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2021-05-12 22:16:08	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
2021-05-12 22:16:08	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
2021-05-12 22:16:08	--	Channel #git: 1000 nicks (1 op, 1 voice, 998 normals)
2021-05-12 22:16:10	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-12 22:19:35	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
2021-05-12 22:19:35	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
2021-05-12 22:19:35	--	Channel #git: 1000 nicks (1 op, 1 voice, 998 normals)
2021-05-12 22:19:37	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-12 22:21:13	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
2021-05-12 22:21:13	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
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2021-05-13 04:09:31	Xeroine	what am I doing wrong here https://i.imgur.com/kh0sD94.png if I create a file while I've selected the branch custom the files and their contents are still in the master branch, why?
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2021-05-13 04:13:34	Xeroine	nevermind
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2021-05-13 04:14:08	bookworm	for starters you're pasting an image of text instead of the text itself
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2021-05-13 04:16:25	Xeroine	I know I just thought it'd be easier to see if it was colored
2021-05-13 04:16:40	Xeroine	see and understand*
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2021-05-13 04:51:11	zitter	hi, if I do a $git add mydir && $git commit -m 'mydir added' I have "Your branck is up to date with 'origin/master' but... 1) in Repository there is no mydir directory 2) $git ls-files doesnt show mydir either... any suggestion^
2021-05-13 04:52:07	zitter	maybe I have to remove index cache and re-add mydir?
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2021-05-13 06:06:32	binTrl	Hello, I found out --base=master in git-format-patch creates a nice base base-commit id but it also goes on to create the prerequisite-patch-id for commits *after* the base commit. The patch I'm working on in totally independent of patches *after* the base commit. Is there a way to let git know that no prerequisite patches are required than the base commit itself ?
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2021-05-13 07:13:13	cousteau	I messed up.  I rewinded a branch (git reset --hard) but forgot to tag the current commit, which I didn't want to lose forever
2021-05-13 07:13:25	cousteau	Any chance to recover the commit I was at?
2021-05-13 07:13:41	cousteau	Guess reflog could help?
2021-05-13 07:13:43	osse	git reflog
2021-05-13 07:13:51	cousteau	Thx
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2021-05-13 07:14:40	osse	git reflog branchname will show you what commit it was
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2021-05-13 07:14:48	osse	most likely it's branchname@{1}
2021-05-13 07:16:43	cousteau	Oofff, thanks!
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2021-05-13 07:20:21	cousteau	ok, and NOW, after tagging the old commit and cherry-picking it where I wanted, I can delete the tag
2021-05-13 07:20:35	 *	cousteau isn't good at rebasing 
2021-05-13 07:21:36	cousteau	Deleting the tag tells me which commit it was.  Why couldn't git reset do the same?
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2021-05-13 07:25:05	osse	i see now reason why it couldn't. it just hasn't been implemented
2021-05-13 07:25:08	osse	*no reason
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2021-05-13 07:27:12	cousteau	I mean, maybe it should?  (I'm not sure though; in my case it would have helped but I don't know if it would be needed in general)
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2021-05-13 07:39:57	supay	is it good practice to store code of multiple languages in a single repo? we're using microservices.. and different services are written in different languages (java/js/php).. if not, what would be a good way to do that?
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2021-05-13 07:41:08	ikke	git does not care
2021-05-13 07:41:25	bremner	depends how tightly coupled the different services are
2021-05-13 07:41:48	bremner	If you have to update them at the same time, they should be in the same repo
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2021-05-13 07:43:29	supay	ikke, that makes sense
2021-05-13 07:44:12	supay	bremner, yes.. it's not bad practice to put them all together right? i was only concerned that they're in different languages
2021-05-13 07:44:44	supay	we *may* have to update different services at the same time.. so i guess that would imply the necessity as well?
2021-05-13 07:44:45	bremner	many non-trivial projects are a mix of languages
2021-05-13 07:45:06	supay	this is actually a pretty big project..
2021-05-13 07:45:11	bremner	C-libraries + python bindings + bash scripts etc...
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2021-05-13 07:45:17	bremner	it's not really a new concept
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2021-05-13 07:45:49	bremner	it's all just text files from git's point of view
2021-05-13 07:46:07	supay	ohhh, that's very true. i've put in shell scripts together with other code in the past and never thought that that's exactly what i'm doing
2021-05-13 07:46:19	supay	bremner, hehe, linus says everything is a file! :D
2021-05-13 07:46:30	supay	that makes a lot of sense, thanks for clearing that up for me
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2021-05-13 07:47:23	ikke	It might make sense to put them together
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2021-05-13 07:47:49	trevarj	quick question: if i have a feature branch B that is waiting to be merged onto main branch A, and in the meantime i want to work off of B, on the next feature branch C, is this a normal workflow? what do i do when B is merged into A and i want to make a pull request for C into A ?
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2021-05-13 07:49:00	supay	trevarj, yes. that's pretty usual
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2021-05-13 07:53:50	trevarj	but...
2021-05-13 07:54:14	trevarj	do i just rebase C onto A when B is in A?
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2021-05-13 07:56:25	supay	trevarj, i don't think that's necessary
2021-05-13 07:56:33	supay	you can probably just merge
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2021-05-13 07:59:33	trevarj	supay ok great, that makes sense. thanks
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2021-05-13 08:43:58	BtbN	Is there a way to do kind of a half-shallow clone? As in, still have full commit history, so that git describe gives propper version info, without having all the actual old files?
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2021-05-13 08:47:53	wallbroken	hello
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2021-05-13 08:48:03	wallbroken	is there a way to ignore updates of a file?
2021-05-13 08:48:11	wallbroken	i'll explain you the problem
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2021-05-13 08:48:29	wallbroken	in my project there is a file which contains the parameters like password and userid
2021-05-13 08:48:47	wallbroken	i have on githube the "public" version with those personal fields blank
2021-05-13 08:48:51	bremner	!config
2021-05-13 08:48:51	@gitinfo	[!configfiles] It is recommended to store local configuration data in a file which is not tracked by git, but certain deployment scenarios(such as Heroku) may require otherwise. See https://gist.github.com/1423106 for some ideas
2021-05-13 08:49:09	wallbroken	but when i do a commit, those parameters are pushed to the server
2021-05-13 08:49:17	wallbroken	i read that i can do a .gitignore
2021-05-13 08:49:18	wallbroken	yes
2021-05-13 08:49:36	wallbroken	but i should remove also the generic version of that ile from the server
2021-05-13 08:49:41	osse	.gitignore does not work for this. it only avoids adding unwanted files to git, not updating them
2021-05-13 08:52:21	wallbroken	osse: there is a good solution for my problem?
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2021-05-13 08:53:01	bremner	well, there is the link I pasted...
2021-05-13 08:53:11	rudi_s	wallbroken: The simple solution is not to commit the changes.
2021-05-13 08:53:16	bremner	not sure if I would call any of those "good"
2021-05-13 08:54:12	wallbroken	is there a way to tell "never commit the specified file" ?
2021-05-13 08:54:57	osse	not if it's already in git
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2021-05-13 08:56:14	wallbroken	so, there is no solution for my problem, good...
2021-05-13 08:56:48	osse	there are hacks
2021-05-13 08:57:03	osse	the best ways are the ones bremner linked to
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2021-05-13 09:01:53	j416	some of the ideas listed at that link are sane
2021-05-13 09:01:56	j416	but it also suggests using assume unchanged
2021-05-13 09:02:09	j416	not sure why we even link to that
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2021-05-13 09:02:34	 *	j416 looks at canton7
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2021-05-13 09:03:30	canton7	That doc is over a decade old ^^
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2021-05-13 09:03:59	canton7	IIRC it's there so people don't read about assume unchanged on some blog, and think they've discovered an amazing fix-all solution that the author of the doc didn't know about
2021-05-13 09:04:26	canton7	And it does say "Not recommended" and "People who do this normally end up hating it"
2021-05-13 09:04:38	j416	it does say "not recommended" but then it goes to suggests to take a look at it
2021-05-13 09:05:30	wallbroken	osse: what about "staget commits" ?
2021-05-13 09:05:44	canton7	j416, if you've got better wording, I'll happily update
2021-05-13 09:05:46	j416	anyway, it's nice to have something to link to, so thanks for that
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2021-05-13 09:09:09	j416	canton7: maybe, 4. Avoid "git update-index --assume-unchanged" for this purpose. See http://git-scm.com/docs/git-update-index#_notes.
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2021-05-13 09:10:00	j416	not sure if you want to add --skip-worktree too
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2021-05-13 09:12:49	canton7	j416, done, thanks
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2021-05-13 09:15:43	j416	\^^/
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2021-05-13 09:17:33	j416	<3
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2021-05-13 12:03:35	Ademan	if I have the git credential cache enabled for a certain timeout, is there a more elegant way to "keep alive" that cached credential than doing a `git fetch` or something?
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2021-05-13 12:15:06	another	keybased ssh auth?
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2021-05-13 13:46:27	BtbN	How does git fetch --prune-tags work? I still have like almost 100 tags that don't exist on the remote anymore locally.
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2021-05-13 13:47:09	ikke	"if --prune is enabled"
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2021-05-13 13:55:28	ikke	so you need to pass both --prune and --prune-tags
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2021-05-13 15:11:03	nedbat	this might be the most git error message I've ever written:  Not sure how to include merge commits in a rebase cherry-pick
2021-05-13 15:11:47	ikke	lol
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2021-05-13 15:55:51	another	hmm.. is there a way to exclude certain paths from a gitattributes pattern?
2021-05-13 15:57:16	ikke	I don't think so
2021-05-13 15:57:56	tang^	add a .gitattributes file in the path head that resets the pattern
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2021-05-13 16:05:17	another	hmm.. i'll try
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2021-05-13 17:18:23	Samian	hello
2021-05-13 17:18:54	Samian	I type git log to show the commit history. How can I fetch a specific commit?
2021-05-13 17:19:49	Samian	dude I'm a principal engineer and still suck at git. This needs to change asap
2021-05-13 17:20:00	Samian	and this weekend I will change it
2021-05-13 17:20:07	Samian	no longer will I struggle using git!
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2021-05-13 17:31:32	j416	Samian: what do you mean by fetch?
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2021-05-13 17:32:16	Samian	I mean make the source code as if I had a time machine and went back to the time of making the specific commit I want to fetch
2021-05-13 17:32:31	j416	Samian: git checkout <commit>
2021-05-13 17:32:37	Samian	oh..
2021-05-13 17:32:51	Samian	checkout vs fetch I always forget the difference
2021-05-13 17:33:14	Samian	and I dread a detached head!
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2021-05-13 17:33:33	j416	!book
2021-05-13 17:33:33	@gitinfo	There are several good books available about git; 'Pro Git' is probably the best: http://git-scm.com/book but also look at !bottomup !cs !gcs !designers !gitt !vcbe and !parable
2021-05-13 17:33:56	j416	!video
2021-05-13 17:33:56	@gitinfo	[!talks] Some good video talks about Git: [yt] http://goo.gl/z72s (Linus Torvalds: History&Concepts); [yt] http://goo.gl/R9H2q (Scott Chacon: Git basics, live examples); http://vimeo.com/35778382 (Randal Schwartz: Git basics, descriptional); http://vimeo.com/46010208 (Jessica Kerr: Git basics, descriptional)
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2021-05-13 17:47:15	Samian	thanks!
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2021-05-13 17:52:44	Samian	I type git log and it's super long. HOw do I go to the end?
2021-05-13 17:52:53	Samian	right now I hold down the enter button on my keyboard
2021-05-13 17:52:57	Samian	but it takes forever to scroll down
2021-05-13 17:53:31	tang^	turn off the pager?
2021-05-13 17:53:35	tang^	man git-log
2021-05-13 17:53:35	@gitinfo	the git-log manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-log.html
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2021-05-13 17:54:19	Habbie	Samian, press G
2021-05-13 17:54:26	Habbie	Samian, also space is faster than enter
2021-05-13 17:54:36	Habbie	(both of these suggestions assume your pager is 'less' which it usually is)
2021-05-13 17:59:48	Samian	thanks
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2021-05-13 18:00:19	Samian	how do I get rid of this error when trying to switch branches? "error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout"
2021-05-13 18:00:55	Samian	"Please move or remove them before you switch branches."
2021-05-13 18:01:04	Samian	I did a git reset though...
2021-05-13 18:01:48	Samian	I used git tortoise on windows, but new company uses Ubuntu. /me cries
2021-05-13 18:01:49	mackerman	Samian: As it said, move those files out of the way.
2021-05-13 18:02:12	Samian	mackerman,  move them where? fine I'll move them somewhere and see what happens
2021-05-13 18:02:34	mackerman	Whever you want. Delete them if you don't want to keep them.
2021-05-13 18:03:05	Samian	weird. deleting the files worked
2021-05-13 18:03:05	Samian	thanks
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2021-05-13 18:03:17	Samian	man I seriously need to learn git the proper way. I'll read that book
2021-05-13 18:03:46	 *	Samian not knowing git reminds himself of 60 year old coders who type with two fingers.
2021-05-13 18:05:34	mackerman	Most git commands will refuse to do things that cause untracked data loss.
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2021-05-13 20:12:41	Hello71	really? i can't think of any that do
2021-05-13 20:12:48	Hello71	except git clean -f arguably
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2021-05-15 11:03:48	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
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2021-05-15 11:03:48	--	Channel #git: 991 nicks (1 op, 2 voices, 988 normals)
2021-05-15 11:03:59	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-15 11:17:14	scientes	how do i get github to give me something like git format-patch would produce?
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2021-05-15 11:18:28	ikke	append .patch
2021-05-15 11:18:42	scientes	ahh nice
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2021-05-15 14:10:33	velix	Anyone with an idea, why this creates `fatal: bad config line 15`? https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2018/08/27/quick-hack-git-reset-upstream/
2021-05-15 14:11:37	ikke	quoting / escaping error?
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2021-05-15 14:12:14	ikke	note that for these complex scripts, it would be better to create a binary called git-ru in your path
2021-05-15 14:12:52	velix	a "binary"? not a shell script?
2021-05-15 14:13:11	ikke	yes, I should have said, an executable
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2021-05-15 14:13:54	SpeakerToMeat	Hello all
2021-05-15 14:14:31	SpeakerToMeat	Question, can I clone a repository in a way that I only get one single file from said repository and keep up udated with pulls? and to add to that, can I do this in a submodule way?
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2021-05-15 14:16:39	velix	ikke: okay, thanks
2021-05-15 14:18:05	SpeakerToMeat	Hmmm I see it cannot be done, can it?
2021-05-15 14:18:09	SpeakerToMeat	Oh well..... thanks
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2021-05-15 14:23:35	bremner	it cannot be done without waiting more than 5 minutes
2021-05-15 14:23:59	bremner	dunno about submodules, but you could do a narrow checkout
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2021-05-15 14:27:34	SpeakerToMeat	Hmmm
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2021-05-15 14:51:07	ash_worksi	for every new project, do you have to add that project name to gitolite (or w/e)?
2021-05-15 14:51:53	ash_worksi	or do you structure the projects where, somehow a dev can always add new projects to something... a subrepo?
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2021-05-15 14:55:14	bremner	ash_worksi: gitolite supports something called "wild repos"
2021-05-15 14:55:23	bremner	these allow users to create repos.
2021-05-15 14:55:52	bremner	they are not enabled by default.
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2021-05-15 18:39:50	bremner	yes
2021-05-15 18:40:44	bremner	but I'm not really sure what the question is yet, so I don't know if it is too specialized for this channel
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2021-05-15 18:57:24	n0q	I had a question, but I answered it myself before I asked it because I didn't want to look stupid. Thanks, guys!
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2021-05-15 21:23:39	Samian	I need a git cheat sheet
2021-05-15 21:23:43	Samian	I told myself I'd learn git this weekend
2021-05-15 21:24:33	bremner	!book
2021-05-15 21:24:33	@gitinfo	There are several good books available about git; 'Pro Git' is probably the best: http://git-scm.com/book but also look at !bottomup !cs !gcs !designers !gitt !vcbe and !parable
2021-05-15 21:24:52	bremner	or !gittutorial
2021-05-15 21:24:52	another	git status will often tell you what commands to use
2021-05-15 21:25:00	bremner	!gittutorial
2021-05-15 21:25:06	bremner	sigh
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2021-05-15 21:30:57	Samian	no no I want a cheat sheet for series of commands.. Like lets say you're creating a new feature, spot a bug, want to create a bug branch with the code as it is, but continue working on feature branch. If I commit to the feature branch, create the bug branch, and then switch back to the feature branch, my code to the feature branch is now committed instead of uncommited. I'd prefer it to be uncommited so I can diff with last commit to see the changes
2021-05-15 21:32:03	Samian	microsoft word has a "save as" feature letting me save drafts to other files without switching to those other files.. Git doesn't have that. Git's commit capabilities are primitive
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2021-05-15 21:33:16	bookworm	they aren't, your handling of them is
2021-05-15 21:33:33	another	already gone
2021-05-15 21:33:59	bookworm	not that it matters... gotta love that attitude
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2021-05-16 06:05:18	PapuaHardyNet	to any readers, if you want to accomplish what Samian wanted to accomplish, do a git stash
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2021-05-16 06:13:22	cbreak	one of many ways
2021-05-16 06:13:56	cbreak	you could git checkout -b onto a bugfix branch, commit the bugfix only, switch back with git checkout - and leave the bugfix behind
2021-05-16 06:14:39	bookworm	or worktrees
2021-05-16 06:15:26	bookworm	pick your favorite way in other words, the tools aren't the limiting factor
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2021-05-16 06:50:09	amosbird_	Hello, how can I make "git describe --tags --abbrev=0 --exact-match" faster?
2021-05-16 06:50:51	ikke	amosbird_: possibly by enabling commit graphs
2021-05-16 06:51:07	amosbird_	what's the most lightweight way to check if there are unstaged/staged changes?
2021-05-16 06:51:13	amosbird_	Currently I'm using git diff --quiet and it's slow
2021-05-16 06:51:15	amosbird_	ikke: thanks
2021-05-16 06:51:35	ikke	I guess you have a large working tree?
2021-05-16 06:52:11	amosbird_	yes
2021-05-16 06:52:18	amosbird_	and a slow disk
2021-05-16 06:52:22	amosbird_	network disk
2021-05-16 06:52:35	ikke	If you know certain directories will never change, you can use assumeUnchanged for them
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2021-05-16 06:52:49	amosbird_	hmm
2021-05-16 06:53:02	ikke	(the actually valid usecase for assumeUnchanged)
2021-05-16 06:53:14	amosbird_	I see, actually I can just check some given directories
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2021-05-16 07:05:40	crst	Hi, can you reuse the same submodule (.gitmodules) on another path in the project?
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2021-05-16 08:10:23	Rashad	Hello.
2021-05-16 08:10:44	Rashad	What happens if you: cd .git then git init?
2021-05-16 08:11:06	ikke	!tias
2021-05-16 08:11:06	@gitinfo	Try it and see™. You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried. If in doubt, make backups before you experiment (see !backup). http://gitolite.com/tias.html may help with git-specific TIAS.
2021-05-16 08:11:43	Rashad	"Initialized empty Git repository in D:/New folder (3)/.git/.git/"
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2021-05-16 08:13:27	Rashad	wow now I can kinda see how git works inside
2021-05-16 08:16:41	adder`	that's a bold statement to make
2021-05-16 08:18:51	Rashad	OK now I made .git/.git rollback .git to an earlier state...
2021-05-16 08:18:56	Rashad	let's see how .git handles it
2021-05-16 08:20:01	Rashad	It is kind of like a reset
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2021-05-16 08:22:25	Rashad	ok this was anti-climactic
2021-05-16 08:23:30	Rashad	although it was a simple one command from the inner repo to undo many things at the same time on the outer repo
2021-05-16 08:23:39	Rashad	deleted branches, dropped commits, etc
2021-05-16 08:23:45	Rashad	all in one rollback command
2021-05-16 08:24:45	j416	such meta
2021-05-16 08:24:57	Rashad	j416 :D
2021-05-16 08:25:55	Rashad	one problem I had earlier with using git with our source code is that there were so many files that we needed to ignore. Even after writing our first .gitignore file, later we realized there were more files to ignore.
2021-05-16 08:26:45	Rashad	Doing so after the initial commit felt clumsy, so I had to start all over again
2021-05-16 08:27:36	Rashad	If only I knew to meta git then I would have gone into project/.git/.git then reset project/.git with one command
2021-05-16 08:28:05	j416	sounds like you'd be better off learning how to do that with plain git
2021-05-16 08:28:20	Rashad	I am joking of course
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2021-05-16 08:30:19	Rashad	There was this software... a "Node.js real time server" called deepstream which basically synchronizes data and interactions between servers and clients. The software had many powerful elements, but one element which was missing was "granular permissioning" for certain actions (say, a user with country USA should not be able to view products that
2021-05-16 08:30:20	Rashad	do not ship to USA)
2021-05-16 08:30:45	Rashad	But there was a way to implement your own custom permissioning function, but was a little bit too low level.
2021-05-16 08:31:56	Rashad	Eventually I found the best solution was to create another deepstream instance dedicated to tracking permissions alone -- permissions are records like users, products etc, and they are reactive/synchronized between servers and clients. (the reason you couldn't do this with the main instance was that you needed to define permissions before the
2021-05-16 08:31:56	Rashad	server started)
2021-05-16 08:32:31	Rashad	So this is kinda similar with using git to manage git itself
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2021-05-16 08:33:03	Rashad	Maybe git can benefit from such organization? Maybe some operations that git does would become much simpler if .git had its own .git?
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2021-05-16 08:33:36	Rashad	By that I mean the internal git operations, not what the user is seeing
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2021-05-16 08:35:23	Rashad	Maybe a super-undo git command that might even be accessable to the user...
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2021-05-16 08:35:56	Rashad	.git/.git automatically commits after ever .git command, then the user can do: git undo in .git in order to undo whatever they did in the last command
2021-05-16 08:36:37	Rashad	or commits after every change in .git, rather than after every command
2021-05-16 08:36:44	Rashad	anyway, I have to go for now
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2021-05-16 08:57:30	VG234	Hello all. I'm trying to push from git bash windows 10 to windows 10 remote. I'm getting remote: error: unable to create temporary file: Invalid argument. I have plenty of space on the remote server.
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2021-05-16 08:58:47	VG234	Trace is giving this: 08:50:47.195408 trace.c:475             performance: 0.089573500 s: git command: git pack-objects --all-progress-implied --revs --stdout --thin --delta-base-offset --progress
2021-05-16 08:58:48	VG234	08:50:47.630627 pkt-line.c:80           packet:     sideband< \2error: unable to create temporary file: Invalid argument
2021-05-16 08:58:48	VG234	 
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2021-05-16 09:00:54	VG234	git client version is 2.24.1.windows.2
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2021-05-16 09:03:05	VG234	git server 2.30.0
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2021-05-16 09:08:35	VG234	Upgrade to 2.31.1 on the client does not solve it or give any indication of the error.
2021-05-16 09:09:38	VG234	How can I find what temporary file it is trying to create?
2021-05-16 09:10:26	cbreak	VG234: you could try to manually run the command it claims to try to run via trace
2021-05-16 09:12:20	VG234	cbreak: Good question. I can try that if the unpack files remain on the server. Do I just do it from the remote's top level git directory?
2021-05-16 09:12:43	cbreak	that's what I'd try
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2021-05-16 09:13:10	cbreak	is there something like strace on windows?
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2021-05-16 09:15:10	VG234	I'll try to set the git trace there as well. I have to look into windows trace.
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2021-05-16 09:22:00	furrymcgee	there is git+strace in cygwin.org/packages
2021-05-16 09:23:57	VG234	furrymcgee: I do have cygwin on the server, but I might be using Windows ssh. My gitbash on the server, shows the 2.30.0 version. It's taking a bit for me to backup the remote repo.
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2021-05-16 09:30:43	VG234	my git pack-objects just hangs on the server. No trace output.
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2021-05-16 09:32:58	VG234	my TMP dir is set to a cygwin path, but an ls does work.
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2021-05-16 09:35:13	VG234	No spaces in the TMP path.
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2021-05-16 14:15:39	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
2021-05-16 14:15:39	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
2021-05-16 14:15:40	--	Channel #git: 997 nicks (1 op, 2 voices, 994 normals)
2021-05-16 14:15:49	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-16 14:50:50	mefistofeles	hey
2021-05-16 14:50:58	mefistofeles	how to know when a branch was created?
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2021-05-16 14:57:15	bookworm	look at what you are typing ;)
2021-05-16 14:57:22	bookworm	you mean on a remote?
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2021-05-16 14:58:52	mefistofeles	bookworm: yeah
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2021-05-16 14:58:54	bookworm	git ls-remote -h $remote will do
2021-05-16 14:59:05	bookworm	then just compare that to what you have
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2021-05-16 15:20:20	cbreak	mefistofeles: you can't really know when a branch was truly created
2021-05-16 15:20:46	cbreak	you can guess it by looking at the first commit you think was made in the branch
2021-05-16 15:21:18	bookworm	what do you mean by truly created?
2021-05-16 15:21:33	bookworm	if the ref exists it exists no?
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2021-05-16 15:25:08	ikke	_when_
2021-05-16 15:25:52	bookworm	I'm not following
2021-05-16 15:28:39	mefistofeles	yeah, I guess the "when" part is not really easy to know
2021-05-16 15:28:53	bookworm	ooooh, my bad
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2021-05-16 15:28:59	bookworm	you want the time
2021-05-16 15:29:23	bookworm	I understood you want to know *that* a new branch was created
2021-05-16 15:29:28	bookworm	as in, any
2021-05-16 15:29:32	mefistofeles	yes, but I think I'm satisfied with knowing its first commit
2021-05-16 15:29:35	bookworm	so that you have to sync or whatever
2021-05-16 15:29:36	mefistofeles	for this case
2021-05-16 15:30:17	mefistofeles	bookworm: yeah, honestly I didn't follow your answer (git noob) so I couldn't tell :) but it seemed to tackle another question/answer
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2021-05-16 15:39:44	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?""
2021-05-16 15:39:44	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
2021-05-16 15:39:44	--	Channel #git: 1001 nicks (1 op, 2 voices, 998 normals)
2021-05-16 15:39:54	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-16 15:41:49	Soni	how does one load commits into a bare repo?
