that?
2021-05-16 08:10:43	bookworm	if you have submodules of the same package, just use them normally
2021-05-16 08:11:05	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I want to e.g. separate business logic and frontend
2021-05-16 08:11:16	bookworm	if you want to hack on multiple modules at the same time you need to use something like replace directives
2021-05-16 08:11:50	bookworm	sure, but assuming that's the same language just make a package out of it
2021-05-16 08:13:26	hoodedfigure	bookworm: thanks, I got confused with modules/packages
2021-05-16 08:13:42	bookworm	well, I didn't express myself well either...
2021-05-16 08:14:20	bookworm	>if you have submodules of the same package, just use them normally <-- should have said f you have sub packages  of the same module, just use them normally
2021-05-16 08:15:21	bookworm	hoodedfigure: https://github.com/miniflux/v2
2021-05-16 08:15:23	bookworm	for example
2021-05-16 08:16:53	hoodedfigure	bookworm: so if I have packages main and foo, how would I call function bar of package foo from main?
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2021-05-16 08:17:24	bookworm	foo.$function, then let go imports (or well, gopls) do its job and add the import
2021-05-16 08:17:27	hoodedfigure	do you import packages?
2021-05-16 08:17:30	bookworm	https://github.com/miniflux/v2/blob/master/cli/cli.go
2021-05-16 08:17:35	bookworm	look at that for example
2021-05-16 08:18:07	bookworm	config / database / logger / storage et al are all sub packages of the same module
2021-05-16 08:18:21	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I see, you you import "xy/foo"
2021-05-16 08:18:31	bookworm	miniflux.app is just the fancy import name for vanity's sake
2021-05-16 08:18:51	bookworm	yes, but normally you don't need to worry at all about imports, we have tooling for that
2021-05-16 08:19:15	bookworm	there are cases when the tooling gets confused, generally though it works very well
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2021-05-16 08:22:16	hoodedfigure	bookworm: so say I went `go mod init xy/foo` and created a package bar as file 'bar/bar.go'.
2021-05-16 08:22:16	hoodedfigure	Then I would import "xy/bar" in 'foo.go',package main?
2021-05-16 08:22:52	hoodedfigure	or do you need to put them all into the same directory (no sub-directories allowed)?
2021-05-16 08:22:56	bookworm	xy/foo/bar
2021-05-16 08:24:02	hoodedfigure	bookworm: thanks, wokrs now xD
2021-05-16 08:24:13	hoodedfigure	*works
2021-05-16 08:24:56	hoodedfigure	Sorry for the n00b questions
2021-05-16 08:25:10	bookworm	no worries, no need to feel sorry for
2021-05-16 08:25:22	bookworm	we all start somewhere
2021-05-16 08:25:32	hoodedfigure	<3
2021-05-16 08:27:46	hoodedfigure	bookworm: are you a developer of miniflux?
2021-05-16 08:27:59	bookworm	no but I use it and it has a sane structure
2021-05-16 08:28:23	bookworm	and it was the first web app that came to my mind that's written in go
2021-05-16 08:29:07	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I would have went with Gitea :D
2021-05-16 08:29:07	hoodedfigure	But I don't know about the code structure
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2021-05-16 08:34:59	hoodedfigure	I wand to decode a huge JSON file – possibly infinitely long, so I don't want to read it all into memory.
2021-05-16 08:34:59	hoodedfigure	Is there a way to process it on-the-go like a stream editor would?
2021-05-16 08:35:34	j416	hoodedfigure: https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/json/#example_Decoder
2021-05-16 08:35:56	j416	if that's what you mean
2021-05-16 08:36:12	bookworm	that will read it all into memory
2021-05-16 08:36:19	j416	no?
2021-05-16 08:36:43	bookworm	you decode into "m"
2021-05-16 08:36:53	bookworm	> the json may be infinitly long
2021-05-16 08:37:07	bookworm	(which is a design mistake, granted)
2021-05-16 08:37:22	j416	if it's a single json object that's infintely long, then yes of course
2021-05-16 08:37:32	hoodedfigure	Not actually infinite ofc but severy hundred megs
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2021-05-16 08:37:38	hoodedfigure	*several
2021-05-16 08:37:40	bookworm	in one object?
2021-05-16 08:37:45	bookworm	or in multiple objects?
2021-05-16 08:37:53	bookworm	json needs to be parsed per object
2021-05-16 08:38:22	bookworm	you don't know if the thing is valid until you close the object
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2021-05-16 08:38:58	j416	above json package also has a tokenizer, so could use that.
2021-05-16 08:39:08	hoodedfigure	It is one big object with an enormous list of sub-objects
2021-05-16 08:39:31	j416	hoodedfigure: an object or array?
2021-05-16 08:39:50	hoodedfigure	Object with a list as an attribute
2021-05-16 08:39:53	j416	an example would help
2021-05-16 08:40:28	j416	if it were ndjson it'd be a poc
2021-05-16 08:40:28	hoodedfigure	I could  probably parse the file and strip the root object
2021-05-16 08:41:03	bookworm	can't you filter the json server side?
2021-05-16 08:41:42	hoodedfigure	I pull a third-party object
2021-05-16 08:41:49	hoodedfigure	from MediathekView project
2021-05-16 08:42:02	bookworm	that doesn't answer the question ;)
2021-05-16 08:42:13	hoodedfigure	I think you can find examples here: https://archiv.mediathekview.de/
2021-05-16 08:42:52	bookworm	ehw, I see what you mean
2021-05-16 08:43:34	bookworm	but to be honest, the file size is always approximately equal... you should be able to load this into memory
2021-05-16 08:43:54	hoodedfigure	Files start with "{"Filmliste":[...]" and usually kill your text editor xD
2021-05-16 08:44:28	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I want to be able to parse it e.g. on a Raspi
2021-05-16 08:44:52	hoodedfigure	very limited memory environments
2021-05-16 08:44:55	bookworm	even a rpi has a few gigs of ram
2021-05-16 08:45:10	hoodedfigure	Well, mine has 512MB I think
2021-05-16 08:45:22	bookworm	what do you want to do with the json in the end?
2021-05-16 08:45:38	bookworm	you might get away with tokenizing and just extracting what you need on the fly
2021-05-16 08:45:40	hoodedfigure	It should go e.g. into a SQLite db
2021-05-16 08:46:04	j416	jq ?
2021-05-16 08:46:14	j416	just an idea. not sure how it handles flattening.
2021-05-16 08:46:14	hoodedfigure	I want to iterate over the "Filmliste" array and parse it into a database
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2021-05-16 08:48:08	bookworm	WTF... who wrote that thing?
2021-05-16 08:48:24	bookworm	they made an object that repeatedly overwrites the same map keys
2021-05-16 08:48:25	hoodedfigure	gojq or MediathekView?
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2021-05-16 08:50:30	j416	lol
2021-05-16 08:51:03	bookworm	that confuses jq, you only get the last iteration
2021-05-16 08:51:48	bookworm	however programmed that should be fired immediately
2021-05-16 08:52:01	bookworm	json has arrays for gods sake, use them
2021-05-16 08:52:19	j416	might want to hint to the author that this is a weird way to write json
2021-05-16 08:52:19	bookworm	whoever*
2021-05-16 08:54:28	hoodedfigure	bookworm: are you inspecting the filmliste thingy?
2021-05-16 08:54:44	bookworm	yes
2021-05-16 08:55:12	bookworm	that's a horrible way to expose things as json
2021-05-16 08:55:24	bookworm	it's valid according to the spec, but horribly stupid
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2021-05-16 08:56:52	j416	well valid, with a grain of salt I'd argue
2021-05-16 08:57:13	bookworm	that one should have simply been disallowed in the json spec
2021-05-16 08:57:19	bookworm	not sure what they were thinking
2021-05-16 08:57:24	j416	one could have hoped
2021-05-16 08:57:41	bookworm	"flexibility"
2021-05-16 08:57:42	bookworm	or some such
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2021-05-16 08:58:08	j416	oh it does explicitly allow it; never thought of reading the actual spec
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2021-05-16 08:58:20	j416	just the simplified one at json.org
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2021-05-16 08:58:33	j416	> The JSON syntax does not impose any restrictions on the strings used as names, does not require that name strings be unique, and does not assign any significance to the ordering of name/value pairs.
2021-05-16 08:58:54	hoodedfigure	bookworm: how did you go for inspecting the file?
2021-05-16 08:59:08	bookworm	less
2021-05-16 08:59:17	hoodedfigure	xD
2021-05-16 08:59:24	j416	vim worked with some effort
2021-05-16 08:59:35	bookworm	took too long for me, tried to syntax highlight it
2021-05-16 08:59:37	bookworm	gave up
2021-05-16 09:00:36	hoodedfigure	bookworm: even `less` pushes it trhough thick syrup on my machine
2021-05-16 09:00:44	bookworm	really?
2021-05-16 09:01:04	bookworm	ah, yes. I see what you mean
2021-05-16 09:01:09	bookworm	scrolling takes a while
2021-05-16 09:01:13	hoodedfigure	yeah xD
2021-05-16 09:01:22	bookworm	first screen was enough for me ;)
2021-05-16 09:02:40	hoodedfigure	I first tried head but it's just one line of text xD
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2021-05-16 09:03:12	j416	use fold, makes it easier on the pagers/vim
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2021-05-16 09:03:33	j416	<2021-01-01-filme fold | less
2021-05-16 09:03:49	bookworm	neat tip, thanks
2021-05-16 09:04:00	bookworm	but the other way around ;)
2021-05-16 09:04:03	bookworm	fold $file
2021-05-16 09:04:11	bookworm	not $file fold
2021-05-16 09:04:22	j416	that's not what I wrote, but whichever you preer.
2021-05-16 09:04:24	j416	prefer*
2021-05-16 09:04:44	bookworm	oh, I see, shell redirection, not irc quoting ;)
2021-05-16 09:05:04	j416	:)
2021-05-16 09:05:04	bookworm	funny placement though, most people I've seen put the cmd first
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2021-05-16 09:05:52	j416	I just write it in whichever order seems easier (things I may want to change I try to keep near the end of the line)
2021-05-16 09:06:09	j416	also I've a habit of cat'ing everything; < is a bit closer to that
2021-05-16 09:06:20	j416	I mean, the order
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2021-05-16 09:06:40	j416	I still end up doing <foo | less
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2021-05-16 09:07:12	hoodedfigure	bookworm: so can you tell me again what is wrong with the JSON structure?
2021-05-16 09:07:48	j416	for one, it has duplicate keys in the object, which, while allowed by the JSON spec, isn't very easy to handle
2021-05-16 09:08:48	bookworm	normally you'd have it this way: `{ "Films": [{"Title": "whatever", "year": 2021}, {"Title": "other", "year": 1800} ] }`
2021-05-16 09:09:05	bookworm	meaning you simply have an array of objects that all look the same
2021-05-16 09:09:08	j416	or even just without the wrapping object, for this size
2021-05-16 09:09:14	bookworm	Or that
2021-05-16 09:09:40	bookworm	which would actually be the better approach
2021-05-16 09:09:42	j416	(like in the example from the json package docs linked above)
2021-05-16 09:09:46	bookworm	then you could actually stream the thing
2021-05-16 09:09:47	avoozl	to just fix things on the cli, jq in --stream mode can actually get the values for the duplicate key names, but it is a bit cumbersome
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2021-05-16 09:10:15	j416	avoozl: heh, was playing with that. did you figure out a nice way to get it into a useful format from that?
2021-05-16 09:10:49	bookworm	hoodedfigure: meaning it would look like `{"Title": "whatever", "year": 2021} {"Title": "other", "year": 1800}` usually with a newline between the objects
2021-05-16 09:10:59	avoozl	j416: you have to split the array and then use from_entries to recombine it back into dicts I think
2021-05-16 09:11:14	avoozl	j416: didn't dive in too deeply, but know I spent a good few hours a while ago doing something similar
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2021-05-16 09:13:26	j416	it kind of looks like this is a CSV or such, shoehorned into ad-hoc JSON
2021-05-16 09:13:34	bookworm	yep
2021-05-16 09:13:37	bookworm	in a bad way too
2021-05-16 09:13:48	bookworm	they could've just provided the csv
2021-05-16 09:13:55	bookworm	would be much easier to parse
2021-05-16 09:13:59	j416	indeed
2021-05-16 09:14:15	fizzie	Re why it looks like that, I would imagine it's to save the space that would be lost for repeating the field titles a billion times.
2021-05-16 09:14:20	bookworm	but that tells you that this is basically just dump and throw it over the fence
2021-05-16 09:14:21	avoozl	j416: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36956590/json-fields-have-the-same-name gives some thoughts on how to proceed on the jq way, but it isn't pretty
2021-05-16 09:14:22	fizzie	There's even a word for that, which escapes me right now.
2021-05-16 09:14:28	bookworm	they don't use the file themselves
2021-05-16 09:14:37	j416	avoozl: ye, saw that one
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2021-05-16 09:15:07	j416	giving up on this; not worth the effort
2021-05-16 09:15:27	bookworm	fizzie: and that would have been fine, just put some meta information somewhere how to parse the structs, then use arrays
2021-05-16 09:15:30	avoozl	agree. we always say.. fix DQ issues as close to the source as possible
2021-05-16 09:17:29	fizzie	bookworm: I mean, that's kind of what it looks like to me, except the metadata is those two fixed "Filmliste" entries, and the data arrays are those labeled with "X". But yeah, I don't think it's helping anyone's life to wrap that whole thing in a JSON-like structure.
2021-05-16 09:18:11	bookworm	yes, no parse that with any default json decoder... most of them won't be happy with the duplicated keys
2021-05-16 09:18:15	bookworm	now*
2021-05-16 09:18:33	fizzie	(Earlier files had newlines, by the way. Or at least the 2015 one I looked at first.)
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2021-05-16 09:20:37	hoodedfigure	Damn, I wanted to start hacking on my prototype and fell into the rabbit hole
2021-05-16 09:21:25	j416	:D
2021-05-16 09:26:40	fizzie	I imagine you could make it work if you have a stream-oriented and/or a pull parser instead of the usual kind.
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2021-05-16 09:29:02	hoodedfigure	Experimenting with some sed-magic
2021-05-16 09:29:31	j416	not sure which document is to be seen as the truth
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2021-05-16 09:29:54	j416	but at least RFC 8259 recommends that keys be unique -> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8259#section-4
2021-05-16 09:29:58	j416	fwiw
2021-05-16 09:30:41	hoodedfigure	There are indeed serious security flaws related to duplicate JSON keys
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2021-05-16 09:32:55	hoodedfigure	Imagine one using different parsers and interpret {username: "foo", username: "root"} or something
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2021-05-16 09:49:18	bookworm	j416: the magic SHOULD
2021-05-16 09:49:18	bookworm	meaning, feel free to ignore it but at your peril
2021-05-16 09:49:27	j416	indeed :/
2021-05-16 09:50:33	bookworm	hoodedfigure: you can do it in pure go too, but you need to drop down to the token level
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2021-05-16 09:51:24	bookworm	and then hope that the file is valid, because presumably you don't want to try to check if the json is actually valid and just extract the data as you go
2021-05-16 09:52:04	hoodedfigure	bookworm: This turns it into CSV:
2021-05-16 09:52:04	hoodedfigure	sed 's|\(\],\"X\":\[\)|\n|g; s|.*Filmliste\":\[||; s|\]\}||;'
2021-05-16 09:53:12	bookworm	:D
2021-05-16 09:53:16	bookworm	give up, use fork
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2021-05-16 09:54:04	bookworm	https://i.redd.it/ijjaj2wl37241.jpg
2021-05-16 09:55:00	hoodedfigure	I like chopsticks :(
2021-05-16 09:56:38	hoodedfigure	Now I need to find out how to use sed in pure go, right? xD
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2021-05-16 09:57:19	bookworm	the easy way? os.Exec
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2021-05-16 09:57:59	bookworm	shove the network request into a decompress reader and give that reader to the stdin of the os.Command
2021-05-16 09:58:53	hoodedfigure	I think that will do xD
2021-05-16 09:58:53	hoodedfigure	Wound not run on any non *nix system though
2021-05-16 09:59:03	bookworm	true
2021-05-16 09:59:06	bookworm	but you said pi
2021-05-16 09:59:20	bookworm	and if you run windows on that thing you are doing it wrong
2021-05-16 10:00:19	hoodedfigure	I would like to make it available for other people as well if it works to my satisfaction
2021-05-16 10:00:40	bookworm	ah
2021-05-16 10:02:02	hoodedfigure	*when, hopefully
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2021-05-16 10:26:58	j416	lol chopsticks
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2021-05-16 10:33:09	hoodedfigure	I feel painfully slow. Could you sketch how to read from URL directly into compress/gzip:Reader and output into stdin for os/exec ? :D
2021-05-16 10:33:32	bookworm	it's not gzip, it's xz
2021-05-16 10:33:52	hoodedfigure	oh, right
2021-05-16 10:33:53	bookworm	least on the link you posted
2021-05-16 10:34:40	hoodedfigure	is there native xzip support, too?
2021-05-16 10:34:48	bookworm	not in the stdlib
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2021-05-16 10:37:51	hoodedfigure	OK, nvm XZ now. I just pipe it into shell xzcat then
2021-05-16 10:38:02	bookworm	https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/ulikunitz/xz for instance
2021-05-16 10:38:28	bookworm	https://pkg.go.dev/search?q=xz has a bunch of them
2021-05-16 10:40:47	hoodedfigure	Could you draft these steps: Download URL into stdin of os/exec and iterate throu stdout line-by-line?
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2021-05-16 10:43:25	fizzie	hoodedfigure: Something along these lines: resp, err := http.Get(...); decompressed, err := xz.NewReader(resp.Body); cmd := exec.Command(...); cmd.Stdin = decompressed; stdout, err := cmd.StdoutPipe(); err := cmd.Start(); /* read lines from stdout */
2021-05-16 10:43:40	fizzie	Preferrably with a little more error handling.
2021-05-16 10:43:45	bookworm	^ htat
2021-05-16 10:44:29	bookworm	right, not os, exec.Command
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2021-05-16 10:45:50	since_	+ (defer) reader.Close()
2021-05-16 10:46:31	bookworm	resp.Body.Close too
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2021-05-16 10:48:11	hoodedfigure	can you defer two calls?
2021-05-16 10:48:25	fizzie	You'll probably want a cmd.Wait() in there somewhere as well, to check whether the command errored out. And for reading lines from the stdout, there's bufio.NewScanner, which will split by line by default, so a `for scanner.Scan() { line := scanner.Text(); ... }` makes a nice read-by-line loop.
2021-05-16 10:48:27	bookworm	you can defer a lot of calls, not sure there's a hard limit
2021-05-16 10:48:32	bookworm	it's a stack of functions
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2021-05-16 10:50:01	hoodedfigure	pretty neat
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2021-05-16 10:53:38	hoodedfigure	do you usually call `defer reader.Close()` directly after creating the reader?
2021-05-16 10:53:53	bookworm	after checking the error
2021-05-16 10:54:10	bookworm	because if you have an error, reader is probably nil and then the defer would panic
2021-05-16 10:54:15	bookworm	well, might
2021-05-16 10:54:16	bookworm	depends
2021-05-16 10:54:45	hoodedfigure	aight, thanks
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2021-05-16 10:56:10	hoodedfigure	should I introduce a bytes.Buffer somewhere?
2021-05-16 10:58:58	bookworm	\
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2021-05-16 10:59:28	bookworm	you can do it once, although some packages might add their own
2021-05-16 10:59:33	bookworm	and you don't want to double buffer
2021-05-16 11:00:47	bookworm	and I guess you mean bufio instead?
2021-05-16 11:01:21	bookworm	bytes.Buffer is a thing that let's you read stuff into memory
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2021-05-16 11:01:26	bookworm	lets*
2021-05-16 11:01:50	bookworm	bufio buffers a read or write and can enhance performance, depending
2021-05-16 11:04:34	bookworm	and net/http already buffers the network request for you
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2021-05-16 11:06:28	fizzie	os/exec, when reading from a non-file Stdin, will use io.Copy, which will already use an internal reasonably-sized buffer, so you don't need to explicitly add buffers between the decompressor and the external command either.
2021-05-16 11:06:52	fizzie	(Likewise on the other side if you're using a bufio.Scanner to read the lines.)
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2021-05-16 11:09:57	bookworm	well, in this case the line count is 1
2021-05-16 11:10:18	bookworm	ah, nevermind it's after the sed
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2021-05-16 11:16:24	fizzie	By the way, some of the earlier files did have newlines between each "row", you might want to test-drive your sed expression on those too.
2021-05-16 11:16:28	hoodedfigure	is this necessary?
2021-05-16 11:16:28	hoodedfigure	defer stdout.close()
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2021-05-16 11:18:47	hoodedfigure	How does this look for you?
2021-05-16 11:18:47	hoodedfigure	https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3b41ec44/
2021-05-16 11:19:54	hoodedfigure	there is something amiss about the errch
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2021-05-16 11:20:50	bookworm	http.Get takes a string, not a url.URL
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2021-05-16 11:21:18	bookworm	the compiler should have yelled at you
2021-05-16 11:21:52	hoodedfigure	I'm sure it will
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2021-05-16 11:22:53	bookworm	stdin := resp.Body is wrong too
2021-05-16 11:22:59	bookworm	you want cmd.Stdin
2021-05-16 11:24:23	hoodedfigure	resp.close and resp.Body.close  areundefined
2021-05-16 11:24:28	bookworm	also, you don't need to do everything in the background ;) one op can be done in main
2021-05-16 11:24:41	bookworm	sure, because it's Close()
2021-05-16 11:24:44	bookworm	not close()
2021-05-16 11:25:16	hoodedfigure	do you get verbatim strings somehow to avoid \\\\\?
2021-05-16 11:25:16	bookworm	in go all methods you can call from external packages are capitalized, as they need to be exported for you to use them outside of the package their declared in
2021-05-16 11:26:22	hoodedfigure	so capital functions are public and lower-case is private?
2021-05-16 11:26:28	bookworm	yes
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2021-05-16 11:26:48	bookworm	and you could use `` instead of the "" to get what you want I think
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2021-05-16 11:30:03	hoodedfigure	Like this?
2021-05-16 11:30:04	hoodedfigure	cmd.Stdin := resp.Body
2021-05-16 11:32:04	hoodedfigure	I don't know how to connect resp.Body and cmd.StdinPipe()
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2021-05-16 11:32:49	bookworm	no, not :=, =
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2021-05-16 11:34:18	hoodedfigure	OK, how does this look now?
2021-05-16 11:34:18	hoodedfigure	https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e6f08b71/
2021-05-16 11:34:41	bookworm	well, does it compile? Does it work?
2021-05-16 11:34:53	hoodedfigure	1. yes, 2. on it
2021-05-16 11:36:52	hoodedfigure	it executes but does nothing
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2021-05-16 11:37:16	bookworm	you don't need to close stdout
2021-05-16 11:37:25	bookworm	that's handled for you when the command exits
2021-05-16 11:38:07	bookworm	and you didn't show the full program did you? you are missing main and the package declaration
2021-05-16 11:38:11	shtr0m	Anyone know if there is a go test vim compiler out there? Coming up with a proper errorformat is harder than I thought.
2021-05-16 11:38:27	bookworm	shtr0m: vim-go
2021-05-16 11:38:36	bookworm	you can grab the stuff you need from there
2021-05-16 11:39:13	hoodedfigure	bookworm: I omitted `package mtlib`
2021-05-16 11:39:18	bookworm	hoodedfigure: show the full program
2021-05-16 11:39:32	shtr0m	bookworm: Thanks!
2021-05-16 11:39:35	bookworm	as is you aren't waiting for anything to complete, the function just returns and that's it
2021-05-16 11:40:27	bookworm	and any program that is actually generating an executable is in package main
2021-05-16 11:40:56	bookworm	everything else is a library as far as go is concerned
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2021-05-16 11:41:22	hoodedfigure	bookworm: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0346de25/
2021-05-16 11:41:39	bookworm	pro tip: use the playground :)
2021-05-16 11:41:52	bookworm	yeah that can't work
2021-05-16 11:42:05	bookworm	that's the usual rookie mistake we all make at one point in our go career
2021-05-16 11:42:15	hoodedfigure	:D
2021-05-16 11:42:28	hoodedfigure	Hey, it's my first day!
2021-05-16 11:42:59	bookworm	you do everything in a goroutine, yet nothing waits for those go routines to complete.... meaning main() starts the work in Download(), that returns, main has nothing to do and returns (aka program exit)
2021-05-16 11:43:18	bookworm	so the goroutines that would like to do the work get killed
2021-05-16 11:43:56	bookworm	for now, just put everything in main() then do the bufio.Scanner loop directly in main
2021-05-16 11:44:06	bookworm	you can restructure later
2021-05-16 11:44:52	hoodedfigure	`go func() {` calls a separate thread a.k.a. goroutine?