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2021-05-16 15:42:47	--	Topic set by gitinfo (jast@bot.gitirc.eu) on Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:15:49
2021-05-16 15:42:47	--	Channel #git: 1002 nicks (1 op, 2 voices, 999 normals)
2021-05-16 15:42:50	bookworm	normally you simply push to it
2021-05-16 15:42:57	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
2021-05-16 15:43:01	+s17	git add .
2021-05-16 15:43:05	ikke	Soni: git log should work
2021-05-16 15:43:18	bookworm	s17: without a working tree ? hard to do
2021-05-16 15:43:24	+s17	hi
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2021-05-16 15:43:34	ikke	oh, load commits
2021-05-16 15:43:38	ikke	what do you mean with loading commits?
2021-05-16 15:43:44	bookworm	ha, not just me ;)
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2021-05-16 15:51:46	Soni	maybe git unpack-objects?
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2021-05-16 15:52:22	ikke	Soni: !xy
2021-05-16 15:52:22	@gitinfo	Soni: You are asking about a solution, but we can help you a lot better if you could describe the actual problem you are trying to solve.
2021-05-16 15:52:58	Soni	it's for making unit tests. the bare repo is used for fetching. (you can fetch into a bare repo yeah?)
2021-05-16 15:53:12	Soni	but ideally testing without spawning a whole-ass webserver
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2021-05-16 16:17:11	cbreak	fetching / pushing should work just fine with bare repos.
2021-05-16 16:17:24	cbreak	and git doesn't need any web servers
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2021-05-16 16:24:01	nedbat	I'm trying to figure out how to automate cherry picking a pull request onto another branch: https://nedbatchelder.com/blog/202105/cherrypicking_a_pull_request.html
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2021-05-16 16:24:38	ikke	nedbat: ot, what did you end up using for those graphs?
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2021-05-16 16:25:13	nedbat	ikke: i had an svg library in Python, and I wrote about 100 lines of python to do it.
2021-05-16 16:25:24	ikke	1aha ok
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2021-05-16 17:30:48	Guddu	If i have a file path then can i see the diff between the last 2 commmits on that file?
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2021-05-16 17:36:18	cbreak	Guddu: git log -p -1 -- file
2021-05-16 17:38:09	Guddu	cbreak, Thanks. It just returns without showing anything
2021-05-16 17:38:13	Guddu	Does that mean file not changed?
2021-05-16 17:38:22	Guddu	It sure came in git pull
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2021-05-16 17:39:01	cbreak	maybe it was a merge commit?
2021-05-16 17:40:22	cbreak	git log -- file should show all commits affecting that file
2021-05-16 17:40:33	cbreak	adding -p will show patches along with the commit message
2021-05-16 17:40:42	cbreak	adding -1 will limit to the most recent commit
2021-05-16 17:40:50	cbreak	(in topo order)
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2021-05-16 17:42:29	Guddu	Thanks cbreak
2021-05-16 17:42:33	Guddu	My pathw as wrong ;-(
2021-05-16 17:42:35	Guddu	It works
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2021-05-16 19:18:58	DavidJOwens	Is there a way to go back and edit previous commit messages?
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2021-05-16 19:25:30	+s17	yes
2021-05-16 19:25:38	bookworm	!rewrite
2021-05-16 19:25:38	@gitinfo	Rewriting public history is not recommended. Everyone who has pulled the old history will have to do work (and you'll have to tell them to), so it's infinitely better to just move on. If you must, you can use `git push --force-with-lease <remote> <branch>` to force (and the remote may reject that, anyway). See http://goo.gl/waqum
2021-05-16 19:26:30	bookworm	a bit scary but at least links to the rebase docs
2021-05-16 19:28:33	bookworm	git commit --amend too if you mean the immediate commit
2021-05-16 19:28:43	DavidJOwens	@bookworm, thanks
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2021-05-16 19:35:30	SpeakerToMeat	Hello
2021-05-16 19:35:53	SpeakerToMeat	Can I merge a single commit from one branch into another without having to merge all the ones before? or do I better do a diff and add it as a patch
2021-05-16 19:36:56	j416	SpeakerToMeat: cherry-pick
2021-05-16 19:37:06	SpeakerToMeat	Ok
2021-05-16 19:37:12	SpeakerToMeat	I'll google. thanks
2021-05-16 19:37:21	j416	man git-cherry-pick
2021-05-16 19:37:21	@gitinfo	the git-cherry-pick manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-cherry-pick.html
2021-05-16 19:37:44	SpeakerToMeat	Now, lets say I did a branch, I do some commits, and I cherry pick one commit, can I do some more commits, and then merge the whole thing back to master?
2021-05-16 19:37:51	SpeakerToMeat	even if I already cherry picked one commit?
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2021-05-16 19:37:59	j416	yes, but you'd end up with duplicate commits
2021-05-16 19:38:37	j416	the result (your files) should be the same, apart from the history
2021-05-16 19:39:12	j416	might want to consider rebasing your branch
2021-05-16 19:39:43	 *	j416 -> zzZ
2021-05-16 19:40:09	SpeakerToMeat	rebasing might be a good idea
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2021-05-16 19:44:33	smaeul	is it possible to safely prune an unreferenced packfile _without_ unpacking it?
2021-05-16 19:45:34	smaeul	context: I have a Linux tree that I accidentally fetched all of the tags from android-common into yesterday. I have since deleted the tags, but I run out of disk space (14G free) running `git gc`
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2021-05-16 19:47:27	smaeul	`git repack` fails while unpacking all of the unreachable objects; this eats up a lot of disk space because they are no longer delta-compressed
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2021-05-16 19:51:30	smaeul	I'm hoping there's some command I can use to find the unreferenced packfile (and if I missed a tag and it is still referenced, unpack only the few _reachable_ objects so it can be deleted)
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2021-05-17 00:54:53	ikke	nedbat: are you familiar with git cherry?
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2021-05-17 00:55:19	ikke	man git cherry
2021-05-17 00:55:19	@gitinfo	the git-cherry manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-cherry.html
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2021-05-17 01:07:59	smaeul	I rsynced the tree to another disk so gc could finish. Running `git gc --aggressive` took the repo from 5.5G to 18G. Following that with `git prune` brought it back down to 3.5G
2021-05-17 01:11:34	smaeul	maybe this is an unusual scenario, but having gc more than triple the size of the repository is quite unexpected in any case
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2021-05-17 01:13:30	ikke	It's due to how gc works
2021-05-17 01:13:45	ikke	where objects in packfiles are first written as loose objects
2021-05-17 01:13:58	ikke	and then after aging for 2 weeks, will be pruned
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2021-05-17 02:01:42	untakenstupidnic	what if microsoft decides to inject malicious code in what we clone from github?
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2021-05-17 02:03:35	cbreak	untakenstupidnic: then the hashes will change
2021-05-17 02:03:46	cbreak	and all the gpg signatures in signed tags will break
2021-05-17 02:04:19	untakenstupidnic	so when i enter 'git clone' it checks all of that?
2021-05-17 02:04:32	cbreak	untakenstupidnic: git is a crypto blockchain, held together by cryptographic strength hashes
2021-05-17 02:04:42	cbreak	a merkle-dag
2021-05-17 02:05:04	cbreak	you can explicitly check it with git fsck too
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2021-05-17 02:05:26	cbreak	(verifying tag signatures might be extra, not sure about that)
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2021-05-17 02:10:40	untakenstupidnic	would be good if someone can tell if clone checks for that.
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2021-05-17 02:12:02	ash_worksi	bremner: thank you for your suggestion on wild repos. To your understanding (or anyone else if they want to jump in [:: ash_worksi looks at ikke ::]) is that the most common approach to allowing a team to develop new features as microservices?
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2021-05-17 03:39:11	Timvde	I just prepared a rather complicated interactive rebase, then had git fail with "The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout". Is there any way to rercover my todo list?
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2021-05-17 03:49:49	dminuoso	Yes.
2021-05-17 03:49:58	dminuoso	man git reflog
2021-05-17 03:49:58	@gitinfo	the git-reflog manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-reflog.html
2021-05-17 03:50:13	r_hector	I have some old branches that I'd forgotten about. I'd like to check what I'd done in them, but if I just diff against master, I get all the changes made on master since the branch, as well as those on the branch. Is it easy to get just the changes on the branch since it was split off?
2021-05-17 03:50:28	dminuoso	!reflog
2021-05-17 03:50:28	@gitinfo	The git reflog (`git log -g`) temporarily (90 days by default) snapshots your branch states at each operation that changes the branch, making it easy to undo e.g. merges and rebases. The usual warnings about !rewriting/undoing history apply. See https://sukima.github.io/GitFixUm/ for full details.
2021-05-17 03:51:07	dminuoso	r_hector: git merge-base --fork-point
2021-05-17 03:51:25	dminuoso	or
2021-05-17 03:51:34	dminuoso	you can use `git log master..branch` I guess?
2021-05-17 03:51:47	r_hector	hmm
2021-05-17 03:52:29	dminuoso	It depends a bit on what kind of view you want to have
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2021-05-17 03:53:01	r_hector	the merge-base one looks like it's going to do a merge?
2021-05-17 03:53:04	dminuoso	For viewing a full proper diff, use `git diff $(git merge-base --fork-point master branch)..branch`
2021-05-17 03:53:23	r_hector	I thought I'd be able to see it in gitk, but it appears not
2021-05-17 03:53:27	dminuoso	No, it's just a plumbing tool to find a good ancestors
2021-05-17 03:53:36	dminuoso	It doesn't do anything but give you a commit
2021-05-17 03:53:46	dminuoso	The above command will likely do what you want
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2021-05-17 03:54:27	r_hector	but adding the branch name in somewhere? Or with the branch I'm interested in checked out?
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2021-05-17 03:54:38	dminuoso	`branch` is that branch name
2021-05-17 03:54:55	dminuoso	i.e. if your feature branch is named search_thing then:
2021-05-17 03:55:04	dminuoso	git diff $(git merge-base --fork-point master search_thing)..search_thing
2021-05-17 03:55:23	r_hector	ah, ok
2021-05-17 03:55:23	dminuoso	man git-merge-base
2021-05-17 03:55:23	@gitinfo	the git-merge-base manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-merge-base.html
2021-05-17 03:55:47	dminuoso	you can think `git merge` as using `git-merge-base` internally, if you dont specify a commit yourself
2021-05-17 03:55:54	r_hector	I looked at the man page - like lots of git docs, it's long and complicated :-)
2021-05-17 03:56:09	dminuoso	If you read the description alone, it should be clear
2021-05-17 03:56:15	dminuoso	`git merge-base finds best common ancestor(s) between two commits to use in a three-way merge.`
2021-05-17 03:56:21	dminuoso	That first sentence alone should be explanatory already
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2021-05-17 03:56:58	r_hector	I guess, yes
2021-05-17 03:57:02	dminuoso	Together with
2021-05-17 03:57:04	dminuoso	--fork-point
2021-05-17 03:57:07	dminuoso	    Find the point at which a branch (or any history that leads to <commit>) forked from another branch
2021-05-17 03:57:10	r_hector	I was jumping ahead in my assumptions :-)
2021-05-17 03:57:18	dminuoso	heh
2021-05-17 03:58:30	r_hector	once I understand it, it worked well, thanks
2021-05-17 03:58:40	r_hector	any idea why I couldn't see the other branch in gitk?
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2021-05-17 03:58:55	dminuoso	No idea, I dont use visual frontends except magit.
2021-05-17 03:59:02	dminuoso	They tend to have.. a lot of issues.
2021-05-17 03:59:17	r_hector	bah. Should have done man gitk too :-)
2021-05-17 03:59:17	@gitinfo	the gitk manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/gitk.html
2021-05-17 03:59:19	r_hector	gitk --all
2021-05-17 04:00:48	r_hector	oh, magit goes with emacs?
2021-05-17 04:00:59	r_hector	I don't think I'll make that jump at this point :-)
2021-05-17 04:01:36	dminuoso	magit alone was the reason I switched to emacs. :)
2021-05-17 04:01:43	dminuoso	It's that darn good.
2021-05-17 04:01:46	r_hector	fair enough
2021-05-17 04:02:08	jonascj	Dear everyone, I have a project (which is really two nested projects) with the following layout: https://upaste.de/akD . The file not-an-example.tex and directory not-examples needs to be kept private, it is a content-project of its own utilizing pack.py and instructions in README.md.
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2021-05-17 04:02:48	r_hector	I used emacs years ago at university, but only under X, and never learned the keystrokes. Then switched to vim when I got a sysadmin job, since we didn't have emacs on the servers.
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2021-05-17 04:04:06	jonascj	The rest can be public and of use to others. How could I organize this? Both projects have files in the top level directory. That could of course be changed.
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2021-05-17 04:05:40	dminuoso	r_hector: You might be interested in evil mode, then.
2021-05-17 04:06:42	jonascj	The reason I ask here is because I would use git to manage both projects (the public part and the private part - git of course has no concept of public/private, but having it as to repositories will allow me to enforce it with github or filesystem)
2021-05-17 04:07:48	r_hector	dminuoso: interesting, thanks
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2021-05-17 05:11:27	trevarj	hey, i'm trying to maintain a fork that has a bunch of patches on it. when i want to rebase with upstream, i always have to go through a ton of rebase conflicts. is there a way to just squash all the patches on my fork before rebasing, so i only have to fix conflicts once?
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2021-05-17 05:11:51	dminuoso	sure
2021-05-17 05:11:58	trevarj	i.e when i do `git rebase -i <commit before my patches>` it has like 18 steps of rebasing
2021-05-17 05:12:13	dminuoso	from experience, you dont get less conflicts though
2021-05-17 05:12:42	dminuoso	they rather happen more granually, making merging more easy
2021-05-17 05:13:48	trevarj	i want it to at least be <REBASE 1/2> or something easy
2021-05-17 05:14:05	dminuoso	trevarj: What you can do is either rewrite your feature branch (git rebase -i, and then squash), or you create a new fork point, go a git reset --soft and commit on that
2021-05-17 05:14:28	dminuoso	i.e.
2021-05-17 05:15:12	dminuoso	git checkout branch && git reset --soft $(git merge-base --fork-point master branch) && git add -A && git commit -m "..."
2021-05-17 05:15:13	trevarj	am i rebase -i'ing wrong? i keep the first one as `pick` and the rest of the commits `squash`
2021-05-17 05:15:27	dminuoso	sure, or you do something like this command sequence I just wrote
2021-05-17 05:15:40	dminuoso	the git rebase squashes the branch in place, the other creates a separate branch, but squashed
2021-05-17 05:15:59	dminuoso	sorry
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2021-05-17 05:16:14	dminuoso	if thats confusing
2021-05-17 05:16:16	trevarj	i just don't get why i have to resolve all the conflicts if i squash first then rebase
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2021-05-17 05:16:34	trevarj	with rebase -i
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2021-05-17 05:19:38	dminuoso	It depends a bit on the change history, if you have commits that undo conflicting changes, then yeah a squash would remove those
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2021-05-17 05:20:57	trevarj	i see. thanks
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2021-05-17 05:21:19	dminuoso	If you have relatively linear additions, then squashing will not help much
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2021-05-17 05:21:47	dminuoso	Only difference is that you get the conflicts *once* rather than potentially one conflict after another in the same file - but
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2021-05-17 05:23:22	bremner	ash_worksi: no idea about microservices. I don't usually think software architecture directly implies git workflow; the two are pretty much orthogonal
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2021-05-17 05:26:08	trevarj	dminuoso i just get these conflicts where i'm changing them in REBASE 3/20 and it's conflicting with 5/20 or something
2021-05-17 05:26:48	trevarj	i wanted to squash (and basically forget all the intermediary commits) and just have the current state in one commit
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2021-05-17 05:28:10	nedbat	ikke: i haven't used git-cherry.  how would it apply to my situation?
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2021-05-17 05:29:15	dmr104	I have a "fatal refusing to merge unrelated histories". Can anyone advise me?
2021-05-17 05:29:46	ash_worksi	bremner: thanks for the follow-up. The point isn't really about microservices; that's just a use-case. The idea is that one or more people might be making many repositories and you wouldn't want people having to wait for some admin to create the remote for you; feel free to treat me like I'm 5 if you need to explain something :)
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2021-05-17 05:31:28	bremner	ash_worksi: that sounds like the intended use case for wildrepos. There are some other "self service" style plugins for gitolite, perhaps some of those deal with repo creation.
2021-05-17 05:31:49	bremner	ash_worksi: if you are patient, you may get more detailed information on #gitolite
2021-05-17 05:31:54	ash_worksi	bremner: (so to clarify my question; sans [gitolite-specific?] wildcard repos, must people suffer this inconvenience and let their configuration grow wild? [eg, repo foo bar baz andthelist goeson andon ...])
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2021-05-17 05:32:55	ash_worksi	and more importantly, is it just par for the course to use wildcard repos, or do people have a more typical go-to method
2021-05-17 05:33:03	bremner	ash_worksi: I mostly use gitolite with a small team (or alone), so it hasn't been a burden for me. I guess realistically most people use some kind of gitlab / github gui thing to create repos
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2021-05-17 05:33:19	ash_worksi	I see
2021-05-17 05:33:44	ash_worksi	thanks for your input bremner !
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2021-05-17 05:37:54	dmr104	I made a readme.md on the website. then a git init locally, then a git remote add. now I cannot pull. i get a cannot merge branches with unrelated histories message.
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2021-05-17 05:41:08	bremner	dmr104: by "the website", you mean github.com?
2021-05-17 05:41:20	bremner	believe or not, there is more than one option...
2021-05-17 05:42:03	mackerman	dmr104: git clone  # the remote instead of git init
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2021-05-17 05:42:48	dmr104	thanks for your help mackerman.
2021-05-17 05:42:56	dmr104	Hve to go now
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2021-05-17 05:46:19	furrymcgee	with git subtree there is no need for wild repos
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2021-05-17 06:02:18	bremner	wat?
2021-05-17 06:02:28	bremner	how are those even related?
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2021-05-17 06:04:11	nedbat	not sure what a wild repo is?
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2021-05-17 06:10:02	j416	it seems gitolite has a feature that allows creating repos ad-hoc on push (without having to set them up server-side first), and it calls these "wild repos"
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2021-05-17 06:10:51	j416	maybe on clone. not sure.
2021-05-17 06:11:15	ikke	On push
2021-05-17 06:11:41	j416	this seems to say clone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://gitolite.com/gitolite/wild.html#user-creating-a-specific-repo
2021-05-17 06:11:50	j416	haven't actually read up more than this, or tried it.
2021-05-17 06:11:56	ikke	Ah, ok
2021-05-17 06:12:25	ikke	Could result in more spurious repos and confused users
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2021-05-17 09:17:00	bahamas	hello. I have two commits, one is the ancestor of the other. how can I get a list of the commits between them?
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2021-05-17 09:18:59	MrFantastik	howdy, I'm tasked with doing a workshop for git with some co workers in the it/sysadmin dept. is there some good introductory git stuff that I can "borrow"?
2021-05-17 09:19:16	canton7	MrFantastik, git log / git rev-list with !dots
2021-05-17 09:19:17	@gitinfo	MrFantastik: A..B = stuff that happened between A and B (if A and B are related; otherwise refer to "man gitrevisions"), A...B = (a) in history viewers: stuff that isn't in both A and B yet; (b) in "git diff": stuff that happened in B since the two diverged; (c) in "git checkout": the merge base of A and B. "master.." is the same as "master..HEAD" and "..master" is the same as "HEAD..master", and so forth.
2021-05-17 09:20:12	canton7	bahamas, ^, sorry wrong person
2021-05-17 09:20:26	MrFantastik	okie
2021-05-17 09:20:29	canton7	I can never remember the order of parameters to '..', so I go with 'git log newer ^older'
2021-05-17 09:20:32	bahamas	canton7: you mean `git log ancestor..descendant`?
2021-05-17 09:20:39	MrFantastik	i was gonna use https://onlywei.github.io/explain-git-with-d3/#commit
2021-05-17 09:20:52	canton7	bahamas, yep
2021-05-17 09:21:01	bahamas	canton7: ok, thanks!
2021-05-17 09:21:03	MrFantastik	to help with visualizing the tree when preforming some commands
2021-05-17 09:22:02	MrFantastik	also what is a reliable way to induce a merge conflict in git?
2021-05-17 09:22:07	canton7	MrFantastik, !book, I quite like !bottomup but each to their own. You might !learn_git_branching . If I'm doing a live demo, I've always got gitk (or sourcetree, or another history viewer) open on half of the screen showing what's happening
2021-05-17 09:22:07	@gitinfo	MrFantastik: There are several good books available about git; 'Pro Git' is probably the best: http://git-scm.com/book but also look at !bottomup !cs !gcs !designers !gitt !vcbe and !parable
2021-05-17 09:22:07	@gitinfo	MrFantastik: 'Git from the bottom up' starts with explaining the building blocks of git and proceeds to tell you how they fit together. https://jwiegley.github.io/git-from-the-bottom-up/
2021-05-17 09:22:07	@gitinfo	MrFantastik: A nice tutorial visualizing git branching: http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/
2021-05-17 09:22:52	canton7	MrFantastik, I normally do demos with a single text file, with commits normally appending lines. An easy way to demo a conflict is to have both sides of the merge add a line to the end of the file, or both change a line in different ways
2021-05-17 09:24:42	canton7	MrFantastik, that's a nice tool you found /me adds to the bot
2021-05-17 09:25:36	canton7	.trigger_edit learn_git_branching A nice tutorial visualizing git branching: http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/ . See also !visualize_ops
2021-05-17 09:25:37	@gitinfo	canton7: Okay.
2021-05-17 09:25:37	 *	MrFantastik https://onlywei.github.io/explain-git-with-d3/#commit
2021-05-17 09:26:13	canton7	.trigger_edit visualize_ops Visualize common operations: https://onlywei.github.io/explain-git-with-d3/ . See also !learn_git_branching
2021-05-17 09:26:13	@gitinfo	canton7: Okay.
2021-05-17 09:26:25	MrFantastik	oh heh
2021-05-17 09:26:45	MrFantastik	yea its nifty
2021-05-17 09:27:26	MrFantastik	do gitk/sourcetree live update visualy ?
2021-05-17 09:27:38	canton7	.trigger_edit visalize_ops -
2021-05-17 09:27:38	@gitinfo	canton7: Okay.
2021-05-17 09:28:13	canton7	MrFantastik, for gitk5, just hit F5 / ctrl-F5. I assume for sourcetree it's similar
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2021-05-17 09:30:13	MrFantastik	thanks canton7
2021-05-17 09:30:24	MrFantastik	here is some humour for your troubles https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-03/msg00571.html
2021-05-17 09:30:34	MrFantastik	found this looking through my notes on git
2021-05-17 09:30:45	bahamas	git detects whether we pipe the output of a command and changes it accordingly, right? I think I'm hitting a situation where git displays some output in less, even though I don't want this. is there a way to tell it not to do it?
2021-05-17 09:31:26	canton7	Heh, good old Stallman
2021-05-17 09:31:40	canton7	bahamas, IIRC the only changes it makes are color output
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2021-05-17 09:31:48	canton7	(and whether to add in its own pager)
2021-05-17 09:31:56	MrFantastik	> I don't know what a "merge" is; it is certainly nothing I asked to do.
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2021-05-17 09:34:47	bahamas	canton7: it also changes the output of git diff
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2021-05-17 09:49:08	canton7	bahamas, in what way?
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2021-05-17 10:12:38	bahamas	canton7: when the output is piped, it starts with something like `git a/path/tofile`. when it's not piped, it starts with `modified: path/to/file`
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2021-05-17 10:14:27	canton7	bahamas, I don't see that
2021-05-17 10:18:05	bahamas	canton7: it always starts with the first format for you or how?
2021-05-17 10:18:18	bahamas	maybe we have settings that influence this
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2021-05-17 10:18:57	canton7	I never see 'git a/path/to/file' or 'modified: path/to/file'. I see 'diff --git a/path/to/file'. I don't have any special settings around that: maybe it's a version thing
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2021-05-17 10:20:51	bahamas	canton7: yeah, that's what I meant, ie `diff --git`
2021-05-17 10:21:51	bahamas	canton7: this is the other format https://bpa.st/6S6A
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2021-05-17 10:23:15	canton7	I've never had it print out those horizontal bars either
2021-05-17 10:23:28	bahamas	so it's probably a config thing
2021-05-17 10:23:38	bahamas	also, I'm on mac, if it makes a difference
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2021-05-17 10:26:05	canton7	macOS switched to zsh recently I think? Maybe it's an oh-my-zsh thing
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2021-05-17 10:26:42	bahamas	canton7: I don't have a recent version, so I'm still on BASH
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2021-05-17 10:47:16	yates	i'm trying to generate a "pull request". is the procedure like this: 1) git clone the repo, 2) make changes, 3) git checking, 4) git push?
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2021-05-17 10:47:31	yates	should the changes be made on a new branch?
2021-05-17 10:47:50	yates	it seems so from this: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/compare/master...master
2021-05-17 10:48:15	yates	or am i confused?
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2021-05-17 10:48:55	imMute	yates: on github there's an extra step of forking the upstream repo (before #1) and doing a PR (after #4) in their repo
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2021-05-17 10:49:12	imMute	in that case you don't need a new branch since the fork is "owned" by you so you can do whatever you want with it.
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2021-05-17 10:53:49	mackerman	Probably still a good idea to create a new branch in your repo, to be clear about what you are proposing to merge.
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2021-05-17 11:02:48	yates	thanks imMute
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2021-05-17 11:14:49	dmr104	when doiing ssh-keygen -C should I use my main email address used with github, of the noreply email address found in settings?
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2021-05-17 11:15:41	imMute	dmr104: doesn't matter. it's just a comment so you can identify the key easily
2021-05-17 11:16:14	dmr104	imMute: is this comment publically viewable?
2021-05-17 11:17:05	imMute	I don't think so.  only if you attach it when pasting the public key into github (and even then I think it's only visible to github, not other users)
2021-05-17 11:17:37	dmr104	thankyou imMute
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2021-05-17 11:59:35	rustyshackleford	releaseV2 branches from releaseV1. I want to revert it in releaseV1
2021-05-17 11:59:47	imMute	rustyshackleford: what is "it" ?