2021-05-16 11:45:02	bookworm	not a thread no, but a go routine yes
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2021-05-16 11:45:38	bookworm	it's not quite the same, although for your purposes think of it as "run in the background", whatever that means in time
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2021-05-16 11:46:01	bookworm	all of them may run on a single os thread if that's all you have
2021-05-16 11:46:47	bookworm	go will spawn threads whenever it needs to (blocking syscalls or some other io)
2021-05-16 11:47:00	hoodedfigure	hooray, it spouts ascii now \o/
2021-05-16 11:47:25	bookworm	if you are interested in the scheduler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRO5WQGh0k
2021-05-16 11:47:43	bookworm	there are multiple gophercon talks about how goroutines work under the hood
2021-05-16 11:49:37	SoF	where do I put integration tests of my whole library, a subpackage specifically for testing, or in the root next to mylib.go as mylib_test.go?
2021-05-16 11:50:04	bookworm	up to you, go doesn't care
2021-05-16 11:50:13	SoF	where should I*
2021-05-16 11:50:19	SoF	but I take it there's no convention, thanks
2021-05-16 11:50:20	bookworm	you should probably guard them with a build tag though
2021-05-16 11:50:30	bookworm	you don't want to run them whenever you call go test
2021-05-16 11:51:34	bookworm	it depends on who you ask, do you prefer your shed red or blue?
2021-05-16 11:51:48	bookworm	in the end, does it really matter?
2021-05-16 11:53:12	bookworm	go time (podcast) recently had a discussion about testing and one of the hosts preferred to make a completely separate application for the integration tests, not even putting it into the core repo
2021-05-16 11:53:25	bookworm	so there are several opinions out there
2021-05-16 11:53:27	SoF	interesting.
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2021-05-16 11:56:30	hoodedfigure	bookworm: Now to put my code into a separate function/package. What do I have to heed when calling Download()?
2021-05-16 11:57:24	bookworm	you need to be able to tell the caller when you are done... so either make it synchronous (if it returns it's done) or return a channel that gets closed when the work is done
2021-05-16 11:57:37	bookworm	choice is up to you
2021-05-16 11:58:30	bookworm	if you keep it synchronous it's easier, let main handle the background stuff
2021-05-16 11:58:45	bookworm	generally, only spawn go routines if you have to
2021-05-16 12:00:08	bookworm	in your case you that's just the command and that's done by the exec package
2021-05-16 12:00:33	hoodedfigure	so if I don't spawn routines it is automatically synchroneous?
2021-05-16 12:00:42	bookworm	yes
2021-05-16 12:01:26	hoodedfigure	aren't there any keywords to mark a function async or so?
2021-05-16 12:01:40	hoodedfigure	it might be easiert to read later
2021-05-16 12:01:46	bookworm	every go routine that you spawn is async until you synchronize it somehow
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2021-05-16 12:03:20	bookworm	some packages have both, sync and async versions. Look at your code: You have cmd.Start(), which is the async version. You then eventually need to call cmd.Wait() to wait for completion.
2021-05-16 12:03:38	bookworm	then there's cmd.Run(), which does that for you, meaning it only returns once the cmd exited
2021-05-16 12:06:43	hoodedfigure	when I put the working, synchronous code into a separate function and call that from main() it never terminates
2021-05-16 12:07:15	bookworm	then you must be waiting for something to happen
2021-05-16 12:07:29	bookworm	meaning there's a bug in your code
2021-05-16 12:07:37	bookworm	not closing a reader or something like that
2021-05-16 12:10:05	hoodedfigure	bookworm: should I not see some logs, anyhow?
2021-05-16 12:10:14	bookworm	why?
2021-05-16 12:10:32	bookworm	ah, you mean your calls to log
2021-05-16 12:10:35	bookworm	where's your recent code?
2021-05-16 12:10:46	bookworm	the one you are trying to run?
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2021-05-16 12:14:10	hoodedfigure	I moved the code back into main package and now it works
2021-05-16 12:16:28	hoodedfigure	But as soon as I put it into "package mtlib" and main calls "mtlib.Download()" instead of "Download()" it stops working
2021-05-16 12:16:54	bookworm	show the non working code
2021-05-16 12:17:15	bookworm	my crystal ball is broken and my binoculars not quite good enough to read your small font size
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2021-05-16 12:20:13	hoodedfigure	bookworm: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/347c8425/  https://paste.debian.net/hidden/57fbd519/
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2021-05-16 12:24:46	hoodedfigure	I killed booworm :(
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2021-05-16 12:25:23	hoodedfigure	wb, bookworm
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2021-05-16 12:50:47	hoodedfigure	bookworm: thank you for your help
2021-05-16 12:50:47	hoodedfigure	all of you, this is a nice and friendly community. thank you!
2021-05-16 12:51:17	bookworm	hoodedfigure: sorry, was busy with trying to figure out why the fuck my NAS stopped working
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2021-05-16 12:51:50	hoodedfigure	bookworm: no worries, I will just put it all into a gig main.go xD
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2021-05-16 12:51:55	hoodedfigure	*big
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2021-05-16 12:55:52	hoodedfigure	I have learned some valuable go essentials today
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2021-05-16 12:56:38	hoodedfigure	I will come back to hang around when I have some free time to hack on the project
2021-05-16 12:57:00	hoodedfigure	until then, stay healthy!
2021-05-16 12:57:12	bookworm	o/
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2021-05-16 17:55:23	dr0n	Hello, This obviously is not working, I but thought I could use this syntax
2021-05-16 17:55:33	dr0n	https://play.golang.org/p/FaCm81QoFKg
2021-05-16 17:56:08	dr0n	am I using the correct data structure
2021-05-16 17:56:31	Tv`	dr0n: you seem to be confusing the slice with the structs inside the slice
2021-05-16 17:56:55	Tv`	you're trying to assign a string slice to each slice item
2021-05-16 17:57:10	Tv`	while the slice expects a struct with fields number and letters
2021-05-16 17:57:33	Tv`	also you can't use both var and :=, := is a shortcut for var
2021-05-16 17:58:53	Tv`	based on the data you have (missing indices), maybe you wanted dataset := map[int]string{1: "A, E, I, O, U, L, N, R, S, T", 2: "D, G" and so on
2021-05-16 17:59:05	Tv`	(you probably don't really want those commas and spaces inside the string, either)
2021-05-16 17:59:54	Tv`	the for loop and the if inside look just weird, and don't communicate enough of your intent to be sure what you want
2021-05-16 18:00:26	Tv`	err it seems like you want a score for each letter, and the result is sum of scores for every letter?
2021-05-16 18:00:35	dr0n	Tv`:  just to answer what my intention was, I am trying to 'add' the number depends on what letter is being matched
2021-05-16 18:00:56	dr0n	for example; if 'A' is matched it will be 1; if D 2; then 1+2
2021-05-16 18:01:23	Tv`	that's scores := map[rune]int{'A': 1, 'D': 2}; result := 0; for _, r := range word { result += scores[r] }
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2021-05-16 18:15:11	dr0n	Tv`:  Thansk!
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2021-05-16 18:20:33	dr0n	I will play a bit to see if I can progress any further
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2021-05-16 21:53:07	b0nn	seebs: How does someone use gerrit to see changes as they are happening?
2021-05-16 21:53:36	b0nn	There's no (public?) link to a diff to look at
2021-05-16 21:54:04	b0nn	oh, never mind - it's labelled as the name of the file
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2021-05-16 22:36:22	seebs	i have no clue how to use gerrit to see anything :)
2021-05-16 22:38:00	b0nn	It's not the most intuitive thing I've ever seen :)
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2021-05-16 23:16:37	ente_	has anyone ever done bulk inserts to sqlite using database/sql and go get github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3
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2021-05-17 04:50:29	neckutrek	What's the simplest way of converting a TimeUnix type to a date formatted string in a .gohtml template?
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2021-05-17 07:10:41	sztanpet	whats a timeunix type?
2021-05-17 07:11:20	sztanpet	whats a .gohtml template, is it just template/html?
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2021-05-17 07:13:02	sztanpet	if so, define your function that does the formatting when parsing your templates, see https://golang.org/pkg/text/template/#FuncMap
2021-05-17 07:13:04	vtx	hi folks o/ is there a recommended way to compare two numerical interface{} types? is there a library or something that i should be using? i guess what i want is a library that can do gte or an lte on an int64 and a float64, or a uint16 and an int etc, and error if either type is non-numerical. i feel like this is something that might have already been solved by someone else?
2021-05-17 07:15:03	sztanpet	sounds like trying to make dynamic typing work
2021-05-17 07:15:24	sztanpet	you will have a bad time, i doubt theres any "recommended" way
2021-05-17 07:19:34	vtx	hmmm okay; i'm thinking what would be the best type that all other types could be converted to without a loss of precision? float64?
2021-05-17 07:19:43	andlabs	sztanpet: and if it's just time.Time then you already have access ot its methods if you expose it directly in the text/template
2021-05-17 07:20:14	andlabs	vtx: what are you trying to accomplish by doing this
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2021-05-17 07:21:38	vtx	andlabs: i just want to compare two numerical types; i'm not sure how to deal with comparing int64 to float64 or uint16 to an int etc, other than a huge switch with another huge switch for the second operand, per case?
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2021-05-17 07:22:24	fizzie	You can't convert an int64 to a float64 without loss of precision.
2021-05-17 07:23:59	andlabs	but why do you want to do that comparison? normally you would know the type sof the things you want to compare, and (in the case of the floating types) which comparisons are safe
2021-05-17 07:24:12	SoF	I have been summoned
2021-05-17 07:25:13	vtx	normally you do but in this case i won't, so i have to work with interface{} for both operands
2021-05-17 07:27:29	andlabs	well package math/big might be your best bet there then, possibly
2021-05-17 07:28:46	andlabs	maybe keeping floats as float64
2021-05-17 07:28:48	andlabs	good luck
2021-05-17 07:30:50	laddite	hello, I have a weird case where I cannot use net.Dial for UNIX domain sockets. here's a simple reproducible example: https://pastebin.com/Yqsijzq2
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2021-05-17 07:31:55	laddite	the same thing works fine with logger -u /dev/log hello
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2021-05-17 07:36:43	dntreou	Hello everyone, I am wondering why I am unable to  do the following  type X String; y := "something"; var myapp.X = y? I am unable to complete the last statement It says that y is a *string and x is of X type
2021-05-17 07:40:25	SoF	dntreou: myapp.X(y)
2021-05-17 07:40:39	SoF	var myapp.X = myapp.X(y)
2021-05-17 07:40:48	SoF	well there's an identifier missing
2021-05-17 07:40:59	SoF	so "var yNew myapp.X = myapp.X(y)"
2021-05-17 07:41:17	SoF	at that point the compiler's gonna complain about the redundant myapp.X
2021-05-17 07:42:10	SoF	https://play.golang.org/ also you should probably paste your code in here
2021-05-17 07:42:49	dntreou	 when i run the following var who = myapp.X(someStringVariable) I get this error Cannot convert expression of type '*string' to type 'X'
2021-05-17 07:44:07	SoF	dntreou: use the playground. the code you pasted here would compile
2021-05-17 07:45:04	dntreou	https://play.golang.org/p/I31bilgiLd9
2021-05-17 07:45:41	SoF	it compiles. https://play.golang.org/p/viCu4AXM8_5
2021-05-17 07:47:16	dntreou	SoF:  this is what I actually have that y is comming from a flag https://play.golang.org/p/N2jbEIri1dZ
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2021-05-17 07:48:18	SoF	dntreou: flag returns a pointer to a string, you need to dereference it like so: https://play.golang.org/p/EDe2ygun3AR
2021-05-17 07:49:25	SoF	but make sure you look at some examples using the 'flag' package, you need to flag.Parse before you dereference iirc
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2021-05-17 07:51:57	dntreou	Reading now, that dereference did work you were right also
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2021-05-17 08:04:30	laddite	figured it out, needed to use unixgram instead of unix
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2021-05-17 08:25:45	hoodedfigure	Hey guys, is there a way to use an log.Logger like an io.Writer?
2021-05-17 08:26:37	hoodedfigure	I want to pass the logger to an os.exec so that it prefixes the output with Date/Time and tag
2021-05-17 08:27:41	l0k0	is log.Logger an interface?
2021-05-17 08:28:05	hoodedfigure	No, I mean an instance
2021-05-17 08:30:20	l0k0	https://golang.org/pkg/log/#New If you made that a multireaderwriter you could pass data to print through the second writer in it, the other one to the logger
2021-05-17 08:31:54	l0k0	or write a custom reader/writer implementation (you could use close to shut it down making it a readerwritercloser)
2021-05-17 08:33:20	hendry	how come #%.3x prints 6 hex characters? shouldn't "3" mean... three? https://play.golang.org/p/AHV0kLSGRP9
2021-05-17 08:35:33	l0k0	@hoodedfigure you need a protocol for end of statement/message so the handler knows what is what when the buffer happens to have several messages waiting
2021-05-17 08:36:38	l0k0	if you are interested I wrote a bundle of bits that gives you a friendly, highly configurable logging system with source location
2021-05-17 08:36:53	l0k0	it of course has a check function for errors
2021-05-17 08:37:50	l0k0	it can direct to any kind of reader, uses a generator and some git library to scan the repository to get the details for how to split the source to the repo root (so hyperlinking needs to know that)
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2021-05-17 08:39:37	hoodedfigure	l0k0: when you say 'bundle of bits', is that a go-specific term or just slang?
2021-05-17 08:40:10	sztanpet	hendry make sure to closely read the docs https://golang.org/pkg/fmt/ %x	base 16, lower-case, two characters per byte
2021-05-17 08:41:10	sztanpet	hendry .3x means print 3 bytes, hex encoded and that is exactly what happens
2021-05-17 08:43:03	l0k0	@hoodedfigure just because it's only just getting close to stable
2021-05-17 08:43:43	l0k0	it has interchangeable writer and a channel that sends log entries to, presumably, network or storage handlers
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2021-05-17 08:44:55	hoodedfigure	l0k0: thank you, I think the priority is not so high on my side so I will just log directly to stdout – unprefixed for now.
2021-05-17 08:45:33	l0k0	I recommend using os.Stderr, use os.Stdout only for stuff that you want to pass through pipes
2021-05-17 08:46:40	l0k0	i mean yes, you *can* catch stderr in a pipe but the syntax is ugly and unmemorable
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2021-05-17 08:48:00	l0k0	yeah the caveat to my package is that you have to import it into each package so I do that by copying the file around, but after that it's just log.E.Ln("this prints a line")
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2021-05-17 08:48:42	hendry	sztanpet: thank you
2021-05-17 08:49:33	sztanpet	hoodedfigure also, the logger is fundamentally a record based stream, and io.writer is not, you would have to specify to always pass your entire message to that writer or else be interleaved when concurrent
2021-05-17 08:49:50	hoodedfigure	l0k0: I separate go logs (stderr, default) and command logs (stdout)
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2021-05-17 13:43:10	CustosLimen	I want to do OIDC validation of JWTs, is this the best option for that: https://github.com/coreos/go-oidc?
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2021-05-17 13:45:15	siXy	I wonder what the maintenance state is of the coreos libs now RH bought it and killed it...
2021-05-17 13:46:16	siXy	ah, that one specifically looks to be maintained by some of the k8s people, so that lib should be fine
2021-05-17 13:46:48	siXy	presumably k8s relys upon it, which would be why they're maintaining it
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2021-05-17 13:55:28	Tv`	siXy: all due to be rewritten with cgo dependencies to devmapper and libbtrfs, i'm sure
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2021-05-17 13:55:50	 *	siXy grins
2021-05-17 13:56:01	Tv`	siXy: oh i forgot, Glib and OSTree
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2021-05-17 14:00:18	CustosLimen	siXy: to say RH killed CoreOS is a bit simplistic
2021-05-17 14:00:33	CustosLimen	https://getfedora.org/en/coreos?stream=stable
2021-05-17 14:00:57	Tv`	Fedora CoreOS != CoreOS
2021-05-17 14:01:19	CustosLimen	and coreos/go-oidc != CoreOS
2021-05-17 14:01:55	siXy	CustosLimen: That's a long way away from real coreos. It's only useful if you want RH's openshift, and, well, that's an.... unusual... thing to want
2021-05-17 14:03:58	CustosLimen	is there some other OIDC library to consider?
2021-05-17 14:06:37	siXy	CustosLimen: That specific lib looks a good choice, as it seems widely used and well maintained.
2021-05-17 14:06:39	avoozl	I've used https://github.com/Kopano-dev/oidc-go
2021-05-17 14:07:24	siXy	Looks like eric chiang (sp?) is doing a lot of maint on it, and he's a smart guy.
2021-05-17 14:07:26	CustosLimen	avoozl: thanks, did not see that one
2021-05-17 14:08:42	CustosLimen	coreos one looks simpler
2021-05-17 14:08:44	CustosLimen	will go for that
2021-05-17 14:09:09	avoozl	CustosLimen: it was mainly because I was integrating with other kopano stuff, so pick what suits you best :)
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2021-05-17 16:19:24	xMopx	what's the preferred go integrations for Sublime Text these days? I can't seem to find a working linter
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2021-05-17 16:36:03	b0nn	xMopx: Not sure about sublime, but the two dominant "mega-linters" are golangci-lint and staticcheck
2021-05-17 16:38:12	xMopx	thanks, staticcheck is new to me, ill check that one out too.
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2021-05-17 16:39:16	b0nn	google suggests to me that there are a few Sublime "interface plugins" for staticcheck
2021-05-17 16:39:38	 *	b0nn is a vim user so has no idea how sublime does its thang
2021-05-17 16:40:55	bsandro	i wonder if can 'marry' one of that linters to nano (>'-')>
2021-05-17 16:41:20	b0nn	sounds like a nice side project
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2021-05-17 16:42:38	bsandro	once i married nano with fzf. that turned out usable but quite abysmal :D
2021-05-17 16:44:54	b0nn	lol, I have to be honest the editor snob in me was a little ill at the first suggestion, but now you've got me wondering how far nano can be pushed
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2021-05-17 16:46:46	xMopx	the sublime plugins for go were.... shifty at best a couple years ago and im finding that they've not improved since then
2021-05-17 16:46:51	xMopx	i think it's time to switch ides
2021-05-17 16:47:21	bsandro	b0nn: i used vim/nvim for like a decade and somehow ended up with nano for now
2021-05-17 16:47:46	b0nn	xMopx: write the book you want to read - if the plugins are naff, write better ones?
2021-05-17 16:48:10	 *	b0nn shrugs
2021-05-17 16:48:49	xMopx	eh im setting up tools to go work on my actual tools, dont really feel like adding a 3rd layer of that haha
2021-05-17 16:49:47	mrig	Time for an editor written in go perhaps?
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2021-05-17 16:50:13	b0nn	mrig: govim is IIRC written in GO (wlthough it's a layer over vim)
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2021-05-17 16:51:14	mrig	ah, I've not come across that yet, will have to take a look. Though vim is in C and likely that its threads are not as nimble as those of the go run-time :)
2021-05-17 16:51:29	mrig	I think it does have them though.
2021-05-17 16:52:22	mrig	oh is that the plugin for vim, right.
2021-05-17 16:52:42	b0nn	yeah https://github.com/govim/govim
2021-05-17 16:53:12	b0nn	I've never used it - vim-go has always more than satisfied my needs
2021-05-17 16:54:15	b0nn	Although I was a bit worried when Fatih dropped support for vim-go, but someone else (I forget whoo off the top of my head) picked it back up, then I think fatih came back to the project
2021-05-17 16:55:13	b0nn	er, when I say "dropped support for" I mean, "Gave up being the maintainer" and the project was an orphan for a little whiles
2021-05-17 16:55:24	mrig	I've not tried govim and am using vim-go at the moment, might take a look though.
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2021-05-17 17:30:50	b0nn	hmm, seperation of concerns - I load data, massage it, and store it in structures - should search be in the data package, or a standalone package
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2021-05-17 19:16:54	mrus	hey there, I'm having some trouble with a html template. At the beginning of the template I have {{ $currentPage := . }} and then at some point I do {{ $currentPage.myFunc "bla" }}. How do I need to add "myFunc" to the template processor so a Go func is called for that? Seems like when I try to add it to the funcMap it doesn't work.
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2021-05-17 20:11:47	rairden	I have beginner question on control structures. If you wouldn't mind looking at these 3-4 commits. https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/2121881
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2021-05-17 20:17:55	ente_	general question: should you use goto for exiting inner + outer loop or should you use an extra bool?'
2021-05-17 20:18:07	Tv`	mrus: methods of values are fine, funcMap is for standalone functions, as in {{myFunc "bla"}}
2021-05-17 20:18:15	Tv`	ente_: break
2021-05-17 20:18:30	ente_	Tv`: but does break not only exit the innermost loop?
2021-05-17 20:18:39	Tv`	ente_: labels
2021-05-17 20:18:57	ente_	Tv`: how exactly? I have never done that I think
2021-05-17 20:19:10	b0nn	ente_: goto or bool are fine, whichever you find easier to read
2021-05-17 20:19:28	ente_	Tv`: so you 'can' use goto - people always seem to shit on using goto
2021-05-17 20:19:37	ente_	but imo this would be a useful case
2021-05-17 20:20:03	Tv`	ente_: outer: for { for { break outer } }
2021-05-17 20:20:19	ente_	Tv`: nice, I didn't know that was possible
2021-05-17 20:20:19	Tv`	https://golang.org/ref/spec#Break_statements
2021-05-17 20:20:36	ente_	thanks for the fast answer Tv`
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2021-05-17 20:39:13	rairden	that is the first time I've ever used goto. Only been using Go for a few months though.
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2021-05-17 21:10:48	b0nn	I'm doing something silly with interfaces https://play.golang.org/p/A4g5lyBaJRs
2021-05-17 21:11:49	b0nn	I cannot figure out how (line 44) to loop over the container - which is a []item (*Ticket, *User, and *Organisation all implement item)
2021-05-17 21:12:20	b0nn	If I try and assert *[]item, I get an comma, ok issue, but still cannot access the index
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2021-05-17 21:25:16	b0nn	Gah, was looking at the wrong line :\
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2021-05-17 21:34:31	explodes	https://play.golang.org/p/Lu6atxKtH-g is this bad
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2021-05-18 02:33:45	sztanpet	bad in what way?
2021-05-18 02:34:51	qrpnxz	imma say yes
2021-05-18 02:36:02	sztanpet	the language itself lets you do that so its not bad, the fact that the playground segfaulted seems also expected
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2021-05-18 02:39:45	qrpnxz	> the language itself lets you do that so its not bad
2021-05-18 02:39:45	qrpnxz	wronger words have not been spoken
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2021-05-18 02:41:40	tendime	I love this language. Been immersed in it for about a month now. It's great! Alotta C, some Java, some Python, and just all the good things from different languages. No overloading too!
2021-05-18 02:43:21	qrpnxz	yeah, it's my go-to language
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2021-05-18 02:52:04	sztanpet	qrpnxz well the better question is what would you do against it
2021-05-18 02:52:39	qrpnxz	idk wym
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2021-05-18 04:42:55	gpeskens	Could someone point me to the correct way how to reference an int (int32) in an Iovec (takes a *byte)?
2021-05-18 04:43:43	gpeskens	(i need to do syscalls that expect arguments via iovec, some of which  have string values, some of which have int32 values)
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2021-05-18 04:47:45	b0nn	gpeskens: Did you see this https://golang.hotexamples.com/examples/syscall/Iovec/-/golang-iovec-class-examples.html
2021-05-18 04:48:27	gpeskens	Yeh
2021-05-18 04:48:37	gpeskens	that's all assuming byte array as data type
2021-05-18 04:48:49	gpeskens	(which I have working fine for strings)
2021-05-18 04:49:26	b0nn	oh, and you need to pass a pointer to an int(32)?
2021-05-18 04:49:33	gpeskens	Correct
2021-05-18 04:49:47	b0nn	er, that looks like an int with a value of 32, I meant int/int32
2021-05-18 04:50:08	gpeskens	The C code I'm replacing just does base = &intval & len = sizeof(intval)
2021-05-18 04:50:31	gpeskens	That works, because in C the iovec base takes a void*
2021-05-18 04:51:05	gpeskens	But in Golang it's a *byte
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2021-05-18 04:54:42	b0nn	binary.LittleEndian.PutUint32
2021-05-18 04:55:10	b0nn	Use that to put a uint32 into your byte?