2021-05-17 11:59:51	rustyshackleford	it = a specific commit
2021-05-17 11:59:54	rustyshackleford	my bad
2021-05-17 12:00:15	rustyshackleford	so we do this idiotic thing where we merge releaseV1 into releaseV2 daily
2021-05-17 12:00:37	rustyshackleford	but the thing is, I DON'T want to revert it in V2
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2021-05-17 12:03:28	moldy	rustyshackleford: revert the revert i guess :p
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2021-05-17 12:03:33	rustyshackleford	git checkout releaseV2; git merge origin/releaseV1; git revert <the revert commit>
2021-05-17 12:03:35	moldy	or maybe change the whole workflow
2021-05-17 12:03:39	rustyshackleford	or just cherry pick it
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2021-05-17 12:04:31	rustyshackleford	moldy: I despise this workflow
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2021-05-17 12:07:57	irc_user	Is the only way to undo a rebase by using `git reflog` and hard resetting to a previous state? I'm confused because I was under the impression that `git reset --hard` was an undo-able action, yet when I look in the reflog it seems like every single state of the repo is stored. Any time I would test out git stuff I'd make a copy of the repo to back it up, but it seems like with reflog it's not technically necessary? Or
2021-05-17 12:07:57	irc_user	does a lot of this stuff get garbage collected?
2021-05-17 12:09:13	irc_user	Or is the reflog only on my local machine and not pushed up to origin?
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2021-05-17 12:11:37	imMute	irc_user: the old commits will get garbage collected at some point.  and the reflog is local only (not pushed to remotes)
2021-05-17 12:11:58	velix	`warning: LF will be replaced by CRLF in backup.sh.` Why does GIT do this at all? Is its internal format CRLF ?
2021-05-17 12:12:20	imMute	irc_user: if 'git reset --hard' throws away uncommitted changes, those changes are indeed lost forever.  the reflog only stores *committed* states (also the stash, which is technically committed)
2021-05-17 12:12:25	ikke	velix: internally it's LF
2021-05-17 12:12:34	ikke	if you enable line-ending normalization, that is
2021-05-17 12:12:35	velix	ikke: but why is LF replace with CRLF then?
2021-05-17 12:12:39	imMute	velix: git doesn't care which line ending you use.  it has facilities to convert on checkout/commit though.
2021-05-17 12:12:44	velix	ikke: It's a fresh system, nothing has bene set up.
2021-05-17 12:12:48	velix	been*
2021-05-17 12:12:48	ikke	velix: git warns about the files in your working tree
2021-05-17 12:12:55	ikke	velix: git ls-files --eol <filename>
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2021-05-17 12:12:58	velix	ikke: the files are LF only.
2021-05-17 12:13:01	velix	ok 1 sec
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2021-05-17 12:14:48	velix	ikke: i/lf    w/lf    attr/  ...
2021-05-17 12:15:07	velix	Isn't the warning wrong then?
2021-05-17 12:15:07	ikke	what does it mention after attr/
2021-05-17 12:15:30	velix	i/lf    w/lf    attr/                   <path to file>
2021-05-17 12:15:46	ikke	git config core.autocrlf
2021-05-17 12:15:58	velix	What does it do?
2021-05-17 12:16:06	ikke	it tells you what that setting is
2021-05-17 12:16:12	velix	true
2021-05-17 12:16:18	ikke	Then that's your issue
2021-05-17 12:16:28	velix	It's a default setting.
2021-05-17 12:16:34	ikke	on what OS are you?
2021-05-17 12:16:36	velix	Windows.
2021-05-17 12:16:39	ikke	there you go
2021-05-17 12:16:44	velix	git version 2.31.1.windows.1
2021-05-17 12:16:57	ikke	It's an option you can set when you install git for windows
2021-05-17 12:17:30	velix	So all my unix files, ending with LF, have now been converted to CRLF ?
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2021-05-17 12:17:44	ikke	Not really
2021-05-17 12:17:55	ikke	but git warns that when you checkout files, it will be with CRLF line endings
2021-05-17 12:18:11	velix	I really don't know the sense of this.
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2021-05-17 12:18:22	velix	When LF is incoming, git has LF internally, why does it convert to CRLF ?
2021-05-17 12:18:24	ikke	It's for windows programs that cannot handle just LF
2021-05-17 12:18:29	ikke	the files in your working tree
2021-05-17 12:18:43	velix	All the files in the working tree are linux files with LF
2021-05-17 12:19:02	ikke	commit <-> index <-> workingtree
2021-05-17 12:19:16	ikke	the conversion happens from index to the working tree
2021-05-17 12:19:25	ikke	the warning is that git detects the working tree now has LF
2021-05-17 12:19:46	ikke	and warns you that when git checks out files, they will have CRLF instead of LF, which the file has now
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2021-05-17 12:22:18	irc_user	imMute: Ohh I see, so If I reset hard to 3 commits ago on the same branch, the 2 at the end will be orphaned because they're no longer on a branch, and so will be garbage collected. Wow so it seems like the reflog isn't pushed at all, so if I squash a bunch of commits and force push, the individual squashed commits will be on my computer (until garbage collection) bot not on the remote?
2021-05-17 12:22:30	irc_user	imMute: is it uncommon to turn garbage collection completely off?
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2021-05-17 12:26:26	ikke	irc_user: only in situations where you have a custom garbage collector
2021-05-17 12:26:41	ikke	Like git forges
2021-05-17 12:27:49	imMute	irc_user: if you pushed the unsquashed commits, they'll be on the remote, even after pushing the squashed commit.  they'll just be orphaned and eventually GC'd.
2021-05-17 12:28:10	imMute	I'ven ever heard of anyone turning off the GC entirely.
2021-05-17 12:28:13	irc_user	Ohh I see, they'll be GC'd by the remote system
2021-05-17 12:28:20	irc_user	on push
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2021-05-17 12:28:55	irc_user	ikke: I see, thank you
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2021-05-17 12:29:06	irc_user	I guess people messing up their git repos for more than 30 days isn't common
2021-05-17 12:29:36	ikke	the reflog retention period is 90 days by default
2021-05-17 12:30:00	irc_user	Oh okay, just read an article that said 30 but 90 sounds nice
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2021-05-17 12:30:32	ikke	"Prune entries older than the specified time. If this option is not specified, the expiration time is taken from the configuration setting gc.reflogExpire, which in turn defaults to 90 days."
2021-05-17 12:30:34	ikke	man git reflog
2021-05-17 12:30:34	@gitinfo	the git-reflog manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-reflog.html
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2021-05-17 12:33:34	irc_user	Got it, thank you
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2021-05-17 12:39:34	velix	ikke: So, there is something like a "look up table"?
2021-05-17 12:39:43	velix	ikke: It saves what's the original and restores it?
2021-05-17 12:39:57	ikke	no, git has so called clean and smudge filters
2021-05-17 12:40:12	ikke	you can manually define these, but git also has built-in for eol conversion
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2021-05-17 12:40:27	ikke	clean happens when adding files from the working tree to the index
2021-05-17 12:40:32	ikke	smudge in the opposite direction
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2021-05-17 12:42:23	velix	Seems like a really bad concept
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2021-05-17 12:42:33	ikke	It's optional
2021-05-17 12:42:37	ikke	you need to enable it
2021-05-17 12:42:46	velix	Okay, so some hundrets files are doomed now.
2021-05-17 12:42:49	ikke	no
2021-05-17 12:42:56	velix	I really didn't get asked for this at GIT installation.
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2021-05-17 12:43:05	velix	let me re-run it in a fresh VM
2021-05-17 12:43:33	snatcher	what's the way to set global socks proxy?
2021-05-17 12:43:43	ikke	Maybe it has changed recently, but when I installed it, you got a bunch of questions, where EOL conversion was one of them
2021-05-17 12:43:52	ikke	Otherwise, complain here: https://github.com/git-for-windows/git :)
2021-05-17 12:44:05	ikke	git itself never enables this by default
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2021-05-17 12:46:16	velix	ikke: Yep, I just re-run it. No question about EOL settings.
2021-05-17 12:46:25	velix	Okay, I'll file it as an unexpected behavior.
2021-05-17 12:47:23	ikke	but for now, you can just disable it, and if you want to be sure, run something like dos2unix over your worktree to restore things as they were
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2021-05-17 12:47:48	velix	I've got backups for this, but I didn't expect GIT to mess with my files.
2021-05-17 12:47:54	ikke	no need for backups
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2021-05-17 12:48:09	velix	when running dos2unix, all the timestamps will change.
2021-05-17 12:48:20	ikke	git does not preserve timestamps anyway
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2021-05-17 12:48:29	velix	it does. you can even re-apply them.
2021-05-17 12:48:50	velix	Let me find the snippet
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2021-05-17 12:49:13	velix	(at least when using it with github)
2021-05-17 12:51:08	velix	okay, it's only for author time and commiter time, but better than nothing ;)
2021-05-17 12:51:21	velix	ah, I'm using git-restore-mtime for this.
2021-05-17 12:51:25	ikke	right
2021-05-17 12:51:33	ikke	git does not restore it by default
2021-05-17 12:52:01	snatcher	does git even care about privacy by design? is there a way to proxy _every_ protocol to hide your ip from some proprietary services like a github through the socks via tor etc
2021-05-17 12:52:18	velix	snatcher: https://gist.github.com/evantoli/f8c23a37eb3558ab8765
2021-05-17 12:52:34	velix	git config --global http.proxy http://proxyUsername:proxyPassword@proxy.server.com:port
2021-05-17 12:52:34	ikke	snatcher: git defers communication to other libraries
2021-05-17 12:52:40	ikke	libcurl, libssh
2021-05-17 12:53:02	ikke	for http(s), you can probably configure curl to use sock proxies
2021-05-17 12:53:08	velix	use socks:// instead of http:// if you are using a socks5 proxy.
2021-05-17 12:53:14	velix	socks5h:// etc.
2021-05-17 12:53:45	velix	when cURL is working in background, it respects environment variables of course.
2021-05-17 12:54:02	snatcher	velix: as far i understand that cfg option respects only http:/https: not git:/ssh:
2021-05-17 12:54:30	velix	snatcher: Then go with proxychains
2021-05-17 12:54:40	velix	proxychains-ng is even better
2021-05-17 12:54:44	ikke	the big clue is in the config option name
2021-05-17 12:55:27	ikke	and this is a consequence of git deferring to other libraries. in case of http, git will just ask libcurl to use the proxy
2021-05-17 12:55:43	irc_user	Is there any consensus on squashing feature branches into one commit before merging back to master?
2021-05-17 12:56:01	ikke	irc_user: no, there is no consensus
2021-05-17 12:56:38	irc_user	I see, thank you. I guess it makes the git blame a little less usable?
2021-05-17 12:56:48	ikke	it create huge commits
2021-05-17 12:56:54	gpanders	afaik most people do not do that because you lose a lot of useful history
2021-05-17 12:57:05	ikke	yes, you loose granularity
2021-05-17 12:58:04	ikke	projects that resort to squashing typically have users that do not care (or do not know) how to create clean, usefull history
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2021-05-17 12:58:12	velix	ikke: Ah, someone on stackoverflow explained it: `These messages are due to incorrect default value of core.autocrlf on Windows.` - so it's a known "wontfix".
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2021-05-17 12:58:39	ikke	It must have changed recently then. It used to ask for it
2021-05-17 12:58:43	snatcher	velix: do you mean wrap every git cmd or def alias with proxychains ... git? it's a bad practice and definitely leaks you real ip somewhere (in scripts etc) rather than global app cfg option
2021-05-17 12:58:56	ikke	and, I would honestly expect it to even not be used anymore, as even notepad nowadays handles `LF`
2021-05-17 12:59:09	irc_user	I see, I probably won't then, thanks. I was reading an article that was saying you should do it because it makes the history much easier to view, but git log has the `--simplify-by-decoration` option which gives a simplified overview.
2021-05-17 12:59:22	ikke	yes
2021-05-17 12:59:32	irc_user	Thank you :)
2021-05-17 12:59:35	velix	snatcher: just google it. proxychains is designed for such cases.
2021-05-17 12:59:49	ikke	that's the second reason, most users do not know how to use git to give them usefull history
2021-05-17 13:00:01	ikke	git log --first-parent for example
2021-05-17 13:00:21	snatcher	velix: i know about proxychains/torify/torsocks etc wrappers, but wrappers still wrappers instead app forced global opt
2021-05-17 13:00:21	ikke	(and sites like github do not expose that)
2021-05-17 13:01:05	snatcher	what does git use in case of git: and where to set proxy for it?
2021-05-17 13:01:15	velix	snatcher: Wrappers are often better than native approaches. nativ appreoaches often leak where you don't expected it ;)
2021-05-17 13:01:26	velix	sorry for typos
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2021-05-17 13:03:12	snatcher	really problematic to put wrapper in every app that uses git, editor, fm etc instead global cfg option
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2021-05-17 13:10:49	ikke	Maybe use a vpn or transparent proxy to make sure everything uses it instead of configuring every app
2021-05-17 13:12:27	ikke	there is core.gitproxy for the git protocol, but there is nothing for ssh afaik
2021-05-17 13:14:10	ikke	there is core.sshCommand, so if you can configure ssh itself to use a socks proxy, you could use that
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2021-05-17 13:28:16	irc_user	I have a main branch and a feature branch which is already merged after several commits back into master. I want to take one specific commit that is in master and squash it into another commit that is exactly the same in the feature branch, or just flat out delete the commit. I tried dropping it but it didn't actually get dropped. Is there a way to do this?
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2021-05-17 13:30:55	irc_user	s/main/master
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2021-05-17 13:41:41	Betal	isn't this going to happen anyway when you rebase before push to master
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2021-05-17 13:45:08	irc_user	Hmm, perhaps I explained it wrong. For now I have to go, thank you though!
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2021-05-17 14:00:16	no_gravity	Good Evening
2021-05-17 14:00:29	no_gravity	It seems pretty complicated to ammend the current changes to an older commit.
2021-05-17 14:00:51	no_gravity	Maybe one should write a script that can be called like this? git-ammend-to <commit_id>
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2021-05-17 14:01:55	ikke	no_gravity: git commit --fixup <commit>
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2021-05-17 14:01:56	rewt	`git commit --amend` to amend to the last one, or `git commit -m 'fixup ...'` then rebase -i to join them
2021-05-17 14:02:10	ikke	then git rebase -i --autosquash <base>
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2021-05-17 14:02:29	no_gravity	That's what I mean by "complicated" :)
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2021-05-17 14:02:45	ikke	use magit
2021-05-17 14:02:49	ikke	it has instant fixup
2021-05-17 14:02:58	no_gravity	ikke: What is magit?
2021-05-17 14:03:02	rewt	which part of that is complicated?  running 2 commands instead of 1?
2021-05-17 14:03:33	ikke	no_gravity: emacs git interface, so not for the faint of heart :)
2021-05-17 14:03:34	no_gravity	rewt: What is <base>?
2021-05-17 14:03:45	no_gravity	ikke: I use vim :)
2021-05-17 14:04:00	ikke	it has fugitive, but not sure if it has a similar feature
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2021-05-17 14:04:06	rewt	could be just <commit>^
2021-05-17 14:04:21	no_gravity	rewt: Hmm... I don't understand what you mean.
2021-05-17 14:04:21	ikke	it needs to be at least the parent of the commit you want to amend
2021-05-17 14:04:30	rewt	^
2021-05-17 14:04:40	no_gravity	ikke: What needs to be the parent?
2021-05-17 14:04:44	ikke	<base>
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2021-05-17 14:05:01	ikke	But I typically use the branch I created this branch from
2021-05-17 14:05:06	ikke	git rebase -i master for example
2021-05-17 14:05:14	no_gravity	I only have one branch. master.
2021-05-17 14:05:44	ikke	then you could use something like HEAD~X, where X is a number, or <commit>~1
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2021-05-17 14:06:06	ikke	You can make an alias that combines this
2021-05-17 14:06:09	no_gravity	ikke: What is <commit>?
2021-05-17 14:06:14	ikke	the commit you want to ammend
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2021-05-17 14:06:49	no_gravity	ikke: The hash of that commit?
2021-05-17 14:06:51	ikke	yes
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2021-05-17 14:08:16	no_gravity	So... I have a changed file in my working dir. I want to ammend it to an old commit. Lets says the old commit has hash 9c2b14. What is my first command?
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2021-05-17 14:09:44	rewt	after you git add (as usual), `git commit --fixup 9c2b14`, followed by `git rebase -i --autosquash 9c2b14^` (following ikke's commands)
2021-05-17 14:09:58	rewt	that ^ on the end of 9c2b14^ means parent-of-9c2b14
2021-05-17 14:10:15	ikke	^ == ^1 == ~ == ~1
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2021-05-17 14:10:52	rewt	yea, for first parent when there's only 1 parent, there's a few ways of saying the same thing
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2021-05-17 14:12:02	no_gravity	rewt: That opened vim with what looks like a list of commits.
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2021-05-17 14:12:36	rewt	that's rebase's to-do list ... save and quit to do it
2021-05-17 14:12:39	rewt	:wq
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2021-05-17 14:13:08	no_gravity	rewt: Ok. Let me check if that did the right thing ...
2021-05-17 14:13:28	rewt	in that list, the first one was pick, then the last one was fixup, right?
2021-05-17 14:13:28	no_gravity	rewt: I feel like these steps I just performed should go into a script "git-ammend-to.sh" :)
2021-05-17 14:13:45	no_gravity	rewt: I don't know. I already :wq'ed.
2021-05-17 14:14:08	rewt	make a script in your path named `git-ammed-to`, and then you can do `git ammend-to ...`
2021-05-17 14:14:26	no_gravity	rewt: I see
2021-05-17 14:14:40	rewt	but it's usually best to use consistent spelling (1 m in amend)
2021-05-17 14:15:23	no_gravity	How can I avoid the vim step in the script?
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2021-05-17 14:15:56	rewt	-i makes it interactive... you could try removing that
2021-05-17 14:16:07	no_gravity	Ah
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2021-05-17 14:19:35	no_gravity	rewt: The change ended up in the wrong commit.
2021-05-17 14:19:55	no_gravity	It is in the commit *before* 9c2b14 now.
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2021-05-17 14:24:08	[twisti]	i feel like going to a special hell, so at work i got assigned a setup that i think will probably earn me a place there. we have various pieces of software that are ... similary-ish. they all got copied/forked off each at some point in the past, but before we had proper version control. we would like to send the projects back to a singular repo, where they will exist as parallel branches with no common ancestor. got that working so far. but in the
2021-05-17 14:24:08	[twisti]	future we would like to do development that should apply/be applied to all branches. so we have branches A, B and C, like said, no common ancestor/shared history. now comes commit X, which we want to apply to all branches. whats the best way to do that ?
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2021-05-17 14:27:18	no_gravity	rewt: Hmm.. I might be wrong.
2021-05-17 14:28:08	no_gravity	rewt: I was wrong :) It worked nicely!
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2021-05-17 14:37:24	no_gravity	rewt: Ommiting the -i does not work though. That will leave the fixup commit on top of the log.
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2021-05-17 15:46:09	imMute	[twisti]: cherry-pick the commit between branches.  since they have no shared history I don't think merging would work (nor would you necessarily want to do that either given the divergence)
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2021-05-17 23:11:22	irc_user	I have a master branch and a feature branch which after several commits has been merged back into master. There is one commit in the master branch that happened before the feature was merged that is exactly the same as a commit in the feature branch that I want to squash/delete/move. Is there a way to do this? I tried dropping it during an interactive rebase but that didn't seem to do anything at all.
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2021-05-17 23:24:10	irc_user	I keep trying to delete/squash it but then I log the graph and it looks exactly the same after the rebase
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2021-05-18 00:24:25	ikke	irc_user: did you try to revert it?
2021-05-18 00:24:31	ikke	man git revert
2021-05-18 00:24:31	@gitinfo	the git-revert manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-revert.html
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2021-05-18 00:26:38	irc_user	ikke: Thank you, I will read, but I should say I realized that without the commit I am trying to delete, the git history would be completely linear since that was the only commit that occured in master before I merged back, so maybe that's why it won't let me squash it?
2021-05-18 00:26:53	ikke	!situation
2021-05-18 00:26:53	@gitinfo	Please post the url returned by `git log -n 20 --all --graph --format="%h %p %d %s" | curl -F text=@- https://upaste.de/` to give us an idea about what your situation is (increase the -n argument if your problem is more complex than 20 commits can explain)
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2021-05-18 00:36:39	irc_user	This is the exact situation, if you don't mind me anonymizing it. Commits 1 and 3 are exactly the same, and squashing/deleting commit 1 doesn't seem to do anything. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CKkk1Nxj/
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2021-05-18 00:51:48	irc_user	You know what, I think I wasn't seeing the squash because I was logging with --branches, damn.
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2021-05-18 01:23:55	irc_user	Oh, I had wrongly assumed that the reflog stored all the previous states of the repo, and if you reset to one it would bring the entire repo, including all branches, to that state. But it only resets the current branch, which makes `--branches` the other branch which was not reset in the log.
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2021-05-18 03:49:29	Timvde	Hmm, a colleague of mine is seeing "warning: There are too many unreachable loose objects; run 'git prune' to remove them."
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2021-05-18 04:04:33	osse	I suggest running git prune
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2021-05-18 04:21:04	apo	Sounds like your colleague rebases a lot
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2021-05-18 04:26:45	rfuentess	+1 to osse . Git suggestions normally are very useful
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2021-05-18 05:45:36	pepa	so I made a pull request in git.... a reviewer asked me to make some changed to the code....... I made and pushed those changes..... now I make a new pull request or somehow update the pull request I had already created?
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2021-05-18 05:47:43	henk	pepa: how did you make a pull request _in git_?
2021-05-18 05:47:55	pepa	in bitbucket
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2021-05-18 05:53:14	nedbat	pepa: the pull request is probably updated automatically. Did you take a look at it on bitbucket?
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2021-05-18 06:04:19	j416	henk: for reference, git does have a pull request tool (but it doesn't store them in any way afaik)
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2021-05-18 06:08:12	nedbat	it's a fact of life here that people asking questions will blur the distinctions between git and git hosting.
2021-05-18 06:08:32	j416	indeed.
2021-05-18 06:10:25	nedbat	and it would be better to not raise our eyebrows at it :)
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2021-05-18 06:16:31	j416	not sure what you mean
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2021-05-18 06:34:34	j416	ah, I thought your remark was at what I said.
2021-05-18 06:37:21	nedbat	sorry, no
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2021-05-18 07:06:01	henk	j416: uuh, can you provide a bit more info? is it a subcommand?
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2021-05-18 07:06:15	osse	man git-request-pull
2021-05-18 07:06:16	@gitinfo	the git-request-pull manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-request-pull.html
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2021-05-18 07:06:51	henk	j416, osse: thanks
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2021-05-18 08:13:33	henk	I made changes to a file and I am almost certain I had those committed but they are not there. IIRC all commits, i.e. even ones that are not in any branch, are recorded somewhere in .git. I’d like to grep those to try and find my changes. How do I do that?
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2021-05-18 08:15:46	osse	try git fsck --lost-found
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2021-05-18 10:50:39	sfenik	I'm seeing all kinds of conflicting information on this, not to mention a lot of the posts being really old: I'm the only one on our team currently using windows, is it correct that my autocrlf should be set to true to keep unix-style line ending on the repo?
2021-05-18 10:52:13	imMute	sfenik: or set to false and make sure your editors are told to use LF line endings.
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2021-05-18 11:01:16	selckin	best method imo to turn all automagic changes off, and make sure you use editors that know what they are doing
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2021-05-18 11:04:36	imMute	that's what I do too.
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2021-05-18 11:13:41	ScottMichaud	A repo I'm working on has a problem. Somehow someone committed CRLF line endings all over the place, such that even Linux is checking out carriage returns.
2021-05-18 11:14:21	imMute	ScottMichaud: that'll happen if you have autocrlf=false    you'll have to go through and fix/commit all the line endings.
2021-05-18 11:14:27	ScottMichaud	I tried fixing them (on Windows) in Notepad++ by replacing CRLF with LF.
2021-05-18 11:14:54	ScottMichaud	But when I staged them, Git said line endings will be converted from LF to CRLF but my working directory will be unchanged.
2021-05-18 11:15:12	ScottMichaud	When I actually commit, there's line-ending changes in GitExtensions.
2021-05-18 11:15:30	ScottMichaud	My local copies are still LF.
2021-05-18 11:15:54	ScottMichaud	What's a reliable way to 1) Convert my local copies back to CRLF and 2) Inspect what's actually on Git?
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2021-05-18 11:18:23	imMute	what does 'git config core.autocrlf' output while in that repo?
2021-05-18 11:18:43	osse	ScottMichaud: 1) unix2dos, for example.  2) git show HEAD:foo.txt | file -
2021-05-18 11:19:07	ScottMichaud	git config core.autocrlf says that it's set to true.
2021-05-18 11:19:17	ScottMichaud	Of course that's on my machine.
2021-05-18 11:20:59	ScottMichaud	That's one of the annoying things about file... it never complained about CRLF
2021-05-18 11:21:11	ScottMichaud	Even on the commits that clearly checked out on Linux as CRLF.
2021-05-18 11:21:23	osse	hmm
2021-05-18 11:21:24	ScottMichaud	less -u would should ^M though
2021-05-18 11:21:31	ScottMichaud	would show*
2021-05-18 11:21:34	osse	for me it either says "... with CRLF terminators", or it doesn't
2021-05-18 11:21:56	ScottMichaud	Yeah that's part of the problem... I get inconsistent feedback.
2021-05-18 11:22:42	osse	show:path dumps the raw thing, so you can grep ^M I suppose
2021-05-18 11:23:43	ScottMichaud	Ah I think I found a way.
2021-05-18 11:24:02	osse	on windows I get:  http://sprunge.us/XDfP0h
2021-05-18 11:24:05	ScottMichaud	HEAD and origin's copy of the head branch show different results.
2021-05-18 11:25:06	ScottMichaud	So second part (or I guess first part and we solved the second) how do I reset my line endings to as if I just cloned the repo with my given Git line ending settings (true)?
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2021-05-18 11:26:38	ScottMichaud	(Thanks @osse btw)
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2021-05-18 11:27:43	osse	i think you can simply remove all files and check them out again
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2021-05-18 11:30:09	ScottMichaud	Oh. lol
2021-05-18 11:30:29	ScottMichaud	It already converted them back to crlf. I was looking at one of the ones that wasn't broken on the commit before mine.
2021-05-18 11:30:41	ScottMichaud	So the commit never changed it, so its line endings were fine.
2021-05-18 11:30:50	ScottMichaud	So it left it as LF
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2021-05-18 11:31:46	ScottMichaud	Yeah if I needed to fix the file, they're LF in Git and CRLF on my machine.