2021-05-18 04:57:00	gpeskens	Less than ideal, but better than nothing :P
2021-05-18 04:57:10	gpeskens	(I'd like it to be a true pointer, as then I can just read the int)
2021-05-18 04:57:17	b0nn	lol, I'll take that as a win :)
2021-05-18 04:57:20	gpeskens	(and ideally I don't need to think about endianness)
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2021-05-18 04:57:44	gpeskens	Though that last bit is a bit of a no-problem since 99% of the world is LE, except NBE
2021-05-18 04:58:29	b0nn	If you want a "true" pointer, you would be looking at the unsafe.Pointer I think
2021-05-18 04:58:39	b0nn	But this is well above my paygrade
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2021-05-18 04:59:38	sztanpet	dont take a pointer, that brings gc issues with it
2021-05-18 05:00:08	sztanpet	see https://golang.org/cmd/cgo/#hdr-Passing_pointers
2021-05-18 05:02:02	gpeskens	sztanpet: that's cgo, I'm doing the syscalls directly via Go, so pointers should be fine
2021-05-18 05:02:17	sztanpet	are you sure
2021-05-18 05:02:34	gpeskens	Sure about doing the syscalls directly? Yeah :)
2021-05-18 05:03:59	sztanpet	sadly i know nothing of use, might be worth looking at what the stdlib does with pointers to things
2021-05-18 05:04:06	sztanpet	and syscalls
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2021-05-18 05:25:02	betawaffle	where is the code that picks a new size when append exceeds capacity?
2021-05-18 05:27:17	sztanpet	betawaffle https://github.com/golang/go/blob/master/src/runtime/slice.go#L144
2021-05-18 05:27:28	betawaffle	thanks!
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2021-05-18 06:18:28	mrig	b0nn: I managed to get govim installed, spectacularly smooth when running.
2021-05-18 06:19:04	mrig	Had to compile vim though as my distro version was to antiquated to run it.
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2021-05-18 07:54:47	ejh	so prior to go 1.16 I could just do a go get golang.org/x/net/html to use that in a program on plan 9
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2021-05-18 08:17:13	mrig	Hello, does anyone know what the keyboard shortcut is to trigger a mouseover popup in vim?
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2021-05-18 08:26:59	mrig	sorry, should explain that this is for trying out govim :)
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2021-05-18 08:32:49	hackinghorn	I see that most outside import is from github.com. So if github goes down, lots of go code will stop functioning?
2021-05-18 08:33:25	aigoo	go mod vendor
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2021-05-18 08:39:44	mrig	vendor is a really nice addition for this, I was concerned about remote code; Solves it really well though.
2021-05-18 08:40:20	mrig	If only I could get away from cgo next, I well be FREE!!!
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2021-05-18 09:08:19	hackinghorn	so if github goes down, go mod vendor can help?
2021-05-18 09:09:55	mrig	hackinghorn: vendor keeps a local copy of all source code used in a project with that project.
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2021-05-18 09:17:31	hackinghorn	hmm, I will look into it, thankss
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2021-05-18 09:28:20	sztanpet	hackinghorn also, module proxies solves this exact problem, also the infamous javascript left-pad problem
2021-05-18 09:28:24	rudi_s	hackinghorn: Most of the time this isn't what you want.
2021-05-18 09:28:58	rudi_s	And there's already a public proxy which caches packages. So if github.com goes down nothing should happen (for cached packages).
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2021-05-18 09:29:16	sztanpet	and module proxies are by-default turned on
2021-05-18 09:29:20	hackinghorn	ah ohh, module proxies, I didnt know it
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2021-05-18 09:30:50	sztanpet	https://proxy.golang.org/ if you want more info, plenty of info is linked from there
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2021-05-18 09:33:28	hackinghorn	ahh, thanks, I will look at it
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2021-05-18 09:35:23	mrig	does setting goproxy=direct remove the slight delay that is incurred when updating remoter modules?
2021-05-18 09:35:30	mrig	I should try it and see I suppose.
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2021-05-18 09:36:28	mrig	Am curious as to the go mode tidy -e flag too, wondering if this would have helped out in a nasty cyclical error situation that I found myself in the other day.
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2021-05-18 09:37:18	mrig	I think I can checkout to that point in the code and try to do the same again, now somewhat less ignorant.
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2021-05-18 09:37:37	sztanpet	no
2021-05-18 09:37:57	mrig	no cigar?
2021-05-18 09:38:09	sztanpet	but if you look at the site i just linked, and read the FAQ, your issue is directly addressed
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2021-05-18 09:38:20	mrig	I have read that.
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2021-05-18 09:39:02	sztanpet	than sure, if as a consumer you have goproxy=direct than yes, it wont go through the proxy and thus the newest version will be fetched directly
2021-05-18 09:39:03	mrig	the issue was related to moving the name space from a git modules to simple repo transformation.
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2021-05-18 09:39:21	mrig	whilst using git vendor.
2021-05-18 09:39:35	mrig	so that's quite a lot of updating links to remember to do.
2021-05-18 09:39:53	mrig	I was nailed by the delay as I was not aware of it at that time.
2021-05-18 09:40:40	mrig	that could be a nice way to remain on the automatic versioning and still deal with errors sensibly.
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2021-05-18 09:40:54	mrig	to be switched back once bugs are ironed out.
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2021-05-18 09:44:42	mrig	Well consumers will not be changing the code one would hope, but I do see what you mean. Thanks for pointing that out; It is not one of the things that I did try, will write this up once I get a satisfactory understanding and solution to the troubles that I've had.
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2021-05-18 09:45:23	mrig	Cool system, difficult to get it smooth for every use case without the full picture.
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2021-05-18 09:56:24	littlekiwifruit	Hi, I'm trying to understand why this program isn't working as expected: https://play.golang.org/p/y0SLvKP63wA I have written a wrapper around bytes.Buffer to invoke .Write and .String on it. I am doing the same writes to both structs so I would expect the printouts at the end to be the same. Yet they are not, very puzzling
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2021-05-18 09:58:41	fizzie	littlekiwifruit: Give the `Write` method a pointer receiver, then you'll get the same output: https://play.golang.org/p/d0SjlSHCMc6
2021-05-18 09:58:41	siXy	littlekiwifruit: You need func (w *Writer) Write ... and the same for the String method
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2021-05-18 09:58:58	siXy	Otherwise you end up copying, and thus having a new buffer each time
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2021-05-18 10:00:30	littlekiwifruit	aaah good catch, thanks fizzie siXy !
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2021-05-18 10:05:03	sztanpet	littlekiwifruit use a pointer receiver
2021-05-18 10:05:44	Tv`	gpeskens: you need to convert the pointer through unsafe.Pointer from *int32 to *[4]byte
2021-05-18 10:05:49	sztanpet	littlekiwifruit see https://play.golang.org/p/0HkmAlIxZsb there were 3 changes, buf1 := &Writer{} and for the methods
2021-05-18 10:06:09	gpeskens	thx Tv :) I found the solution :)
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2021-05-18 10:13:33	littlekiwifruit	sztanpet ah neat, thanks I missed those other changes:D
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2021-05-18 10:21:15	sztanpet	littlekiwifruit also maybe this will demonstrate whats happening https://play.golang.org/p/s2adNH9AN8R
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2021-05-18 10:35:12	fizzie	There's no need to make `buf1` a pointer just to use a pointer receiver with the method.
2021-05-18 10:35:18	fizzie	(Of course you *can* if you want to.)
2021-05-18 10:36:40	dntreou	I want to build a database migrating tool, I have never created something like this in the past and I have got couple of questions.
2021-05-18 10:37:01	dntreou	do I  query my existing database get all the data in memory and then insert it in the new database?
2021-05-18 10:37:16	dntreou	is that the logic of the database migration tool
2021-05-18 10:37:17	Tv`	no
2021-05-18 10:37:37	Tv`	dntreou: also, your definition of migrate seems to be different than what most people use
2021-05-18 10:37:49	Tv`	generally, "database migration" = adjust for schema changes
2021-05-18 10:37:56	dntreou	I want to migrate my data from mongo to sql db
2021-05-18 10:38:11	Tv`	that's more like ETL, extract-transform-load
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2021-05-18 10:42:58	dntreou	Tv`: Okay so  what I described ( getting the data from one database and inserting it to the other) is an ETL
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2021-05-18 12:02:27	bloony	https://play.golang.org/p/Q6aVwkgXNM5 I though ... would unpack as so it would work like the first printMulti call.. is there a way to get this work?
2021-05-18 12:02:33	bloony	to work*
2021-05-18 12:03:34	icholy	bloony: ...I is just suggar for []I
2021-05-18 12:03:52	icholy	You can't pass []T to []I
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2021-05-18 12:04:56	bloony	icholy: I know ...I is same as []I, but I was expecting as... to unpack it so it would work as the first call to printMulti..
2021-05-18 12:06:00	icholy	bloony: it would require copying the `as` slice. Go tries to avoid hidden costs like that.
2021-05-18 12:06:33	Tv`	bloony: https://golang.org/doc/faq#convert_slice_of_interface
2021-05-18 12:08:31	bloony	Tv`: thanks
2021-05-18 12:08:44	bloony	icholy: ah I see..
2021-05-18 12:08:47	bloony	thanks
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2021-05-18 12:23:45	BenLubar	I'm trying to figure out why my game is dropping frames, and it looks like it's the garbage collector: https://share.firefox.dev/33RIXYr is there a way to do a memory profile on js/wasm?
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2021-05-18 12:30:06	Tv`	BenLubar: it's still the to gc inside wasm (for now?) so you should be able to profile it on non-wasm
2021-05-18 12:30:21	Tv`	*go gc
2021-05-18 12:31:15	Tv`	BenLubar: also encoding/binary.Read & Write are hilariously inefficient
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2021-05-18 12:33:17	BenLubar	it shouldn't be calling those during the main game loop but if it's a problem I can make specialized read functions
2021-05-18 12:34:01	Tv`	BenLubar: well they showed up in a random call stack i looked at, basically allocating slices was the reason to run the gc
2021-05-18 12:34:34	Tv`	BenLubar: i'd suggest writing benchmarks of the core loops and doing -benchmem etc on them
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2021-05-18 12:45:25	seebs	agreed. or run a profile of the thing for a given time window, and do both heap profiles (look at alloc_objects, probably)
2021-05-18 12:50:29	icholy	Tv`: RE: binary.{Write, Read} inlining + dead-code-elimination could possibly make it free for some types.
2021-05-18 12:50:37	Tv`	the really great thing about a good benchmark is that now you get to make changes + rerun, easily
2021-05-18 12:50:40	icholy	Tv`: but I'm pretty sure it exceeds the inlining budget
2021-05-18 12:50:55	Tv`	icholy: lots of calls to reflect...
2021-05-18 12:51:32	icholy	Tv`: before using reflect, it has a fast-path using only type assetions
2021-05-18 12:52:16	Tv`	icholy: yes but the typical use case is structs
2021-05-18 12:52:52	icholy	ya, true
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2021-05-18 13:43:37	ori	what's the idiomatic way to iterate on at most the first N elements of slice foo? in Python I could do `for x in xs[:N]`, but in golang if xs has capacity less than N, `for _, x := range xs[:N]` is a range error.
2021-05-18 13:44:47	aigoo	Write a function to take a slice, and return at most N. for _, x := atmost(slice, N)
2021-05-18 13:45:01	aigoo	range atmost*
2021-05-18 13:45:29	ori	ok! thanks
2021-05-18 13:45:53	aigoo	I suppose you could also make an AtMost(N) function on []SliceElement so you could do for _, x := range slice.AtMost(n)
2021-05-18 13:48:42	icholy	if len(s) > 10 { s = s[:10] }; for range s {}
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2021-05-18 14:37:46	Tv`	what icholy said
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2021-05-18 14:55:26	j416	simple wins
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2021-05-18 15:53:27	BenLubar	just following up on the garbage collector thing from earlier: I may be doomed (for now) as every js.Value.* function allocates on the heap: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/44006
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2021-05-18 17:38:37	Tv`	the hardest thing in Computer Science is knowing whether it's spelled regexp or regex this time around
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2021-05-18 17:45:19	mrig	dang, someone should regulate that expression!
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2021-05-18 18:51:47	teaspoon	Suppose I iterate over the keys of a map with `for k := range m { /* ... */ }`, and in each iteration I delete that key from the map with `delete(m, k)`. Does this guarantee that I will delete every key from the map? Or is that not guaranteed when I'm removing keys from the map while iterating over it in this manner?
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2021-05-18 18:53:28	teaspoon	Testing locally it seems that it'll always go over every key and so this will delete them all, but is there any section in the docs/spec that say that it is OK to remove from the map while iterating like this?
2021-05-18 18:56:15	aigoo	https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23229975/is-it-safe-to-remove-selected-keys-from-map-within-a-range-loop
2021-05-18 18:56:44	j416	teaspoon: I remember or perhaps misremember reading something about this, but I can't find it. This however, hints that looping over a map while deleting is fine. https://golang.org/doc/effective_go#for
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2021-05-18 18:57:46	j416	ah, in the corresponding section of the spec of course.
2021-05-18 18:58:06	j416	https://golang.org/ref/spec#For_range
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2021-05-18 19:03:27	j416	the last answer on the SO question aigoo linked presents a useful way to think about iteration. thanks for making me read that.
2021-05-18 19:03:45	j416	(quote from ianlancetaylor)
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2021-05-18 19:09:02	teaspoon	aigoo, j416: Interesting. I read that part of the spec and it doesn't explicity state that you can delete keys that have already been iterated over. It only says that if you delete a key that hasn't been iterated over yet, it won't be produced. However since it doesn't say anything _against_ deleting keys that have been iterated over, and given the example in Effective Go, I'm persuaded to think that it's
2021-05-18 19:09:04	teaspoon	safe to do so.
2021-05-18 19:09:14	teaspoon	Thanks for the help.
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2021-05-18 19:11:22	tendime	Good morning from TYO!
2021-05-18 19:11:33	b0nn	tyo?
2021-05-18 19:11:47	tendime	oh, yeah...
2021-05-18 19:11:56	b0nn	tokyo?
2021-05-18 19:11:58	tendime	8:11 here... AM
2021-05-18 19:12:01	tendime	Yes
2021-05-18 19:12:14	b0nn	it's 0912 here (AEST)
2021-05-18 19:12:45	b0nn	The main Go shop in Tokyo, that I know of, is Mercari :)
2021-05-18 19:13:03	tendime	Yes, they like it a bit.
2021-05-18 19:13:39	tendime	While Go programming is just part of what I do, happened to know that.
2021-05-18 19:13:49	b0nn	I missed a job with them about 2 years back, because I didn't have enough caching knowledge
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2021-05-18 19:14:06	b0nn	s/enough/any
2021-05-18 19:14:47	tendime	Interesting. I missed a job with them about a year back... didn't understand why. Interviewed four times.
2021-05-18 19:15:10	b0nn	Oh, they didn't provide any feedback?
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2021-05-18 19:15:38	b0nn	For me they didn't either, but it was clear to me where I had failed ... by the silence I produced when they asked me the question :)
2021-05-18 19:16:01	tendime	Nothing tangible... probably just picked a different candidate. But got busy right after that any way, so never looked back.
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2021-05-18 19:17:52	tendime	lol... I hate that feeling. Finally figured out what AEST is! Cool! Same side of the world...
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2021-05-18 19:18:53	b0nn	ha, failure doesn't phase me, as long as I know *why*, I can change that
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2021-05-18 19:19:19	b0nn	It's when there's zero feedback, or, worse, it's things I cannot change
2021-05-18 19:19:29	b0nn	Then it's bad
2021-05-18 19:20:06	tendime	Right. I would have normally fixated over the why, but for some reason, not that time. I think it was because there were a couple of options on the table at the same time.
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2021-05-18 20:15:46	qrpnxz	is there a way to check if a test already ran (and passed)? That way I can not run tests that depend on that thing working.
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2021-05-18 20:18:11	jemaclus	typically I write tests that are isolated and don't have any external dependencies... not sure...
2021-05-18 20:21:56	qrpnxz	I guess i use subtests
2021-05-18 20:22:00	b0nn	jemaclus: go test -v will tell which tests ran, and their outcome
2021-05-18 20:22:46	jemaclus	sure, but in an automated way is what I think qrpnxz is asking
2021-05-18 20:23:07	b0nn	sub tests come out as Testname/SubTest (If done correctly)
2021-05-18 20:23:38	b0nn	and you /cannot/ just run one subtest - it's all of the subtests
2021-05-18 20:23:43	b0nn	or none
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2021-05-18 20:38:19	nezxan	can I create a struct within a struct (similar to json formatting) and how could I work with that?
2021-05-18 20:38:24	nezxan	see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yNvRDB6hfW/
2021-05-18 20:38:35	nezxan	how would I give a value to Address.Street ?
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2021-05-18 20:43:59	b0nn	nezxan: Address is a struct on its own so there's a few approches: {FirstName: "John", IsAlive: true, Address: struct{Street string; City string; State string}{Street: "Mulholland Drive 2"}}
2021-05-18 20:44:44	b0nn	Or Have Address defined outside the employee struct, and Address: Address{Street: "Foo bar"}}
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2021-05-18 20:46:04	b0nn	This has an implementation of the second idea https://golangbyexample.com/nested-struct-golang/
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2021-05-18 20:46:42	b0nn	The first idea (anonymous struct) I don't know (without checking) if the annotations become an issue
2021-05-18 20:47:03	nezxan	b0nn: the second probably is best
2021-05-18 20:47:07	nezxan	b0nn: thanks a lot :)
2021-05-18 20:47:08	b0nn	er s/annotations/struct tags
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2021-05-18 22:43:00	hackinghorn	hi, if I want local import, I have to do import "./[..]" ?
2021-05-18 22:44:18	hackinghorn	sometimes, in the same project, I see they import from the remote repo like github.com/.. , not locally
2021-05-18 22:45:26	fizzie	That's not a "sometimes", it's an "almost all the time". There's no relative imports really.
2021-05-18 22:46:11	fizzie	They're still local as long as they're part of the same module, you just write out the full absolute import path.
2021-05-18 22:47:08	b0nn	hackinghorn: are you talking about modules?
2021-05-18 22:47:45	hackinghorn	eh really?
2021-05-18 22:47:57	hackinghorn	I'm not sure what im talking about
2021-05-18 22:48:58	fizzie	https://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Relative_import_paths -- there's only two ways relative import paths work: one's on the command line (and thus unrelated to imports in .go files), and the other's kind of a niche.
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2021-05-18 22:50:38	b0nn	hackinghorn: are you able to give a clearer view on what you're asking with a small bit of code on play.golang.org?
2021-05-18 22:50:39	ente_	hackinghorn: it is often easier to just use a module instead of working with relative imports in my experience
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2021-05-19 00:19:29	hackhorn	sorry I'm back
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2021-05-19 00:21:32	hackhorn	can I name my module any name if noone will import it?
2021-05-19 00:22:37	hackhorn	hmm I think so
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2021-05-19 04:10:17	b0nn	hrm, if I have a file foo/load.go and it loads files from foo/data/* it's a real PITA to have to use a different PATH when calling from cmd/main.go :\
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2021-05-19 04:11:26	b0nn	eg. in testing I can use data/file but when running from cmd/main.go I have to use a full PATH or ../foo/data
2021-05-19 04:12:18	b0nn	ack, this is what embedding is supposed to solve
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2021-05-19 07:09:44	shunkica	I'm writing a program that allows me to execute SQL-like queries on a proprietary binary file. It's basically a set of rows and columns which can be ascii chars, ints or floats. I have two problems with this: 1. the conversion of byte slices to either strings using string([]byte),ints using binary.LittleEndian and then back to string for
2021-05-19 07:09:44	shunkica	output(using itoa), or floats (using math.floatxxfrombits(binary.littleendian)) and then back to string using sprintf, is taking a lot more time than this same program written in C. I do not have the source for the program written in C but the fact that this program takes 3 seconds to select from a  300MB file, and my program takes 70 seconds for
2021-05-19 07:09:45	shunkica	this same select, tells me that I must be doing something wrong. - 2. I am storing the resulting strings in a map[Column{table string, column string}]string, and the assignment to this map takes a ridiculous amount of time sometimes ( depending on the field it takes 2x to 20x times longer than the time it takes to convert the byte slice to string )
2021-05-19 07:09:45	shunkica	- this is the function responsible for parsing the bytes: https://play.golang.org/p/ZxkfTpw8dUS
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2021-05-19 08:05:29	sztanpet	shunkica maybe this can help https://dave.cheney.net/high-performance-go-workshop/gophercon-2019.html
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2021-05-19 08:09:11	sztanpet	or in other words, profile your code to see where the bottlenecks are
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2021-05-19 08:41:36	shunkica	I managed to speed it up considerably. The problem was that I was parsing every row in its entirety, then I was applying the filters from the WHERE clause. But I really did not need to parse all the fields, only the ones from the where clause. Now I changed it to only parse the entire row if the fields from the WHERE clause match the current row
2021-05-19 08:41:37	shunkica	and got a speedup for 30x for my test select.
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2021-05-19 09:09:40	SamWhited	Hi mods; I'm sure you've heard about the libera.chat move. I've snagged #go-nuts over there, so if you end up also moving ping me on here so I can verify that you are who you say you are and I'll grant you +o there too. Thanks for stewarding this channel!
2021-05-19 09:14:35	bloony	https://play.golang.org/p/VOE3s4oE1V5 does this create the slice twice? or will it be optimized by the compiler?
2021-05-19 09:16:33	qrpnxz	gj sam
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2021-05-19 09:20:57	betawaffle	same, i also have #golang over there
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2021-05-19 10:42:04	i0x71	hey, can anyone suggest how i can get the latest version of a github package using go get, it keeps using old version. Using go 1.16.4
2021-05-19 10:42:07	i0x71	Thanks
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2021-05-19 10:44:07	fizzie	i0x71: If it's proxy.golang.org delays you're seeing, check out the first question of the FAQ section at https://proxy.golang.org/ -- specifically, it suggests requesting a specific version with the `go get ...@version` syntax, which should cause it to refresh.
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2021-05-19 10:44:54	i0x71	fizzie: hmmm, i think it may infact me a delay
2021-05-19 10:44:56	i0x71	thanks
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2021-05-19 10:46:29	i0x71	fizzie: is there a way to avoid using proxy ?
2021-05-19 10:46:56	i0x71	ah
2021-05-19 10:47:00	i0x71	GOPROXY=direct go get -u does the trick
2021-05-19 10:47:02	i0x71	thanks alot
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2021-05-19 10:48:34	hoodedfigure	Hi, with GORM: can I create a new object from struct (var obj MyObj), fill it with data (obj.Name = "foo") and write the complete object into database?
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2021-05-19 11:04:44	hoodedfigure	Is this a short notation: user := User{Name: "Jinzhu", Age: 18}
2021-05-19 11:04:44	hoodedfigure	For this?var user User; user.Name = "Jinzhu"; user.Age = 18
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2021-05-19 11:11:09	LunarAgent	LunarIRC (irc.lunarirc.net) - the friendliest IRC network around + free BNCs! We welcome retrogamers, coders and wizards. Drop by, feel at home, create and re-create channels and enjoy your stay! LunarAgent, over and out.
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2021-05-19 11:11:59	fizzie	hoodedfigure: It's really the combination of two notations: the short variable declaration, and a composite (struct) literal. But yes.
2021-05-19 11:12:39	fizzie	(You can use the two independently of each other.)
2021-05-19 11:13:19	hoodedfigure	fizzie: both will result in identically scoped, etc. variables?
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2021-05-19 11:13:32	sztanpet	tour.golang.org if in doubt
2021-05-19 11:13:43	hoodedfigure	:D
2021-05-19 11:13:45	fizzie	`user := ...` is shorthand for `var user = ...`, which is shorthand for `var user {type of the expression ...} = ...`: https://golang.org/ref/spec#Short_variable_declarations
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2021-05-19 11:14:21	hoodedfigure	Thanks, and sorry for n00b question
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2021-05-19 11:18:23	sztanpet	thats why were here, sorry for the rtfm replies :)
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2021-05-19 11:22:52	explodes	Are we moving servers?
2021-05-19 11:22:57	explodes	https://www.kline.sh/
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2021-05-19 11:27:23	sztanpet	"who cares"
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2021-05-19 11:31:22	hoodedfigure	sztanpet: if you guys point me to the relevant chapter it is always appreciated :D
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2021-05-19 11:39:28	hoodedfigure	Generics are still in the pipe or are they already released?
2021-05-19 11:40:22	hoodedfigure	Looks like they will be released later this year
2021-05-19 11:40:22	hoodedfigure	https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/generics-in-golang/
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2021-05-19 12:20:34	icholy	is there any way to get the old `godoc -template` behaviour back?
2021-05-19 12:20:54	icholy	also is anyone aware of an issue for adding -template to `go doc`?