2021-05-18 11:32:10	ScottMichaud	If I didn't need to fix the file... they're LF on Git and LF on my machine.
2021-05-18 11:32:21	ScottMichaud	(Because they've never been changed to be checked out again.)
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2021-05-18 11:32:27	ScottMichaud	Okay that makes sense.
2021-05-18 11:33:27	ScottMichaud	Thanks again!
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2021-05-18 14:10:32	cybrNaut	there is a quite large project, and I just want to fork, add 1 line of code, and do a PR.  It's a gitea forge.  I know the /normal/ way is to fork, 'git clone', make change, 'git add', 'git commit', 'git push', PR in GUI.  But the 'git clone' is huge.  So instead I forked and made the change in Gitea to avoid the 'git clone'
2021-05-18 14:11:03	cybrNaut	that worked, but now others have made changes and again I have just one SLOC to change
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2021-05-18 14:11:21	BtbN	You need to rebase the commit then
2021-05-18 14:11:23	ikke	cybrNaut: git clone --depth=N
2021-05-18 14:11:25	cybrNaut	i can't pull the same trick, because my version is now old
2021-05-18 14:11:40	ikke	where N is a number
2021-05-18 14:13:05	cybrNaut	hmm.. might work.  so i do a shallow clone of my fork, then do a 'git pull'?
2021-05-18 14:13:37	cybrNaut	(git pull to sync with the upstream repo)
2021-05-18 14:13:44	ikke	git pull is not a sync command
2021-05-18 14:14:15	ikke	you need to fetch from upstream to get the latest changes
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2021-05-18 14:18:13	cybrNaut	so does --depth=1 just grab the latest version of every object?  That's still quite big.  IIRC, i can also limit the objects.
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2021-05-18 14:19:43	j416	cybrNaut: something like --filter=blob:none
2021-05-18 14:19:59	j416	but it'd still need to fetch them for the checkout.
2021-05-18 14:20:34	j416	how large is this repo anyway
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2021-05-18 14:22:54	cybrNaut	it's over 1gb.  It's not so much a problem on my end, but the forge is fussy and crashes ~25% into the download
2021-05-18 14:23:15	cybrNaut	so i'm trying to work around a bug in the forge
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2021-05-18 14:23:49	j416	what is "the forge"?
2021-05-18 14:24:07	ikke	a forge is a generic term for a git (or other vcs) host
2021-05-18 14:24:20	cybrNaut	git-clone man page doesn't mention --filter.. my Stretch version may be too old
2021-05-18 14:24:30	cybrNaut	git.nogafam.es
2021-05-18 14:24:34	j416	ikke: ah
2021-05-18 14:24:50	j416	never heard this term
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2021-05-18 14:32:34	cybrNaut	so --depth=1 is still too big, and i guess partial clone is impossible with my version, which apparently lacks --filter
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2021-05-18 14:33:34	ikke	"A painless self-hosted git service"
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2021-05-18 14:33:53	ikke	It's apparently not painless
2021-05-18 14:33:58	ikke	and a service is not self-hosted :P
2021-05-18 14:34:49	ikke	I guess that's the default gitea page
2021-05-18 14:36:01	j416	cybrNaut: do you have access to the server?
2021-05-18 14:36:43	cybrNaut	i have a user account, but i'm not the admin and don't have physical access
2021-05-18 14:37:07	j416	hum. too bad.
2021-05-18 14:37:28	j416	imagining that the server perhaps has too little ram to compress the data
2021-05-18 14:37:44	j416	just a hunch.
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2021-05-18 14:42:02	cybrNaut	mirroring to an onion host apparently fixed the problem for some people: https://git.nogafam.es/deCloudflare/deCloudflare/issues/18
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2021-05-18 14:45:47	englosh	if I do `git config --global init.defaultBranch main` and then do `git init` and then `git status`, why does it say "On branch master"?
2021-05-18 14:46:58	ikke	git --version
2021-05-18 14:47:07	englosh	git version 2.27.0
2021-05-18 14:47:52	ikke	you need at least 2.30
2021-05-18 14:48:35	englosh	seems like this feature is very new
2021-05-18 14:48:41	ikke	yes
2021-05-18 14:48:54	englosh	I don't even have that package version
2021-05-18 14:49:23	ikke	You can do git symbolic-ref HEAD refs/heads/main to change it
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2021-05-18 14:50:05	englosh	ah ok
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2021-05-18 14:54:43	j416	or simply rename it afterwards
2021-05-18 14:54:48	j416	(git branch -m)
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2021-05-18 15:06:47	dmr104	I have copied an pasted my public key to github.  But I cannot ssh -vt user@github.com
2021-05-18 15:07:10	dminuoso	That's a github question, then.
2021-05-18 15:07:14	ikke	what is the name of your public key file?
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2021-05-18 15:10:03	dmr104	I used my noreply email addresss from github
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2021-05-18 15:10:52	dmr104	should I have specified ed25519 when using ssh-add?
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2021-05-18 15:11:22	ikke	the e-mail address is irrelevant
2021-05-18 15:11:59	dmr104	what do you mean by the name of the public key file?
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2021-05-18 15:12:12	ikke	the name on disk
2021-05-18 15:12:14	ikke	filename
2021-05-18 15:12:56	j416	dmr104: what's the error and what did you expect?
2021-05-18 15:13:24	j416	dmr104: any reason why you're running ssh directly rather than via git?
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2021-05-18 15:13:51	osse	to test
2021-05-18 15:13:58	dmr104	oh. id_ed25519_github_dennis.pub
2021-05-18 15:14:15	ikke	ok, but you did add that key to the ssh agent?
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2021-05-18 15:14:36	dmr104	j416: I tried git fetch via ssh protocol. no joy.
2021-05-18 15:14:52	ikke	If ssh is not working, then git operations won't work either
2021-05-18 15:14:55	dmr104	ikke: yes I added to ssh-add but with no options
2021-05-18 15:15:19	j416	fwiw, ssh github.com says denied for me, but git clone works fine with the same key
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2021-05-18 15:15:19	osse	try ssh -vvv and see what keys it considers
2021-05-18 15:15:28	osse	my guess is it only tries id_rsa
2021-05-18 15:16:09	dmr104	well I tried already with -v and it appears to try my key first lists public key
2021-05-18 15:16:29	ikke	osse: it should try keys the agent knows about as well
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2021-05-18 15:17:50	ikke	dmr104: does ssh-add -L list it?
2021-05-18 15:18:39	j416	ah, duh
2021-05-18 15:18:44	j416	user must be git of course.
2021-05-18 15:18:57	j416	what about, ssh git@github.com
2021-05-18 15:19:10	ikke	right
2021-05-18 15:19:16	ikke	ssh -T git@github.com
2021-05-18 15:19:25	ikke	the username is always git
2021-05-18 15:20:05	dmr104	yes git@github.com works
2021-05-18 15:20:18	j416	problem solved then
2021-05-18 15:20:35	ikke	yup
2021-05-18 15:20:42	ikke	but what happens on fetch?
2021-05-18 15:20:46	ikke	git remote -v
2021-05-18 15:20:51	dmr104	why did git fetch from a private github repo work?
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2021-05-18 15:20:54	ikke	make sure you use git@github.com there as well
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2021-05-18 15:21:07	dmr104	not work sorry
2021-05-18 15:21:14	ikke	verify your remote
2021-05-18 15:21:30	+schlesser	Hey guys, is there a way to clone a specific folder from a monorepo?
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2021-05-18 15:23:19	dmr104	brilliant! works! thank people
2021-05-18 15:23:35	dmr104	must go now. cheers.
2021-05-18 15:23:38	ikke	o/
2021-05-18 15:23:57	j416	\o
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2021-05-18 15:25:02	ikke	schlesser: there is not direct support for it yet
2021-05-18 15:25:11	ikke	there is working being done
2021-05-18 15:25:48	ikke	some rough features that are there: git clone --filter=blob:none
2021-05-18 15:26:05	ikke	man git sparse-checkout
2021-05-18 15:26:06	@gitinfo	the git-sparse-checkout manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-sparse-checkout.html
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2021-05-18 15:30:50	+schlesser	ikke thanks
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2021-05-18 19:19:22	shalok	Supposing I cherry-picked 5 commits from a different branch but had to resolve some merge conflicts. Is there some way to diff the 5 commits on the other branch against the 5 equivalent (albeit modified) commits on my current branch ignoring all other changes between the branches?
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2021-05-18 19:48:55	shalok	To answer my own question: git range-diff
2021-05-18 19:49:31	shalok	It's relatively new though. Requires at least 2.20.0 and has also been improved since then.
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2021-05-19 00:09:24	mefistofeles	When I `drop` a commit in a rebase -i, does the changes made in this commit get reverted or something like that?
2021-05-19 00:09:33	mefistofeles	s/does/do
2021-05-19 00:09:47	mefistofeles	or are they just ignored?
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2021-05-19 00:14:08	mefistofeles	ah nvm, I see changes get reverted
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2021-05-19 01:10:10	ycon_	Hiya. Am I going crazy, or is it normal for git not to see whatn I change from text case (eg lower to upper case) of a folder?
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2021-05-19 01:23:28	mackerman	ycon_: Yes. git does not track paths seperate from files.
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2021-05-19 01:23:56	mackerman	Stage file changes by adding new files and rm the old ones.  AKA git mv
2021-05-19 01:26:10	ycon_	mackerman: wow, that can really trick people up
2021-05-19 01:26:12	ycon_	hugely
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2021-05-19 01:26:30	ycon_	eg macOS is case insensitive (IIRC) but linux is not...
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2021-05-19 01:38:28	jaggz	I have a few lines in my branch that belong in a separate branch
2021-05-19 01:38:39	jaggz	it's already committed.
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2021-05-19 01:39:13	jaggz	both should be based on the one parent though.. maybe check out that one edited file in a new branch?
2021-05-19 01:39:36	jaggz	and keep all the other edits in the prior, and maybe check out the original unedited version of those few lines... hm... bleh
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2021-05-19 04:14:29	guardian	hello. I have the repository A which has a repository B as submodule. Then B has C and D as submodules. Is it possible to use a single line to clone A with B and C without D?
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2021-05-19 05:32:01	shtrb	osse, where will you be moving ?
2021-05-19 05:32:28	shtrb	*Where will this channel would be moving ?
2021-05-19 05:32:41	osse	Nowhere yet. We do want a bigger kitchen and perhaps a spare bedroom
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2021-05-19 05:33:09	osse	I don't know. I assume #git at libera.chat but it's not open yet
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2021-05-19 05:33:26	 *	shtrb wonder what a spare bedroom and kitchen mean in irc terms
2021-05-19 05:33:39	osse	it was a joke
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2021-05-19 05:33:45	shtrb	Oh
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2021-05-19 05:51:50	abstrn	wait whats happening to #git?
2021-05-19 05:51:57	osse	nothing
2021-05-19 05:52:05	osse	but something seems to be happening to freenode
2021-05-19 05:52:05	abstrn	oh okay lol
2021-05-19 05:52:56	shtrb	abstrn, nothing *yet*
2021-05-19 05:53:49	osse	https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
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2021-05-19 05:57:24	abstrn	oh yikes thanks for the link i was out of the loop
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2021-05-19 05:58:15	osse	since then the resignation has been made
2021-05-19 05:59:25	shtrb	osse, you no longer op here ?
2021-05-19 05:59:45	osse	if i'm not then no one has told me :O
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2021-05-19 06:00:35	shtrb	I thought for a moment that resignation mean you remove the channel op from yourself
2021-05-19 06:00:55	DuClare	resignation means a bunch of freenode staffers resigned
2021-05-19 06:00:57	selckin	its server/network ops
2021-05-19 06:01:05	shtrb	ahh
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2021-05-19 06:14:44	osse	caesar just got stabbed
2021-05-19 06:14:46	osse	and now this
2021-05-19 06:14:50	osse	interesting times
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2021-05-19 06:23:39	shtrb	Ceaser ?
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2021-05-19 06:56:30	asokM	hi! I can't ssh push to my github repository.. it complains that I've logged in with another username
2021-05-19 06:56:58	ikke	How are you authenticating?
2021-05-19 06:57:07	asokM	I've set the correct user config with git config user.name, user.email
2021-05-19 06:57:11	asokM	ikke: ssh
2021-05-19 06:57:20	asokM	sorry with keys
2021-05-19 06:57:30	ikke	You need to make sure the right key is used
2021-05-19 06:57:40	ikke	by default, ssh will use the first key that succeeds
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2021-05-19 06:59:14	osse	and the right URL
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2021-05-19 07:01:36	asokM	ikke: indeed, although I've defined a separate host for github in my ssh config, it was using the default ssh key
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2021-05-19 07:02:11	ikke	asokM: you need to add IdentitiesOnly yes
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2021-05-19 07:03:29	asokM	ikke: to what?? to Host * rule?
2021-05-19 07:03:43	ikke	To the rule where you set the ssh key to use
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2021-05-19 07:04:31	asokM	ikke: same complaint..
2021-05-19 07:06:31	asokM	ikke: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Vt7zSwbQB6/
2021-05-19 07:06:37	asokM	what is wrong with my config??
2021-05-19 07:06:57	ikke	asokM: Did you change your remote url in the repo it 'github'?
2021-05-19 07:07:18	asokM	ikke: the remote url is github:username/my-repo.git
2021-05-19 07:07:31	ikke	Ok, that should be fine
2021-05-19 07:07:41	asokM	it isn't though :/
2021-05-19 07:07:41	ikke	oh
2021-05-19 07:07:46	ikke	you did not specify a username
2021-05-19 07:07:50	ikke	git@github:...
2021-05-19 07:08:04	ikke	Oh, you did in your config
2021-05-19 07:08:06	ikke	hmm
2021-05-19 07:08:09	asokM	yep
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2021-05-19 07:08:15	ikke	can you try ssh -vvT git@github
2021-05-19 07:08:54	shtrb	that would not work
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2021-05-19 07:09:05	ikke	shtrb: ?
2021-05-19 07:09:31	shtrb	wrong channel sorry
2021-05-19 07:09:34	ikke	oh
2021-05-19 07:10:32	asokM	ikke: it authenticates successfully with my work ssh key
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2021-05-19 07:15:51	shtrb	asokM, fyi if you had been logged in from home and then connect to the vpn you must make sure your vpn ip is authorized to push to your account
2021-05-19 07:16:54	shtrb	or work/home or any other setup
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2021-05-19 07:23:32	asokM	ikke: removing Host * rule worked for me.. looks like it's not a fallthrough thing.. ssh will indeed use the first key available
2021-05-19 07:23:59	asokM	even when I moved the Host * rule to the bottom of the file, it was still activated
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2021-05-19 07:55:19	drogas	I am on branch B, branch A is the develop branch. when i do git pull I get `Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref 'refs/heads/B'
2021-05-19 07:55:19	drogas	from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.`
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2021-05-19 07:56:05	drogas	I guess what I want to do is merge all the changes from A into B
2021-05-19 07:56:07	moldy	drogas: you want to pull from branch A? `git pull origin A`
2021-05-19 07:56:52	drogas	would that change my branch to A moldy ? I just want all the changes from A in B
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2021-05-19 07:57:01	moldy	drogas: no, it should do what you want
2021-05-19 07:57:08	acagastya	Hi, I was trying to understand what `--mirror` does, and so I created a repo called `a` which had some commits, then `git clone --mirror b`, and made few more commits to `a`.  If I was to now clone `b`, should it reflect new commits to `a`?
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2021-05-19 07:57:20	moldy	drogas: afaik it's the same as `git fetch; git merge origin/A`
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2021-05-19 07:59:28	drogas	okay now I am getting ` * branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD
2021-05-19 07:59:28	drogas	Auto-merging file.py
2021-05-19 07:59:29	drogas	CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in file.py
2021-05-19 07:59:29	drogas	Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result.`
2021-05-19 07:59:42	drogas	but it doesn't say what the conflicts are
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2021-05-19 08:02:01	moldy	drogas: if you don't have anything else configured, git inserts markers into the file
2021-05-19 08:02:10	moldy	drogas: look for HEAD in the file
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2021-05-19 08:03:21	drogas	okay with vscode it shows me HEAD and Incoming Change.
2021-05-19 08:03:39	drogas	it is weird. it is just a few imports shouldn't have been a conflict
2021-05-19 08:03:49	drogas	anyways, can I click accept changes?
2021-05-19 08:04:19	drogas	and redo `git pull origin master` ?
2021-05-19 08:05:57	moldy	i'm not familiar with vscode, sorry
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2021-05-19 08:06:17	moldy	you need to resole the conflict by editing the file somehow, then run `git add thefile` to tell git that the conflict is resolved
2021-05-19 08:06:29	moldy	and then you can `git commit` the merge
2021-05-19 08:06:54	osse	!eek
2021-05-19 08:06:54	@gitinfo	[!eekaconflict] Merge conflicts are a natural part of collaboration. When facing one, *don't panic*. Read "How to resolve conflicts" in man git-merge and http://git-scm.com/book/ch3-2.html#Basic-Merge-Conflicts then carefully go through the conflicts. Picking one side verbatim is not always the right choice! A nice video explaining merge conflicts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz7NuSCH6II
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2021-05-19 08:08:24	drogas	okay I see, now I did that moldy and I type `git add file.py` and it took me to the terminal editor no idea how to save and get out
2021-05-19 08:08:53	osse	:wq
2021-05-19 08:10:08	moldy	drogas: that `git add file.py` opens an editor seems weird, i never experienced that
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2021-05-19 08:10:53	drogas	sorry
2021-05-19 08:10:55	drogas	meant git commit
2021-05-19 08:11:18	drogas	i left out `-m` big mistake
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2021-05-19 08:12:14	drogas	okay now I wrote and saved is it all done now?
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2021-05-19 08:20:40	+s17	do you need to push?
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2021-05-19 08:22:37	drogas	I want my branch (B after merging the changes from A) to be up-to date on the remote
2021-05-19 08:22:40	drogas	so I guess?
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2021-05-19 08:25:51	+s17	yep
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2021-05-19 08:26:44	drogas	so just `git push`?
2021-05-19 08:27:52	osse	after the merge is done you can go back to interacting with git however you normally do
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2021-05-19 08:35:07	DavidJOwens	I'm unable to pull changes from github because a local file would be overwritten by merge. The thing is that file is listed in .gitignore.
2021-05-19 08:35:08	drogas	is there a way to check if my branch B is up to date with branch A
2021-05-19 08:35:37	osse	drogas: .gitignore is irrelevant
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2021-05-19 08:35:39	osse	oops
2021-05-19 08:35:42	osse	that was for DavidJOwens
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2021-05-19 08:36:04	rfuentess	git blame is amazing until  its fingers points to you :(
2021-05-19 08:36:12	DavidJOwens	osse, ohh ok.  I thought if it was in there git wouldn't care if it got overwriten
2021-05-19 08:36:43	osse	.gitignore only deals with avoiding adding files in the first place
2021-05-19 08:36:48	rfuentess	DavidJOwens: .gitignore is only relevant for not showing the changes on a file by default. If you still do something like `git add` you force to stage the changes of said files
2021-05-19 08:36:48	osse	once they're in, they're in
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2021-05-19 08:37:23	DavidJOwens	So that means it got added to the repo at some point?
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2021-05-19 08:38:15	DavidJOwens	Would a git add . do that even if it was already in .gitignore?
2021-05-19 08:39:30	DavidJOwens	checking github I see that file in the repo.  weird
2021-05-19 08:39:38	osse	it got added to the repo at some point, yes
2021-05-19 08:39:56	osse	if it was already in .gitignore at that point the only way to add it would be to use add -f to override
2021-05-19 08:40:57	DavidJOwens	Is there a way to remove the file from git and github now?
2021-05-19 08:41:58	DavidJOwens	maybe delete the file and then do a new commit?
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2021-05-19 08:42:42	osse	git rm
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2021-05-19 08:42:48	osse	(add --cached to leave it on disk)
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2021-05-19 08:46:12	DavidJOwens	thanks.  I'll do that
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2021-05-19 09:15:27	Walex	BTW Freenode's ownership and management are being privatized *today*. The alternative is the libera.chat network
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2021-05-19 09:16:03	ikke	yes, we are aware
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2021-05-19 10:14:25	--	Mode #git [+v rsmarples] by gitinfo
2021-05-19 10:14:31	+rsmarples	Hello. I am struggling to resolve a situation with a production git repository. Upon getting a fresh clone, git notes that a file is already modified locally. git diff shows that it has rolled to the prior revision of the file on disk!
2021-05-19 10:15:06	+rsmarples	using process monitoring tools, we have determined that git itself is doing this, so not any 3rd party tool
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2021-05-19 10:15:52	osse	does the prior version just happen to be one with different line endings?
2021-05-19 10:16:02	+rsmarples	no
2021-05-19 10:16:14	+rsmarples	we can see changed text
2021-05-19 10:16:16	osse	interesting
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2021-05-19 10:16:40	osse	git status says it's modified?
2021-05-19 10:16:45	+rsmarples	yes
2021-05-19 10:17:07	osse	what does git diff say ?
2021-05-19 10:17:14	+rsmarples	git reset --hard does not help either
2021-05-19 10:17:53	+rsmarples	git diff shows that the on disk file is one version older than the repository file
2021-05-19 10:18:10	osse	I don't know what that means
2021-05-19 10:18:15	osse	usually it prints out a patch
2021-05-19 10:18:19	osse	-foo
2021-05-19 10:18:21	osse	+bar
2021-05-19 10:18:25	+rsmarples	yes
2021-05-19 10:18:46	+rsmarples	it spits out a patch that reverses the changes comitted
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2021-05-19 10:19:01	osse	what kind of change is it?
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2021-05-19 10:19:24	+rsmarples	a change just like any other
2021-05-19 10:19:45	+rsmarples	there is nothing unusual about this change we can see
2021-05-19 10:20:10	osse	can you show the output of
2021-05-19 10:20:16	osse	git hash-object file
2021-05-19 10:20:20	osse	git rev-parse HEAD:fike
2021-05-19 10:20:23	osse	git rev-parse HEAD:file
2021-05-19 10:20:27	osse	git rev-parse HEAD~:file
2021-05-19 10:20:37	osse	where file is the path to the file
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2021-05-19 10:23:31	+rsmarples	git hash-object file shows a different hash to git rev-parse HEAD:file and git rev-parse HEAD~:file
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2021-05-19 10:24:51	Hello71	"process monitoring tools" is this wsl
2021-05-19 10:25:16	osse	rsmarples: was the file changed in the latest commit, or a prior one?
2021-05-19 10:25:27	+rsmarples	prior one, HEAD~2 shows the same hash
2021-05-19 10:25:50	+rsmarples	Hello71, yes this is on windows
2021-05-19 10:25:52	osse	what happens if you delete it from disk and then git checkout HEAD -- file ?
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2021-05-19 10:26:16	Hello71	git for windows? wsl1? wsl2?
2021-05-19 10:27:01	+rsmarples	git from visual studio 2019
2021-05-19 10:27:38	+rsmarples	it says "1 path updated from the index" and a git status shows it's modified again :/
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2021-05-19 10:28:05	+rsmarples	sorry, "Updated 1 path from the index"
2021-05-19 10:28:38	osse	what happens if you modify the file arbirarily yourself?
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2021-05-19 10:29:09	netcrash	Hello, how can I rollback the code to a specific tag ?
2021-05-19 10:29:37	j416	netcrash: what do you mean by rollback?
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2021-05-19 10:29:50	netcrash	pull a specific tag version that has old code
2021-05-19 10:29:58	netcrash	and not the recent
2021-05-19 10:30:10	j416	netcrash: are you looking to temporarily check that out, or, discard anything after it?
2021-05-19 10:30:31	netcrash	temporarily check that out
2021-05-19 10:30:36	j416	netcrash: git checkout <tag>  # where <tag> is the name of the tag
2021-05-19 10:30:43	netcrash	thank you
2021-05-19 10:31:09	j416	unless you've squelched it you'll end up with a warning about detached HEAD; this is normal.
2021-05-19 10:31:13	netcrash	to discard anything after it I would have to use a new branch correct?
2021-05-19 10:31:24	osse	rsmarples: also, what does git check-attr -a path/to/file  say?
2021-05-19 10:31:27	netcrash	squelched?
2021-05-19 10:31:31	j416	netcrash: or reset whatever branch you have to that state.
2021-05-19 10:31:34	j416	netcrash: silenced
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2021-05-19 10:31:44	+rsmarples	osse, good call, it only shows my local change. this looks like a case insensitive filename issue that i have just spotted
2021-05-19 10:31:44	netcrash	thank you
2021-05-19 10:31:53	j416	netcrash: you can configure messages to not be shown.
2021-05-19 10:32:01	netcrash	ok
2021-05-19 10:32:09	netcrash	going to try , thank you
2021-05-19 10:33:31	osse	rsmarples: hah, is it by any chance the linux repo itself?
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2021-05-19 10:39:04	+rsmarples	osse, sadly no, it's a work one
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2021-05-19 10:39:27	osse	so did someone commit a change to a file AND a slight rename in the same commit?
2021-05-19 10:39:56	+rsmarples	yes
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2021-05-19 10:40:10	+rsmarples	so git had two different files and thus the alteration on disk
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2021-05-19 10:40:57	netcrash	Another question , If I place a tag the code commited to there will have that tag correct?
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2021-05-19 10:47:45	j416	netcrash: you'd typically tag a commit. whatever that commit has, is what the tag will have, so to speak.
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2021-05-19 10:48:22	j416	netcrash: annotated tags are a good idea. they also let you add a message.
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2021-05-19 10:54:37	netcrash	j416: thank you
2021-05-19 10:54:42	j416	o/
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2021-05-19 10:59:58	xnox	git subtree merge --squash => somehow for me has stopped producing single commits, and instead does recursive merge strategy
2021-05-19 11:00:00	xnox	why?
2021-05-19 11:00:05	xnox	has there been a regression?
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2021-05-19 11:02:15	rangergord	I've started using ssh keys for git auth (I normally never use keys for anything). I'm not bothering with having a single identity and copying it on multiple machines, I just run ssh-keygen whenever I'm on a new system, and add the public key to github. So I ended up with like 8 identities, I just give them descriptive names on Github like home-ubuntu2004vm, home-WSL, work-debian10vm, etc. This isn't a big deal right?
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2021-05-19 11:31:42	rfuentess	rangergord: if I'm understanding correctly your text, you are speaking about the keys for pushing into github repos, right ?