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2021-05-19 12:22:10	icholy	found it https://github.com/golang/go/issues/41744
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2021-05-19 13:31:12	A_D	Given the ongoing freenode crisis, are there any discussions ongoing to move this channel elsewhere?
2021-05-19 13:32:04	+Aram	there's #go-nuts on Libera
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2021-05-19 13:57:55	pjs	excellent
2021-05-19 14:00:02	oz	:)
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2021-05-19 14:02:31	oz	I like the "if freenode dies", looks like a subtle "defer recoverIrcDied()"
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2021-05-19 14:24:01	mrig	Hello
2021-05-19 14:25:05	mrig	Does go get url@latest expect a v0.0.0.ref type pseudo version?
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2021-05-19 14:26:27	mrig	I have set my GONOPROXY variable with the url of a repo, but when I try to use @latest I am getting the following error :
2021-05-19 14:26:30	mrig	go get: github.com/8i8/http@latest (v0.0.0-00010101000000-000000000000) requires github.com/8i8/http@v0.0.0-20210509115950-98b44507eace, not github.com/8i8/http@latest (v0.0.0-00010101000000-000000000000)
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2021-05-19 14:27:28	mrig	The actual repo has a version v0.0.n
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2021-05-19 14:41:09	Tv`	that's a weird message. module requires itself?
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2021-05-19 14:44:44	lungaro	Hmmm, is IRC being ripped apart by this Freenode fiasco? I'm now in #go-nuts on Libera.Chat
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2021-05-19 14:45:03	lungaro	curious if anyone knows if there is official plans to migrate
2021-05-19 14:46:09	Tv`	lungaro: not much official about this thing in the first place
2021-05-19 14:46:15	lungaro	True =P
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2021-05-19 15:17:52	johnny56	I'm having a hard time understanding why when I switch from a i.e. "type config struct { metrics Metrics }" to "type config struct { metrics []Metrics }" I lose the ability to drill down into the variable and access the paths below Metrics when using []Metrics
2021-05-19 15:18:15	johnny56	I.E before the change I do config.Metrics.Name but after the change I can only see config.Metrics and not .Name
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2021-05-19 15:20:53	jemaclus	because .Metrics is now a slice. You would need to do config.Metrics[0].Name
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2021-05-19 15:30:53	johnny56	omg I'm such a idiot 🤦 thx
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2021-05-19 15:41:04	mrig	Tv`: I'm glad that I'm not the only person that finds it a little odd.
2021-05-19 15:42:52	mrig	I think a few new repos just to test what is happening and how it works could be the way to go; Very cryptic though.
2021-05-19 15:44:11	b0nn	https://events.google.com/io/session/7b7e7dd8-57a5-4459-a96e-1494d09efbe6?lng=en
2021-05-19 15:44:20	b0nn	^Going live in ~90 minutes
2021-05-19 15:45:21	pjs	nice
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2021-05-19 15:51:44	mrig	oh of course it would help if I removed the replace directive.
2021-05-19 15:52:06	mrig	The error output are not ideal here.
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2021-05-19 16:10:15	ranu	Hello, I'm having problem returning pgx.Rows from a function
2021-05-19 16:10:28	ranu	The compiler says I can't do that but the explanation is not quite clear
2021-05-19 16:11:09	b0nn	ranu: post some of your code on play.golang.org so people can see what you are having problems with
2021-05-19 16:11:16	ranu	Okay
2021-05-19 16:12:05	ranu	https://play.golang.org/p/_sNoggiz6L5
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2021-05-19 16:12:45	ranu	cannot use &r (value of type *pgx.Rows) as *pgx.Rows value in return statement is the error message from the compiler
2021-05-19 16:13:04	ranu	Well, I think I got it
2021-05-19 16:13:09	ranu	The package used is wrong
2021-05-19 16:13:22	Tv`	v4 versus v1
2021-05-19 16:13:44	ranu	Yep
2021-05-19 16:14:06	b0nn	ranu: the IRC rubber duck wins again
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2021-05-19 16:16:30	ranu	b0nn, sure it did hahaha
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2021-05-19 16:27:57	shibumi	if I want to build a file only on unix systems (darwin AND linux) can I use _unix.go as file suffix?
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2021-05-19 16:28:06	shibumi	I only found _linux and _windows suffixes in the wild
2021-05-19 16:28:14	shibumi	or is a !windows build constraint the way to go?
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2021-05-19 16:32:20	b0nn	shibumi: It depends :)
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2021-05-19 16:33:07	b0nn	https://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Build_constraints has // +build linux,386 darwin,!cgo as an example (linux AND 385) OR (darwin AND (NOT cgo))
2021-05-19 16:33:56	johnny56	I have a variable defined outside of a for loop, "results := httpResults{}" the for loop has a nested for loop with the nested for loop appending the data to the result variable. I'm only seeing the data from the last outer loop run and not the first out loop run does anyone have any idea why it's missing ?
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2021-05-19 16:35:01	j416	shibumi: *_unix.go will build on Darwin
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2021-05-19 16:36:34	shibumi	j416: only on darwin or linux as well?
2021-05-19 16:36:41	shibumi	j416: I thought _darwin.go is for darwin
2021-05-19 16:36:41	j416	both
2021-05-19 16:36:45	shibumi	ah okay cool
2021-05-19 16:36:47	shibumi	thanks
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2021-05-19 16:38:02	j416	shibumi: *_darwin.go will run on Darwin but not linux
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2021-05-19 16:40:51	j416	shibumi: you can check with go list; create your files, then GOOS=linux go list -f '{{.GoFiles}}'
2021-05-19 16:40:59	j416	(or whichever OS)
2021-05-19 16:41:07	shibumi	Ah cool.
2021-05-19 16:41:12	shibumi	Thanks a lot
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2021-05-19 16:41:44	j416	learnt list trick from https://dave.cheney.net/2013/10/12/how-to-use-conditional-compilation-with-the-go-build-tool
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2021-05-19 17:34:42	impermanence	logrus or zap and why? or something else?  or does it not matter?
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2021-05-19 17:36:51	b0nn	Zap has been getting a lot of press on how 'fast' it is, and how little resource it consumes
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2021-05-19 17:40:16	impermanence	b0nn: yeah they list stats in their main git
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2021-05-19 17:40:20	impermanence	which is cool
2021-05-19 17:41:14	impermanence	how about yaml processing?
2021-05-19 17:41:22	impermanence	I guess I'm going to use yamlv3?
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2021-05-19 17:46:58	impermanence	how do I get the right semver for something like yamlv3 lol?
2021-05-19 17:47:13	impermanence	(for my go.mod)
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2021-05-19 17:53:16	b0nn	This has just started https://events.google.com/io/session/7b7e7dd8-57a5-4459-a96e-1494d09efbe6?lng=en
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2021-05-19 18:27:31	pjs	b0nn: isn't that the same as earlier?
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2021-05-19 18:28:21	b0nn	Yeah, but it'd only started when I posted the second time
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2021-05-19 18:29:06	pjs	b0nn: hrmm, I think it's just replaying. I saw the second half of this earlier.
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2021-05-19 18:32:50	b0nn	ok
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2021-05-19 19:32:59	internut	Some may recall, last week I was asking about the data structure that comes out of the json decoder when you decode into an interface{}.
2021-05-19 19:33:53	internut	I was trying to find a name for that thing, so I could search for tools to manipulate it.
2021-05-19 19:34:09	internut	(which a number of people said was a bad idea BTW)
2021-05-19 19:34:50	internut	but, I use gojq extensively on these objects, and basically wanted 'diff' and 'patch' for them
2021-05-19 19:35:33	internut	github.com/clucia/amorph (I call the objects Amorphs)
2021-05-19 19:35:42	internut	feel free to poke holes
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2021-05-19 19:58:59	b0nn	Ah, you don't wanna go there anyways, Go more than satisfies your requirements :P
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2021-05-19 20:08:31	 *	pjs chuckles
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2021-05-19 20:21:27	b0nn	lol
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2021-05-19 21:24:44	b0nn	there are 122 nicks in the libera.chat version of this channel
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2021-05-19 21:25:27	iateadonut	now 123
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2021-05-19 21:35:12	iateadonut	hi daesu
2021-05-19 21:36:53	daesu	hey
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2021-05-19 21:54:08	nezxan	b0nn: is it official in any way?
2021-05-19 21:54:22	b0nn	I don't know
2021-05-19 21:54:25	nezxan	then again, how official is #go-nuts in freenode + the topic says it all atm
2021-05-19 21:54:30	nezxan	s/in/on
2021-05-19 21:54:51	b0nn	so, on freenode, the go-* channels are supposed to be controlled by the Go team
2021-05-19 21:55:07	b0nn	I'm not sure what the policy is on libera.chat
2021-05-19 21:55:29	nezxan	it's by former freenode staffers that heavily empathize migration
2021-05-19 21:55:34	nezxan	I guess policies would be similar
2021-05-19 21:55:35	b0nn	But, for the moment, I have an account on both servers to see which one survives
2021-05-19 21:56:20	nezxan	one channel migrated to oftc, which was quickly decided and is now enforced ; I don't really care much either way, I will go where the users end up
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2021-05-19 23:07:03	pepee	sooo, are you people moving too?
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2021-05-19 23:07:41	pepee	nvm, I see you already discussed the topic
2021-05-19 23:10:00	foobaz	i'm not comfortable making judgements after hearing only one side of the story
2021-05-19 23:10:22	foobaz	and if i did want to move, i'd prefer to go to a mature network like oftc or efnet
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2021-05-19 23:11:05	pepee	yeah, oftc is good
2021-05-19 23:11:15	daesu	Indeed, I'm curious why oftc/efnet etc were not chosen instead of libera chat. I never heard of it b4 now.
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2021-05-19 23:11:48	foobaz	moving to libra chat gives control to those who just lost power and are trying to reclaim it
2021-05-19 23:12:17	pepee	https://www.kline.sh/  https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
2021-05-19 23:12:43	foobaz	this makes them seem self-serving, if they were interested in the well being of the users, why not tell people to go to oftc?
2021-05-19 23:13:54	pepee	dunno. for all I know you could be right
2021-05-19 23:14:23	pepee	still, freenode and oftc have different objectives I guess
2021-05-19 23:14:30	b0nn	There's nothing forcing you to move
2021-05-19 23:14:36	pepee	to me personally,I find all of this drama sad
2021-05-19 23:14:45	pepee	yep, what b0nn said
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2021-05-19 23:15:21	b0nn	The options are, stay here, don't stay here, go to slack/discord/another IRC network
2021-05-19 23:17:20	pepee	pls don't use discord or slack...
2021-05-19 23:17:34	daesu	+1 no slack
2021-05-19 23:17:47	pepee	I'd suggest Telegram, but I guess most people don't use it
2021-05-19 23:18:25	foobaz	i suggest waiting a week or so to see how this plays out before making any decisions
2021-05-19 23:18:29	daesu	I have to use slack for work. There isn't a word strong enough in the English language to describe how much I hate it.
2021-05-19 23:18:32	pepee	it has some nice features to share stuff, I've seen a couple of groups that use it for support, discussion,etcand it seems to work
2021-05-19 23:18:57	pepee	I hate these "new" web-IRC-frontend-like apps
2021-05-19 23:19:33	pepee	using that much RAM to have a conversation is insane IMO
2021-05-19 23:19:34	abc_	How about matrix or libera.chat
2021-05-19 23:19:59	b0nn	Yeah - I don't like slack - but it's an option that ppl should hear about
2021-05-19 23:20:20	b0nn	At the end of the day, it's about where people are
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2021-05-19 23:38:33	pepee	this is the other side of the story: https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss . the "new" freenode staff posted that link as a global notice a while ago
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2021-05-19 23:48:20	b0nn	This is the most active this channel has been at this time of day in a whiles
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2021-05-20 00:09:34	seebs	i've got accounts on several of these, but since i know some of the former freenode people who got suddenly removed, i have at the very least skepticism about the future of freenode.
2021-05-20 00:10:15	KirkMcDonald	I just see it as a matter of continuity. The people running libera.chat are the people who've been running Freenode this whole time.
2021-05-20 00:10:53	KirkMcDonald	They've transplanted en masse. It seems reasonably to assume that the expectations I've established here will continue there.
2021-05-20 00:10:58	KirkMcDonald	reasonable*
2021-05-20 00:11:06	seebs	yeah
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2021-05-20 03:50:11	a2800276	doesn't the possibility to "bridge" an irc channel on two servers/networks exist?
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2021-05-20 03:59:06	zutt	a2800276: there are bots that can do that, yes
2021-05-20 03:59:30	kodah	you can also use an irc client that will merge the chats
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2021-05-20 05:25:44	shunkica	Can someone explain why looping over a slice using range is faster than using an index? For example https://play.golang.org/p/NH4R9xuECrs here case 1 is consistently fastest on my machine and case 3 slowest. (You cant run it on play.golang because UnixNano() doesnt work properly there)
2021-05-20 05:28:31	shunkica	I thought that the range loop has to copy the value on every iteration? Since when I return a pointer to the value of a range loop, it is not the pointer to the value in the original slice.
2021-05-20 05:32:12	sztanpet	https://golang.org/ref/spec#For_statements
2021-05-20 05:33:29	sztanpet	also, look at the generated assembly, maybe it couldnt eliminate bounds checks
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2021-05-20 05:35:00	fizzie	As for "has to copy the value", it has to assign the value to `s`, sure, but that's not expensive. It certainly doesn't involve copying the string contents. The string header is a pointer + an int, which you would need to access anyway eventually, to do the comparison.
2021-05-20 05:35:40	sztanpet	also, testing has support for just these kinds of benchmarks which do a lot better job at giving you representative numbers
2021-05-20 05:35:52	sztanpet	some statistics and running them more than once is involved
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2021-05-20 05:55:00	azta	is there a way to take a string and make it a valid filename?
2021-05-20 05:55:14	azta	I mean escaping /, ?, * etc
2021-05-20 05:55:29	azta	I guessed there was something builtin but I can't find anything
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2021-05-20 05:56:04	azta	(The filename is a persons name from a form, but I can't trust it)
2021-05-20 05:56:08	azta	thanks
2021-05-20 05:58:12	fizzie	There's built-in functions for encoding things for various uses in URLs, because those have a specification; for file names, it's a lot more vague, since the list of allowed characters depends on the filesystem, and there's no universally accepted encoding scheme. So I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a thing for that.
2021-05-20 05:59:40	sztanpet	theres https://golang.org/pkg/io/fs/#ValidPath but i dont think that fits here
2021-05-20 06:00:20	azta	thanks fizzie, I guess I'll substitute out all problematic characters
2021-05-20 06:01:11	azta	sztanpet: that would return true for "Adam / Alice / Alica Smith" I guess because the / is valid in a filepath
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2021-05-20 06:01:45	azta	but I need string -> (valid)filename, not (valid)filepath
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2021-05-20 06:14:03	fizzie	I'd maybe just go with a lower-common-denominator thing, and replace all non-alphanumeric-ASCII bytes with _XX (as in, hex digits) or something.
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2021-05-20 06:14:27	b0nn	yeah, I'd be worried about shell expansion attacks
2021-05-20 06:14:36	b0nn	file;rm-rf/
2021-05-20 06:14:43	b0nn	with spaces :)
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2021-05-20 06:15:23	azta			re := strings.NewReplacer("/", ",", "\\", ",", ":", "-", "*", ".", "?", "+", "\"", "'", "<", "-", ">", "-", "|", "-")
2021-05-20 06:15:44	fizzie	IMO, an allowlist is better than a denylist.
2021-05-20 06:15:49	azta	this works of course but I'm sure I'm missing some
2021-05-20 06:15:55	azta	you're right
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2021-05-20 06:16:44	fizzie	Strictly speaking, "encoding/base64".URLEncoding would be a filename-safe encoding of a string. If you don't mind that it's unintelligible when encoded, and makes even regular strings longer. :)
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2021-05-20 06:17:42	b0nn	and a length limit
2021-05-20 06:18:27	b0nn	hrm, that replacer would allo file.jpg.not.a.trojan.png.exe
2021-05-20 06:19:07	 *	b0nn remembers the good old days when zillions of . in a filename hid that you were receiving an executable on windows
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2021-05-20 06:19:19	azta	I'm recieving membership applications from a web form in json and I'm producing a shared directory of vcards. So I'd prefer "readable name.vcf"
2021-05-20 06:19:30	azta	but yeah I see what you mean fizzie
2021-05-20 06:23:27	sztanpet	the most user-friendly thing to do is to unicode normalize the name, strip accents/etc to basically convert it to ascii
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2021-05-20 06:26:21	fizzie	A potential problem with being *so* user-friendly is that Mr. Blah and Mr. Bläh will have conflicting file names. That's why I like reversible encodings, like making one of those blah.vcf and the other bl_C3_A4h.vcf, even if it's a little less friendly.
2021-05-20 06:26:33	fizzie	But that sort of thing might not be a concern for you.
2021-05-20 06:27:31	azta	it does, the asociation I'm doing this for is spanish. Very few names don't have accents.
2021-05-20 06:28:22	azta	I have a way to avoid collisions already because each name starts with a membership number
2021-05-20 06:28:43	azta	(well, an allotment number, but it's unique) :)
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2021-05-20 06:30:03	sztanpet	https://blog.golang.org/normalization and https://play.golang.org/p/CMR1CNKoCdO anyway
2021-05-20 06:30:48	fizzie	Oh, if you can guarantee no collisions, then you can of course be a little more user-friendly.
2021-05-20 06:31:59	azta	I think I will do that
2021-05-20 06:32:08	sztanpet	just dont forget to strip all the other ancillary unicode things too
2021-05-20 06:32:15	azta	and then an allowlist
2021-05-20 06:34:07	azta	thanks a lot fizzie, sztanpet, b0nn.
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2021-05-20 06:38:29	sztanpet	and theres https://github.com/mozillazg/go-unidecode if you want to be really proper and need transliteration for non-latin languages
2021-05-20 06:38:43	sztanpet	but its getting a bit overkill now
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2021-05-20 09:45:00	pmcnabb	How does the garbage collector deal with the situation where a variable's address on the stack is saved with the intent to be used after the called function returns? For example: https://play.golang.org/p/r9wz2ePAp9K
2021-05-20 09:46:06	+Aram	that is not a variable on the stack.
2021-05-20 09:46:21	+Aram	you can't control stack/heap allocation in Go.
2021-05-20 09:46:41	pmcnabb	Ah, so the compiler figured it out and put it on the heap?
2021-05-20 09:46:54	+Aram	values are put on the heap, if required.
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2021-05-20 09:47:57	pmcnabb	Aram: thanks
2021-05-20 09:48:04	siXy	It's worth mentioning also that the go spec makes exactly zero references to either the stack or the heap. So not only can you not influence where a var lives, you can't rely on observed behaviour being stable.
2021-05-20 09:48:16	+Aram	anytime.
2021-05-20 09:48:19	+Aram	that is true.
2021-05-20 09:48:29	+Aram	in particular escape analysis always gets more sophisticated.
2021-05-20 09:49:22	pmcnabb	siXy: thanks
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2021-05-20 13:04:25	sysadmin	Remember Bitcoin in 2008??? Pi is a new digital currency developed by Stanford PhDs, To claim your piece of pi goto https://minepi.com and use "ilkde" as your invitation code. Get your piece of the pi now !
2021-05-20 13:05:07	pepee	guess we will start getting more and more spam
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2021-05-20 13:10:32	pjs	can everyone just move over to libera so I can close out one more freenode channel pls :)
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2021-05-20 13:11:12	icholy	pjs: waiting to see how this plays out
2021-05-20 13:11:27	theckman	pjs: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/46281 :)
2021-05-20 13:13:45	pjs	theckman: nice :)
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2021-05-20 13:27:00	pjs	there's quite a few ppl in libera channel. I think I'll move there. See you all on the other side :)
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2021-05-20 13:37:56	jemaclus	he's gone! we can talk about pjs all we want now! mwahahahahahahahahaha
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2021-05-20 15:30:11	b0nn	23:48 < siXy> It's worth mentioning also that the go spec makes exactly zero references to either the stack or the heap. So not only can you not influence where a var lives, you can't rely on observed behaviour being stable.
2021-05-20 15:30:43	b0nn	^ I'm /sure/ that I've seen some code that forces something to go to the heap
2021-05-20 15:30:52	b0nn	it might have been internal plumbing though
2021-05-20 15:31:35	b0nn	when I do a search for "escape" on the go project I get too many hits - mostly in test files
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2021-05-20 15:35:49	b0nn	hm, I might have misread the comment - all the stuff that forces values onto the heap does so without a call to an explicit function
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2021-05-20 15:36:58	b0nn	https://github.com/golang/go/blob/e617b2b0dd14faddad82599f31f64bce3ff2ca2f/src/cmd/compile/internal/base/debug.go#L185
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2021-05-20 15:38:51	b0nn	The use of side effects is common https://github.com/golang/go/blob/2ebe77a2fda1ee9ff6fd9a3e08933ad1ebaea039/src/runtime/lfstack_test.go#L31
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2021-05-20 15:48:53	TuxBlackEdo	can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/BLmfdsFA
2021-05-20 15:49:35	b0nn	wow, not seen anyone run `dep` in a whiles
2021-05-20 15:50:06	TuxBlackEdo	ok how about https://pastebin.com/rAuXFgvh
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2021-05-20 15:52:04	b0nn	what Go version are you on?
2021-05-20 15:52:42	TuxBlackEdo	go version go1.10.4 linux/amd64
2021-05-20 15:52:49	TuxBlackEdo	i am guessing this isn't the one i am supposed to be on?
2021-05-20 15:52:54	b0nn	ok, your go is quite a bit out of date
2021-05-20 15:53:20	b0nn	current version is 1.16
2021-05-20 15:53:51	b0nn	That project uses modules to manage dependencies, and they weren't introduced into the Go build chain till about 1.15
2021-05-20 15:53:59	TuxBlackEdo	gotcha
2021-05-20 15:54:01	TuxBlackEdo	thank you
2021-05-20 15:54:05	b0nn	np
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2021-05-20 15:59:10	TuxBlackEdo	yup that fixed it
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2021-05-20 16:24:51	kinduff	hello
2021-05-20 16:25:09	kinduff	wondering why we should avoid packages like "utils", where I can store some
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2021-05-20 16:25:43	kinduff	read that is preferred to do repetition, but i'm kinda leaning towards doing a utils package so i can reuse it across my program
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2021-05-20 16:28:39	b0nn	so, the problem with a name like "utils" is that it doesn't convey anything to users (other devs)
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2021-05-20 16:28:47	b0nn	it might as well be named "stuff"
2021-05-20 16:29:06	b0nn	Dave Cheney has an excellent blog bpost on this, I'll just look it up
2021-05-20 16:29:35	b0nn	https://dave.cheney.net/2019/01/08/avoid-package-names-like-base-util-or-common
2021-05-20 16:29:51	mrig	There is a nice ardan labs post on vendoring to, which is related.
2021-05-20 16:31:02	mrig	kinda related, it recommends a package of 'company packages' are put into some combined repo for cross project use,
2021-05-20 16:32:32	mrig	well it is on project layout, just trying to find that.
2021-05-20 16:32:54	mrig	ah here it is: https://www.ardanlabs.com/blog/2017/02/package-oriented-design.html
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2021-05-20 16:39:08	kinduff	very interesting, gonna read both articles
2021-05-20 16:39:11	kinduff	thank you very much
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2021-05-20 16:53:34	jemaclus	Yeah, think of your kitchen. Everyone has that junk drawer that's full of just random crap, and you avoid looking in it as much as possible because it doesn't make sense. But it's better to say "this drawer is for the silverware, and this is for the pots and pans, and this is for the bakeware, and..." So as much as possible, it's best to create specific packages that mean specific things.
2021-05-20 16:53:57	jemaclus	Packages are basically free, so if you have a package with one file that has two functions in it, that's totally fine, imo.
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2021-05-20 16:59:12	b0nn	The two hardest things in CS are Cache invalidation, Naming things, and off by one errors
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2021-05-20 17:15:52	nacelle	there is also dealing with peers who attempt to correct you by filling in your conversation in a way that you can't immediately argue with.   :-)
2021-05-20 17:17:37	ndim	b0nn: That makes four things.
2021-05-20 17:17:54	b0nn	ndim: troubleshooting async :)
2021-05-20 17:18:18	nacelle	scope creep!
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2021-05-20 22:23:14	quiznilo	I'm getting an error message when I try to compile this...
2021-05-20 22:23:26	quiznilo	"working directory is not part of a module"
2021-05-20 22:23:28	quiznilo	?