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2021-05-19 11:41:38	rangergord	rfuentess: that's right
2021-05-19 11:42:37	rfuentess	rangergord: Ok. This channel is more over the git protocol itself than the Github portal. This is probably why not one was able to tell you something solid.
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2021-05-19 11:43:53	rfuentess	rangergord: Anyway, for that specific case, if you define multiple public keys each one for different machine, the complexity is only for yourself.  It is also not bad on terms of security. A key compromised will only affect a single machine
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2021-05-19 11:45:37	Guest20	hi there
2021-05-19 11:45:41	Guest20	i get this error cmdline: git push --porcelain origin
2021-05-19 11:45:43	rfuentess	rangergord: now if those keys were used for signing commits. That is another history (at least for me), Because you will be screwing the purpose of the idea (multiple identities on different commits)
2021-05-19 11:45:49	rangergord	great, improved security via procrastination. Fits me to a T./
2021-05-19 11:45:50	Guest20	tderr: 'fatal: The current branch mybranchv has no upstream branch.
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2021-05-19 12:12:01	Guest20	could someone tell me how to push it says no upstream branch
2021-05-19 12:12:11	Guest20	i am doing this through python git api
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2021-05-19 12:17:05	xnox	never mind, it is not. it just looks odder than before.
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2021-05-19 12:34:15	swensson	Quick question. Is there anything like "auto pull"? Thinking of ways to improve the updating of my websites...
2021-05-19 12:34:41	bremner	swensson: maybe some of the discussion on !deploy is helpful
2021-05-19 12:34:41	@gitinfo	swensson: Git is not a deployment tool, but you can build one around it (in simple environments) or use it as an object store(for complex ones). Here are some options/ideas to get you started: http://gitolite.com/deploy.html
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2021-05-19 12:35:34	swensson	bremner, Ah thanks... I'll look into that :)
2021-05-19 12:35:52	CommunistWolf	in the past I've used webhooks to make that happen in an efficient way. not really built into git though
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2021-05-19 12:46:49	cbreak	git has real hooks
2021-05-19 12:47:00	cbreak	they're probably easier to use than a web hook
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2021-05-19 13:35:11	RandomGuyOnIrc	I just pushed a change to master on a remote branch
2021-05-19 13:35:28	RandomGuyOnIrc	how can I undo that change on both the remote and local copy?
2021-05-19 13:36:42	lambda	RandomGuyOnIrc: git-revert(1)
2021-05-19 13:36:53	splud	git revert sha ; git push
2021-05-19 13:37:03	RandomGuyOnIrc	lambda: splud thanks
2021-05-19 13:37:33	splud	which produces a commit which reverts your change.  If you committed a password, it'll still be recorded in the history.
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2021-05-19 18:58:00	irc_user	If I do `git diff -U0` there is still stuff like `@@ -20 +22 @@`. Is there any way to not show this at all or show something cleaner like a line number or something?
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2021-05-19 19:15:29	garrettkajmowicz	How might I figure out why "git apply" is skipping all the patch files? If I run "git apply --check -3 -v -p2 --directory=. patchfile" I'm told that both files are skipped. But if I run "patch --dry-run --verbose -p2 < patchfile" the patch command recognizes everything and would apply 2/4 hunks, failing 1 in each of the 2 files touched.
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2021-05-19 19:17:02	garrettkajmowicz	And the moment I ask I accidentally find the answer. *headdesk*
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2021-05-19 19:18:21	quackyhapp	is this an official channel (considering the namespace)?
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2021-05-19 19:19:23	quackyhapp	Could you at least register the channel on the new network please?
2021-05-19 19:19:28	quackyhapp	Will be hard to move otherwise.
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2021-05-19 20:28:27	Linkandzelda	whats the best way to manage multiple git repos in a single repo, with sub-repos having their own branches?
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2021-05-19 20:32:26	nedbat	Linkandzelda: why should they be in one repo?
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2021-05-19 20:35:33	Linkandzelda	nedbat: i have a file based wiki which i use inside vim. in the root of the repo is the main index, and some sub pages. i'd like sub-folders (the sub-repos) to be there so the wiki can point to other repos without containing any project data of that repo. each repo is a writing project
2021-05-19 20:35:53	nedbat	Linkandzelda: maybe symlinks?
2021-05-19 20:36:49	Linkandzelda	are symlinks stored in a repo?
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2021-05-19 20:37:47	nedbat	Linkandzelda: not sure tbh
2021-05-19 20:37:54	nedbat	(if they point outside the repo)
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2021-05-19 20:39:19	Linkandzelda	so i'd create sub-folders inside the repo, but they are symlinks to repos outside the repo? if git doesnt store symlinks, then its not a bad idea
2021-05-19 20:39:39	Linkandzelda	though would have been nice to have an all-inclusive repo
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2021-05-20 00:56:07	quackyhapp	Is channel migrating?
2021-05-20 00:56:41	ikke	quackyhapp: we're looking at the options
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2021-05-20 01:32:57	adlternative	HEY, how can I find a commit with gpg?
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2021-05-20 01:37:52	adlternative	pgp signature....
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2021-05-20 01:40:32	thiago	you want to find a commit that is signed by a specific key?
2021-05-20 01:40:40	thiago	or one that has the exact signature?
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2021-05-20 02:07:23	adlternative	thiago: I find them,thanks, I just want to know if the signature is store in a git tag/commit object..
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2021-05-20 02:11:23	quackyhapp	ikke: just wanna point out, if you haven't seen this already. https://distfiles.dereferenced.org/stuff/nirvana-log.txt That's t-42, main staffer. Notice how he talks about deopping all the staffers, which he did: none is left except tom*w.
2021-05-20 02:11:44	quackyhapp	ikke: I can see that tom*w  is in here. He sits on that ofct network apparently, so be vary!
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2021-05-20 02:12:35	quackyhapp	ikke: so don't let just him decide or push for that network.
2021-05-20 02:12:42	quackyhapp	(please)
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2021-05-20 02:29:56	ikke	quackyhapp: I'm very well aware of the situation
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2021-05-20 02:44:26	raxor2k	I have an backendAPI and a frontendAPI whereas the frontendAPI needs the backendAPI to run the webapplication. Should i still have both API in the same repository in github? im so unsure about this
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2021-05-20 02:46:31	ikke	Depends on your workflow
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2021-05-20 04:41:12	cousteau	Hi
2021-05-20 04:42:15	cousteau	What are the steps to undo a git push?  (I know it's far from trivial)
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2021-05-20 04:43:35	cousteau	Basically a coworker pushed to master instead of the correct branch by mistake.
2021-05-20 04:44:21	osse	a second push (perhaps with --force) to overwrite what's already been pushed
2021-05-20 04:44:30	cousteau	We can assume that not many people have run git fetch yet, so it's feasible to just tell them the commands they need to run
2021-05-20 04:45:02	cousteau	osse: ok thanks!  What about people who have already fetched/pulled?
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2021-05-20 04:45:34	osse	cousteau: depending on the complexity they might be able to just pull -r
2021-05-20 04:45:48	osse	cousteau: man git-rebase  see the section on recovering from an upstream rebase
2021-05-20 04:45:48	@gitinfo	cousteau: the git-rebase manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-rebase.html
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2021-05-20 04:47:20	cousteau	I think we can assume nobody added anything else on top of master
2021-05-20 04:47:39	osse	in that case pull -r will do the needful
2021-05-20 04:47:59	cousteau	OK good :D
2021-05-20 04:49:12	cousteau	In my case I just fetched rather than pulling, so it's probably just a matter of manually rewinding the remote branch
2021-05-20 04:51:11	osse	pull -r = pull --rebase = fetch && rebase
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2021-05-20 04:51:36	cousteau	OK so fetching again would be enough?
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2021-05-20 04:51:44	osse	no
2021-05-20 04:51:47	cousteau	Maybe with --force
2021-05-20 04:51:53	osse	fetching does not affect your local master in any way
2021-05-20 04:52:22	cousteau	No but it does affect my local remotes/origin/master
2021-05-20 04:52:39	osse	yes
2021-05-20 04:52:56	osse	if you have fetched after they push --force then there is no need to fetch again
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2021-05-20 04:53:38	cousteau	Right now I have master where it should be and origin/master one commit ahead
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2021-05-20 05:18:50	snazzybouche	hi all, I am trying to add half an edit to my index with `git add -p`. For one of my files, when I reach a certain edit, I press `e` to edit the hunk and then delete half of the added lines (the change is entirely additive). However after closing the editor I am met with an error of the form "error: patch fragment without header at line 47: @@ -58,7 +83,7 @@" and told to try again. I've never had this happen before -
2021-05-20 05:18:50	snazzybouche	how do I get around it?
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2021-05-20 05:31:55	snazzybouche	I've sidestepped the issue by just deleting the change in a text editor, committing, and then undoing, but that's no fun and I'd still like to know what could've happened
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2021-05-20 05:59:59	jast	wow, fun stuff happening
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2021-05-20 06:00:53	ikke	hey jast
2021-05-20 06:00:59	jast	hey ikke
2021-05-20 06:01:01	ikke	certainly
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2021-05-20 06:01:58	jast	and of course someone else registered my nick on libera
2021-05-20 06:02:08	ikke	ugh
2021-05-20 06:02:10	ikke	sad
2021-05-20 06:02:32	jast	so _clearly_ we can't move there :-)
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2021-05-20 06:10:58	jast	I notice some people were suggesting a move to Matrix... however AFAIK Matrix is designed for everyone needing to register an account
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2021-05-20 06:11:46	ikke	I'd prefer to stay on irc
2021-05-20 06:11:52	jast	same
2021-05-20 06:12:23	jast	also means I don't have to make a new bot...
2021-05-20 06:12:40	osse	snazzybouche: you simply delete lines starting with + right?
2021-05-20 06:12:48	snazzybouche	right
2021-05-20 06:13:07	osse	huh
2021-05-20 06:13:08	ikke	jast: osse tried to register #git on libera.chat, when he still had ops, but it was a restricted namespace
2021-05-20 06:13:33	jast	hmm, the website claims you can just register # channels
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2021-05-20 06:13:45	cadmio	Hello
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2021-05-20 06:13:56	ikke	jast: we could try to ask about it in #libera
2021-05-20 06:13:57	osse	snazzybouche: does it always happen? or only some files?
2021-05-20 06:14:18	snazzybouche	I think they periodically deregister any # channel that's not gone through their proper systems
2021-05-20 06:14:19	cadmio	When I try to add a new file to a repository on github the "Commit New file" button is not active
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2021-05-20 06:14:53	snazzybouche	osse: interesting, I just tried it again and it still fails
2021-05-20 06:15:07	snazzybouche	it's the same file - I'll try on another
2021-05-20 06:15:11	osse	snazzybouche: which editor?
2021-05-20 06:15:32	snazzybouche	webstorm for most of the work, but nvim for patch editing
2021-05-20 06:15:37	snazzybouche	I'll try vi
2021-05-20 06:15:54	jast	hmm, apparently you need an "official blessing of someone who is able to speak for the project" to properly register a project channel
2021-05-20 06:16:38	ikke	We could ask the mailing list about it
2021-05-20 06:16:46	snazzybouche	ah crap. it is something to do with nvim
2021-05-20 06:16:52	ikke	someone posted a thread for #git-devel
2021-05-20 06:16:55	snazzybouche	osse: thanks for the pointer lmao
2021-05-20 06:17:20	osse	snazzybouche: perhaps it adds (or removes, but I doubt it) a UTF-8 BOM or something like that
2021-05-20 06:18:16	jast	honestly I'm wondering if they even *want* projects to move if that's the kind of process you need to go through
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2021-05-20 06:19:16	wynn	jast: regarding your nick being unavailable over there, you might want to try asking libera staff whether you could get it back
2021-05-20 06:19:23	wynn	there was a bunch of squatting, and they might be able to help
2021-05-20 06:19:58	jast	I guess
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2021-05-20 06:28:10	+jeph	Hello, I remember reading a while ago some talk about being able to add a small piece of information to a commit after the fact. Almost like a tag, but not unique or anything. Has this become a thing, and what is that called?
2021-05-20 06:28:46	jast	it's called notes
2021-05-20 06:29:26	jast	and it's not actually part of the commit object (of course - that would change the commit's ID), instead there are notes namespaces which reference the commit that each note belongs to
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2021-05-20 06:30:24	jast	man git-notes
2021-05-20 06:30:24	@gitinfo	the git-notes manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-notes.html
2021-05-20 06:30:34	+jeph	Thanks
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2021-05-20 07:13:59	cousteau	osse: thanks, we managed to mess down what had been messed up :)
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2021-05-20 07:21:04	cousteau	Terminology question: when you say "a commit" do you always refer to "a snapshot of the code", or could you also be referring to "the set of changes between one commit and its parent"?
2021-05-20 07:22:01	cousteau	I often make the mistake of seeing commits as changes/differences, when they're actually snapshots.
2021-05-20 07:22:18	ikke	the commit basically means the snapshot
2021-05-20 07:22:41	bremner	I sometimes use "this commit" as shorthand for "the changes introduced by this commit", e.g. in commit messages
2021-05-20 07:23:20	cousteau	OK... I was thinking on cherry-pick, which copies _____ to the current branch
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2021-05-20 07:24:05	osse	the man page goes with "the changes introduced by ..."
2021-05-20 07:24:13	cousteau	It copies another commit (set of changes) to the current branch, but it doesn't copy another commit (snapshot) to the current branch
2021-05-20 07:24:27	cousteau	OK, guess that clarifies it!
2021-05-20 07:24:49	osse	personally i probably say just "commit" about both
2021-05-20 07:25:21	osse	but usually the context makes it obvious, or the setting is such that it's natural to explain
2021-05-20 07:25:21	cousteau	I see, so I'm not a weirdo for saying it :)
2021-05-20 07:27:01	cousteau	(well, a commit is a code snapshot AND a list of references to other (parent) commits)
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2021-05-20 15:34:01	et09	i want to see something akin to "git status" (listing modified/new/deleted files) except more with the syntax of "git diff", e.g., the difference between branch foobar and current state
2021-05-20 15:34:08	et09	what would that be
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2021-05-20 15:34:43	tang^	git diff with that gitish path applied?
2021-05-20 15:35:12	et09	well i don't want the actual diff, just the file names
2021-05-20 15:35:35	et09	i had a file i created on another branch, i can't remember the name, and want to check it out
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2021-05-20 15:36:51	et09	(ah well there's the file)
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2021-05-20 15:40:06	et09	i guess git diff --summary is pretty close
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2021-05-20 16:02:40	osse	et09: --name-only ?
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2021-05-20 16:09:36	+anton24	Hi, I have a question; is it possible to pause a merge and work on other stuff?
2021-05-20 16:10:12	@ikke	You mean, while you're in the middle of a merge request?
2021-05-20 16:10:16	@ikke	sorry
2021-05-20 16:10:18	@ikke	merge conflict
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2021-05-20 16:11:21	+anton24	Yes, with mergetool, i can stop that but since in status it is "MERGING" I want to pause that and checkout other stuff
2021-05-20 16:11:30	@ikke	then no, you cannot
2021-05-20 16:11:39	@ikke	there is, git worktree
2021-05-20 16:11:39	+anton24	I have a really big merge and would like to work on support in the meantime
2021-05-20 16:12:01	@ikke	with git worktree, you can checkout a separate branch in a different location
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2021-05-20 16:13:47	+anton24	Alright
2021-05-20 16:14:08	+anton24	thanks for you answer.
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2021-05-20 16:32:53	toddr	We've got an issue with 2 git commands triggered from a Makefile run in parallel getting in each other's way due to a git index.lock file.
2021-05-20 16:33:19	toddr	I assume that doing something like `git ls-files` does NOT create a lock file. is that correct?
2021-05-20 16:33:35	toddr	if so, where can I find what activies DO create the lock file?
2021-05-20 16:34:03	cbreak	can't you group them in one single rule?
2021-05-20 16:34:17	cbreak	(I'd expect modifying commands to create a lock file)
2021-05-20 16:34:43	@ikke	reading command do create it as well
2021-05-20 16:34:51	@ikke	they do opertunistic updating of the index
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2021-05-20 16:35:49	@ikke	you can set GIT_OPTIONAL_LOCKS=0
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2021-05-20 16:38:55	toddr	right. I was hoping there's a GIT_JUST_WAIT_IN_LINE=1
2021-05-20 16:40:02	@ikke	well, a lock file _is_ to wait in line
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2021-05-20 16:40:43	toddr	the error I'm getting is fatal: Unable to create '/my/repo/.git/index.lock': File exists.
2021-05-20 16:40:50	@ikke	right
2021-05-20 16:41:07	toddr	which isn't really a wait in line so much as a panic and make everything fail :P
2021-05-20 16:41:10	@ikke	if it's read-only operations, then the lock is optional
2021-05-20 16:41:39	@ikke	so disabling the lock (and thus the update operation) should solve this
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2021-05-20 16:42:47	@ikke	"If set to 0, Git will complete any requested operation without performing any optional sub-operations that require taking a lock. For example, this will prevent git status from refreshing the index as a side effect."
2021-05-20 16:43:18	toddr	From what I can see in our Makefiles 95% of the git calls are to ls-files.
2021-05-20 16:43:21	@ikke	"This is useful for processes running in the background which do not want to cause lock contention with other operations on the repository."
2021-05-20 16:44:10	toddr	ok will try it. thanks!
2021-05-20 16:45:02	osse	hmm, is the number of git calls in the makefile so high it makes sense to use a percentage?
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2021-05-20 16:48:32	toddr	we actually do have about 20 lines doing git commands in our various of Makefiles
2021-05-20 16:48:52	toddr	some of which may be formulas which means they're called more than once and potentially in parallel.
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2021-05-20 17:07:20	xD_	guys when will file metadata be default in git storage?
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2021-05-20 17:07:36	xD_	no work arounds like git-store-meta.pl
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2021-05-20 17:21:24	cbreak	is there even any intention of adding that?
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2021-05-20 17:21:35	cbreak	file meta data beyond filename and size doesn't sound particularly useful
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2021-05-20 17:50:59	xD_	cbreak: timestamp last modified?
2021-05-20 17:51:14	xD_	stupid to loose this kind of data for static files
2021-05-20 17:51:20	cbreak	get that from git commit history
2021-05-20 17:51:23	xD_	like binary
2021-05-20 17:51:31	xD_	you cant restore it on FS
2021-05-20 17:51:34	xD_	without a script
2021-05-20 17:51:37	cbreak	you could, if you wanted to
2021-05-20 17:51:42	cbreak	but it makes no sense to do that
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2021-05-20 17:51:44	xD_	ofc  when i pull 10k files
2021-05-20 17:51:50	cbreak	(because that'd break a ton of software)
2021-05-20 17:51:59	xD_	well the perl script does the job
2021-05-20 17:52:00	xD_	xD
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2021-05-20 17:52:06	xD_	but it should be default @ git
2021-05-20 17:52:16	cbreak	no
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2021-05-20 17:52:26	xD_	why not?
2021-05-20 17:52:30	cbreak	(because that'd break a ton of software)
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2021-05-20 17:52:37	xD_	why?
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2021-05-20 17:52:42	cbreak	if I switch to a branch, I want all files to have been modified right now
2021-05-20 17:52:46	cbreak	at the time of the switch
2021-05-20 17:52:54	cbreak	so that make will rebuild everything that depends on them
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2021-05-20 17:53:08	cbreak	if it'd instead change the modified time into the past, no rebuild would happen
2021-05-20 17:53:12	xD_	we are talkin about meta data?
2021-05-20 17:53:18	xD_	if its missing use current time stamp?
2021-05-20 17:53:18	cbreak	file change metadata
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2021-05-20 17:53:26	xD_	like it is now?
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2021-05-20 17:53:32	cbreak	it's not missing
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2021-05-20 17:53:41	cbreak	files always have changed time / date
2021-05-20 17:53:50	xD_	@ git?
2021-05-20 17:53:51	cbreak	and that information is updated when git changes files
2021-05-20 17:54:00	cbreak	to the time when git modifies said files
2021-05-20 17:54:05	cbreak	that allows build systems to work
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2021-05-20 17:54:16	cbreak	now, if git would modify the time into the past, then that would break build systems
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2021-05-20 17:54:22	xD_	why cant it write back this data to the fs as last modified?
2021-05-20 17:54:25	b0nn	I have a project on github, I want to merge a new tree over the existing one (in effect I want to replace what I have with shiny new stuff™) but cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to do it, sans deleting the project and starting again (which I don't want to do as I want to keep the old tree, for reasons)
2021-05-20 17:54:25	cbreak	-> messing with modificatiaon times would suck
2021-05-20 17:54:37	cbreak	xD_: because it'd break build systems
2021-05-20 17:54:42	b0nn	Any ideas?
2021-05-20 17:54:57	xD_	well git has many design flaws
2021-05-20 17:55:06	cbreak	b0nn: you can kill history by force pushing
2021-05-20 17:55:18	xD_	so i wouldnt mind this as a feature
2021-05-20 17:55:24	xD_	just dont change timestamps
2021-05-20 17:55:25	b0nn	github won't let me merge in the new branch
2021-05-20 17:55:28	cbreak	or you can merge your history that you want to replace into the branch you want to keep with git merge -s ours
2021-05-20 17:55:47	xD_	but git time stamp != git store meta file
2021-05-20 17:55:53	xD_	so it could be somethign sepparate
2021-05-20 17:56:10	xD_	not affecting each other
2021-05-20 17:56:16	xD_	just implement it ...
2021-05-20 17:56:35	xD_	i only need timestamps on the filesystem when i pull
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2021-05-20 17:57:12	xD_	and if they deviate who cares
2021-05-20 17:57:19	xD_	last checked in will be saved
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2021-05-20 17:57:37	cbreak	git commits have time stamp
2021-05-20 17:57:40	cbreak	just use those
2021-05-20 17:57:41	xD_	yes
2021-05-20 17:57:46	xD_	google it it wont work
2021-05-20 17:57:56	xD_	or we wouldnt have git-store-meta.pl
2021-05-20 17:57:58	b0nn	This is all I have on github https://imgur.com/a/bWuG7Vv
2021-05-20 17:57:58	xD_	as a tool
2021-05-20 17:58:00	xD_	pre-hook
2021-05-20 17:58:28	osse	git archive have a functionality like this
2021-05-20 17:58:37	osse	*has
2021-05-20 17:58:44	b0nn	I want what I have in master to be merged to main, with everything master becoming the project
2021-05-20 17:58:51	b0nn	(if that makes sense)
2021-05-20 17:58:52	cbreak	b0nn: so... you can force push to kill one of the histories, replacing it with the other
2021-05-20 17:59:06	cbreak	or you can merge, as I said above
2021-05-20 17:59:08	b0nn	Yeah, you're missing that I *have* pushed
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2021-05-20 17:59:20	cbreak	easy
2021-05-20 17:59:29	b0nn	It's getting github to let me merge that's the problem
2021-05-20 17:59:31	tang^	maybe try !replace
2021-05-20 17:59:31	@gitinfo	[!branch_replace] To replace one branch with the contents of another: git clean -dfx; git checkout $destination; git reset --hard $source; git reset --soft ORIG_HEAD; git add -Af .; git commit -m "Rewrite $destination with $source"; git merge -s ours $source
2021-05-20 17:59:36	xD_	cbreak: you are just repeating this https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Git_FAQ#Why_isn.27t_Git_preserving_modification_time_on_files.3F
2021-05-20 17:59:39	cbreak	github isn't involved in any of this...
2021-05-20 17:59:48	xD_	and i am talkin about a 2nd timestamp
2021-05-20 18:00:03	xD_	which is only be used for metadata when pulling
2021-05-20 18:00:08	cbreak	you don't need to merge via github
2021-05-20 18:00:27	cbreak	either force push to replace the history, or merge with -s ours and push that
2021-05-20 18:00:29	cbreak	your choice
2021-05-20 18:00:35	b0nn	tang^: thanks but that will remove the orig history won't it?
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2021-05-20 18:00:47	cbreak	yes
2021-05-20 18:00:55	cbreak	force pushing will replace the history
2021-05-20 18:01:01	cbreak	if you merge, you won't replace it
2021-05-20 18:01:06	b0nn	cbreak: I appreciate that you think you are helping, but we are talking past one another
2021-05-20 18:01:13	cbreak	not really
2021-05-20 18:01:23	xD_	the author cleary  doesnt know how to implement a proper time stamp system :P
2021-05-20 18:01:26	b0nn	I don't want to do it at the cli, I want to do it at the github page
2021-05-20 18:01:37	cbreak	I don't think the gui can do that.
2021-05-20 18:01:42	b0nn	bingo
2021-05-20 18:01:43	cbreak	does it have an -s ours option?
2021-05-20 18:01:50	cbreak	why not use git?
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2021-05-20 18:02:07	tang^	oh right... and you want a pure replacement merge
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2021-05-20 18:02:21	cbreak	git is much more powerful tool than that web page
2021-05-20 18:03:05	tang^	!merge_theirs maybe
2021-05-20 18:03:05	@gitinfo	Git supports 'merge -s ours', but not 'merge -s theirs'. For a simple workaround, see https://gist.github.com/canton7/1268587
2021-05-20 18:03:25	xD_	so when you first push a file use the current timestamp -> once it changes use the system  time stamp of the server.
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2021-05-20 18:03:32	xD_	no collision possible
2021-05-20 18:03:45	xD_	EZ win
2021-05-20 18:04:16	xD_	yet kernel ppl cant come up with that
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2021-05-20 18:37:42	ComCat	IMPORTANT NOTICE: Hi Ops. Please update the topic to point to the new server (libera.chat). Thank you. Current situation: crown prince of korea and co-founder of MtGox (bitcoin exit-scam) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox#Bankruptcy;_stolen_bitcoin_(2014%E2%80%93ongoing) - has now full control over Freenode and has destaffed ALL the staffers you knew. The staffers have founded and moved
2021-05-20 18:37:47	ComCat	to Libera.chat. Sponsors of Freenode are beginning to pull out, it is unknown for how long the freenode will be stable. Most channels, projects and users are now migrating to Libera. Libera is a registered non-profit organization with mitigations against this disaster happening ever again. Leaked chats showing disgusting intents and former devs that have worked with Mr.Lee before says that he's disorganized, dishonest and that they wish to never
2021-05-20 18:37:52	ComCat	work with him again (he managed to scam freenode out of our hands and he lied to the staffers). All officiall freenode channels are now currently under complete censorship. https://distfiles.dereferenced.org/stuff/nirvana-log.txt  - https://paste.sr.ht/~ircwright/7e751d2162e4eb27cba25f6f8893c1f38930f7c4 - Please update your topic to point to the new server if you haven't done so already. This message is to inform the users about the situation if the
2021-05-20 18:37:57	ComCat	topic is set already. Spread this message too.