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2021-05-20 22:27:10	quiznilo	this is modules, not sure I like
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2021-05-20 22:27:36	quiznilo	I'M NOT WHITE
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2021-05-20 22:31:19	b0nn_	quiznilo: *why* are you saying that
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2021-05-20 22:31:52	quiznilo	for the google types who won't answer me if they think I'm white
2021-05-20 22:32:33	b0nn_	!ops
2021-05-20 22:33:52	jemaclus	lmao
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2021-05-20 23:05:18	quiznilo	vim-go keeps zapping an important dependency, I'm pulling my hair out... these 'modules' are awful
2021-05-20 23:07:28	b0nn_	ok, I personally am *not* a fan of modules, but, because I am bored, let's see what the actual problem you have is
2021-05-20 23:08:32	b0nn_	write the import, close your editor (or even open another shell) and write `go mod tidy`, that *should* add the import dependency to your go.mod, which *should* stop goimports from complaining
2021-05-20 23:08:55	quiznilo	"go run: cannot run non-main package"
2021-05-20 23:09:09	quiznilo	oh
2021-05-20 23:09:10	b0nn_	if there is no go.mod in your project, then `go mod init`
2021-05-20 23:10:34	b0nn_	It's a little annoying that something isn't run to add the import to the go.mod when gopls, or goimports, orwhatever is complaining detects that it is missing
2021-05-20 23:11:37	quiznilo	I'm thinking about: imports gotgbot github.com/PaulSonOfLars/gotgbot/v2
2021-05-20 23:12:02	A_D	b0nn_: at the very least vscode can tidy from the UI
2021-05-20 23:13:01	b0nn_	A_D: I guess that,. in vims case, you could :!go mod tidy, which will shell out
2021-05-20 23:13:01	quiznilo	vscode is nice, but I'm faster working with my vim modes
2021-05-20 23:13:18	quiznilo	yess good, I'm remembering now
2021-05-20 23:13:32	b0nn_	I've not tried it as I am a tmuxer, so there is always at least 4 shells opn in my screen
2021-05-20 23:13:50	quiznilo	that like up there worked btw `gotgbot github.com/PaulSonOfLars/gotgbot/v2`
2021-05-20 23:13:54	quiznilo	*line
2021-05-20 23:14:08	A_D	honestly the absolute largest issue I have with vscode that really impacts my workflow is the lack of a dedicated terminal button
2021-05-20 23:14:37	ente_	A_D: can't you open a terminal with a keybind (system wide)?
2021-05-20 23:14:58	b0nn_	doesn't it have a terminal thing at the bottom?
2021-05-20 23:14:58	quiznilo	thanks for the help
2021-05-20 23:15:01	A_D	ente_: I can open two seperate terminals with a keybind :P
2021-05-20 23:15:14	quiznilo	yes, I can open a terminal, this is neovim
2021-05-20 23:15:18	ente_	A_D: but also just one?
2021-05-20 23:15:19	A_D	b0nn_: it has a button that opens a pane that includes a terminal, but not a dedicated terminal button
2021-05-20 23:15:22	quiznilo	I've never seen much of a reason to
2021-05-20 23:15:35	quiznilo	make my own 'terminal button'
2021-05-20 23:15:40	A_D	ente_: one button for drop down terminal another to open a new instance of ...whatever the kde terminal emulattor is
2021-05-20 23:15:44	A_D	emulator*
2021-05-20 23:16:03	b0nn_	IME almost all editors have almost all the features that almost all the other editors have in some way, shape, or form
2021-05-20 23:16:11	ente_	A_D: ok? so you can open a terminal with a keybind? so what do you need a button in vscode for?
2021-05-20 23:16:18	b0nn_	It really comes down to how you like to interact with the app
2021-05-20 23:16:21	A_D	ente_: positioning :P
2021-05-20 23:16:32	ente_	A_D: use a tiling window manager
2021-05-20 23:16:33	A_D	blame old muscle memory and things
2021-05-20 23:16:42	A_D	still wouldnt make it a part of the app
2021-05-20 23:16:59	ente_	A_D: yeah that's probably the best argument against changing your workflow
2021-05-20 23:17:00	A_D	yes, its that silly of an annoyance
2021-05-20 23:17:24	ente_	A_D: but you really don't need vscode to open a terminal when you  have a terminal emulator on your system
2021-05-20 23:17:36	b0nn_	A_D: that's my excuse too!
2021-05-20 23:17:45	A_D	no not at all, its just nice that its a, a part of the app, and b, its in the right directory already
2021-05-20 23:17:51	A_D	and for python its got my venv enabled already
2021-05-20 23:18:05	b0nn_	that and WRT vim I am literally learning new tricks (almost) daily
2021-05-20 23:18:09	ente_	A_D: ok, opening a terminal in the right directory is probably convenient
2021-05-20 23:18:24	A_D	yeah
2021-05-20 23:18:40	A_D	oh and that same pane has other things that are useful such as gopls/pylance output etc
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2021-05-20 23:18:51	A_D	I really just want a button that selects the terminal tab by default
2021-05-20 23:19:05	ente_	can't you use the command prompt in vs code?
2021-05-20 23:19:13	ente_	or create a keybind or whatever?
2021-05-20 23:19:21	ente_	I never really used vscode
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2021-05-20 23:21:29	b0nn_	quiznilo: so your problem is fixed now?
2021-05-20 23:21:39	b0nn_	I got distracted by the editor discussion
2021-05-20 23:22:51	quiznilo	it is, thanks sir
2021-05-20 23:23:11	b0nn_	awesome sauce
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2021-05-21 04:21:34	shunkica	how do i read a here string in go? eg: program <<< "input"
2021-05-21 04:22:00	mkopriva	hi all, does anyone know if there is a legitimate reason for not allowing method calls on a slice composite literal's element expression whose type was elided? e.g. why in the following example A is acceptable but B isn't? https://play.golang.org/p/1yul9o36ygT
2021-05-21 04:24:31	a2800276	HERE docs are shell constructs, Go doesn't have a comparable feature that allows you to define your own custom string delimiter.
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2021-05-21 04:25:25	a2800276	You can use backticks for "raw" strings that allow \n and such. If you're looking for multiline string literals?
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2021-05-21 04:27:29	shunkica	I dont need to parse a here doc, just a here string
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2021-05-21 04:44:47	iivvoo	do you need to read input or arguments?
2021-05-21 04:45:01	iivvoo	input is a matter of reading from stdin
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2021-05-21 04:51:57	shunkica	The program has an interactive mode, where it reads input until user writes q or exit, but if the here string is passed i want the program to parse the here string, execute some stuff, and then exit.
2021-05-21 04:52:42	shunkica	for eg. like mysql. if you just run mysql it will read input untill you terminate, but if you pass a here string, eg: mysql <<< "SHOW DATABASES" it will execute this command and terminate the program
2021-05-21 04:55:35	OMGOMG	put q or exit at the end of your herestring
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2021-05-21 04:57:12	TheDude2600	Hi everyone is it okay to return multiple errors from a function?
2021-05-21 04:57:58	TheDude2600	I have a function that can encounter errors that are somewhat recoverable so I was thinking should I return first error or all?
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2021-05-21 04:59:36	ente_	uhm
2021-05-21 04:59:54	ente_	if it's recoverable, can't you just compare the error returned to something and go on from there?
2021-05-21 05:00:57	albertito	TheDude2600: you can definitely return a []error or a map[...]error
2021-05-21 05:01:14	TheDude2600	Is it a bad pattern?
2021-05-21 05:01:30	albertito	TheDude2600: whether that's the best option really depends on your case. It's uncommon but not totally unreasonable in some situations, IMO
2021-05-21 05:01:42	TheDude2600	ok thanks
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2021-05-21 05:18:36	debugloop	I have a protobuf question and don't know where else to ask it, but I'm using Go bindings, so... Can I have a field referencing another somehow? In this case, I have a source and a destination address, and I want a field to indicate the remote address (which might be either) without duplicating the data from the correct field
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2021-05-21 05:49:34	albertito	debugloop: not as such. You can use an enum as a workaround
2021-05-21 05:50:10	iateadonut	when i do `go doc big int` is see func cmp in the list.  how do i get the docs for that func?  `go doc big int cmp` and `go doc big.int cmp` do not work.
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2021-05-21 05:50:29	albertito	debugloop: like define an enum AddrLocation { SRC, DST } and then have a field "AddrLocation remote"
2021-05-21 05:51:17	albertito	debugloop: it's not the prettiest of things though (and the names can probably be better, I just picked them up without much thought)
2021-05-21 05:52:00	albertito	iateadonut: go doc big int.Cmp
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2021-05-21 05:55:24	iateadonut	thanks
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2021-05-21 06:01:38	debugloop	albertito: thanks for the pointer in the right direction, I'll look into it :)
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2021-05-21 15:04:11	MrHall	Hi! Do know some librery for swagger / open api 3.0 docs generation? I have only seen for open api 2.0
2021-05-21 15:04:35	MrHall	*library
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2021-05-21 18:00:20	pinky	./prog.go:10:7: invalid character U+007E '~'
2021-05-21 18:00:38	pinky	shouldn't ~ be valid? https://www.tutorialspoint.com/go/go_operators.htm
2021-05-21 18:01:02	pinky	https://play.golang.org/p/l-H0gvFjwg6
2021-05-21 18:01:57	pinky	forgot a : on line 8 but still
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2021-05-21 18:06:18	pinky	maybe its ^?
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2021-05-21 18:06:26	pinky	https://github.com/onelang/OneLang/issues/23
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2021-05-21 18:06:49	pinky	trying to implement this in go: https://coderwall.com/p/327jiw/2-s-complement-in-javascript
2021-05-21 18:08:38	pinky	ah, got it https://play.golang.org/p/-2ikH18d6_E
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2021-05-21 18:58:32	cispra	I have multiple values, like a := 5, b := 2, c:= 7 et cetera, and want to find out the two values with the smallest difference, and the two with the biggest difference, ideally with the accompanying variable names
2021-05-21 18:59:09	cispra	like "smallest distance is from h to y and is 59 ; largest distance is from f to u and is 193"
2021-05-21 18:59:49	cispra	I could put my variables in a slice and iterate, but how would I access the variable names? I could use a map, but that seems messy as well
2021-05-21 19:00:15	cispra	hints appreciated
2021-05-21 19:01:21	pinky	anyone used this bitfield generator or aware of something thats used it i can look at?
2021-05-21 19:01:24	pinky	https://github.com/golang/text/blob/v0.3.6/internal/gen/bitfield/bitfield.go#L109
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2021-05-21 19:07:05	b0nn_	cispra: the biggest difference is easy, store a copy of the min, and a copy of the max, updating either when you find a value bigger or smaller
2021-05-21 19:07:44	b0nn_	actually, strike that
2021-05-21 19:08:09	b0nn_	sort the group, then the biggest different is [0] and [len(group)-1]
2021-05-21 19:09:09	b0nn_	the smallest gap is going to take a full search of that sorted group (I think) - although you can bail when you find two adjacent items when the diff == 0
2021-05-21 19:10:31	cispra	b0nn_: but corrent me if I'm wrong, that helps me find min and max yes, but I need the accompanying variable names as well
2021-05-21 19:10:37	cispra	that's kind of my main issue
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2021-05-21 19:11:48	cispra	I don't want "min is 5, max is 39", I want "min is from f to q and is 5; max is from q to m and is 39"
2021-05-21 19:11:55	b0nn_	The choice is, store them as a name/value pair in a sortable structure
2021-05-21 19:12:26	b0nn_	or put all the values into the sorted structure then determine which names have the values you determine to be the winners
2021-05-21 19:12:42	b0nn_	Personally I'd go with the former
2021-05-21 19:13:13	b0nn_	ids this a hackerrank?
2021-05-21 19:14:02	cispra	what's ids?
2021-05-21 19:14:21	b0nn_	is
2021-05-21 19:14:38	cispra	and I was looking at urban dictionary scratching my head :P
2021-05-21 19:14:47	cispra	nah it isn't I had to look up hackerrank as well :D
2021-05-21 19:15:41	cispra	b0nn_: thanks though will try to solve it using a map
2021-05-21 19:16:29	b0nn_	a map will require you to sort it every time you want some sort of metric
2021-05-21 19:16:45	b0nn_	because they're not sorted (in the way that you might expect)
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2021-05-21 19:17:08	cispra	I know, want to try it for know and see how it does
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2021-05-21 19:22:20	pinky	https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/text/internal/gen
2021-05-21 19:22:26	pinky	is there a way to run these from go generate ?
2021-05-21 19:22:50	pinky	like i guess you can: go get golang.org/x/tools/cmd/stringer
2021-05-21 19:22:56	pinky	how are you supposed to use this bitfield one?
2021-05-21 19:25:05	cispra	b0nn_: I should really work through TAoCP at some point in my life ... :D
2021-05-21 19:26:39	pinky	oh text/internal isn't even exported
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2021-05-21 20:07:06	pinky	so looking at this, but how would you set two bits at a time? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23192262/how-would-you-set-and-clear-a-single-bit-in-go
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2021-05-21 20:29:45	KirkMcDonald	pinky: Just construct the appropriate mask.
2021-05-21 20:31:09	pinky	ok i think that makes sense, trying to do it
2021-05-21 20:31:14	pinky	Invalid operation: ctw.TxSequence & 0xff (cannot convert constant 0xff to type int8) :(
2021-05-21 20:31:26	KirkMcDonald	int8 is signed.
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2021-05-21 20:31:32	KirkMcDonald	0xff is out of range.
2021-05-21 20:32:34	pinky	ah thanks that works
2021-05-21 20:33:38	pinky	Invalid operation: val |= (ctw.TxSequence & 0xff) << 0 (mismatched types int16 and uint8)
2021-05-21 20:33:47	pinky	shouldn't this work? that doesn't convert it?
2021-05-21 20:34:21	KirkMcDonald	What type is val?
2021-05-21 20:34:32	KirkMcDonald	What type is ctw.TxSequence?
2021-05-21 20:34:51	pinky	i guess i want uint16 too .. val us now a uint16 and ctw.TxSequence is a uint8
2021-05-21 20:35:26	KirkMcDonald	Go does not implicitly convert between integer types. You'll need to do so explicitly.
2021-05-21 20:35:54	KirkMcDonald	Integer literals are untyped, and so those *will* get implicitly assigned a type based on context.
2021-05-21 20:36:01	pinky	would converting truncate too?
2021-05-21 20:36:06	KirkMcDonald	Yes.
2021-05-21 20:36:13	pinky	ah ok nice
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2021-05-21 20:37:02	pinky	so i guess i have to do: 	val |= uint16(ctw.TxSequence) << 0
2021-05-21 20:37:30	pinky	but is that going to blow away more bits than i want?
2021-05-21 20:37:35	KirkMcDonald	Sure, though I am compelled to point out that `x << 0` is a no-op.
2021-05-21 20:38:09	pinky	ah, i was trying to set the bit at position 0
2021-05-21 20:38:30	pinky	i guess you just assign to it to do that?
2021-05-21 20:38:46	KirkMcDonald	I mean that would just be `x |= 1`
2021-05-21 20:39:05	pinky	well its two bits actually, that start at position 0
2021-05-21 20:39:22	KirkMcDonald	So, the bottom two bits?
2021-05-21 20:39:41	pinky	yeah, thats the first step i need to do
2021-05-21 20:39:48	KirkMcDonald	`x |= 3`
2021-05-21 20:40:06	pinky	then i need to set bits 2 and 3 with a certain value, then bits 4-6, then bit 8-12 .. etc
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2021-05-21 20:41:18	KirkMcDonald	I think I'd need to see a more complete example to recommend the best way to do this, but it all sounds like pretty straightforward bitwise arithmetic.
2021-05-21 20:41:43	pinky	it's very straightforward but i am super dumb when it comes to this kind of stuff
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2021-05-21 20:42:12	pinky	https://play.golang.org/p/OoyXfRVXOkL
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2021-05-21 20:42:51	pinky	starting by implementing this stuff on page 14 :/ https://simply-automated.com/documents/UpbDescriptionV1.2a.pdf
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2021-05-21 20:45:30	pinky	val |= uint16(ctw.TxCount) & 0xff << 2
2021-05-21 20:45:42	pinky	i guess that 0xff would be redundant because those bits would be 0 already
2021-05-21 20:45:45	KirkMcDonald	The `& 0xff` probably isn't necessary.
2021-05-21 20:45:58	pinky	ok cool, some of this is starting to make sense :)
2021-05-21 20:46:28	KirkMcDonald	It would probably also make sense to settle on a single integer type for all this.
2021-05-21 20:46:58	KirkMcDonald	uin16 across the board.
2021-05-21 20:47:01	KirkMcDonald	uint16
2021-05-21 20:47:03	pinky	ah well theres 16 bits in the final ControlWord so I guess use that? I just figured the struct fields should only be as big as they need to be
2021-05-21 20:47:06	pinky	but i guess who cares
2021-05-21 20:47:27	KirkMcDonald	I mean if you're doing arithmetic between all these values, it only makes sense.
2021-05-21 20:47:39	pinky	yeah :)
2021-05-21 20:49:50	pinky	Invalid operation: val |= ctw.RepRq << 13 (mismatched types uint16 and ControlWordRepRqF)
2021-05-21 20:49:55	pinky	still need to convert these i guess :(
2021-05-21 20:50:58	KirkMcDonald	True.
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2021-05-21 21:34:12	arahael	so long and thanks for the fish!
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2021-05-21 22:00:35	pinky	so dumb question but how could i print a uint16 as two uint8 ?
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2021-05-21 22:03:03	fizzie	https://play.golang.org/p/-YkMaeqBJqG for example.
2021-05-21 22:04:15	pinky	ah nice, thanks ..
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2021-05-22 01:31:11	b0nn	Dammit, I just tried to outsmart myself
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2021-05-22 01:32:19	b0nn	If quicksort is O(n log n) and insertion into a B tree is log n, I was thinking that taking a set of unsorted items and placing them into a B Tree would be O(n log n)
2021-05-22 01:33:07	lemmi	and that would be correct
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2021-05-22 01:34:03	b0nn	Oh, wait, I was thinking that this would incur a space cost of 2n, but I just realised that (at most) it would incur n+1, because the addition from one set would be offset by the removal from the other
2021-05-22 01:35:06	b0nn	in fact it could be done in n space because all I would really be doing is changing the logical information associated with the dat, not the physical (although the metadata would be 2n
2021-05-22 01:36:43	cispra	b0nn: did my problem earlier inspire you to do this? :D
2021-05-22 01:37:01	lemmi	you are mixing time complexity with space complexity
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2021-05-22 01:40:04	lemmi	they are related since space complexity often gives you a lower bound for time.
2021-05-22 01:41:21	b0nn	cispra: I'm in the middle of writing a blog post on trees, well, I was, then I decided that I should start with a Big O notation article first, and that's when I realised that I could build a fast sort with a BST
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2021-05-22 01:42:42	b0nn	lemmi: WRT space cost, all the (faster) sorts have a space cost of +1 I think, because tmp = a; a = b; b = tmp
2021-05-22 01:43:54	b0nn	Big O can, and is, applied to both time and space complexities
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2021-05-22 01:55:56	b0nn	ok, now, is there a big O notation applicable to batched operations?
2021-05-22 01:56:50	b0nn	I mean, for example, if you hold batches pulled from a kafka firehose when writing to disk
2021-05-22 01:57:21	b0nn	It must be a constant, right
2021-05-22 01:58:46	b0nn	I mean 1 to n records written per batch is going to take the same time slice regardless of the number (as long as n is less than or equal to the amount of data that can be written to (say) one page
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2021-05-22 02:00:56	b0nn	Hmm, it cannot be constant, because once you exceed the max size per batch then it's going to cost more time, so.. it's a n modulus batch size?
2021-05-22 02:01:34	KirkMcDonald	Doesn't this amortize?
2021-05-22 02:04:38	b0nn	I don't know, how do I figure that out
2021-05-22 02:07:02	KirkMcDonald	If I understand the problem, you're talking about an operation in which insertions are "free" until some sort of buffer is full, and then it writes the whole buffer on the Nth insertion? Something along those lines?
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2021-05-22 02:10:48	b0nn	so, I'm thinking about writing to disk, 1 item is going to cost the same as n items as long as the amount of data is less than (I think) a single page
2021-05-22 02:11:39	b0nn	so, sizeof(n) in this has to be less than 1 page
2021-05-22 02:12:10	b0nn	I think using n here is confusing people, because O will be on n of all the items
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2021-05-22 02:13:08	b0nn	try a slightly more concrete thought, if I have 10000 items, to save to dicks, and it costs the same time for 1 or 2 or 3 items to be placed on disk, then the total amount of time is O(n/3)
2021-05-22 02:13:17	b0nn	with 4 being the max batch size
2021-05-22 02:13:31	b0nn	er, 3 ... typo
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2021-05-22 02:14:09	KirkMcDonald	Sure. And you ignore constant factors, when talking about asymptotic complexity.
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2021-05-22 02:15:27	b0nn	16:00 < b0nn> Hmm, it cannot be constant, because once you exceed the
2021-05-22 02:15:27	b0nn	              max size per batch then it's going to cost more time,
2021-05-22 02:15:28	b0nn	              so.. it's a n modulus batch size?
2021-05-22 02:17:05	KirkMcDonald	I would just say it is linear, then.
2021-05-22 02:17:12	KirkMcDonald	O(n)
2021-05-22 02:17:31	KirkMcDonald	Never mind that it's a step function.
2021-05-22 02:18:00	b0nn	That sounds about right
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2021-05-22 02:18:51	KirkMcDonald	And, likewise, I would say the cost of writing an individual item is O(1).
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2021-05-22 04:34:04	mrig	I am having some fun with modules govim git and vim right now, anyone got any advice on a nice workflow?
2021-05-22 04:34:09	mrig	Hello :)
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2021-05-22 04:35:30	mrig	I have probably effected to many changes in one, will just keep playing until it becomes clear, sure that there is a best practice in here to work out.
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2021-05-22 06:58:11	souvik	i too use govim sometimes, but prefer to use vim-go instead, since it's mature and has more features that I've got used to using mrig
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2021-05-22 07:05:10	mrig	Just trying to discover where the line is between the functioning of one and the other, but in installing govim I've compiled a more recent version of vim, so it is really hard to get a fix on what changes where.
2021-05-22 07:16:13	mrig	Have learned a little vimscript and quite I'm tempted to get involved with the govim project as it would be nice to be able to add functionality and I love the idea of being able to write vim plugins in go.
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2021-05-22 07:18:22	bookworm	the cool kids use lua now for plugin dev :P
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2021-05-22 07:22:53	mrig	would like to write an editor really if I'm honest.
2021-05-22 07:23:09	mrig	but I do love vim, feel kinda attached to it.
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2021-05-22 07:24:13	mrig	Just seem like a sane thing to do, to compile binaries for these things if we are using the day in day out who knows homany times in a day.
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2021-05-22 07:26:39	mrig	The balloon-eval window does seem to work quite nicely across models, giving a warning when you are not in the actual code but in the vendor package.
2021-05-22 07:27:00	mrig	vim has no scope and a lot of buffers :|
2021-05-22 07:28:37	mrig	I'm not sure how vim-go would do here, as it was miss behaving when I moved my local packages out into repos. But am still very much exploring the workflow.
2021-05-22 07:29:04	mrig	misbehaving rather, miss behaving was last night :|
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2021-05-22 07:30:37	mrig	Ah I think it could be linting info that is on by default.
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2021-05-22 07:35:02	mrig	If I'm honest, the appeal of using go withing vim, is actually using vim as a GUI, would end up with ORG mode for vim. But that is not really an ideal solution to my current requirements.
2021-05-22 07:35:07	mrig	another C interface.
2021-05-22 07:36:06	mrig	In all honesty that would be for the vim UI.
2021-05-22 07:36:13	mrig	sensible keyboard use.
2021-05-22 07:41:01	hoodedfigure	Hey, people are still here on freenode? xD
2021-05-22 07:41:25	mrig	Seems as thought gopls is fighting with vims scope, is there a gopls channel?
2021-05-22 07:41:59	bookworm	what do you mean?
2021-05-22 07:42:12	mrig	hoodedfigure: I have split several pairs of trousers straddling this 'suited' net spit :|
2021-05-22 07:42:19	bookworm	gopls is just the server, the thing that could mess up scopes is the lsp client
2021-05-22 07:42:46	mrig	I was going to say ruined but that would have had iccy implications.
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2021-05-22 07:43:25	mrig	bookworm: ah ok, so the api is perhaps being abused by the client then?
2021-05-22 07:44:04	bookworm	what's the actual problem you have?
2021-05-22 07:44:19	 *	hoodedfigure is not traing to imagine splitting trousers
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2021-05-22 07:44:56	mrig	I am looking for best workflow practices for code that is split across modules at the moment.
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2021-05-22 07:45:31	bookworm	replace directives pretty much
2021-05-22 07:45:44	bookworm	that should mean gopls pulls in the right things
2021-05-22 07:46:37	mrig	The thing is that I am also using vendor, as it simplifies pushing the code to my host.
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2021-05-22 07:48:45	mrig	But as this is the first time that i've separated out a package into a module and the development of both is still ongoing; Just trying it all out at the moment to get the best workflow.
2021-05-22 07:49:51	mrig	half my modules are now on v0.0.n versions and the other half still on automated pesudo numbering, which is a bit of a mess.
2021-05-22 07:50:03	mrig	but I'm not going to rename them just to reset them.
2021-05-22 07:51:12	mrig	I've and error showing currently in a package that is wrong, scratching my head wondering where to look to source it.
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2021-05-22 07:53:05	mrig	right that is apparently caused by having several versions of vim open.
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2021-05-22 07:55:06	mrig	Interesting thing, I heard this cited as being an issue with language servers in a talk yesterday; I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment, just trying to understand it.
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2021-05-22 07:55:33	mrig	As I am aware that these issues are that which gopls is trying to resolve.
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2021-05-22 07:56:53	mrig	hoodedfigure: this does remind me somewhat of a scene from 'the life of Brian', splitters!
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2021-05-22 07:57:52	hoodedfigure	mrig: want some otters' noses?
2021-05-22 07:57:57	mrig	heh
2021-05-22 07:58:07	mrig	Are they salted?
2021-05-22 07:58:40	hoodedfigure	rather salty.. get it?
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2021-05-22 07:58:51	mrig	Oh and I'll have half a bag of gravel please with tha.
2021-05-22 07:58:58	hoodedfigure	xD
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2021-05-22 10:09:08	pinky	Cannot convert expression of type '[2]uint8' to type '[]byte'
2021-05-22 10:09:10	pinky	why?!
2021-05-22 10:09:21	fizzie	You need to slice to get a slice.
2021-05-22 10:09:37	pinky	oh like [:] ?
2021-05-22 10:09:38	fizzie	If `v` is a [2]uint8, then v[:] will be a []uint8, aka a []byte.
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2021-05-22 10:09:48	fizzie	Teah.
2021-05-22 10:09:52	fizzie	s/T/Y/
2021-05-22 10:10:20	pinky	ah thanks
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2021-05-22 10:56:00	scoopex	can you recommend a go environment management tool? something compareabl like virtualenv for python?
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2021-05-22 11:50:44	nevivurn	scoopex: huh, what problem does something like virtualenv solve for go that isn't handled by modules?
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2021-05-22 13:56:26	pinky	[]byte{0x14} .. that should be a ^T right?
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2021-05-22 13:57:47	rewt	pinky: yes
2021-05-22 13:58:26	pinky	ah ok thx, and a \r should be the same as a ^M ..
2021-05-22 13:58:35	pinky	so i don't see what my problem is
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2021-05-22 14:00:13	rewt	i'm guessing your problem is that something's not working as expected ;)
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2021-05-22 14:00:28	pinky	right :)
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2021-05-22 14:02:14	pinky	i am sending 10 bytes to Write() for a tcp connection .. ^T08402202ff22ff74\r
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2021-05-22 14:02:48	pinky	not having the expected behavior, but i can use netcat, and i can do control-V + control-T, then paste 08402202ff22ff74, then control-v + enter
2021-05-22 14:02:51	pinky	and that works
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2021-05-22 14:04:41	pinky	when i say + above i mean, one key after the other
2021-05-22 14:07:00	Gnuman	pinky, is it not sending what you want it to send, or are you not getting the response from the server that you expect?
2021-05-22 14:07:05	rewt	how are you sending the bytes to Write()?
2021-05-22 14:07:24	pinky	not getting the expected response, i guess i should listen on the remote end with netcat to see what its getting
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2021-05-22 14:08:09	pinky	rewt: https://play.golang.org/p/awCkBhD98v2
2021-05-22 14:08:17	rewt	or packet capture (tcpdump/wireshar) instead of netcat
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2021-05-22 14:08:23	rewt	+k
2021-05-22 14:10:54	rewt	ctrl-v + enter should be \x0a, not \x0d
2021-05-22 14:11:31	rewt	\n
2021-05-22 14:11:47	pinky	hm i thought its ^M
2021-05-22 14:11:51	pinky	thats how vi prints it
2021-05-22 14:12:10	rewt	or hmm... maybe \r\n
2021-05-22 14:12:29	pinky	tried that too
2021-05-22 14:12:45	pinky	but what i'm getting when looking with ngrep or tcpdump -X or nc -l does not look right ..
2021-05-22 14:13:01	pinky	is there some encoding stuff i have to do?
2021-05-22 14:14:21	Gnuman	\r == ^M == 0x0d; \n == ^J == 0x0a
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2021-05-22 14:14:42	pinky	[]byte{0xd} doesn't help either
2021-05-22 14:14:55	rewt	what does the network capture show when it "works"?
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2021-05-22 14:17:04	Gnuman	pinky, I believe when you press "enter" in netcat, it sends a \n, so you may actually be sending \r\n in your netcat test instead of \r
2021-05-22 14:17:23	pinky	tried \r\n also :(
2021-05-22 14:17:59	Gnuman	pinky, what is actually being sent, according to tcpdump? "does not look right" is pretty vague
2021-05-22 14:18:07	pinky	# nc -v -l -p 3001 | hexdump -C
2021-05-22 14:18:07	pinky	listening on [any] 3001 ...
2021-05-22 14:18:07	pinky	connect to [127.0.0.1] from localhost [127.0.0.1] 50946
2021-05-22 14:18:07	pinky	00000000  14 30 38 34 30 32 32 30  32 66 66 32 32 66 66 37  |.08402202ff22ff7|
2021-05-22 14:18:07	pinky	00000010  34 0d 0a                                          |4..|
2021-05-22 14:18:09	pinky	00000013
2021-05-22 14:18:16	pinky	thats using a test shell script which uses netcat and works
2021-05-22 14:18:27	pinky	thats me stopping the server process and running netcat in its place
2021-05-22 14:18:30	pinky	now let me see what go is sending
2021-05-22 14:20:05	rewt	that has \r\n on the end
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2021-05-22 14:23:34	pinky	00000000  14 08 40 22 02 ff 22 ff  74 0d 0a                 |..@"..".t..|
2021-05-22 14:23:35	pinky	0000000b
2021-05-22 14:23:44	pinky	thats non working
2021-05-22 14:24:01	Gnuman	lol I think I see the problem
2021-05-22 14:24:05	pinky	so not nearly as many bytes?
2021-05-22 14:24:15	rewt	you're sending different things
2021-05-22 14:24:17	Gnuman	your ^T, 0xd, and 0xa are fine =)
2021-05-22 14:24:29	pinky	oh its supposed to be in ascii?
2021-05-22 14:24:32	pinky	lol
2021-05-22 14:24:48	Gnuman	pinky, so uh.... in nc, you're sending decimal characters, and in go, you're sending hex digits
2021-05-22 14:24:55	pinky	facepalm
2021-05-22 14:25:33	pinky	so need to encode this to a byte array of characters i guess
2021-05-22 14:25:44	rewt	no, it's just plain text
2021-05-22 14:25:53	pinky	i construct it as a byte array
2021-05-22 14:26:00	rewt	and that's the problem
2021-05-22 14:26:08	pinky	well i need to, doing all sorts of binary math on things
2021-05-22 14:26:22	pinky	but then i guess it has to be represented as ascii
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2021-05-22 14:28:30	Gnuman	pinky, what about this? `fmt.Printf("%x %x\n", '8', '4')`
2021-05-22 14:29:03	Gnuman	oh, I see... yeah, if you're doing math, you'll have to convert it to ascii. maybe use Itoa?
2021-05-22 14:29:42	pinky	yeah it starts out as all bits, now i guess it needs to be characters :( like literal "FF" for 0xff
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2021-05-22 14:29:58	pinky	but sprintf does it?
2021-05-22 14:30:11	pinky	looking up Itoa
2021-05-22 14:30:48	Gnuman	pinky, ah, so you just need to convert into a hexidecimal string
2021-05-22 14:30:56	pinky	yeah seems like sprintf is the thing
2021-05-22 14:30:58	pinky	let me try
2021-05-22 14:31:50	pinky	or actually Fprintf since i'm writing it
2021-05-22 14:32:35	Gnuman	I guess Itoa only does decimal (base 10). I misunderstood what you were trying. Fprintf should do the trick
2021-05-22 14:33:33	pinky	thanks for the help .. this was dumb of me :)
2021-05-22 14:33:37	Gnuman	pinky, also, check out encoding/hex in case it's more of what you need.
2021-05-22 14:33:42	Gnuman	https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/hex/
2021-05-22 14:33:47	Gnuman	pinky, yw =)
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2021-05-23 07:40:04	nooga	hi, I'm trying to add a target to the Go compiler (a new POSIX compatible OS @ 386), looking for some documentation - does anybody know any literature or commits that I could learn from?
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2021-05-23 07:45:47	+Aram	there's no documentation.
2021-05-23 07:45:47	+Aram	there are commits to be inspired from, but they are old.
2021-05-23 07:45:47	+Aram	when we were still using the C toolchain.
2021-05-23 07:45:47	+Aram	(I authored several ports and targets.)
2021-05-23 07:45:47	+Aram	what OS is this?
2021-05-23 07:46:10	+Aram	if it's just a new OS, rather than a new ISA, and it's POSIX compatible, it's not too difficult.
2021-05-23 07:46:32	+Aram	depends on how the OS does system calls.
2021-05-23 07:46:36	+Aram	so what OS is this?
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2021-05-23 07:48:29	nooga	Aram: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity
2021-05-23 07:49:51	+Aram	does it use ELF?
2021-05-23 07:49:57	+Aram	how does it do system calls?
2021-05-23 07:49:57	nooga	it does
2021-05-23 07:52:01	+Aram	anyway, the code has changed too much, I don't particularly recommend looking at previous commits.
2021-05-23 07:52:04	+Aram	happy to answer any questions (if I have the time).
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2021-05-23 07:52:24	+Aram	many unix-like systems don't actually have a POSIX kernel interface.
2021-05-23 07:52:31	+Aram	they only expose POSIX in libc.
2021-05-23 07:52:57	+Aram	if that's the case, and libcis dynamically linked, that's the easiest way.
2021-05-23 07:55:19	nooga	it has its own libc and the syscall interface uses int 0x82
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2021-05-23 07:55:26	+Aram	if it's statically linked, you are out of luck, and you need to implement the non-POSIX kernel interface.
2021-05-23 07:57:33	nooga	that's not out of question tbh but I'm still browsing Go src tring to figure out where to start with this, I think the first step would be to add new GOOS value and make it produce ELFs that load on Serenity
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2021-05-23 08:00:39	+Aram	yes, you need to add a new GOOS, and you need to add support for serenityos in the linker.
2021-05-23 08:07:34	+Aram	but that's just busywork.
2021-05-23 08:07:34	+Aram	first you need to come up with a plan about how the Go runtime will interract with SerenityOS.
2021-05-23 08:07:37	+Aram	which means looking at the syscall ABI.
2021-05-23 08:07:40	+Aram	basically you need to make the decision on whether to use libc or not very early. this is the most fundamental decision, really.
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2021-05-23 08:15:00	nooga	so looks like libc is dynamically linked and not super exotic
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2021-05-23 08:15:50	nooga	seems like it's worth going down the libc route
2021-05-23 08:16:20	+Aram	maybe.
2021-05-23 08:16:20	+Aram	if the syscall interface is POSIX, there is no point in going through libc.
2021-05-23 08:16:56	+Aram	though that is unlikely.
2021-05-23 08:16:56	+Aram	of all unix-like systems that we support, only Linux has a POSIX-like syscall interface (mostly).
2021-05-23 08:20:56	nooga	syscalls on Serenity go through LibSystem which exposes syscall() function to invoke arbitrary system calls, they can have up to 3 args so some of them will pass a struct to the kernel, they return negative values (e.g. -ENOENT) for errors
2021-05-23 08:21:22	nooga	syscall numbers most definitely don't match Linux's though
2021-05-23 08:21:48	nooga	but it's still reasonably close to what you'd see on other *nixes, no NtCreateFile stuff ;)
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2021-05-23 08:23:26	+Aram	I mean the native syscall interface.
2021-05-23 08:23:26	+Aram	if it goes through some LibSystem, that is not the native syscall interface, and is of no consequence to Go.
2021-05-23 08:23:29	+Aram	the fact that LibSystem exists at all,makes me think the naitve syscall interface is nothing like POSIX.
2021-05-23 08:23:50	nooga	so, if I understand you correctly, I'm going to either use Serenity libc or write a bunch of code that calls LibSystem's syscall() from Go and glue it to the API?
2021-05-23 08:24:20	+Aram	no
2021-05-23 08:24:42	+Aram	you either have to use libc, or do syscalls yourself.
2021-05-23 08:25:00	+Aram	in no case should you use LibSystem
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2021-05-23 08:25:17	+Aram	perhaps the native syscall interface is unstable, or undocumented.
2021-05-23 08:25:18	+Aram	you just check for that.
2021-05-23 08:25:18	+Aram	in that case, you have to use libc.
2021-05-23 08:25:34	nooga	here's how syscalls are invoked: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Kernel/API/Syscall.h and here's how they're handled on the kernel side https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Kernel/Syscall.cpp
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2021-05-23 08:26:11	+Aram	yeah, you need to do that from Go (if you go through that route).
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2021-05-23 08:27:04	nooga	oh yes, right, the syscall interface is totally unstable
2021-05-23 08:27:18	nooga	going through the libc would be preferable just for this reason
2021-05-23 08:27:21	+Aram	then you can't use that.
2021-05-23 08:27:30	nooga	good call
2021-05-23 08:27:41	+Aram	which is unfortunate, because the syscall API looks more unix-like that I expected
2021-05-23 08:29:57	+Aram	if you use libc, and libc is dynamically linked, you should just follow what the solaris and aix ports do, because they are ELF and use libc with a POSIX interface.
2021-05-23 08:30:14	+Aram	the biggest differences will be with stuff like netpoll.
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2021-05-23 08:47:55	kinduff	does anyone know a library to convert string currency to an integer?
2021-05-23 08:48:11	kinduff	i saw the pkg accounting, and lots of options for formating an int into currency format
2021-05-23 08:48:23	kinduff	but nothing the other way, for example $12.23 => 12.23 int
2021-05-23 08:48:33	kinduff	but that actually supports all currencies
2021-05-23 08:48:58	kinduff	"49,64€" => 49.64
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2021-05-23 08:49:54	kinduff	anwering myself: no pkg needed, just regex
2021-05-23 08:52:30	nooga	Aram: I took a better look at what various ports do and it seems like netbsd is using that other non-libc way? Doesn't look terribly different to what would be needed for Serenity. I'm having problems figuring out what's where in the codebase though. Seems like OS specific stuff is pretty scattered across many packages
2021-05-23 08:53:21	+Aram	the only unix targets using libc are solaris, aix, and darwin.
2021-05-23 08:53:29	+Aram	netbsd has a stable kernel interface.
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2021-05-23 08:54:58	nooga	right
2021-05-23 08:55:01	+Aram	the systems that are using libc, are doing so because it's the only stable kernel interface.
2021-05-23 08:55:04	+Aram	the fact that libc is POSIX, is just an accident really (that can help with other ports).
2021-05-23 08:55:24	nooga	you also mentioned the linker, where should I look?
2021-05-23 08:55:36	+Aram	the original system like that was solaris (I did the port).
2021-05-23 08:55:36	+Aram	aix came later, and darwin was converted to do the same just because the code was portable.
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2021-05-23 08:55:52	+Aram	mostly in cmd/ld
2021-05-23 08:56:11	+Aram	cmd/link rather
2021-05-23 08:56:34	+Aram	src/cmd/link/internal/ld/
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2021-05-23 08:58:00	dntreou	Hello everyone, I am wondering if its possible to use structs and interfaces in ordcer to determine the type of data I want ot use as an input argument
2021-05-23 08:58:06	dntreou	is there a name for suuch thing
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2021-05-23 09:08:26	mrig	dntreou: you might like to look up reflection.
2021-05-23 09:08:49	mrig	I am not certain whether this is what you are looking for, but it does sound like it.
2021-05-23 09:09:10	mrig	Hello
2021-05-23 09:09:46	mrig	I am having a little difficulty in understanding the error messages received when running go get -u on updated packages.
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2021-05-23 09:10:04	mrig	I have received this error message: ../../../pkg/mod/github.com/8i8/session@v0.0.0-20210523094049-132456081c3d/ram/ram.go:78:3: non-bool "github.com/8i8/log".Level("github.com/8i8/log".DEBUG) (type "github.com/8i8/log".Level) used as if condition
2021-05-23 09:10:37	mrig	but have updated the use of the log package withing the package that I am currently updating to the most recent version.
2021-05-23 09:11:28	mrig	log.Level is now a type and log.Is replaces the function in the control flow that is expecting a boolean.
2021-05-23 09:11:51	mrig	oh perhaps in need to clear the mod cache.
2021-05-23 09:13:40	mrig	Ah that seems to have resolved the issue.
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2021-05-23 09:38:30	shibumi	This is not really go related, but do you have any idea how to map percent numbers on each other. For example:
2021-05-23 09:38:34	shibumi	· Clouds=0% => Solar Farm outputs at 100% Capacity
2021-05-23 09:38:36	shibumi	· Clouds=100% => Solar Farm outputs at 10% Capacity
2021-05-23 09:38:46	shibumi	Is this a linear regression?
2021-05-23 09:39:09	shibumi	Or what type of mapping can I use here to calculate the energy output via the clouds percentage
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2021-05-23 09:41:56	A_D	output is inversely proportional to clouds to a minimum of 10%
2021-05-23 09:43:14	shibumi	A_D: is there a name for that calculation? That i could google or how do I tackle this?
2021-05-23 09:44:14	A_D	output = max(10, 100-cloudsPercent)
2021-05-23 09:44:18	A_D	would probably work
2021-05-23 09:44:23	A_D	that isn't go source, midn
2021-05-23 09:44:26	A_D	mind*
2021-05-23 09:44:31	shibumi	Mh thanks
2021-05-23 09:44:43	shibumi	Yes, i know. I know what I am looking for now
2021-05-23 09:44:49	A_D	but this is assuming your panels have a linear number
2021-05-23 09:44:51	mrig	shibumi: you might like to look up linear function.
2021-05-23 09:45:11	mrig	assuming that it is linear, you would need more data to determine that :)
2021-05-23 09:45:23	shibumi	I searched for  inversily proportional at google.
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2021-05-23 09:46:43	mrig	shibumi: if you can get your solar panels to drop from 100% when there is 90% cloud cover, you could be onto something big!
2021-05-23 09:48:30	shibumi	It's a university homework. (Not mine, though). I just got asked if i have a solution and I said "no", but i still wanted to know how to tackle this, because I started thinking about this afterwards.
2021-05-23 09:48:41	shibumi	I think it can be assumed that the function is linear
2021-05-23 09:48:48	shibumi	But i am happy with your answers already.
2021-05-23 09:49:23	mrig	functions are pretty cool things.
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2021-05-23 09:50:58	mrig	shibumi: how would altering the sample rate of your data effect the nature of the question?
2021-05-23 09:52:30	mrig	a phase shift of 180 degrees for example.
2021-05-23 09:52:43	+Aram	why would you assume a linear relationship.
2021-05-23 09:53:06	mrig	Yes that is quite an assumption to make.
2021-05-23 09:53:13	+Aram	there simply isn't enough data in the problem as stated, but the relationship is anything but linear.
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2021-05-23 09:53:59	+Aram	a small cloud over the sun has a much more profound effect than 70% cloud cover with an unobstructed sun.
2021-05-23 09:54:13	+Aram	and clouds are very different, 100% cloud cover could mean very different things.
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2021-05-23 09:55:01	dntreou	mrig:  thank you I am looking in to that now
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2021-05-23 09:58:01	mrig	The angle of incidence of the suns rays to the atmosphere does have a massive effect on penetration of varying wavelengths; So what range of wavelengths effect the panels, and at what phase of the cycle would be interesting to measure and would soon put a halt to the notion of linearity. But you have to start somewhere!
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2021-05-23 10:04:51	dntreou	mrig:  Is reflect something I should be concerned about in a security level, is it bad practice etc?
2021-05-23 10:06:50	mrig	It depends entirely upon the situation, but yes it is an extremely powerful device that should not be used to readily. Only if there is no other way.
2021-05-23 10:07:59	mrig	If I'm not mistaken it is used as a technique in the voyager missions to make corrections in the runtime whilst it is running; Obviously in this situation there is no other choice.
2021-05-23 10:08:45	mrig	dntreou: if it is in setup code, the gob package does this, then it is pretty safe.
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2021-05-23 10:12:30	dntreou	mrig: gotcha
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2021-05-23 10:18:13	A_D	reflect is a powerful tool that is easy to misuse
2021-05-23 10:18:21	A_D	its also incredibly slow for the most part
2021-05-23 10:18:37	A_D	sometimes you need it, eg the gob and json libraries use it extensively to construct objects
2021-05-23 10:18:54	A_D	if something can be done without reflect, it probably should because it'll be less brittle
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2021-05-23 10:44:52	mrig	Oh the use of an options self referential function makes a lot more sense now with inter related modules. :)
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2021-05-23 11:28:23	shibumi	Aram: you are absolutely correct with your assumptions, but this was a university assignment and the task just stated that the relationship of the data is linear (for making things easy, because no extra libraries were allowed)
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2021-05-23 12:21:41	impermanence	does anybody use the module "gen"?  I'm reading an article called "5 useful golang modules for 2021" and it's the first.  But there's already an issue and the code is quite old.  So I'm wondering if the article is just complete bs lol.
2021-05-23 12:22:05	impermanence	the module itself has 1000+ gh starts :-|
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2021-05-23 13:58:35	nooga	thanks Aram! I've been able to start porting
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2021-05-23 14:06:17	+Aram	nooga: good luck.
2021-05-23 14:06:23	+Aram	hit me any time with questions.
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2021-05-23 14:23:48	hoodedfigure	Hey, friends!
2021-05-23 14:23:48	hoodedfigure	Is there a way to send an SQL database into passive mode or so?
2021-05-23 14:23:48	hoodedfigure	I save like 400000 records and it seems to reindex every time so that it takes ages. I don't know if this problem is SQLite-specific.
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2021-05-23 14:27:27	KirkMcDonald	I mean, this seems like more of a SQLite question than a Go question. But perhaps create the index only after building the table? I admit, I don't know a great deal about sqlite indexes; I don't even know if it uses a hash or a btree or what.
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2021-05-23 14:31:47	hoodedfigure	KirkMcDonald: you are probably right that I should ask elsewhere. But I'm using golang "database/sql", that is why I'm asking in this room.
2021-05-23 14:33:02	KirkMcDonald	Sure, but I expect this behavior is going to depend on sqlite alone, and you'd get the same regardless of the interface.
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2021-05-23 14:47:04	hoodedfigure	bye, KirkMcDonald
2021-05-23 14:47:18	hoodedfigure	Thanks for the chat xD
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2021-05-23 15:45:46	a2800276	are you doing individual inserts? Place them in a transaction and indxing should only happen after the final commit.
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2021-05-23 16:36:18	velix	Hmm. This doesn't build static binaries here: `-ldflags='-extldflags=-static'` - is this only possible when using `CGO_ENABLED=0` ?
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2021-05-23 20:11:17	impermanence	anybody use go-kit?
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2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Topic for #go-nuts is "we are also on irc.libera.chat, if freenode dies | golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?"
2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Topic set by Aram (~aram@9front.army) on Wed, 19 May 2021 13:34:12
2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Channel #go-nuts: 506 nicks (0 ops, 2 voices, 504 normals)
2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	PvNotice(ChanServ): Please follow the Go Community Code of Conduct when chatting here. See https://golang.org/conduct
2021-05-24 18:38:29	--	Channel created on Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:22:37
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2021-05-24 18:42:15	--	Topic for #go-nuts is "we are also on irc.libera.chat, if freenode dies | golang.org | known issues: golang.org/issue | https://freenode.logbot.info/go-nuts | don't ask to ask, just ask | don't solve problems you don't have | did you check your errors?"
2021-05-24 18:42:15	--	Topic set by Aram (~aram@9front.army) on Wed, 19 May 2021 13:34:12
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2021-05-24 20:11:00	RipFreenode[llf]	SUPPORT LLF (LET'S LEAVE FREENODE) BY ONLY WRITING IN CAPSLOCK FROM NOW. ADD [llf] TO YOUR NICK!
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2021-05-25 02:09:51	mnr200	How do you use sql transaction where you need to call different method ?