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2021-05-20 18:40:00	xD_	spam
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2021-05-20 18:55:37	ComCat	xD_: information
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2021-05-20 18:56:58	xD_	tldr
2021-05-20 18:57:25	xD_	and no one cares
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2021-05-20 18:57:34	xD_	as long channels are up
2021-05-20 18:57:46	xD_	if servers goin down ppl will move
2021-05-20 18:58:05	Peng	Lots of folks have left and channels have moved
2021-05-20 18:58:10	xD_	irc drama
2021-05-20 18:58:14	Peng	Or are moving
2021-05-20 18:58:15	xD_	anyone can host ircd
2021-05-20 18:58:23	xD_	only 1/10
2021-05-20 18:59:01	xD_	and what is this sponsor doin?
2021-05-20 18:59:03	xD_	posting ads?
2021-05-20 18:59:08	xD_	then ppl will leave
2021-05-20 18:59:08	xD_	:P
2021-05-20 19:00:42	xD_	i am the classic guy with botnets
2021-05-20 19:00:45	xD_	dont even need services
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2021-05-20 19:01:23	jast	we're aware of the situation, as the topic already says
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2021-05-20 19:04:46	xD_	ComCat: similar drama happened with mircx -> rizon
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2021-05-20 19:04:51	xD_	but more ddos
2021-05-20 19:04:55	xD_	to help ppl movin
2021-05-20 19:05:25	xD_	so pls ddos freenode :)
2021-05-20 19:05:57	xD_	do somethin useful and convince ppl
2021-05-20 19:07:09	xD_	sweden got good uplinks :)
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2021-05-20 19:13:56	xD_	ComCat: lol and all libera servers are at hetzner ...
2021-05-20 19:14:01	xD_	no diff network
2021-05-20 19:15:33	ComCat	xD_: some server sponsors immediately jumped over to libera, yes.
2021-05-20 19:16:17	xD_	so no stable DCs?
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2021-05-20 19:17:34	xD_	with more ups and diesel :)
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2021-05-20 19:19:14	xD_	atm it is 99.9% guaranteed very bad
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2021-05-20 20:00:27	Jackneill	hey
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2021-05-20 20:01:07	Jackneill	why does a patch -p1 file < mypatch generate failed hunks when i just git diff file > mypatch ?
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2021-05-20 20:05:38	BtbN	Because you're trying to apply a patch that's already applied probably
2021-05-20 20:07:13	Jackneill	thats not the case
2021-05-20 20:07:46	BtbN	If you just did git diff, and then try to apply it, it'll try to apply what's already changed.
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2021-05-20 20:20:51	Jackneill	BtbN, when i apply it its on a fresh file, not the changed one
2021-05-20 20:20:56	Jackneill	thats why its strange
2021-05-20 20:21:30	BtbN	Have you checked the file is actually in the state you expect?
2021-05-20 20:21:37	BtbN	If it's too different, patch can't figure it out
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2021-05-20 20:23:41	dmc	til `git rebase --autostash`
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2021-05-20 21:19:35	novelcoronavirus	I'm sorry but what is the command to pull all the new branches (and everything) from an upstream repo.
2021-05-20 21:19:56	novelcoronavirus	I keep git pull-ing and fetch-ing and still I don't get the new stuff.
2021-05-20 21:20:25	novelcoronavirus	Honestly, I don't even knoe exactly the difference between git and fetch, but I want to.
2021-05-20 21:21:25	novelcoronavirus	Help me please
2021-05-20 21:22:09	deltab	do you have anything under remote.<repository>.fetch in config?
2021-05-20 21:22:37	rewt	git pull == git fetch + git merge ... no need to pull and fetch
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2021-05-20 21:23:08	novelcoronavirus	remote.origin.fetch=+refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
2021-05-20 21:23:43	deltab	I think that should fetch all the branch heads then
2021-05-20 21:23:50	novelcoronavirus	rewt, ah, ok that's helpful. So fetch might be useful if I want to do my own mergesZ
2021-05-20 21:23:57	rewt	yep
2021-05-20 21:24:37	rewt	how do you know you're not getting the new stuff?
2021-05-20 21:24:49	novelcoronavirus	I'm going to test that.
2021-05-20 21:25:15	novelcoronavirus	I'm going to look at the branches in this very old repo, git pull, and then check again.
2021-05-20 21:25:28	rewt	check the origin/* branches, not the local ones
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2021-05-20 21:26:21	novelcoronavirus	ok, so I see some there. Now I'm going to pull
2021-05-20 21:26:33	rewt	fetch should be enough
2021-05-20 21:26:49	rewt	that should also tell you which branches get updated
2021-05-20 21:26:56	deltab	add -v
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2021-05-20 21:27:30	novelcoronavirus	I already ran it :/
2021-05-20 21:27:43	mackerman	fetch and merge first.
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2021-05-20 21:27:59	mackerman	Once you understand those, then use pull as a shortcut.
2021-05-20 21:28:52	novelcoronavirus	Ok, I'll do that.
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2021-05-20 22:30:34	blue_penquin	Looks like Git maintainers contactd libera https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqwnrtt84s.fsf@gitster.g/
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2021-05-20 22:33:26	sybariten	so i just added commited and pushed (to bitbucket) a file change that was a bit erroneous
2021-05-20 22:33:49	sybariten	i can fix it and make a new add commit and push , but whats the clean way to fix this?
2021-05-20 22:35:54	mackerman	sybariten: That is the clean way, commit a change, possibly via git revert
2021-05-20 22:36:28	mackerman	Does not modify history.
2021-05-20 22:36:44	sybariten	i'm reading about git log, and then git revert and a hash number?
2021-05-20 22:40:20	rawtaz	i think having those standups in #git or similar channel on librea would be a great idea!
2021-05-20 22:40:51	rawtaz	i think it's very pointless of them to do the "register as a project" thing though, thers simply no use in that. just register it.
2021-05-20 22:41:34	sybariten	Hmmm okay so now i got a git revert message in the log .....  i thought i could just "pull back time" and forget my erroneus commit ever happened but maybe that is not considerd good standard
2021-05-20 22:41:36	sybariten	oh well
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2021-05-21 02:18:16	cbreak	but if your history is used by other people, that can lead to chaos
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2021-05-21 05:34:15	basenode	guys what's the best way of of using branches? Say i want to work on my "authentication" system. I create a branch "setup-auth" and integrate the appropriate packages, but i don't create any login/sign up buttons in my navbar. I commit the changes and merge into master. Then a few days later i decide i want to create the auth ui (login/signup buttons). Should I have deleted the first branch after
2021-05-21 05:34:17	basenode	merging it and then create a new one for this auth ui code, or should i merge the first branch, leave it, and then when i want to work on this new feature, do `git checkout setup-auth; git merge master;` and continue working on this branch, and then once its done, merge it to master again
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2021-05-21 05:38:36	igemnace	basenode: that's a subjective question, so there wouldn't be one "best" way. my take on this is that it all depends on who you're working with
2021-05-21 05:38:49	basenode	igemnace: for working alone
2021-05-21 05:39:25	igemnace	that said, there are some practices with well-known benefits. you might want to look into git flow. it somehow corresponds to the former of your two options (but with more nuance)
2021-05-21 05:40:01	basenode	igemnace: i'll check it out, thanks. I currently do the former approach, but i was just wondering if there's a "better way"
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2021-05-21 05:41:47	igemnace	for working alone, it'll depend on what you deem important. as an example, for my personal coding projects i prefer a well-organized git log, so i follow git flow. on the other hand, for my config repos i prefer simplicity to set up, so i simply commit everything to master
2021-05-21 05:44:32	mobidrop	I only need 1 command: git commit -a --amend --no-edit
2021-05-21 05:45:59	osse	actually that one requires either git init or git clone first
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2021-05-21 06:04:10	archer121	We have a big repo that we ca't afford to split (lot of deployment / dev workflows / CI etc will break). We want to give access to some external contractors, but want to keep a few folders out of their view. Is there a good solution to this? From what i understand, submodules will be almost as if it's different repos. Can we make changes to
2021-05-21 06:04:10	archer121	multiple modules and raise a single PR from the parent repo?
2021-05-21 06:07:16	@ikke	No, submodules are not suited for that
2021-05-21 06:08:27	igemnace	will they be making changes? some subtree commands are useful to split off folders into a brand new repo you can give them. some work is needed though if you want to regularly receive updates from the new repo
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2021-05-21 06:10:31	archer121	Yes, both internal devs and external devs would make changes. ikke why do you say that? Looks like my time would be better spend exploring git subtree
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2021-05-21 06:12:32	@ikke	archer121: it is for separating out parts, but not for atomically working on all parts as a whole
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2021-05-21 10:44:45	Celelibi	How do I find the root commit reachable from a given branch?
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2021-05-21 10:45:10	osse	git rev-list --max-parents=0 branch
2021-05-21 10:46:07	Celelibi	Hm... I didn't know about rev-list, thanks.
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2021-05-21 10:49:37	Celelibi	Oooookaayyy... As I suspected, my predecessor didn't clone the main repository, he copied the code at "some stage" and made his commits on top of that.
2021-05-21 10:49:45	Celelibi	I guess I'm in for a hell of a rebase.
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2021-05-21 10:55:01	Celelibi	Is there some git magic to help me identify what commit was copied? For instance: 1) finding what commits reference a given tree object (assuming both trees are identical) or 2) finding the commit reachable from origin/master that has the least changes w.r.t some given commit.
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2021-05-21 10:56:01	osse	No provided magic, but git has the tools to script your own magic
2021-05-21 10:56:28	osse	1) git log (and rev-list...) can print the tree hash of each commit, so you can search for it
2021-05-21 10:56:49	osse	2) loop over commits, do git diff --num-stat and collect data  I guess
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2021-05-21 10:59:33	zebrag	Best practice way to permalink to a file? With plain git, but similarly to: https://docs.github.com/en/github/managing-files-in-a-repository/managing-files-on-github/getting-permanent-links-to-files
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2021-05-21 11:00:02	osse	there is no such thing with plain git
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2021-05-21 11:05:23	zebrag	Well there is `git hash-object`.
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2021-05-21 11:08:32	osse	true
2021-05-21 11:08:54	osse	maybe you need to define permalink
2021-05-21 11:09:05	zebrag	https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Internals-Git-Objects # so interesting
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2021-05-21 11:10:30	zebrag	Yes, because with only git hash-object it is doing only half of the job
2021-05-21 11:10:57	zebrag	I need to add at least `git hash-object -w`
2021-05-21 11:11:09	zebrag	to actually create an object
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2021-05-21 11:12:05	zebrag	Then, iiuc, that object will be dangling, and can be deleted with can't remember what operation.
2021-05-21 11:12:29	zebrag	But for an actually commited file, that could do.
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2021-05-21 11:13:41	zebrag	(unreachable)
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2021-05-21 11:15:02	zebrag	(https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-dangling-commit-happen-in-GIT)
2021-05-21 11:15:22	zebrag	I was not clear with the dangling bit
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2021-05-21 11:22:06	osse	are you simply looking for  git show hash:path/to/file  ?
2021-05-21 11:22:16	osse	that'll dump any version of any file for you
2021-05-21 11:24:22	zebrag	Maybe. Looking into it.
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2021-05-21 11:25:21	zebrag	For now, something is puzzling me: `echo 'test content' | git hash-object -w --stdin`
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2021-05-21 11:44:12	cbreak	what's puzzling with that?
2021-05-21 11:45:02	sybariten	cbreak: thanks for the tip (issue from last night) . No its not used by other people but i'll ust leave it now for sake of ease  :)
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2021-05-21 11:48:06	cbreak	neat :)
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2021-05-21 11:55:17	zebrag	I was afw. Well, there is an object, but it's not associated with a place in a directory. I suppose I can't `git add` it without providing a location?
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2021-05-21 11:56:49	cbreak	you wouldn't use this with git add
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2021-05-21 11:57:32	cbreak	you'd git hash-object all your blobs, then you'd git hash-object some trees, then a commit object, and then you make a ref point at that commit object's hash
2021-05-21 11:57:39	cbreak	naturally, no sane person would do that manually
2021-05-21 11:58:16	cbreak	so instead, you'd stage files with git add, then commit them with git commit
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2021-05-21 12:00:20	cbreak	a slightly more low level process is by manipulating the index, then using git write-tree to create a tree object (with associated blobs), then committing this with git commit-tree
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2021-05-21 12:08:32	zebrag	okay. Still processing that.
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2021-05-21 12:12:05	cbreak	(the index can be manipulated by using git add, or git update-index, possibly even with --cacheinfo)
2021-05-21 12:12:15	zebrag	I'm not sure https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Internals-Git-Objects is as fine-grained as your "first line" above.
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2021-05-21 13:42:44	caveman	hi.  can i use private keys without files?  like just pipe it?
2021-05-21 13:43:02	@ikke	ssh expects files
2021-05-21 13:43:15	@ikke	ssh keys are not meant to be interactive
2021-05-21 13:43:31	caveman	bad.
2021-05-21 13:44:10	caveman	passmanager caveman | git push --key=-
2021-05-21 13:44:13	caveman	^ would be neat if doable.
2021-05-21 13:44:34	@ikke	git defers to ssh
2021-05-21 13:44:44	@ikke	so you need to convince ssh to take a key from stdin
2021-05-21 13:44:48	caveman	including username/password?
2021-05-21 13:44:49	bremner	the ssh-agent protocol exists
2021-05-21 13:44:52	@ikke	yes
2021-05-21 13:45:11	caveman	nice.  linus torvalds is good at shifting blame to others.
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2021-05-21 13:45:45	@ikke	yes, because why use something else, if you can just reinvent the wheel, right?
2021-05-21 13:45:53	caveman	yes.  occam's razor.
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2021-05-21 13:46:27	caveman	i guess i can use named pipes to fool ssh that it's reading a file?
2021-05-21 13:46:31	caveman	(off-topic, i know)
2021-05-21 13:48:33	Fissure	don't need named pipes, just process redirection: cat <(echo whatever)
2021-05-21 13:49:44	Fissure	or get your password manager to export a fuse filesystem
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2021-05-21 13:52:32	caveman	Fissure: even when using git with private keys?
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2021-05-21 13:58:11	Fissure	set GIT_SSH or the config key to a shell script that does what you want
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2021-05-21 14:09:17	xvx	I know I can transfer projects from Gitlab to Github, but will it show my commits in my Github profile?
2021-05-21 14:10:17	@ikke	I would expect it to, as long as the commits have an address that's known to github
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2021-05-21 15:51:15	renatosilva	hi, we are working on restructuring repository for better use of git, including training etc
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2021-05-21 15:52:37	renatosilva	one team member is kind of excited and wants to adopt that gitflow thing straight away
2021-05-21 15:53:11	renatosilva	however she isn't even used to branching/merging/rebasing yet
2021-05-21 15:53:13	nedbat	renatosilva: what exactly do you mean by "that gitflow thing"?
2021-05-21 15:53:19	@ikke	!gitflow
2021-05-21 15:53:19	@gitinfo	The description of the gitflow branch workflow model is at http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ while a tool to help implement this workflow is at https://github.com/petervanderdoes/gitflow  See http://sethrobertson.github.com/GitBestPractices/#workflow for other workflow suggestions/references
2021-05-21 15:53:39	@ikke	renatosilva: It depends greatly on your project workflow
2021-05-21 15:53:57	nedbat	renatosilva: do notice the "note of reflection" at the top of https://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
2021-05-21 15:54:02	@ikke	How many versions do you maintain, how do you do releases
2021-05-21 15:54:16	nedbat	renatosilva: how can we help?
2021-05-21 15:54:18	@ikke	how quickly do you do releases
2021-05-21 15:56:10	renatosilva	...I checked the gitflow page and the guy sanely adverts right off the bat that his intention was not to establish a bind dogma
2021-05-21 15:56:20	@ikke	correct
2021-05-21 15:56:35	@ikke	You should adopt a workflow to your needs
2021-05-21 15:56:53	renatosilva	question: help me convince the team we don't need this overkill workflow :-/
2021-05-21 15:56:58	@ikke	It's just a demonstration of how a certain workflow could work
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2021-05-21 15:57:11	@ikke	renatosilva: well, tell me how you develop / release your software
2021-05-21 15:57:20	@ikke	s/me/us
2021-05-21 15:57:43	renatosilva	(ad hominem is welcome)
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2021-05-21 16:00:43	renatosilva	It depends greatly on your project workflow --> this is what I need to convince them, cause she's like this is standard practice we need it (she also added and argued for a *giant* .gitignore created automatically vs. a one-liner that is *enough*)
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2021-05-21 16:02:09	renatosilva	do notice the "note of reflection" --> indeed I was thinking exactly like that while the idea was presented to the team
2021-05-21 16:02:17	nedbat	renatosilva: let her win on the .gitignore, it won't hurt you  :)
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2021-05-21 16:02:51	renatosilva	How many versions do you maintain, how do you do releases --> internal webapp, one installation
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2021-05-21 16:03:16	nedbat	renatosilva: then you should be fine with devs working on branches that they merge into main
2021-05-21 16:03:24	@ikke	yeah
2021-05-21 16:03:34	@ikke	probably no need for elaborate release branches
2021-05-21 16:03:49	nedbat	renatosilva: the primary question is: how many different versions of the software need to exist at once?
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2021-05-21 16:05:02	renatosilva	nedbat: as for .gitignore it pisses me off, trying to predict things cause "nothing bad will happen".... the oneliner will also not hurt, and is clearer, better, saner and 100% problem-free vs. 99%
2021-05-21 16:05:28	kevr	There any way to take a specific number of lines from a commit and create a *new* commit with those changes instead?
2021-05-21 16:05:39	renatosilva	how many different versions of the software need to exist at once --> web app, only one... so no sense in all those release/ branches
2021-05-21 16:05:44	kevr	but, leave the untouched lines in the original
2021-05-21 16:05:47	nedbat	renatosilva: right, ok.
2021-05-21 16:06:00	nedbat	renatosilva: you should definitely use a simpler branching strategy
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2021-05-21 16:09:48	renatosilva	then you should be fine with devs working on branches that they merge into main / probably no need for elaborate release branches --> agree
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2021-05-21 16:11:11	kevr	you can create release branches by creating tags at specific points in your project; there is no need to manually create your own releases branch for that.
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2021-05-21 16:12:19	kevr	and they're particularly useful, so that you have actual release versions at different points. Say, if your most recent release has a disgusting bug, swap back to your previous release(s)
2021-05-21 16:12:32	nedbat	renatosilva: i work at a large website (edx.org). we have ~120 devs.  We use developer branches merged into master, deployed daily (or more)
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2021-05-21 16:13:27	renatosilva	my idea is two permanent branches, one for development and another that represents the version running in production environment, and manage version with tags not branches
2021-05-21 16:13:42	renatosilva	(and the production branch doesn't even need to exist till a hotfix/backport is needed)
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2021-05-21 16:14:23	kevr	you're basically talking about what nedbat does. a lot of dev companies do this.
2021-05-21 16:14:37	kevr	a "master," a "devel," and tags for actual release points
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2021-05-21 16:14:52	nedbat	kevr: we don't have devel.  what is it for?
2021-05-21 16:14:59	kevr	where developers request pulls on devel, and a maintainer decides when to tag and merge.
2021-05-21 16:15:27	nedbat	our devs make pull requests into master. When they merge it, it will go to production.
2021-05-21 16:15:29	kevr	ah, it's basically just an unmerged, so mostly for like, tons of bugfixes etc, but they have a periodic time where they sync the fixes into master, etc
2021-05-21 16:16:15	kevr	so, the devs just work on branches based off of devel, and the maintainer of master decides when to merge or cherry-pick things needed in production
2021-05-21 16:16:26	kevr	for example, for backports.
2021-05-21 16:16:53	nedbat	ok, that's more complicated than what we do
2021-05-21 16:18:43	renatosilva	kevr: thanks, good to know this basic model is commonly used, that helps me to argue
2021-05-21 16:19:11	nedbat	renatosilva: kevr's model has more branches than the one you suggested
2021-05-21 16:20:26	kevr	renatosilva: not to say that it's commonly used; that's just one way, and it seemed to work well for them
2021-05-21 16:20:38	kevr	however, i would partly blame devops for that being useful.
2021-05-21 16:21:11	kevr	because they would just introduce things into the CI or other parts of the testing suites that would completely break shit, and they'd have to patch little things up, but they don't want them in master
2021-05-21 16:21:17	kevr	just unorganized, really.
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2021-05-21 16:24:28	renatosilva	nedbat: one more branch I think, still much simpler than gitflow
2021-05-21 16:24:48	kevr	basically a bunch of commits to fix things that didn't have commits for them, because devops manually changed them on servers
2021-05-21 16:24:52	nedbat	renatosilva: yes, definitely.  I wasn't saying either number was the right number, just wanted to make sure you saw the difference.
2021-05-21 16:25:31	renatosilva	I think we don't even need this stable vs devel model since we are small team...we don't need a stabilization phase I think
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2021-05-21 16:26:31	renatosilva	so, for now, I think we need only one branch at the moment, which is the devel focus (with temporary branching for working in features/fixes of course)...
2021-05-21 16:26:50	nedbat	renatosilva: master/main is also a branch
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2021-05-21 16:27:13	nedbat	renatosilva: how will devel differ from master?
2021-05-21 16:27:50	renatosilva	...and then once the application is released we tag it, and *if* we need to make a hotfix or backport, we then create and maintain a release/production branch
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2021-05-21 16:29:29	renatosilva	nedbat: by devel focus I mean master/main/develop/whatever... a one single branch whatever the name
2021-05-21 16:29:36	nedbat	renatosilva: i see
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2021-05-21 16:31:50	renatosilva	but I have a question about branch naming too: what's the practice about master/main? I mean, I can name the two branches like master and release (where master is development focus) or develop and master (where master holds the production version)
2021-05-21 16:33:14	osse	the stuff that's in production is just *one commit* right? At least one at a time.
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2021-05-21 16:34:20	osse	so you can have a branch named release whose tip is that commit, but if so then that will never change until you upgrade what's in production
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2021-05-21 16:34:50	renatosilva	I like master/release more (master is not stable)... but she seems to have internalized some dogma like "master should *never* be changed" from youtubers or whatever...
2021-05-21 16:35:32	osse	but when is release ever updated?
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2021-05-21 16:35:54	renatosilva	osse: when needed
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2021-05-21 16:36:14	osse	but no separate development goes on there right?
2021-05-21 16:36:34	osse	all it times is lag behind master
2021-05-21 16:36:41	osse	*all it does
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2021-05-21 16:37:09	renatosilva	osse: not sure if I got the one commit thing but...once the application is ready for release, probably we'll send what's in the tip of the single branch to production....and then we tag it so we can track what's delivered...and we continue on the same branch...
2021-05-21 16:37:29	osse	that sounds perfect in my ears
2021-05-21 16:37:32	phogg	renatosilva: for the small team I'm on we put everything in master, but only by merging. Releases happen by tagging master, then branching from the same point for bug fixes (as needed) while master continues toward the next release.
2021-05-21 16:37:43	osse	but then there is no need for a distiction between master and release anymore
2021-05-21 16:37:58	kevr	Yeah, please make sure your devs don't just directly push to master.
2021-05-21 16:38:07	kevr	they should be developing on branches _based_ on whatever branch you want them to target
2021-05-21 16:38:13	renatosilva	osse: ...and only if we ever need to backport something from development to the running app, or if we need to hotfix something, only then we create the release branch so we can keep track of the two versions
2021-05-21 16:38:17	kevr	Then you can run tests and ci to ensure what it does before merging.
2021-05-21 16:39:06	osse	renatosilva: Yes
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2021-05-21 16:40:08	osse	A branch whose *only* purpose is to be what is in production at the moment is superfluous.
2021-05-21 16:40:38	renatosilva	phogg: agree, now I need to remove that "master should never change" dogma from her mind... you know, youtubers :-/
2021-05-21 16:40:48	phogg	osse: Not at all, that's the branch you merge to when fixing production bugs ahead of a full release.
2021-05-21 16:41:08	phogg	renatosilva: What's the point of a branch that never changes? A branch that never changes is called a tag.
2021-05-21 16:41:10	kevr	yeah, it's not superfluous at all.
2021-05-21 16:41:15	osse	phogg: then it has a different purpose
2021-05-21 16:41:21	osse	phogg: it is the main line of development
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2021-05-21 16:41:40	kevr	the claims your making are opinions that are not particularly true for all scenarios.
2021-05-21 16:41:52	phogg	osse: No, the main line of development is master. The "what is on production" branch gets selective patches also merged to it after they land on master.
2021-05-21 16:42:23	renatosilva	they should be developing on branches _based_ --> indeed.. what I'm considering is the branch naming like master/release vs. develop/master (I prefer the former but I foresee she disliking it cause "master should neeeeeeever change")
2021-05-21 16:42:30	osse	ok we have different assumptions here
2021-05-21 16:42:42	osse	what you describe sounds good to me, but was not what I was trying to say
2021-05-21 16:43:09	kevr	renatosilva: what do you mean by master changing?
2021-05-21 16:43:22	phogg	it's all a bit fuzzy since "stabilizing for release" generally looks like "run the test suite on the tip of master"
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2021-05-21 16:43:29	kevr	renatosilva: what that particularly means is that, master should NOT be rewritten. That does not mean that commits cannot be merged/picked into master.
2021-05-21 16:43:38	kevr	it should never be forced pushed
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2021-05-21 16:43:39	renatosilva	A branch whose *only* purpose is to be what is in production at the moment is superfluous --> indeed
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2021-05-21 16:44:02	phogg	kevr: never rebased either
2021-05-21 16:44:04	bonhoeffer	ugh, added a directory i shouldn't have. added to .gitignore how do i remove it from git (not pushed yet)
2021-05-21 16:44:10	kevr	phogg: hence, not be rewritten.
2021-05-21 16:44:23	phogg	kevr: ah, you said. Sorry.
2021-05-21 16:44:27	kevr	(:
2021-05-21 16:44:45	bonhoeffer	git reset my_bad_directory/ ?
2021-05-21 16:45:19	phogg	bonhoeffer: it's staged but not committed?