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2021-05-25 02:51:27	b0nn	mnr200: Have you got some code you can share?
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2021-05-25 02:52:13	b0nn	Generally, though, a BEGIN is issued, then you do stuff™then you issue a COMMIT, and the DB understands that the transaction began and ended
2021-05-25 02:52:38	iateadonut	b0nn, do you have ™ mapped to a key?
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2021-05-25 03:20:40	mnr200	b0nn, consider in your handler you call a method createMember() which creates news member in members table and then you need to call createHouse() method which creates news in houses table, how do you manage transaction here?
2021-05-25 03:21:25	mnr200	I'm considering putting that *sql.Tx in server struct which also holds would that be a bad idea?
2021-05-25 03:25:01	b0nn	so, if I am reading this right - your handler would issue the BEGIN, then the call to createMember() would have it do it's thang, then the call to createHouse() would have it do its thing, then,assuming no error from both of those calls, the handler would call "COMMIT"
2021-05-25 03:25:49	b0nn	Assuming that you need both createMember and createHouse to be in the same transaction
2021-05-25 03:26:23	b0nn	you would need to pass to both the pointer to the connection that the transaction is in though
2021-05-25 03:26:38	mnr200	Yes you got it right, I'm also thinking the same way and also need to pass that tx to that db struct
2021-05-25 03:26:50	mnr200	Yeah right
2021-05-25 03:27:12	mnr200	I was just confused and dindt find a good example
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2021-05-25 03:28:25	b0nn	I would be taking a lot of care around error handling to ensure that the transaction was ended if things went south, because of the (high) risk of it being left hanging
2021-05-25 03:29:15	mnr200	Yeah concerned about the error handling
2021-05-25 03:31:43	b0nn	You'll have to check if there's a timeout on the transaction
2021-05-25 03:33:11	mnr200	oh okay
2021-05-25 03:34:00	mnr200	b0nn, so I'm following the code structure from the Ben Johnson's article and how would you maintain the transaction with that pattern?
2021-05-25 03:35:16	mnr200	I'm talking about this one https://medium.com/@benbjohnson/standard-package-layout-7cdbc8391fc1
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2021-05-25 03:36:26	b0nn	ok, the fun there is the package boundary, that is, the transaction BEGIN COMMIT and sql is in a DB package, and the handler is in the handler package, and the other functions are in buisness logic packages
2021-05-25 03:37:55	mnr200	I'm not sure I got what you mean exactly
2021-05-25 03:38:08	b0nn	but, your BL is an orchestrator, that is, your handler calls the orchestration method, it tells the DB that it's going to start a transaction, so it asks the DB package to initiate, and return a pointer to the Tx
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2021-05-25 03:38:26	b0nn	oh, ok, this is going to take a bit of work
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2021-05-25 03:40:23	b0nn	The hexagonal (or ports and adaptors) architecture is what his idea is a crude form of
2021-05-25 03:41:14	b0nn	The idea with hex arch is that you have a package that is the central business logic/brains/orchestrator
2021-05-25 03:41:51	b0nn	It should not depend on *any* services
2021-05-25 03:42:28	b0nn	Instead it defines interfaces that services can satisfy
2021-05-25 03:44:29	b0nn	so, the bl is called by the handler, and the BL says DB interface initiate a transaction, Member interface create a member, House interface create a house, pass them to me and I will pass them to the DB to create
2021-05-25 03:44:41	b0nn	and then DB interface end transaction
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2021-05-25 03:45:20	b0nn	Hmm, that createMember and create House is going to be tricky
2021-05-25 03:45:53	mnr200	hmm starting make sense
2021-05-25 03:46:09	b0nn	why is member and house coupled?
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2021-05-25 03:46:25	b0nn	why do they both need to be created at the same time in the same transaction?
2021-05-25 03:47:08	mnr200	It's in the same handler and related to table in one to one manner, it's sort of requirement
2021-05-25 03:48:08	b0nn	Yeah, I'm trying to imagine them as separate services, but I think that the coupling suggests that they are a single service
2021-05-25 03:48:29	mnr200	Yea they are in the same service
2021-05-25 03:49:06	b0nn	Are they ever created separately?
2021-05-25 03:50:09	mnr200	yes they are created separately with different methods
2021-05-25 03:50:43	mnr200	I'm sorry they are not in the same service
2021-05-25 03:50:46	b0nn	yeah I was meaning, are there houses without members and members without houses
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2021-05-25 03:51:51	mnr200	No, it's not
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2021-05-25 03:52:45	b0nn	ok, so they're always created together
2021-05-25 03:52:51	b0nn	that makes life a hang of a lot easier
2021-05-25 03:53:09	b0nn	because (effectively) they're one thing
2021-05-25 03:53:38	b0nn	er, unless there are members with multiple houses, and/or houses with multiple members
2021-05-25 03:54:30	mnr200	You mean moving them into a same service?
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2021-05-25 03:55:52	mnr200	Since they are always excuted together?
2021-05-25 03:56:43	b0nn	well, yeah, they're one thing in the data model
2021-05-25 03:57:01	b0nn	As far as I can tell anyways
2021-05-25 03:57:35	mnr200	right, it's basically one thing
2021-05-25 03:59:13	mnr200	So, I would put a tx in the srevice struct and later call it?
2021-05-25 03:59:29	mnr200	I mean it's the simplest form
2021-05-25 03:59:44	b0nn	do the create methods talk to the DB, or do they collate data from the handler
2021-05-25 04:00:39	b0nn	like I have this feeling that the handler is collecting a ton of data, and some of that you give to the create member handler, that runs off and creates a db entry, then you give some other data to the create house  thing which runs off to the db and creates an entry
2021-05-25 04:01:04	b0nn	I'm trying to avvoid passing a tx about, because it will couple your code to a SQL DB
2021-05-25 04:01:15	b0nn	but I think that, for now, it's the easiest
2021-05-25 04:02:11	mnr200	I'm not talking about passing the tx from the handler though, just passing it when it gets called I think that what you meant in the beginning
2021-05-25 04:03:18	b0nn	Yeah - so in my head things are a bit mixed up
2021-05-25 04:03:56	b0nn	I have a BL that's going to member and house services, but I'm trying to think how they taslk to the DB - directly, or via the BL
2021-05-25 04:04:23	b0nn	or - should the house and member code be a part of the BL
2021-05-25 04:04:31	b0nn	because *that* would be easier
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2021-05-25 04:05:49	mnr200	You mean BL is the handler here, right?
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2021-05-25 04:09:42	b0nn	it could be, yeah
2021-05-25 04:10:06	b0nn	although some people would say the handler is the controller logic, and it calls the bl
2021-05-25 04:10:42	mnr200	I'm thinking of beginning the transaction in the createMember method and passing it to the houseService and call createHouse method
2021-05-25 04:11:13	mnr200	Is that would be good approach?
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2021-05-25 04:13:03	b0nn	because they're so tightly coupled, I don't see why not
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2021-05-25 04:13:45	b0nn	but, if they were to be split, say.. houses could be created independently, so that - I dunno- a member could have multiple houses, you will have an issue
2021-05-25 04:14:14	b0nn	which would lead to an orchestrator being the better place to create the transaction
2021-05-25 04:14:43	b0nn	then - at a later date- you can say to the orchestrator, "create a dozen houses" and there's not much rejigging involved
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2021-05-25 04:15:16	mnr200	so, I'm little confused the orchetrator mthod, like how that would be in code. Do you have any example like that?
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2021-05-25 04:15:18	b0nn	so, it depends how confident you are that they will never be split
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2021-05-25 04:15:52	b0nn	and orchestrator is just a "call this function, handle the error, call this function, handle the error, done"
2021-05-25 04:16:10	b0nn	it's just the "boss"
2021-05-25 04:16:10	mnr200	Right not it would work, not sure what happens in future lol
2021-05-25 04:16:13	mnr200	oh okay
2021-05-25 04:16:46	mnr200	And that goes to a different pacakge, right?
2021-05-25 04:16:54	b0nn	my orchestraors are often just glue
2021-05-25 04:17:35	b0nn	yeah - diff package
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2021-05-25 04:17:48	mnr200	Or it could work in the db package?
2021-05-25 04:17:50	b0nn	be mindful of the package boundaries though
2021-05-25 04:17:51	mnr200	oh okay
2021-05-25 04:18:25	b0nn	The hard part about package boundaries is knowing what you can and cannot pass across them
2021-05-25 04:18:54	mnr200	I'm pretty confused about that right now
2021-05-25 04:19:14	b0nn	I mean, you define what is transferred, but - how you do that can create dependencies, or ugliness and shims
2021-05-25 04:19:46	b0nn	hmm I'm trying to think what's a good thing to read/watch to help you out
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2021-05-25 04:21:16	mnr200	Sure, that would be really helpful
2021-05-25 04:21:49	b0nn	A lot of this is SOLID, Data transfer objects, and hexagonal architecture
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2021-05-25 04:22:14	b0nn	Uncle Bob has a nice video on SOLID that primes you well
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2021-05-25 04:25:35	mnr200	okay great, that's give me start to research on that, I wasn't sure what design pattern actually it is, although I like the isolation of code
2021-05-25 04:25:54	b0nn	This might be worth starting with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ZqNQdJPjc
2021-05-25 04:26:03	mnr200	So it's a hexagonal architecture
2021-05-25 04:27:00	mnr200	okay will watch that, I have a very basic understanding on SOLID principle though from Dave Chaney's video
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2021-05-25 04:27:49	mnr200	Thanks for sharing it an giving me the guidelines
2021-05-25 04:27:54	b0nn	the biggest principle to be awre of is Dependency reversal
2021-05-25 04:28:02	b0nn	which is what interfaces afford you
2021-05-25 04:28:17	b0nn	and they make it *so* easy to avoid dependency in your BL
2021-05-25 04:30:03	mnr200	okay will keep that in mind
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2021-05-25 04:38:50	mnr200	After getting these thing working I'm gonna write about in details with pattern :)
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2021-05-25 06:24:01	mort	Hey, so I have some dependencies on a private repository which need to use SSH instead of HTTPS. So far, I have used the recommended approach of using ~/.gitconfig to rewrite HTTPS URLs to SSH for the particular host. However, I'm in a situation now where I really don't want to modify the global git config.
2021-05-25 06:24:07	mort	Is there a way to do this locally instead?
2021-05-25 06:24:22	mort	For some reason, go doesn't seem to pick up the same setting in .git/config
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2021-05-25 07:43:08	shunkica	I need to replace multiple elements in the middle of a slice with a single element and this is what I came up with: https://play.golang.org/p/uNMr4XrsXBW any suggestions?
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2021-05-25 07:46:09	sztanpet	you can elide the second append
2021-05-25 07:46:38	sztanpet	oh, no, you cant
2021-05-25 07:47:57	sztanpet	also, https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/SliceTricks#filter-in-place
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2021-05-25 08:00:10	shunkica	Wouldn't the append inside append be better than filter in this case? https://play.golang.org/p/6zKP3g43nob
2021-05-25 08:01:14	sztanpet	define better
2021-05-25 08:02:01	shunkica	faster or more resource efficient
2021-05-25 08:02:05	sztanpet	if you are optimizing for performance, write benchmarks https://dave.cheney.net/2013/06/30/how-to-write-benchmarks-in-go
2021-05-25 08:02:58	sztanpet	i think the loop is clearer and i would be surprised to see this being a bottleneck but maybe
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2021-05-25 08:04:01	sztanpet	also, the filter one doesnt allocate a new slice so less gc pressure
2021-05-25 08:04:36	sztanpet	but maybe the other one doesnt either, i dont know whether the compiler can optimize it away or not
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2021-05-25 08:19:26	shunkica	Interesting. If the slice has more then 4000 elements then ReplaceAppend is faster, if it is under 4000 elements then ReplaceFilter is faster.
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2021-05-25 08:20:40	shunkica	But ReplaceFilter is 2x slower with 10.000 elements
2021-05-25 08:23:04	shunkica	Actually I did the benchmark wrong because I made a new slice every time in the loop. Now that I moved it outside of the loop ReplaceApend is 10x faster
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2021-05-25 11:22:38	gpeskens	Is there a way I can limit interface to certain types?
2021-05-25 11:22:58	gpeskens	*interface{}
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2021-05-25 11:28:01	sztanpet	gpeskens https://tour.golang.org/methods/15
2021-05-25 11:28:09	sztanpet	also look at the next chapter, type switches
2021-05-25 11:28:37	gpeskens	Yes I know those, I meant where it's taken as an argument, or when part of a struct.
2021-05-25 11:28:52	gpeskens	(to take advantage of golangs compile time typing)
2021-05-25 11:29:37	sztanpet	you explicitly opt out of said typing by using interface{}
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2021-05-25 11:44:14	whoami	gpeskens: i don't understand what is being asked
2021-05-25 11:44:20	whoami	you could define an interface and accept that instead of interface{}
2021-05-25 11:44:56	whoami	https://tour.golang.org/methods/9
2021-05-25 11:46:09	icholy	gpeskens: there is no way to do what you're asking for
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2021-05-25 11:47:53	icholy	gpeskens: however, it may be possible in the future. The generics proposal is extending interfaces with type lists. If these were allowed to be used outside of type parameter contraints, it could be used as a sum-type (which is what you're asking for).
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2021-05-25 13:12:58	eric_hill	I have a need to generate a dozen or so restful client functions and was wondering if there was any off the shelf codegen that people here would recommend.
2021-05-25 13:13:39	eric_hill	GET/PUT/POST, json in, json out, and a few headers around auth and request params.  Pretty stock.
2021-05-25 13:13:58	icholy	eric_hill: 12 params doesn't seem like enough to justify codegen
2021-05-25 13:14:04	icholy	s/params/functions
2021-05-25 13:14:40	eric_hill	I don't disagree.  I just haven't looked at the codegen space, so was just wondering if there was something super new and cool I should look at :)
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2021-05-25 13:15:21	eric_hill	I found an older Reddit post that talked about some swagger tools and gRPC Gateway.  Haven't touched either yet.
2021-05-25 13:15:58	icholy	eric_hill: if you control both server/client swagger/openapi would be the best option
2021-05-25 13:16:13	albertito	eric_hill: I looked recently, couldn't find anything reasonable for a small project, ended up hand coding it. Let me know if you find anything else that isn't swagger or grpc gateway
2021-05-25 13:16:18	eric_hill	Unfortunately I only control the client.
2021-05-25 13:16:50	icholy	eric_hill: either https://github.com/dave/jennifer or text/template
2021-05-25 13:17:09	fizzie	gpeskens: icholy: I think I saw someone somewhere do https://play.golang.org/p/r8WRci651jF to use interfaces to denote "one of this specific list of types", but I don't think I'd go that far.
2021-05-25 13:18:14	eric_hill	icholy: hadn't heard of jennifer.  Interesting concept.
2021-05-25 13:20:07	icholy	fizzie: that works if you control the types
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2021-05-25 13:22:17	albertito	eric_hill: if you do it by hand, fwiw, https://play.golang.org/p/XZblH12PbNP went a very long way for me in simplifying the responses
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2021-05-25 13:23:20	eric_hill	albertito: hah, that's pretty similar to one of the boilerplate functions I wrote for functions 1, 2, and 3, and that's when I started trying to figure out if there was a better way to do this.
2021-05-25 13:23:48	icholy	I usually go with func Do(method, url string, req, res interface{}) error
2021-05-25 13:25:11	icholy	req -> json request body, json response body -> res
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2021-05-25 13:25:46	icholy	allow passing nil req to omit the request body
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2021-05-25 13:29:18	icholy	individual methods end up looking like this: https://play.golang.org/p/ya2iFwrdOIF
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2021-05-25 13:38:35	eric_hill	icholy: yea, that's probably my best option right now. Tx.
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2021-05-25 14:14:48	CustosLimen	are there any organizations like eclipse/apache for golang, who adopt projects so the projects are not tied to particular people?
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2021-05-25 14:25:01	icholy	CustosLimen: there's nothing preventing the apache foundation from adopting Go projects
2021-05-25 14:29:56	Dieterbe	CustosLimen, icholy CNCF comes to mind
2021-05-25 14:30:13	Dieterbe	https://www.cncf.io/
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2021-05-25 14:47:18	CustosLimen	but they don't really look at libraries
2021-05-25 14:48:49	CustosLimen	or maybe they do and I just have not noticed
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2021-05-25 16:02:51	CustosLimen	maybe not the right place to ask, but as far as I can tell if I add a Unary and Stream server interceptor they both get called for every unary method: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-go/tree/master/examples/features/interceptor
2021-05-25 16:03:06	CustosLimen	And the stream interceptor only gets called once
2021-05-25 16:03:15	CustosLimen	Maybe it is right, just not what i expected
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2021-05-25 18:19:13	CustosLimen	can I somehow get go test to not capture stdout/err
2021-05-25 18:19:22	CustosLimen	just just dump it out directly
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2021-05-25 19:12:05	jacklong	the first version of go compiler is written in which language ?
2021-05-25 19:13:17	Teckla	jacklong: C
2021-05-25 19:13:28	jacklong	not c++?
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2021-05-25 19:46:48	jacklong	 is that gccgo
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2021-05-25 20:19:26	cispra	jacklong: not sure what it is you try to achieve
2021-05-25 20:19:31	cispra	but you seem to be confusing a few things here
2021-05-25 20:20:21	cispra	the first compiler implementation was written in C (not C++) ; this is quite a normal approach (research compiler bootstrapping), since 1.5 the go compiler is written in Go
2021-05-25 20:20:46	cispra	gccgo is a go compiler frontend (written in C++)
2021-05-25 20:20:57	cispra	you can read up on all of it here https://golang.org/doc/faq#What_compiler_technology_is_used_to_build_the_compilers
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2021-05-25 21:06:18	MrFantastik	hey folks, I've been using https://gitlab.com/reedrichards/tarbr/-/blob/master/main.go as a utility to automate making tarred brotli archives
2021-05-25 21:06:45	MrFantastik	I'm consistently getting and error: panic: archive/tar: missed writing 8 bytes
2021-05-25 21:06:45	MrFantastik	 
2021-05-25 21:07:04	MrFantastik	is it safe to catch this error and continue?
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2021-05-25 21:08:21	MrFantastik	fyi the error is raised on line 54 here https://golang.org/src/archive/tar/writer.go
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2021-05-25 22:24:15	nevivurn	MrFantastik: hm, that sounds wrong. I can't immediately see where you're missing 8 bytes, though.
2021-05-25 22:30:59	nevivurn	MrFantastik: that code has a few mistakes, though; it doesn't check the input `err` from filepath.Walk, data isn't closed (!!), tar.FileInfoHeader() call is wrong
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2021-05-26 01:09:03	--	Mode #go-nuts [+o danderson] by ChanServ
2021-05-26 01:09:16	--	Mode #go-nuts [-t] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:20	--	Mode #go-nuts [-s] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:23	--	Mode #go-nuts [-p] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:09:23	--	Mode #go-nuts [-n] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:11:53	--	danderson has changed topic for #go-nuts from "This channel has moved to ##go-nuts. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies" to "" ""
2021-05-26 01:11:55	--	Mode #go-nuts [-i] by lionman
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2021-05-26 01:12:13	@danderson	lionman: I got it from here, thanks! And sorry for the bug, I was holding chanserv wrong
2021-05-26 01:12:16	@danderson	figured it out eventually
2021-05-26 01:12:32	lionman	np
2021-05-26 01:12:33	lionman	cheers
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2021-05-26 01:12:40	--	Mode #go-nuts [-Ccfjmr] by danderson
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2021-05-26 01:12:48	b0nn	.
2021-05-26 01:12:53	@danderson	well, here we are...
2021-05-26 01:12:56	b0nn	\o/
2021-05-26 01:13:01	KirkMcDonald	ahaha
2021-05-26 01:13:34	@danderson	so, I can't use the L-word, but the official channel is definitely that other one. And given how things have been going here, I'm going to go ahead and wrap up affairs and retire the channel properly, I think.
2021-05-26 01:14:14	@danderson	so, if y'all haven't already, I encourage y'all to head roughly in that direction.
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2021-05-26 01:15:29	jemaclus	i'm more of a smooth traveler, myself
2021-05-26 01:15:41	@danderson	smooth travel is also currently permitted.
2021-05-26 01:16:25	jemaclus	whew
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2021-05-26 01:16:55	KirkMcDonald	"Moseying welcome."
2021-05-26 01:17:29	jemaclus	whoa, look at mr rebel over here
2021-05-26 01:17:34	jemaclus	let's not get carried away with the moseying
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2021-05-26 01:18:00	KirkMcDonald	How about a saunter?
2021-05-26 01:18:18	@danderson	keep the sauntering jolly, or I'll have to check your sauntering license
2021-05-26 01:19:15	jemaclus	wow, mood police much
2021-05-26 01:19:28	@danderson	THERE WILL BE NO DISSENT
2021-05-26 01:19:37	@danderson	jolliness is mandatory.
2021-05-26 01:19:40	b0nn	Disdollar?
2021-05-26 01:19:48	b0nn	Disreceived?
2021-05-26 01:19:53	b0nn	Disdadjokes?
2021-05-26 01:19:57	jemaclus	who dis
2021-05-26 01:20:16	@danderson	okay, what channel flags am I supposed to set on this cursed network
2021-05-26 01:21:15	--	Mode #go-nuts [+Cctr] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:21:20	A_D	what do you want to do?
2021-05-26 01:21:21	@danderson	something like that, apparently.
2021-05-26 01:21:37	A_D	you probably want n
2021-05-26 01:21:38	@danderson	A_D: I mean... be happy? That'd be nice.
2021-05-26 01:21:42	@danderson	oh, you mean for channel modes
2021-05-26 01:21:48	jemaclus	don't worry!
2021-05-26 01:21:48	A_D	danderson: I don't think theres a channel mode for that
2021-05-26 01:21:54	--	Mode #go-nuts [+n] by danderson
2021-05-26 01:22:03	@danderson	yup, missed n when scanning my list, thanks
2021-05-26 01:22:05	bookworm	... wat a shit show
2021-05-26 01:22:14	A_D	mmmaybe T or whatever the block outside notices one is as well
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2021-05-26 01:22:18	bookworm	thanks for the recovering
2021-05-26 01:22:22	--	Notice(A_D): otherwise I can do this
2021-05-26 01:22:43	hoodedfigure	Oh hey, someone's still on freenode :O
2021-05-26 01:22:50	jemaclus	God, is that you?!
2021-05-26 01:22:52	--	danderson has changed topic for #go-nuts from "" "" to "See https://golang.org/help/ for official support channels"
2021-05-26 01:23:00	@danderson	hoodedfigure: that's an unconfirmed rumor
2021-05-26 01:23:25	hoodedfigure	I joined by accident. Some other project didn't migrate :(
2021-05-26 01:23:56	b0nn	ok, but how did A_D go purple
2021-05-26 01:24:04	jemaclus	with great enthusiasm and gusto!
2021-05-26 01:24:09	LambdaComplex	hey danderson are you that person who works for that wireguard vpn company that i'm too tired to remember the name of
2021-05-26 01:24:13	A_D	b0nn: you mean the "i can do this" line?
2021-05-26 01:24:15	@danderson	I know the feeling. I'm just here to tidy up and turn the lights off. I can't say the L-word without being smited by the Korean royal family, but go-nuts is over there now
2021-05-26 01:24:16	LambdaComplex	or do i have you confused with someone else
2021-05-26 01:24:19	b0nn	ya
2021-05-26 01:24:41	A_D	it was a channel notice
2021-05-26 01:24:45	b0nn	oh
2021-05-26 01:24:50	@danderson	LambdaComplex: yeah, that's me, Tailscale is the word you're thinking of
2021-05-26 01:24:58	A_D	danderson: *alleged korean royal family
2021-05-26 01:24:58	LambdaComplex	...i totally knew that
2021-05-26 01:25:01	bookworm	get a better client b0nn ;P
2021-05-26 01:25:08	@danderson	A_D: not seeing a button to block those in the manpage
2021-05-26 01:25:13	A_D	the clown prince doesn't have any true right to that throne
2021-05-26 01:25:16	hoodedfigure	danderson: good to know, I'm gonna leave then xD
2021-05-26 01:25:19	A_D	danderson: I think its T
2021-05-26 01:25:28	hoodedfigure	cyall on the other side
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2021-05-26 01:25:44	@danderson	A_D: nope, freenode doesn't know T
2021-05-26 01:25:50	A_D	then I dunno
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2021-05-26 01:26:06	A_D	oh well, good enough I think?
2021-05-26 01:26:33	@danderson	yeah, I'm aiming for a base level of "the next spambot wave won't hit too hard"
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2021-05-26 01:26:54	A_D	you could +q $~a?