2021-05-21 16:45:30	bonhoeffer	committed
2021-05-21 16:46:00	phogg	you should remove the commit, then, or edit it and remove the portion that added that dir (if you did other things in the same commit)
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2021-05-21 16:46:34	bonhoeffer	thanks
2021-05-21 16:46:36	phogg	if you have not pushed yet there is no need to worry about preserving history
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2021-05-21 16:49:01	renatosilva	what do you mean by master changing? --> she's internalized the idea that the branch named master should always be stable, where it's just a name
2021-05-21 16:49:45	renatosilva	I have the impression that both approached are used: master as stable branch and as development focus, after all it's just naming
2021-05-21 16:50:27	renatosilva	master should NOT be rewritten --> good point
2021-05-21 16:50:35	osse	in git's own case, as an example, case master is the most stable branch. work ready to be put into the next release is on master
2021-05-21 16:50:44	osse	at some point the tip of master is tagged.
2021-05-21 16:51:13	osse	and in principle, even one second later more work can be ready for the next release, so they go on master
2021-05-21 16:51:32	kevr	renatosilva: what you're kinda missing here is that the branches that are requesting to be pulled to master are not master
2021-05-21 16:51:43	kevr	they're their own branches trying to get into master, which you can then look at and critique.
2021-05-21 16:52:10	kevr	so, no, development should not be done in master. they should be done in branches based off of whatever makes sense to you; in this case, sounds like master.
2021-05-21 16:52:35	phogg	renatosilva: there are several different ways of managing branches. They all work, but some people prefer one way over others, and they don't always work equally well for all projects.
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2021-05-21 16:54:11	kevr	phogg: thanks for the reminder; of course, ren, this is all of my own opinion and is just something i'm used to.
2021-05-21 16:54:27	kevr	there is no hard law; it's your git repository. :)
2021-05-21 16:54:29	kevr	you own it.
2021-05-21 16:54:44	phogg	I have my opinions on what is good and virtuous, same as anybody. Doesn't mean I'm always right, just always opinionated.
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2021-05-21 16:56:12	renatosilva	in this case, sounds like master --> indeed by development I don't mean master to be a feature/fix branch, but the target where they get merged onto
2021-05-21 16:56:20	phogg	In practice master will probably always be stable, because you don't tend to merge pull requests that break the build (and they don't tend to get submitted either). Whether or not your project tolerates experimental changes that work but may not be wholly finished landing in master is a project policy question, not a git question.
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2021-05-21 16:57:56	renatosilva	there are several different ways of managing branches... --> good takeaway
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2021-05-21 16:58:11	kevr	very nice!
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2021-05-21 16:58:19	@ikke	renatosilva: and one thing to take into mind:
2021-05-21 16:58:20	renatosilva	there is no mandatory dogma, decide for yourself
2021-05-21 16:58:27	@ikke	it's not static either
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2021-05-21 16:58:32	renatosilva	what fits best for your needs
2021-05-21 16:58:38	@ikke	when circumstances change, you can adopt your workflow
2021-05-21 16:58:38	kevr	indubitably
2021-05-21 16:59:12	@ikke	so it's not that you need to choose one and are stuck with it
2021-05-21 16:59:35	phogg	ikke++ when it's not working for you, improve your process
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2021-05-21 17:01:58	renatosilva	ikke: indeed
2021-05-21 17:02:04	osse	that's why i changed from vim to emacs
2021-05-21 17:02:07	 *	osse ducks
2021-05-21 17:02:11	@ikke	:D
2021-05-21 17:02:17	@ikke	I use both :D
2021-05-21 17:02:27	mefistofeles	I use neither
2021-05-21 17:02:29	mefistofeles	:P
2021-05-21 17:02:39	mefistofeles	nah lies, I actually use vim
2021-05-21 17:02:39	@ikke	(to be fair, I use emacs with vim keybindings)
2021-05-21 17:02:44	renatosilva	now guys please tell me you are very important people, *that's* what will make the win the argument
2021-05-21 17:03:04	@ikke	I have made patch to git
2021-05-21 17:03:07	@ikke	is that important enough?
2021-05-21 17:03:09	osse	hmm
2021-05-21 17:03:12	renatosilva	haha good
2021-05-21 17:03:14	osse	i am a blood donor
2021-05-21 17:03:21	osse	oh yeah, a couple of git patches
2021-05-21 17:04:11	mefistofeles	I'm no one and I'm proud of it
2021-05-21 17:04:41	osse	a man has no contribution to git
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2021-05-21 17:06:09	phogg	renatosilva: appeal to authority? Not the greatest of arguments.
2021-05-21 17:06:26	phogg	I am some buffoon on the internet. On IRC, so my reliability is doubly questionable.
2021-05-21 17:07:15	@ikke	phogg: some people totally appeal to 'authority'
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2021-05-21 17:11:11	renatosilva	hehe
2021-05-21 17:12:38	renatosilva	well, thanks all for the help, I will try arguments and if that doesn't work I will come with "I talked to very important people" lol
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2021-05-21 17:37:17	Hello71	!book
2021-05-21 17:37:17	@gitinfo	There are several good books available about git; 'Pro Git' is probably the best: http://git-scm.com/book but also look at !bottomup !cs !gcs !designers !gitt !vcbe and !parable
2021-05-21 17:40:18	renatosilva	gtg thanks all!
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2021-05-21 18:13:02	dka	Hello
2021-05-21 18:13:07	dka	If I force push on a branch
2021-05-21 18:13:17	dka	I think I have overwrite some commit
2021-05-21 18:13:26	dka	I wwas cherry picking and I did git push -f
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2021-05-21 18:18:00	Timvde	dka: do you also have a question?
2021-05-21 18:18:44	Timvde	If I may guess: you can use `git reflog origin/branch` to find the previous commit the branch pointed at
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2021-05-22 07:18:50	Hash	mefistofeles | I'm no one and I'm proud of it  <--- I'm sorry
2021-05-22 07:18:58	Hash	I don't mean to be uhmm... party pooper
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2021-05-22 07:19:17	Hash	Or a nitpicker... but uhm... I'm gonna have to pick a nit.
2021-05-22 07:19:29	Hash	That's just bloody asinine.
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2021-05-22 07:19:55	Hash	The "I" says it's a nobody and it's "proud" of it. And it's not like you said this in a jocular manner
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2021-05-22 07:19:58	Hash	You were trying to be humble.
2021-05-22 07:20:12	Hash	But that's not humble...that's literallyt he most egotistical thing you can say.
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2021-05-22 07:20:29	Hash	"I"... is "Self"... Ego is Latin for "I".
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2021-05-22 07:20:59	Hash	Anyway. That was a good bit of Western mindful/philosophical wannabe stupidity and it was very amusing. Thankyou.
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2021-05-22 08:30:33	osse	I think, therefore I am a nobody
2021-05-22 08:31:03	osse	is it really that egotistical? Is it more egotistical than "I wish everyone in the world starved except me" ?
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2021-05-22 08:41:02	apo	Hash: Clearly there's no way that somebody who's nitpicking on stupid details would use 'literally' to mean 'figuratively' :)
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2021-05-22 10:38:54	--	Mode #git [+v pawel98] by gitinfo
2021-05-22 10:39:27	+pawel98	Hi, how is the state of the codebase at the time of a specific commit called? Is it commit too?
2021-05-22 10:39:28	+pawel98	I want to make a sentece like this: The build is done once for ..... <- Commit could fit but is it technically right
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2021-05-22 10:57:36	osse	pawel98: Yes it is right
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2021-05-22 10:59:01	osse	Not only is that wording common git speak. It is also technically correct (the best kind of correct, as you know) because a commit describes a complete snapshot, not merely a patch.
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2021-05-22 11:10:28	+pawel98	Thanks guys!
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2021-05-22 13:27:46	Hash	apo: I didn't mean figuratiely. i meant literally. He literally said that!
2021-05-22 13:28:08	Hash	hence the whole breakdown of the Latin.
2021-05-22 13:28:14	Hash	:D
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2021-05-22 13:29:37	Hash	osse: sure. Anythign to do with the I is ego, because as we established, I in Latin is Ego. Ego is Latin for self. Mind, self, soul, spirit, consciousness, person, individual, I, self, ego, thought... whatever word you want to call it.
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2021-05-22 13:31:44	Hash	And it's not like I'm condeming the ego. Ego is not to be condemned, like in western psychology. Ego is all of this. Ego is the entire Universe. One cannot exist without the 'ego'. Ego again, is the whole of conscousness/thought/cognition. etc etc. Ego death == clinical death.
2021-05-22 13:32:50	Hash	Furthermore, if ego is real, then nature evolved it for a purpose. Then it is logical to be as egotistical as possible. If the 'self' actually exists, then by all means, be as selfish as naturally possible. But what if the mnd/self/ego/I/ etc are all illusions? Then what are we doing?
2021-05-22 13:33:05	Hash	Also, this is #git. Hmm.
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2021-05-22 13:33:49	@ikke	good observation
2021-05-22 13:34:15	mefistofeles	heh
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2021-05-22 13:34:39	Hash	\o/
2021-05-22 13:34:47	Hash	Have a nice day! :D
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2021-05-22 13:41:11	apo	Hash: None of your Latin blubbering justifies the statement ``Saying "I'm no one and I'm proud of it" is literally the most egotistical thing you can say.''
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2021-05-22 13:54:00	jast	you guys totally got me, I went back and read all of what lead up to this... discussion
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2021-05-22 13:54:05	jast	way to read too much into a joke :)
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2021-05-22 14:27:18	biryukov	Hi. At work we support 5 latest releases of a rather big codebase. Having 5-6 clones per person is a bit heavy on disk. So, we are using worktrees instead.
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2021-05-22 14:28:54	jast	switching back and forth isn't an option?
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2021-05-22 14:29:41	biryukov	Unfortunately not. Switching takes minutes. Building takes hours.
2021-05-22 14:29:53	tango_	big fan of worktrees myself
2021-05-22 14:30:02	@ikke	never had a usecase for it
2021-05-22 14:30:33	tango_	pretty sure that several dev branches in parallel when switching is too costly is the main usecase
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2021-05-22 14:30:58	tango_	I routinely have three or four and even thoughthe sitch isn't as catastrophic as biryukov's time-wise, it's still a big difference
2021-05-22 14:30:58	@ikke	I've never had to work with repos where switching is too costly :)
2021-05-22 14:31:17	biryukov	So, a worktree is dedicated to work on a single release. But since branches are per clone, people now and then make a mistake and checkout a different release.
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2021-05-22 14:33:52	biryukov	Currently I'm investigating how to prevent that mistake. An option is having multiple clones. One - mirror. And then clones referencing it.
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2021-05-22 14:34:32	biryukov	Then you can limit what's fetched in each clone.
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2021-05-22 14:35:32	biryukov	For me it looks very similar to worktrees.
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2021-05-22 14:36:41	biryukov	And if you manage to fetch mirror before fetching from reference, you are pretty good with disk space.
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2021-05-22 14:39:13	biryukov	That just requires to make clones in a specific way.
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2021-05-22 14:43:05	biryukov	Do you see any other ways to have a worktree specific to certain refspecs/branches
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2021-05-22 14:46:05	biryukov	Say you start a feature from main branch in main worktree. And by accident checkout main in you release worktree. Then you are done with the feature and can’t go back to main branch in main worktree because it’s already checked out in another worktree.
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2021-05-22 14:47:17	rawtaz	you can rebase or cherry pick and stuff
2021-05-22 14:47:34	rawtaz	ah i misread, never mind
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2021-05-22 14:57:14	+kallisti5	suprised y'all didn't move over to oftc with everyone else... this is my last freenode channel I need lol
2021-05-22 14:57:42	+kallisti5	anyone seen a tag in a bare repo before that shows up... but can't be deleted?
2021-05-22 14:58:01	+kallisti5	commit 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 (HEAD -> master, tag: hrev55103, tag: hrev55102, refs/changes/37/3937/2)
2021-05-22 14:58:07	@ikke	we're kind of waiting for things to be arranged
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2021-05-22 14:58:24	rawtaz	i never been on the oftc, i simply dont see why one would move there when librea is the obvious and natural replacement for the old freenode. basically, it is the real freenode
2021-05-22 14:58:32	+kallisti5	git tag -d hrev55103 ; error: tag 'hrev55103' not found.
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2021-05-22 14:58:38	@ikke	https://lore.kernel.org/git/02ab01d74e7d$acd5cbd0$06816370$@nexbridge.com/T/#m14c0e4707397e4f6e1b6ecbdf7904dfd402d60e5
2021-05-22 14:58:48	rawtaz	so why on earth would this channel move to oftc instead of continue with the same staff and family it's been with last few years?
2021-05-22 14:59:04	+kallisti5	rawtaz: oftc is like Switzerland
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2021-05-22 14:59:19	archer121	I want to double check before I make my subtree public: From the subtree repo, someone will not be able to do some magic and get code outside the folder from which I created the subtree, right?
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2021-05-22 15:00:06	rawtaz	kallisti5: would you mind elaborating a bit? i know they have more formal regulation or perhaps governance is a better word. i havent seen much value in that, at least not enough to make me move there when all other channels im in are on librea
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2021-05-22 15:00:37	+kallisti5	rawtaz: oftc has been around almost as long as freenode.. and is run by a not-for-profit
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2021-05-22 15:01:58	rawtaz	kallisti5: yes. but moving to oftc is like all of a sudden thinking "hey, let's no longer be on freenode, we should move to an entierly different irc network", instead of staying where we are. it just change name and servers, librea is still the same thing as freenode was until just a few days ago. so thats the natural place to continue being. moving to oftc should be driven by other reasons than the freenode takeover, thats why i dont get the oftc approac
2021-05-22 15:02:09	rawtaz	librea is equally non-profit, so..
2021-05-22 15:02:27	+kallisti5	oftc is a good path to just sidestep the drama
2021-05-22 15:02:59	rawtaz	huh?
2021-05-22 15:03:35	rawtaz	the only place there's drama is on the old freenode skeleton. but on librea it's nice and calm in the channels where i am, most if not all moved already
2021-05-22 15:04:00	+kallisti5	rawtaz: really not going to get in a debate honestly.. I mananged a major project moving over to oftc from freenode a day or two ago. It was the right choice
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2021-05-22 15:04:08	rawtaz	in other words, what problem would be solved by changing from the real freenode who just continues under another name and other servers, to ofctc? :)
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2021-05-22 15:04:12	rawtaz	err oftc
2021-05-22 15:04:37	rawtaz	kallisti5: im not trying to argue with you, im just trying to hear some actual concrete reasons for all of a sudden changing to a completely different network
2021-05-22 15:05:06	@ikke	for all intents and purposes, both networks are different
2021-05-22 15:05:25	rawtaz	right. but why was that? i mean, why was it IYO the right choice to go there instead of continuing to be on the real freenode (librea)? just trying to understand your reasoning. that "oftc is like switzerland" isnt very concrete :D
2021-05-22 15:05:25	@ikke	though, feature wise, libera is more similar to freenode
2021-05-22 15:05:45	@ikke	but otherwise, it require users to register themselves, channels need to be registered
2021-05-22 15:06:00	rawtaz	ikke: i think a huge part is who runs it, and librea is run by the same people who nicely ran freenode. i mean, what else is a network besides its users and the staff. the servers are just technicalities :)
2021-05-22 15:06:13	+kallisti5	rawtaz: there's already a huge number of bots spamming freenode and librea as fanboi script kiddies attack each other
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2021-05-22 15:06:45	rawtaz	kallisti5: at least on freenode, i honestly havent seen much spamming on librea
2021-05-22 15:06:46	+kallisti5	a move to oftc is sidestepping a lot of that... librea is also new, stood up in a hurry.  It needs time to stablize
2021-05-22 15:07:04	rawtaz	any spambots is a very short term problem, just ignore it i'd say
2021-05-22 15:07:10	rawtaz	like any other troll really
2021-05-22 15:07:15	rawtaz	hmm
2021-05-22 15:07:20	tango_	I don't get the joke in the topic, btw
2021-05-22 15:07:23	rawtaz	i think its stable alright. but ok
2021-05-22 15:08:09	rawtaz	honestly if you think librea isnt stable, isnt that a rather premature opinion given that it's been working great since we joined there? its not down or anything
2021-05-22 15:08:32	rawtaz	either way i guess there will be a git channel on both networks, given the amount of users :)
2021-05-22 15:08:47	tango_	kallisti5: oftc hasn't been immune to the spamming, fwiw
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2021-05-22 15:08:51	tango_	also it's libera, not librea
2021-05-22 15:09:07	rawtaz	ah, yes!
2021-05-22 15:09:16	rawtaz	sorry, sorry. i keep miswriting that all the time. i suck at it :(
2021-05-22 15:09:17	tango_	and #xorg-devel and #dri-devel have moved to oftc instead of libera, for example
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2021-05-22 15:09:35	rawtaz	yeah. and <a long list of channels> moved to librea
2021-05-22 15:09:59	rawtaz	also who tf cares about xorg and whatever dri is :-)
2021-05-22 15:10:10	@ikke	Just pick something and stick with it
2021-05-22 15:10:34	jast	my connection to libera gets interrupted a lot and TLS handshake fails often. I suspect they're getting... "negatively reinforced" by someone right now
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2021-05-22 15:10:57	+kallisti5	rawtaz: a long list have moved to oftc as well
2021-05-22 15:11:37	tango_	hoping for less drama
2021-05-22 15:11:40	+kallisti5	rawtaz: dri-devel/freedesktop/intel-drm/haiku/alpine linux
2021-05-22 15:11:59	+kallisti5	tango_: that was our thought
2021-05-22 15:12:17	+kallisti5	anyway... use whatever irc server you want.. who am I to tell you what to do lol
2021-05-22 15:12:35	@ikke	luckily irc clients are perfectly capable of connecting to multiple networks
2021-05-22 15:12:43	jast	magical!
2021-05-22 15:12:44	+kallisti5	rawtaz: also.. i can never remember libre vs librea
2021-05-22 15:12:47	rawtaz	kallisti5: its funny how it seems to depend on what channels you are in. i mean you said earlier this was oyur last channel on freenode, while for me at this point i cant think of more than one single channel i was in, and i was in a lot just like everyone else, that moved to oftc. it would be this one when it's moved and done, and #maddy.
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2021-05-22 15:12:56	rawtaz	kallisti5: it's quite a bad name in that respect lol
2021-05-22 15:12:58	tango_	I even took advantage of the drama to move from irssi to weechat
2021-05-22 15:13:03	tango_	I'm ready for 2078
2021-05-22 15:13:23	tango_	libera means free in italian
2021-05-22 15:13:24	@ikke	rawtaz: the problem is that we do not really own the git namespace
2021-05-22 15:13:30	@ikke	so we cannot do anything ourselves
2021-05-22 15:13:37	tango_	28
2021-05-22 15:13:38	rawtaz	ikke: yeah, but i cant be arsed to register on yet another network. my loss obviously. i'll stick to #git on librea :)
2021-05-22 15:13:49	jast	yeah, we're "official" only in the sense that there's a like to this channel somewhere on the website and stuff
2021-05-22 15:13:53	jast	*link
2021-05-22 15:13:55	@ikke	rawtaz: it's less then 1 minute of work
2021-05-22 15:14:29	rawtaz	ikke: yeah but its just like when you go to some website to do something and you find that you have to register. its just not fin having to create an accoutn in ever single fscking place :/
2021-05-22 15:14:55	biryukov	Would it be in line with git vision to choose what refs are shared with worktree?
2021-05-22 15:15:01	jast	well this channel has (almost) always been usable without registering
2021-05-22 15:15:15	jast	we're going to keep that no matter what happens
2021-05-22 15:15:16	rawtaz	so when i have 99% of all my irc presence on librea, obviously thats where i want to stick, and not having fiddle with another shitty network because reasons that well, hardly make sense. the channel would function perfectly well on librea too
2021-05-22 15:15:27	@ikke	at some points we had to set +R
2021-05-22 15:15:32	@ikke	due to all the spam
2021-05-22 15:15:40	jast	sure, I recall, but most of the time we didn't need to
2021-05-22 15:15:47	rawtaz	hm i feel i might be disrupting biryukov's git discussion, so ill digress
2021-05-22 15:15:51	@ikke	and neither on oftc, nor on libera, you have to register
2021-05-22 15:15:55	@ikke	yeah
2021-05-22 15:16:05	rawtaz	ikke: no but obiously wou will if you are going to be there, so keep your nick :3
2021-05-22 15:16:11	jast	biryukov: so basically you're thinking refs aren't "visible" in all worktrees?
2021-05-22 15:16:20	jast	that sounds a little tricky
2021-05-22 15:16:56	tango_	I wonder if it would be easy to hack git completion so that you can restrict autocompletion to specific namespces
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2021-05-22 15:17:08	tango_	would that help biryukov ?
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2021-05-22 15:18:02	+kallisti5	anyway... back on topic lol.   I have a bare git repo.  It has a tag listed in log.  I try to delete the tag, and git says it doesn't exist
2021-05-22 15:18:04	jast	too bad there's no pre-checkout hook, right
2021-05-22 15:18:16	biryukov	Then I'd see less branches in a worktree?
2021-05-22 15:18:28	jast	kallisti5: where and how is it listed?
2021-05-22 15:18:40	+kallisti5	jast: commit 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 (HEAD -> master, tag: hrev55103, tag: hrev55102, refs/changes/37/3937/2)
2021-05-22 15:19:00	+kallisti5	doesn't show up in tag | grep though :-|
2021-05-22 15:19:40	jast	and 'git tag -d' doesn't find it either?
2021-05-22 15:19:56	+kallisti5	correct.  just says error: tag 'hrev55103' not found.
2021-05-22 15:20:06	+kallisti5	trying a git gc at the moment to see if that helps
2021-05-22 15:20:20	jast	hmm, does anything show up with e.g. "git show-ref | grep hrev55103"?
2021-05-22 15:20:38	jast	gc doesn't delete refs
2021-05-22 15:20:45	+kallisti5	00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 refs/tags/hrev55103
2021-05-22 15:20:53	+kallisti5	shows up there... and in logs
2021-05-22 15:20:57	jast	okay, so it does exist
2021-05-22 15:21:06	+kallisti5	even though git tag says it doesn't lol
2021-05-22 15:21:20	+kallisti5	background: I added hrev55103 via a script.
2021-05-22 15:21:22	jast	does 'git rev-parse 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379' show an error?
2021-05-22 15:21:23	+kallisti5	deleted it
2021-05-22 15:21:31	+kallisti5	then re-added when I ran the script again
2021-05-22 15:21:43	+kallisti5	jast: that command shows 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379
2021-05-22 15:21:44	jast	wait, no, it couldn't
2021-05-22 15:21:49	jast	hmm
2021-05-22 15:21:56	+kallisti5	can you delete a ref directly?
2021-05-22 15:22:17	@ikke	git update-ref -d refs/...
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2021-05-22 15:22:47	jast	I wonder what 'git tag' dislikes about it, though
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2021-05-22 15:23:17	+kallisti5	ikke: lol... didn't work
2021-05-22 15:23:20	+kallisti5	it's still there
2021-05-22 15:23:27	+kallisti5	(no error on run)
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2021-05-22 15:23:36	@ikke	what did you execute?
2021-05-22 15:23:43	+kallisti5	git update-ref -d refs/tags/hrev55103
2021-05-22 15:23:59	+kallisti5	echo $? shows 0
2021-05-22 15:24:15	jast	so, the 'tag' builtin runs read_ref on the tag and when that fails, it outputs the "not found" error
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2021-05-22 15:24:56	@ikke	kallisti5: what about git show-ref hrev55103
2021-05-22 15:24:57	jast	hmm, I'm wondering now if the tag name has trailing whitespace
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2021-05-22 15:25:02	@ikke	yeah, me too
2021-05-22 15:25:02	tango_	time to run a git fsck?
2021-05-22 15:25:10	+kallisti5	tango_: already did lol
2021-05-22 15:25:14	tango_	oh whitespace
2021-05-22 15:25:16	jast	git show-ref | grep hrev55103 | xxd
2021-05-22 15:25:17	tango_	good idea
2021-05-22 15:25:23	jast	that should show any funny business
2021-05-22 15:25:30	tango_	or try tab-completing it
2021-05-22 15:26:02	+kallisti5	https://pastebin.com/aa0dsp1x
2021-05-22 15:26:10	@ikke	git for-each-ref --format="'%(refname)'" refs/tags
2021-05-22 15:26:15	jast	hmm, that looks fine
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2021-05-22 15:26:50	+kallisti5	maybe create a new tag with same name... and delete?
2021-05-22 15:27:03	jast	worth a try, if only to see what happens
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2021-05-22 15:27:19	+kallisti5	commit 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 (HEAD -> master, tag: hrev55103, tag: hrev55103, tag: hrev55102, refs/changes/37/3937/2)
2021-05-22 15:27:22	+kallisti5	lol.. wut
2021-05-22 15:27:42	+kallisti5	commit 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 (HEAD -> master, tag: hrev55103, tag: hrev55102, refs/changes/37/3937/2)
2021-05-22 15:27:50	+kallisti5	well.. i can create and delete the new one
2021-05-22 15:27:56	tango_	fascinating
2021-05-22 15:28:13	tango_	oh wait
2021-05-22 15:28:16	jast	does your repo have a .git/refs/tags/hrev55103 file?
2021-05-22 15:28:32	tango_	yeah I was thinking about that. maybe some disk issue
2021-05-22 15:28:39	+kallisti5	it's a bare repo
2021-05-22 15:28:47	jast	without the .git/ then :)
2021-05-22 15:28:52	+kallisti5	refs/tags is empty
2021-05-22 15:28:55	jast	all right
2021-05-22 15:29:13	@ikke	packed refs
2021-05-22 15:29:14	jast	can you pastebin the "packed-refs" file?