2021-05-26 01:27:07	A_D	and list that you need to be registered to speak in the channel
2021-05-26 01:27:15	@danderson	registered I already have
2021-05-26 01:27:22	@danderson	what's the $~a?
2021-05-26 01:27:49	A_D	same thing, $ = extended ban, ~ = negate, a = account, nothing else = quite all users without an account
2021-05-26 01:28:01	A_D	already set
2021-05-26 01:28:04	A_D	[07:27:50] * #go-nuts Banlist: Thu Mar 25 19:50:03 2021 $~a egan.freenode.net
2021-05-26 01:28:08	@danderson	ah, I think we're good then, yeah
2021-05-26 01:28:22	@danderson	and +r prevents unregistered users from joining
2021-05-26 01:28:39	bookworm	which is redundant then
2021-05-26 01:30:03	@danderson	eh s'fine, this all probably adds up to approximately a configured channel
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2021-05-26 02:10:01	p_l	danderson: So, when is the ceremonial torching planned?
2021-05-26 02:10:30	@danderson	p_l: when golang.org no longer points here. I'm coordinating that with Go folks now
2021-05-26 02:10:46	@danderson	then I'll give it a little while for new joins to organically move over, and pull the plug
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2021-05-26 02:12:47	bookworm	good plan
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2021-05-26 02:43:35	p_l	I'd do similar, but there's no common ground for such info in Lisp community
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2021-05-26 02:50:09	Foxboron	What a fucking trash fire.
2021-05-26 02:51:42	@danderson	a good old 90s IRC torching. Makes you feel young again!
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2021-05-26 04:29:43	CoolerX	HI
2021-05-26 04:29:59	CoolerX	when writing golang templates
2021-05-26 04:30:14	CoolerX	do you have to use the index function for keys that have spaces in them?
2021-05-26 04:30:44	CoolerX	{{ index .Values.foo "bar baz" "aaa" "ccc ddd eee" "imagetag" }}
2021-05-26 04:31:26	CoolerX	is there an alternative like simply quoting the keys? {{ .Values.foo."bar baz"."aaa"."ccc ddd eee"."imagetag" }}
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2021-05-26 04:35:32	A_D	CoolerX: you will want to use libera.chat for golang help, its the official channel now
2021-05-26 04:35:43	A_D	as for actually quoting the keys, I don't think so
2021-05-26 04:35:59	CoolerX	A_D, libera?
2021-05-26 04:36:09	A_D	its another IRC network
2021-05-26 04:36:22	A_D	irc.libera.chat, #go-nuts
2021-05-26 04:37:12	cjd	A_D has quit (klined (mentioning other irc network is off-topic))
2021-05-26 04:38:36	KekSi	:x
2021-05-26 04:39:05	A_D	cjd: lol
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2021-05-26 04:39:55	cjd	;)
2021-05-26 04:43:46	pgloor	Get live support at #go-nuts on irc.freenode.net, the official Go IRC channel. (https://golang.org/help/)
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2021-05-26 04:48:59	@danderson	we're working on changing the link on golang.org. Hence keeping the lights on here while we get that done.
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2021-05-26 05:13:16	albertito	danderson: thank you
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2021-05-26 05:20:57	mort	Wait, just yesterday this channel had the libera channel in its topic
2021-05-26 05:21:00	mort	what happened?
2021-05-26 05:21:15	@danderson	freenode staff nuked all channels that had the word "libera" in their topic.
2021-05-26 05:21:19	@danderson	which includes 700+ OSS projects.
2021-05-26 05:21:25	@danderson	including #go-nuts :)
2021-05-26 05:21:43	mort	So it's confirmed them
2021-05-26 05:21:49	@danderson	after much gnashing of teeth, I managed to claw the channel back from the new network operators, but... Pretty hostile move designed to prevent people from leaving freenode.
2021-05-26 05:21:52	mort	it's just a hostile take-over
2021-05-26 05:22:11	mort	and we should all ditch freenode ASAP right
2021-05-26 05:22:36	@danderson	pretty much. The only reason I'm still here is to keep the lights on with #go-nuts until golang.org points to libera.
2021-05-26 05:28:04	mort	May I create a thread somewhere and quote you? I feel like this should be widely known
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2021-05-26 05:30:49	mort	Just a couple of lines about how #go-nuts and over 700 other projects' channels were nuked
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2021-05-26 06:13:15	Aram	mort: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@kline/106299403921451814
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2021-05-26 07:03:32	iivvoo	hmm yeah time to leave then I guess. See you on the other side!
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2021-05-26 07:50:52	DaftMonk	hi
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2021-05-26 08:18:59	 *	DaftMonk is trying to find IDE that runs in OBSD
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2021-05-26 08:28:20	lluad_	DaftMonk, You might want to head over to libera.chat, where tis channel has migrated to. (But vi and VSCode are two popular free, portable environments for Go, while Goland is a very solid commercial one)
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2021-05-26 08:30:07	DaftMonk	Yeah oroblem is what works in openbsd
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2021-05-26 08:34:58	lluad_	I believe all three do to some extent, but irc.libera.chat:6697 is where you're likely to find people who're actually using them there.
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2021-05-26 08:39:49	nebiros	https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/nlap4r/the_irc_channel_has_moved_to_elixir_ircliberachat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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2021-05-26 08:40:53	DaftMonk	VSCOde uses electron, which is not supported
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2021-05-26 08:42:35	nebiros	daftMonk: what about new sublime text?, add lsp support and gopls, works pretty good
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2021-05-26 08:57:53	hgl	how is scanning sql result into nested struct like County{ Name: "us"; Cities: []City{...}} conventionally solved in go? I find doing it manually really complicated. Is the problem usually solved in a different way or if there is some way to automate it?
2021-05-26 08:58:26	lluad_	hgl, Several ways, but most commonly either via an ORM or via code generation.
2021-05-26 08:59:13	hgl	i heard ORM is going to generate slow sql once the structs grow complex, how is code generation done?
2021-05-26 09:00:00	lluad_	https://gorm.io or github.com/georgsavva/scany (as examples more than recommendations)
2021-05-26 09:00:19	lluad_	An ORM is fine for simple operations, regardless of the size of the struct.
2021-05-26 09:00:32	hgl	thanks, checking them out
2021-05-26 09:00:39	hgl	the second one seems to be 404
2021-05-26 09:01:18	lluad_	Using an ORM-centric design can lead to inefficient database schema and sql queries if you try and do anything too fancy with it - but many apps don't need much more, as long as you can escape from the ORM to do raw SQL in the rare cases you need it.
2021-05-26 09:01:54	hgl	that makes sense, maybe i should give ORM a try
2021-05-26 09:01:55	lluad_	Should be georgysavva, I think. (copy and paste has stopped working on my machine for some inexplicable reason ...)
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2021-05-26 09:02:20	lluad_	Which database are you using?
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2021-05-26 09:03:04	hgl	postgres
2021-05-26 09:03:45	lluad_	github.com/go-pg/pg is well worth a look as an ORM, then. (And pgx works very nicely with scany, if you go that route)
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2021-05-26 09:06:39	lluad_	hgl, You'll find much more expertise over on #go-nuts (and maybe #postgresql) on irc.libera.net:6697, though. That's where this channel has gone.
2021-05-26 09:06:50	lluad_	irc.libera.chat, I mean
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2021-05-26 09:07:37	hgl	oh, i have seen the message if i recall correctly. is freenode moving there?
2021-05-26 09:08:16	lluad_	Freenode has been taken over by ... people you don't want to be running your IRC service. Most of the OSS channels and most of the freenode staff are now over on libera.chat.
2021-05-26 09:09:06	hgl	got it, thanks for the heads up
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2021-05-26 10:22:38	icholy	did any of the chan ops get kicked?
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2021-05-26 10:23:17	drigo-alencar	hi, where I can find information about how to do benchmark and read output? I read the go docs but still confused
2021-05-26 10:23:43	icholy	drigo-alencar: which part are you stuck on?
2021-05-26 10:24:33	icholy	drigo-alencar: also https://dave.cheney.net/2013/06/30/how-to-write-benchmarks-in-go
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2021-05-26 10:26:54	drigo-alencar	mostly on how to read the output and cmd line options like benchtime
2021-05-26 10:28:25	icholy	drigo-alencar: so the testing.B.N is how many times the benchmark function should run the operation you're measuring
2021-05-26 10:28:56	icholy	drigo-alencar: `123 ns/op` output means that, on average, an operation takes 123 nanoseconds
2021-05-26 10:30:08	icholy	drigo-alencar: you shouldn't need to explicitly set benchtime
2021-05-26 10:30:39	icholy	drigo-alencar: it will automatically figure out a good N for you
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2021-05-26 10:58:54	drigo-alencar	I'm trying to bench a case where the database could be the bottleneck so, I put the function that use the db into benchmark the way I imagine is that on one point errors will appear as there is N threads accessing the db but is performing very well
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2021-05-26 11:08:31	vtx	hi folks o/ can anyone recommend a file watcher for go? specifically i'm interested in one that works well with docker-compose etc
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2021-05-26 11:30:45	domino14	when are we moving
2021-05-26 11:31:03	siXy	domino14: Most people are already on the new channel.
2021-05-26 11:31:07	pepee	there is a channel there already
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2021-05-26 12:19:16	domino14	this channel is still bigger than the other one
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2021-05-26 12:23:24	pepee	welcome to IRC. you will see lots of "people" idling for months at a time
2021-05-26 12:23:31	jemaclus	maybe. how many here are idling or orphaned bouncers? at least everyone on libera is new as of the last two weeks
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2021-05-26 12:24:16	fizzie	I was going to suggest the real metric is amount of on-topic conversations per hour, but that's a little harder to measure, especially since the main topic on every channel these days is this meta-talk about networks.
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2021-05-26 12:38:19	Gnuman	speaking just for myself, I'm in the [network that must not be named] #go-nuts chat for actual Go discussion, and I'm only here to watch the freenode drama unfold.
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2021-05-26 13:00:24	MrHall	Hi! Do you know some library to generate swagger.json with open api v3? Or should i create it by hand?
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2021-05-26 13:06:01	@danderson	MrHall: hey! You probably want to join irc.libera.chat and ask that on #go-nuts there. This channel is moribund, we're working on updating the golang.org link. Sorry for the confusion!
2021-05-26 13:06:18	@danderson	the local network operators don't want us advertising the new home in the topic, so we're left with this confusing mess
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2021-05-26 13:08:44	pepee	what about /notice'ing users who enter this channel?
2021-05-26 13:08:50	pepee	danderson, ^
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2021-05-26 13:09:21	@danderson	I'm sure there's a chanserv config for doing that, but I have to also do work, in addition to watching freenode die :(
2021-05-26 13:12:57	pepee	yeah, it fucking sucks to see it die...
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2021-05-26 13:13:56	MrHall	Thanks
2021-05-26 13:14:04	MrHall	I did not know that
2021-05-26 13:14:11	MrHall	I will enter to this network
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2021-05-26 13:20:05	@danderson	MrHall: yw! And I think there are libraries to generate swagger files, I'm sure the other channel will be able to help
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2021-05-26 13:34:11	eric_hill	So is the general consensus to move over to <new network>?  Or is this just going to be two homes for a while?
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2021-05-26 13:36:33	siXy	eric_hill: former. most folks seem to have moved.
2021-05-26 13:36:49	internut	moved? where?
2021-05-26 13:36:51	@danderson	yeah, people have already voted with their feet, it's all over but the updating of golang.org
2021-05-26 13:37:01	@danderson	to #go-nuts on libera.chat
2021-05-26 13:37:13	internut	never heard of libera.chat
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2021-05-26 13:37:58	@danderson	ah, you missed the fun. Freenode underwent a hostile takeover by (I'm not joking) the disputed crown prince of both koreas.
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2021-05-26 13:38:06	eric_hill	Search the recent news about Freenode ownership, and a big amount of fallout based on that
2021-05-26 13:38:14	@danderson	the entire freenode staff quit, and founded libera.chat.
2021-05-26 13:38:28	siXy	Very disputed as neither korea are aware that they have a monarchy at all.
2021-05-26 13:38:46	siXy	But I'm sure it makes a lovely bit of paper to glue to the wall.
2021-05-26 13:38:59	@danderson	yeah, I'm the disputed crown prince of mars, it turns out
2021-05-26 13:39:27	 *	siXy grins
2021-05-26 13:39:30	@danderson	anyway. Bottom line, libera.chat is "freenode from 3 weeks ago" under a new name. Freenode today is under a new management who's busily burning the place down
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2021-05-26 13:39:58	@danderson	last night they nuked this channel on the basis of some new policy they just made up and never wrote down, and cost me 3h of prodding them to get it back
2021-05-26 13:40:43	@danderson	so, as soon as golang.org is updated to point at libera.chat, this channel's getting flushed. The only reason I'm keeping it around right now is because golang.org still points here and I want to be able to point people to the new home
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2021-05-26 13:43:33	internut	so, when you say 'hostile takeover', do you mean by technical means? or they bought it?
2021-05-26 13:44:06	@danderson	that's heavily disputed. The new management claims the network was sold to them, and that a contract exists.
2021-05-26 13:44:21	internut	what does teh old management say about that?
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2021-05-26 13:44:48	@danderson	however, there is evidence to suggest that the network wasn't part of the sale (only some sponsorship-related things), and that the person who "sold" it didn't actually own it in the first place.
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2021-05-26 13:45:11	@danderson	So, it's a giant mess, and the only way to find out for sure would be a long and vindictive court battle to establish the legitimacy of the sale
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2021-05-26 13:46:08	@danderson	the former staff decided they couldn't afford that court case financially, since they're all unpaid volunteers. So they resigned instead and formed a non-profit to run libera.chat on firm legal grounds (i.e. "no, you can't sell this one, we have documents this time")
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2021-05-26 13:46:35	internut	I see
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2021-05-26 13:46:53	@danderson	honestly there's a bunch of "they said they said" going on. On balance I tend to believe the libera folks (i.e. the former freenode staff), but regardless of that, the new management is going off the deep end in more ways than one
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2021-05-26 13:47:12	@danderson	and freenode is frankly no longer a safe place to host any community that aims to be inclusive
2021-05-26 13:47:38	siXy	internut: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ might be helpful if you want something more written-in-the-press than a bunch of gists
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2021-05-26 13:47:59	KirkMcDonald	Honestly, I find that most of the discussion about matters, and the confusion about why Lee is so disliked, misses the point.
2021-05-26 13:48:14	Shawn	New management is nuking any channel that has moved to libra chat, removing the channel topic and creating a new channel with an extra # to keep users here
2021-05-26 13:48:16	Shawn	Shit's wild
2021-05-26 13:48:25	@danderson	if they'd been vaguely reasonable and kept things going mostly unchanged, I probably wouldn't care. But they're taking action that makes it clear they view freenode as an absolute monarchy, where the word of the new owner is law.
2021-05-26 13:48:38	@danderson	IMO, he's welcome to his little kingdom, but I'm out, and taking all the communities I can with me.
2021-05-26 13:48:58	internut	pretty nuts
2021-05-26 13:49:21	KirkMcDonald	Though there's less confusion now that Lee has been so publicly demonstrating his, uh, level of competence at community management.
2021-05-26 13:49:29	@danderson	KirkMcDonald: it was just amusing drama to me until last night. The nuking of channels for daring to mention another IRC network is an egregious violation of the social contract, and it's now personal to me.
2021-05-26 13:49:30	siXy	Also things like new staff being rizon ops, which is more or less 4chan-on-irc.
2021-05-26 13:50:00	@danderson	and yes, regardless of anything else, the new staff is basically incompetent. It's complete clown college, through and through.
2021-05-26 13:50:34	KirkMcDonald	But the original issue is simply this: The old Freenode staff was essentially anarchic and self-organized. There was already discontent at the suggestion that this guy was saying, "I own you now."
2021-05-26 13:51:01	KirkMcDonald	For that to move to, "I own you, so do what I say," was wholly unacceptable.
2021-05-26 13:51:55	@danderson	and for all the talk of creating a democratic process for participating in network ops, last night the "owner" unilaterally nuked 700+ channels of open source projects on a whim, without even informing his new staff.
2021-05-26 13:52:37	@danderson	the result was several hours of shitshow while the few staff present scrambled to figure out wtf had happened, what their king wanted, and so forth
2021-05-26 13:53:11	@danderson	all the while having enraged some of the largest remaining IRC OSS communities on the planet. So, good job at that new management thing.
2021-05-26 13:54:15	KirkMcDonald	That so much of the conversation is centered on Freenode being sold entirely misses the point. What got sold? Some hardware? A database of names and channels? As the re-founding of the community at libera.chat shows, the important thing is the thing you can't pay money to acquire.
2021-05-26 13:55:17	KirkMcDonald	Like. This is the free software movement. Why would we want the guy with the money telling us what to do?
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2021-05-26 14:16:37	@danderson	there, stick that in your regex killfile and smoke it, rasengan
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2021-05-26 16:37:36	rasenqan	-server notice- All references to libera.chat are now subject to network-wide ban (k-line)!
2021-05-26 16:39:24	ghostbuster	liar
2021-05-26 16:39:44	jemaclus	lol
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2021-05-26 17:00:51	jemaclus	I mean, it was somewhat believable, so...
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2021-05-26 17:09:34	jemaclus	danderson: fwiw, the sidebar on Reddit /r/golang still shows freenode as well. I pinged the mods so maybe they'll change it soon.
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2021-05-26 17:38:08	b0nn	jemaclus: If they don't answer you on reddit (or the change is taking too long) - all three are active on twitter
2021-05-26 17:38:35	b0nn	Peter is the most active, then Damian, then occassionally Nate
2021-05-26 17:38:51	b0nn	ahhh that didn't feel "stalkery" at all
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2021-05-26 17:56:53	--	Mode #go-nuts [+q DyingFreenode!*@*] by danderson
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2021-05-26 18:38:23	Freman	hmm there's a rest interface for just about everything online - I can even count how long a string is, why hasn't anyone that does a sleep :P
2021-05-26 18:38:52	Freman	https://example.com/sleep/random/30/60
2021-05-26 18:39:47	Gnuman	it makes me sad that people use online REST interfaces to do simple things that don't even require an operating system.
2021-05-26 18:41:22	 *	Freman shrugs, I just wanted to POC a concept and had to knock out a php script to simulate a delay (I don't control anything else, half of it is amazon lex, the other half is a flow language the supports remote requests but nothing slepey)
2021-05-26 18:41:35	nemith	see you guys on the other side
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2021-05-26 18:44:44	Freman	doesn't apparently have a rand function either
2021-05-26 18:51:46	 *	b0nn randomly falls asleep *all the time*
2021-05-26 18:52:15	b0nn	Freman: have you heard of our lord and saviour libera.chat?
2021-05-26 18:52:30	Freman	I hear that's where you can talk with other priests
2021-05-26 18:52:45	Freman	it also annoyed the crap out of my wife to have my laptop dinging all night
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2021-05-27 05:52:19	TheDude2600	Can anyone suggest a name for the package that contains encoded commands and messages that get exchanged between the client and server
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2021-05-27 06:00:36	b0nn	TheDude2600: Strongly recommend you read the topic
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2021-05-27 06:04:20	TheDude2600	go it
2021-05-27 06:04:24	TheDude2600	got*
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2021-05-27 12:55:25	j416	here we go.
2021-05-27 12:55:34	j416	danderson: is it time? https://github.com/golang/website/commit/9c84c7effa02 -> https://golang.org/help
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2021-05-27 14:07:44	@danderson	j416: it's time. I'll give it until end of my local day in case stragglers show up, but otherwise it's time
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2021-05-27 15:57:00	 *	b0nn will actually be sad to say goodbye to freenode :(
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2021-05-27 16:08:25	@danderson	As golang.org/help now says, this community's primary home is now on libera.chat. The community there is much larger and more active than the one here, so if you're looking for Go help, your best bet is over there.
2021-05-27 16:09:03	@danderson	I'll be retiring this channel shortly, after a grace period to let people decide where they want to remain. Then I'll figure out the correct way to wind up affairs here.
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2021-05-27 16:14:58	b0nn	I think this account of mine has been open 15 or 16 years - almost to the day, it was created on 26 May IIRC
2021-05-27 16:15:39	b0nn	(I only know because a friend ran a whois - that I cannot replicate) that tells the account creation date
2021-05-27 16:15:55	b0nn	damned brackets are damned
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2021-05-27 16:18:08	dr0n	Hello all, what would be the best way to discover a duplicated character in a string; I was thinking about using nasted loop
2021-05-27 16:18:26	dr0n	but the result is not what I expected
2021-05-27 16:18:36	dr0n	https://play.golang.org/p/DaDpxlTlHch
2021-05-27 16:18:38	dr0n	any tips
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2021-05-27 16:19:45	b0nn	dr0n: My best advice is for you to take heed of the topic
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2021-05-27 16:21:27	dr0n	oh!
2021-05-27 16:21:38	dr0n	that is interesting
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2021-05-27 16:22:56	b0nn	once you have registered over there, join the go-nuts channel and I'll tell you a couple of things about your code :)
2021-05-27 16:24:11	dr0n	just connecting, thanks b0nn, speak over there
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2021-05-27 16:54:36	abyx	Kind of a long shot here but: I'm using the Lumberjack v2 logging rolling package in a windows executable that's running as a "Local Service". For some reason none of my logs are being written to file. I can read/write files just fine if I do it directly, but this package doesn't seem to want to actually write to disk. The package works fine on MacOS, and Windows when NOT being executed as a service. Kind of at a loss here.
2021-05-27 16:55:53	theckman	abyx: please see the link in the topic; you might have more luck asking for help after reading that.
2021-05-27 16:57:01	abyx	oh, wow. Thanks for the heads up
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2021-05-27 20:24:11	jemaclus	I think j416 pointed it out, but the golang website is updated to point to the other site: https://golang.org/help
2021-05-27 20:26:07	jemaclus	Reddit still hasn't updated
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2021-05-27 21:25:37	@danderson	jemaclus: yup. Planning to put things in order here tonight.
2021-05-27 21:25:48	@danderson	Not sure who runs the subreddit, I don't think it's an official watering hole?...
2021-05-27 21:25:51	@danderson	I'll reach out to them.
2021-05-27 21:27:16	@danderson	jemaclus: hmm, where does reddit point to here? I'm not seeing it on golang.reddit.com
2021-05-27 21:29:43	jemaclus	https://www.reddit.com/r/golang
2021-05-27 21:30:11	jemaclus	it's in the sidebar. I pinged the mods and I also pinged @peterbourgon on Twitter but no response yet.
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2021-05-27 21:31:26	b0nn	danderson: I can only see it when I look at the old reddit -old.reddit.com/r/golang
2021-05-27 21:31:31	@danderson	ah, hm
2021-05-27 21:32:27	jemaclus	oh, yeah, i'm on old reddit
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2021-05-27 21:32:46	jemaclus	I keep forgetting there's a new reddit :)
2021-05-27 21:33:08	@danderson	wow yeah, old reddit is so much better
2021-05-27 21:33:14	jemaclus	right?
2021-05-27 21:33:17	@danderson	I guess I switched at some point and then never went back
2021-05-27 21:34:26	b0nn	I only know because a lot of old schoolers link to old.reddit.com - I've only ever really used the new format
2021-05-27 21:34:27	jemaclus	I guess maybe it doesn't matter. fewer and fewer people are on old reddit, so
2021-05-27 21:35:36	jemaclus	it's weird that none of those links in the sidebar are on new reddit
2021-05-27 21:35:57	jemaclus	my mobile app shows the sidebar though
2021-05-27 21:36:05	jemaclus	so it's worth having them update if we can get them to do it, probably.
2021-05-27 21:36:57	b0nn	It's worth updating, given 1) it's wrong and 2) the swings and roundabouts means that one day reddit might come back to being the front page of the internet
2021-05-27 21:37:17	b0nn	I mean, look at /. and HN is ... dying ish
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2021-05-27 23:23:34	jemaclus	looks like @peterbourgon updated Reddit! https://d.pr/i/yOM7Cm
2021-05-27 23:32:46	@danderson	ah yeah, he replied to me on reddit
2021-05-27 23:32:47	@danderson	sweet
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2021-05-27 23:47:41	@danderson	jemaclus: still around?
2021-05-27 23:50:02	@danderson	b0nn: still around?
2021-05-27 23:50:18	b0nn	 yup
2021-05-27 23:50:27	@danderson	can I /query real quick?
2021-05-27 23:50:50	@danderson	need someone to check my homework
2021-05-27 23:51:02	b0nn	ok, what do I need to do?
2021-05-27 23:51:36	b0nn	responded
2021-05-28 00:00:39	@danderson	arright folks, golang.org/help made it official, so I'm winding down this channel. See y'all on the other side, on the IRC network that must not be named!
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