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2021-05-22 15:29:58	+kallisti5	sure.. one sec
2021-05-22 15:30:00	jast	good job creating this mystery btw :P
2021-05-22 15:30:16	tango_	and is packed-refsalso ls -lha packed-refs to check for permissions
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2021-05-22 15:30:27	tango_	although if you could create them it probably is no issue
2021-05-22 15:30:32	jast	yeah
2021-05-22 15:30:42	jast	however creating tags uses ref files
2021-05-22 15:30:46	tango_	unless it creates it in refs/tags
2021-05-22 15:30:48	tango_	yeah
2021-05-22 15:31:20	+kallisti5	by the way... we might be abusing git
2021-05-22 15:31:27	+kallisti5	packed-refs is 4MiB
2021-05-22 15:31:36	+kallisti5	do you want a subset? :-D
2021-05-22 15:31:46	tango_	wtf
2021-05-22 15:31:51	jast	what I want is to be far away from this madness :>
2021-05-22 15:31:52	tango_	kallisti5: let's start with the permissions
2021-05-22 15:32:02	+kallisti5	jast: lol.   We tag every commit
2021-05-22 15:32:07	+kallisti5	well.. push
2021-05-22 15:32:14	+kallisti5	all 20 years worth
2021-05-22 15:32:19	jast	... okay, can we get a new internet please
2021-05-22 15:32:26	tango_	lol
2021-05-22 15:32:33	tango_	one without kallisti5 if possible ;-)
2021-05-22 15:32:56	tango_	kallisti5: joking aside, what are the permissions on packed-refs
2021-05-22 15:33:09	tango_	and maybe grep -C10 hrev55103 packed-refs
2021-05-22 15:34:11	+kallisti5	tango_: permissions ok.   https://pastebin.com/6wKKxpxR
2021-05-22 15:35:04	tango_	hm no lines after?
2021-05-22 15:35:15	+kallisti5	nope
2021-05-22 15:35:20	jast	uhh, what's that line starting with ^
2021-05-22 15:35:24	jast	is that a normal thing in packed-refs?
2021-05-22 15:35:25	tango_	and what's with the ^?
2021-05-22 15:35:49	@ikke	yea
2021-05-22 15:35:49	tango_	ah it's for proper tags
2021-05-22 15:35:51	@ikke	^a6d45c67d7a9d401a6a810af8bfcf07989b6eb2b
2021-05-22 15:36:17	+kallisti5	yeah.. we have two of those in the packed-refs file
2021-05-22 15:36:22	tango_	me too
2021-05-22 15:36:40	tango_	OK what happens if you just purge that last line?
2021-05-22 15:36:52	jast	I mean that should get rid of the tag
2021-05-22 15:36:56	jast	but then we still don't know what's wrong :)
2021-05-22 15:37:03	tango_	missing EOL?
2021-05-22 15:37:10	jast	see the blank line at the end?
2021-05-22 15:37:18	tango_	oooh
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2021-05-22 15:37:29	tango_	well it could be a paste error
2021-05-22 15:37:33	+kallisti5	paste error
2021-05-22 15:37:43	+kallisti5	https://pastebin.com/gSaDpVK5
2021-05-22 15:37:47	tango_	kallisti5: tail -n3 packed-refs | xxd
2021-05-22 15:37:57	jast	but yeah, most shells output something weird if the final EOL is missingh
2021-05-22 15:38:05	jast	either the prompt runs into the last line or you get some kind of marker
2021-05-22 15:38:12	+kallisti5	https://pastebin.com/9Vzeytv8
2021-05-22 15:38:27	tango_	all seems fine
2021-05-22 15:38:41	tango_	I'm really curious if it might be related to the 4MiB size
2021-05-22 15:38:52	+kallisti5	keep in mind context as well... created hrev55103.  deleted hrev55103 (fine). created hrev55103. won't delete
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2021-05-22 15:39:15	tango_	kallisti5: can you make a hardcopy of the repo to play with?
2021-05-22 15:39:15	jast	I don't see how 4MB would make a difference
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2021-05-22 15:39:39	tango_	jast: me either, but I'm out of idea, maybe there's some silly bug in git
2021-05-22 15:39:43	+kallisti5	sure. one sec
2021-05-22 15:40:00	+kallisti5	using git version 2.26.3
2021-05-22 15:41:20	+kallisti5	WAIT
2021-05-22 15:41:21	+kallisti5	the shit
2021-05-22 15:41:34	 *	tango_ drumrolls
2021-05-22 15:41:36	+kallisti5	I was running that within the container.   exited to host os and it deleted ok
2021-05-22 15:41:49	tango_	so disk access issues
2021-05-22 15:42:00	jast	did the script run from the host, too?
2021-05-22 15:42:11	+kallisti5	no. just within the container
2021-05-22 15:42:15	jast	weird
2021-05-22 15:42:16	+kallisti5	host os:   git version 1.8.3.1
2021-05-22 15:42:26	+kallisti5	no selinux, permissions boring as possible
2021-05-22 15:42:27	tango_	ooooh
2021-05-22 15:42:30	tango_	BISECT TIME
2021-05-22 15:42:49	tango_	test all git versions between 1.8.3.1 and 2.26.3 to find which one has problems
2021-05-22 15:43:04	+kallisti5	i mean.. the tag is gone now lol
2021-05-22 15:43:15	+kallisti5	guess I could re-add it for science
2021-05-22 15:43:19	tango_	damn I told you to make a hardcopy 8-D
2021-05-22 15:43:30	+kallisti5	lol.. let me try to reproduce.. sec
2021-05-22 15:43:49	jast	does the first line of "packed-refs" contain the word "sorted"?
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2021-05-22 15:44:42	+kallisti5	jast: no..  0e475f3e695efaa267d7030f9f005d131e1bbd77 refs/cache-automerge/02/c906e64c1465e595479f04eae4120611bf51bb
2021-05-22 15:44:58	jast	oh, that might be because you used git 1.8 on it now
2021-05-22 15:45:10	jast	we might not be able to track down the issue
2021-05-22 15:45:13	+kallisti5	../../hooks/receive-notify.pl 8516b308f8b989c31ca925e8f13df2f66d44234e 00ba3fd01b0ca1324cbebe84655031e9fcc0f379 refs/heads/master
2021-05-22 15:45:16	+kallisti5	prey for me
2021-05-22 15:45:23	+kallisti5	*pray actually
2021-05-22 15:45:31	jast	basically newer gits can have some flags in packed-refs that allow it to access the contents more efficiently
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2021-05-22 15:45:49	jast	and your tag was not in proper sort order in the file
2021-05-22 15:45:55	+kallisti5	Deleted tag 'hrev55103' (was 00ba3fd01b)
2021-05-22 15:45:59	+kallisti5	wump wump
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2021-05-22 15:46:09	jast	so if the file was marked "sorted" but the tag was not inserted in the correct place, that would prevent git from finding it
2021-05-22 15:46:50	+kallisti5	reproduced!
2021-05-22 15:47:15	+kallisti5	key is adding: success, deleting: success, adding: success, deleting: fail
2021-05-22 15:47:29	+kallisti5	wonder if it happens with any bare repo :thinking
2021-05-22 15:47:41	jast	and that's your script, run with the same version of git each time?
2021-05-22 15:47:50	+kallisti5	yes
2021-05-22 15:47:55	+kallisti5	same version, same permissions, etc
2021-05-22 15:47:56	jast	the script uses 'git tag' both to add and to delete?
2021-05-22 15:48:13	+kallisti5	err.. it's a long one. one sec
2021-05-22 15:48:32	+kallisti5	actually.. i can link to the script
2021-05-22 15:50:00	+kallisti5	ooh
2021-05-22 15:50:02	+kallisti5	eeh
2021-05-22 15:50:13	+kallisti5	https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/blob/master/data/gerrit/hooks/receive-notify.pl#L324
2021-05-22 15:50:17	jast	don't tell me it manually appends to packed-refs :P
2021-05-22 15:50:21	+kallisti5	yup lol
2021-05-22 15:50:28	jast	yeah, you can't do that anymore, sorry :)
2021-05-22 15:50:32	+kallisti5	huh
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2021-05-22 15:50:52	+kallisti5	sooooooooooooooo we have a long history of running this script
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2021-05-22 15:51:01	@ikke	oof
2021-05-22 15:51:13	@ikke	WHY :)
2021-05-22 15:51:19	tango_	damn it's a bug in the script?
2021-05-22 15:51:22	tango_	BORING
2021-05-22 15:51:32	jast	... and this is why you normally shouldn't directly access git internals, kids :P
2021-05-22 15:51:36	@ikke	nod
2021-05-22 15:51:40	+kallisti5	ikke: because I hate python, and this  thing is annoyingly intense
2021-05-22 15:51:43	+kallisti5	*perl
2021-05-22 15:51:44	@ikke	would be fun when switching to alternative ref backends
2021-05-22 15:51:56	@ikke	kallisti5: I mean, why directly writing to packaged-refs
2021-05-22 15:52:01	jast	there's work in progress for a new more condensed ref backend, I see
2021-05-22 15:52:13	+kallisti5	ikke: it's a hook script that has been around since like 2005
2021-05-22 15:52:27	+kallisti5	we received commits, then tag every commit
2021-05-22 15:52:33	jast	okay, just make it run a git command to create the tag
2021-05-22 15:52:48	+kallisti5	can you run git commands within a hook?
2021-05-22 15:52:52	@ikke	yes
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2021-05-22 15:53:08	+kallisti5	hm.  I blame the original authors
2021-05-22 15:53:11	+kallisti5	:-D
2021-05-22 15:53:19	jast	always a good choice :>
2021-05-22 15:53:22	+kallisti5	Thanks for the help.. yeah the script should be just using tag
2021-05-22 15:53:27	+kallisti5	as for cleanup
2021-05-22 15:53:31	+kallisti5	... anything I can do?
2021-05-22 15:53:53	tango_	it might actually make sense performance-wise if you're adding lots of tags at once
2021-05-22 15:54:03	jast	you mean for other people who are affected?
2021-05-22 15:54:12	tango_	append X lines to a file in one go is much faster than running git tag for each
2021-05-22 15:54:15	+kallisti5	all of our commiters who clien from this repo
2021-05-22 15:54:20	+kallisti5	*clone
2021-05-22 15:54:38	+kallisti5	ok.. let me ask this.  rewriting tags doesn't rewrite history... right?
2021-05-22 15:54:40	jast	cloning doesn't transmit the packed-refs file
2021-05-22 15:54:54	jast	so as long as the refs on the server are not broken, everyone will get them correctly
2021-05-22 15:54:54	+kallisti5	aka. i can monkey with this stuff and not get everyone out of sync
2021-05-22 15:55:00	+kallisti5	ok
2021-05-22 15:55:12	+kallisti5	we hand this stuff out via gerrit
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2021-05-22 15:55:51	jast	btw you can create multiple refs in one command
2021-05-22 15:55:59	jast	git update-ref --stdin
2021-05-22 15:56:03	tango_	oh
2021-05-22 15:56:12	tango_	good to know
2021-05-22 15:56:13	jast	and then you pass in lines like: create refs/tags/foo abc123 <LF>
2021-05-22 15:56:27	+kallisti5	jast: ooh. nice!   We're just tagging as they come in, in sequential order
2021-05-22 15:56:38	tango_	pretty sure it's still slower than just appending the lines to packed-refs, for sufficiently large number of refs
2021-05-22 15:56:40	jast	there's also instructions like "start" and "commit" to make it transactional (=faster hopefully)
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2021-05-22 15:56:47	tango_	but then you trade performance for safety
2021-05-22 15:57:04	tango_	jast: oh, that's new?
2021-05-22 15:57:11	+kallisti5	I think we want to move to a "commits since" model at some point.. this was all put in place when we moved from svn -> git mid 2000's
2021-05-22 15:57:15	jast	yeah, but if the packed-refs file is sorted, appending won't work, so... yeah :)
2021-05-22 15:57:17	@ikke	just store it in /dev/null, nothing's going to be faster :P
2021-05-22 15:57:28	+kallisti5	thanks for the help everyone!
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2021-05-22 15:58:57	tango_	ikke: 8-D
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2021-05-22 16:25:21	tango_	ikke: I'd link to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ocXFgowZA where they download a program to recover the data from /dev/null but it's in italian, sorry
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2021-05-22 16:28:49	@ikke	heh, they actually refer to debian :D
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2021-05-22 16:37:41	tango_	Yep
2021-05-22 16:38:02	tango_	"f*CK, a Debian"
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2021-05-22 16:38:24	tango_	Became quite a meme between Italian nerds
2021-05-22 16:38:33	@ikke	heh
2021-05-22 16:38:56	tango_	That video is so full of tech idiocy it has reached cult status
2021-05-22 16:39:23	tango_	Like the two people one keyboard thing from that US series
2021-05-22 16:39:48	@ikke	I got a bit of juressic park vibes
2021-05-22 16:39:55	@ikke	"I know this, this is unix"
2021-05-22 16:40:35	tango_	This was a bit of the opposite though
2021-05-22 16:41:02	tango_	Not like "oh no, I'm not particularly familiar with this"
2021-05-22 16:41:18	tango_	"aren't you the expert?"
2021-05-22 16:41:27	@ikke	heh
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2021-05-22 16:41:43	tango_	s/Not/More/
2021-05-22 16:41:59	tango_	Which is why at the end he calls for the other guy
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2021-05-22 16:42:04	@ikke	yea
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2021-05-22 16:42:21	tango_	Who downloads the program to recover stuff from /dev/null
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2021-05-22 16:43:06	tango_	Which is allegedly where stuff goes when it gets deleted
2021-05-22 16:43:20	@ikke	aha, they think it's the trashbin
2021-05-22 16:43:21	tango_	*sigh*
2021-05-22 16:43:33	tango_	But harder to recover from
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2021-05-22 16:44:20	tango_	ANYWAY
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2021-05-22 16:44:46	tango_	Off to bed now, cya
2021-05-22 16:45:00	@ikke	o/
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2021-05-22 16:53:03	biryukov	It would be ideal if I could specify remote fetch refspecs per worktree.
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2021-05-22 16:54:12	@ikke	then it would make more sense to just have separate repositories with a shared object store
2021-05-22 16:55:18	biryukov	So, clones referencing a local mirror isn’t such a bad idea?
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2021-05-22 16:56:32	@ikke	as long as that mirror is append only, no
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2021-05-22 16:58:16	biryukov	Initially I searched just for some pre-checkout hook. Hoping to somehow block checkout based on current and new branch name.
2021-05-22 17:00:00	biryukov	Is such hook not welcome in git?
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2021-05-22 17:01:08	@ikke	it's a very niche usecase
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2021-05-22 17:04:25	biryukov	Found a similar question (only) today: https://stackoverflow.com/q/45415520
2021-05-22 17:05:01	biryukov	Not much information on it otherwise
2021-05-22 17:06:13	biryukov	Well for the case with mirror clone + reference clones the pre-fetch is also needed.
2021-05-22 17:07:11	biryukov	Luckily I can add a script that runs before fetch in gitextensions (gui we went for at work).
2021-05-22 17:08:12	biryukov	That script runs fetch for each path in objects/info/alternates
2021-05-22 17:08:44	biryukov	But fetching from command line is then unsupported
2021-05-22 17:09:05	biryukov	Would require git wrapper
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2021-05-22 17:09:25	biryukov	Is it possible to redefine checkout using an alias in git?
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2021-05-22 17:12:46	biryukov	Well, checkout, fetch, anything)
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2021-05-22 17:13:57	biryukov	NVM. Aliases cannot shadow existing commands. https://stackoverflow.com/a/5917211
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2021-05-22 17:48:14	deepy	your shell might let you alias 'git checkout' though
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2021-05-22 18:53:02	Timvde	biryukov: what exactly do you want to achieve?
2021-05-22 18:53:18	Timvde	Like, not "block checkout", but the specific use case, the reason why you want to do it
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2021-05-22 19:21:47	biryukov	Timvde: It all boils down to working on a single release in a separate folder without being able to violate that.
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2021-05-23 02:04:58	biryukov	ikke: Thanks. The mirror should also have remote fetch refspec(s) to ensure it’s append only. Was missing that. Because if you base a branch in a reference-clone on a ref in the mirror and then that ref is removed from the mirror, then you lose that branch, too.
2021-05-23 02:06:08	biryukov	And w/o refspecs the mirror would accumulate garbage that can’t be pruned in a safe way.
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2021-05-23 02:13:03	biryukov	Currently I use clone --reference, remote remove, remote add -t v1, fetch to make a reference clone with limited remote fetch refspecs. Wonder if there a simpler way.
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2021-05-23 02:21:21	biryukov	And for mirror I use clone --mirror. Finally found what that does. It's a shorthand for clone --bare and remote add.
2021-05-23 02:22:40	@ikke	and also setting fetchspecs in a specific way
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2021-05-23 02:38:09	Timvde	biryukov: checking out a different branch seems like one of the less destructive ways to mess up a release tbh
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2021-05-23 02:49:25	biryukov	Timvde: checking out an old supported release branch changes a lot of files.
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2021-05-23 03:09:22	Timvde	biryukov: But you can just checkout back, and as long as you don't push anything to the origin repo, nothing really happened? Or is this on a production server?
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2021-05-23 03:15:20	biryukov	Timvde: Sure, you can checkout back. But you are already up for a long build.
2021-05-23 03:16:06	biryukov	And many find it confusing.
2021-05-23 03:16:38	biryukov	So we are looking how to make it more clear for them.
2021-05-23 03:16:44	Timvde	Well, make sure to also disable reset, rebase, switch and merge then :)
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2021-05-23 03:17:32	Timvde	I personally feel like the best way to not confuse people is to explain them how it works
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2021-05-23 03:23:12	biryukov	That’s true, but hard as we have a lot of occasional git users committing twice a year. By the time they get to git again they already forgot everything from last time. So, making them less likely to make a mistake would be great.
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2021-05-23 03:27:42	biryukov	Actually it’s a whole spectrum. Coming from svn, used to old workflows w/o feature branches...
2021-05-23 03:28:02	biryukov	Not taking time to learn.
2021-05-23 03:29:04	biryukov	Coming from three commands to a dozen) they want to be limited again
2021-05-23 03:29:13	tango_	biryukov: there's no technical solutions to social issues; -)
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2021-05-23 03:30:05	tango_	biryukov: if this is the kind of situation you have, maybe some wrapper scripts that do all the checks you need?
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2021-05-23 03:30:21	tango_	and then have them use the wrapper scripts instead of git directly
2021-05-23 03:30:56	biryukov	That would put a burden on people who know git)
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2021-05-23 03:31:48	biryukov	Trying not to invent git
2021-05-23 03:32:38	biryukov	But indeed. I bet some people would love me to do that.
2021-05-23 03:33:00	biryukov	While they better learn.
2021-05-23 03:34:20	biryukov	I'd need to make a whole gui git for them.
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2021-05-23 03:45:34	hrtk	Is there a way I can have `git log --graph` with only a set of tags and a commit. I want to find where this particular commit lies between many tags.
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2021-05-23 03:55:20	hrtk	`git log --tag="pattern"` did the trick
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2021-05-23 03:55:42	hrtk	Is there a way I can have git describe show me more than one tag that predates a commit ?
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2021-05-23 03:59:21	@ikke	no, git describe is meant to just give a single output
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2021-05-23 03:59:52	@ikke	git tag --merged <commit>
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2021-05-23 04:09:40	hrtk	ikke: Thanks!
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2021-05-23 04:10:57	hrtk	I was so much confused by a commit which happened chronologically *before* a tag but didn't appear in "git describe --match". Now that I see `git tag --merged`, I'm sure it was never there
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2021-05-23 04:11:40	hrtk	Got to learn today that it happened chronologically before doesn't mean it belongs to that tag's history.
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2021-05-23 04:13:51	hrtk	I'm wondering is there a way like `git describe` which shows the tag *chronologically before* the given commit ? It doesn't have to be parent-reachable by the commit. It just has to be in my working tree and before the given commit.
2021-05-23 04:14:50	hrtk	I was able to do that by looking at `git log --tags="glob" --oneline` but I was wondering if there's any better solution
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2021-05-23 04:19:08	@ikke	hrtk: do you perhaps want git describe --contains?
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2021-05-23 04:24:45	hrtk	ikke: contains gives me a tag that came *after* the given commit. I just want the reverse of it.
2021-05-23 04:25:21	@ikke	oh, I see
2021-05-23 04:25:32	hrtk	git tag --no-contains looks much better tbh
2021-05-23 04:25:50	@ikke	well, git describe should use tags that are reachable by the commit
2021-05-23 04:26:15	@ikke	The revision syntax implied reachability
2021-05-23 04:26:22	@ikke	implies*(
2021-05-23 04:26:28	hrtk	ikke: Exactly. The tag I'm trying to find isn't really reachable by the commit. It just happened to happen *chronologically before* the commit in the tree
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2021-05-23 04:26:54	@ikke	hrtk: can you give an example of the describe output?
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2021-05-23 04:31:55	cbreak	just list all the tags and throw those away that have a time after your cutoff?
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2021-05-23 04:33:03	cbreak	with --format, you should be able to spit out time stamps, and with | sort -n you should be able to sort those
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2021-05-23 04:34:40	hrtk	ikke: describe output ? I can show you `git log --all --oneline`. Here you can see e481fac7d80b came after next-20210514 but `git describe e481fac7d80b` gives v5.13-rc1-250-ge481fac7d80b. This is actually correct because from e481fac7d80b you cannot reach the next-20210514 tag.
2021-05-23 04:34:54	hrtk	git log --all --oneline : http://0x0.st/-eJw.txt
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2021-05-23 04:36:12	cbreak	hmm... it seems git tag has a --sort too
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2021-05-23 04:36:35	cbreak	so it can probably sort your tags too
2021-05-23 04:36:49	cbreak	by default I don't think they're sorted
2021-05-23 04:37:19	cbreak	hrtk: the output of git log isn't sorted either normally
2021-05-23 04:38:00	hrtk	cbreak: Isn't the output of git log sorted chronologically ?
2021-05-23 04:38:10	cbreak	it comes in topo order, with commits in branches being grouped somehow
2021-05-23 04:38:13	cbreak	hrtk: no
2021-05-23 04:38:25	hrtk	To put it more in context I can show `git log --all --oneline --decorate --graph next-20210514..` http://0x0.st/-eJY.txt
2021-05-23 04:38:30	cbreak	commits are always listed before their parents
2021-05-23 04:38:38	cbreak	even if they have an earlier timestamp
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2021-05-23 04:39:08	cbreak	(unless you tell it to --sort)
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2021-05-23 05:22:26	jjakob	is there a way to have files commited and checked out when the repo is first cloned or a branch checked out and they don't exist, but then ignore them even if the user changes them?
2021-05-23 05:22:49	cbreak	no
2021-05-23 05:22:55	cbreak	that makes no sense
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2021-05-23 05:23:27	cbreak	create the files in some other way (a script, or what ever), and tell git to ignore them via .gitignore or similar
2021-05-23 05:23:49	jjakob	well, the real use case is environment files, password files, anything that has a "default" but the user can change it
2021-05-23 05:24:20	@ikke	they should not be tracked
2021-05-23 05:24:20	jjakob	right, so some sample files that are copied to the right place via a command the user executes
2021-05-23 05:24:25	@ikke	indeed
2021-05-23 05:24:57	@ikke	In general, files that are expected to be edited in specific environments should not be tracked
2021-05-23 05:26:00	cbreak	jjakob: just make your build system create the defaults then
2021-05-23 05:26:16	cbreak	or ignore the non-existence of files, and assume default contents
2021-05-23 05:26:19	jjakob	yeah I already use Makefiles so I'll just add a target for it
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2021-05-23 08:34:49	zen_coder	I want to fork a repository from github, however I want to fork it to an own gitlab instance, not hosted public. I want to keep all branches from upstream and just create one new one in this fork repo. Are there any guides how to do this?
2021-05-23 08:34:53	zen_coder	some best practices?
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2021-05-23 08:35:25	@ikke	nothing in particular
2021-05-23 08:36:19	hrtk	zen_coder: Fork then change to private ?
2021-05-23 08:36:30	@ikke	hrtk: github -> gitlab
2021-05-23 08:36:51	zen_coder	I want ot keep the changes from upstream in sync with m y fork
2021-05-23 08:37:01	@ikke	zen_coder: I would use git clone --mirror from github, add the gitlab repo as a remote
2021-05-23 08:37:08	@ikke	and then push that to the gitlab instance
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2021-05-23 08:38:26	zen_coder	I should mirror it, altought I want to fork it?
2021-05-23 08:38:42	@ikke	zen_coder: forking is not a real git term
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2021-05-23 08:38:54	@ikke	You are just cloning the repository and pushing it somewhere else
2021-05-23 08:39:25	@ikke	You can only 'fork' a repository withing one hosting solution
2021-05-23 08:39:59	@ikke	If you have a paid gitlab version, you can keep a repository synchronized with an external repo
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2021-05-23 08:40:59	zen_coder	but I am not sure, whether I can setup own branches in a mirror?
2021-05-23 08:41:31	@ikke	I don't think it will remove branches
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2021-05-23 08:43:13	zen_coder	Is this then a fork or a mirror?
2021-05-23 08:43:48	@ikke	forget the term fork
2021-05-23 08:44:11	zen_coder	but what is it then?
2021-05-23 08:44:25	zen_coder	i would say it is a fork
2021-05-23 08:44:59	zen_coder	you can fork a project, like open office and libre office
2021-05-23 08:45:01	@ikke	It's a fork in the sense that you deviate from the main projec
2021-05-23 08:45:03	@ikke	yes
2021-05-23 08:45:08	@ikke	but it's not a technical term
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2021-05-23 08:45:42	@ikke	So your project is a fork
2021-05-23 08:45:57	 *	ikke blames github from overloading that term
2021-05-23 08:46:53	@ikke	zen_coder: to make the point clear
2021-05-23 08:47:02	@ikke	If I clone a repository, add a feature branch
2021-05-23 08:47:06	@ikke	is this a fork?
2021-05-23 08:47:18	@ikke	even though that feature is not part of upstream
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2021-05-23 08:47:41	@ikke	technically, there is no distinction
2021-05-23 08:47:54	@ikke	the distinction is purely in the intention
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2021-05-23 11:11:17	Celelibi	How do I find all the versionned .swp files?
2021-05-23 11:11:29	Celelibi	*.swp the temp files of vim.
2021-05-23 11:11:49	@ikke	git ls-files '*.swp' '**/*.swp'
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2021-05-23 11:13:04	Celelibi	Looks like *.swp is enough enven if the file is in a subdirectory.
2021-05-23 11:13:07	@ikke	ok
2021-05-23 11:13:22	@ikke	wasn't certain
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2021-05-23 11:14:12	mefistofeles	oh nice
2021-05-23 11:14:25	Celelibi	Interesting. It's the star that globs through slashes.
2021-05-23 11:14:44	Celelibi	'.*.swp' won't find tests/.blah.swp
2021-05-23 11:15:38	Celelibi	Anyway, thanks, now I'm sure there's just one.
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2021-05-23 15:40:34	cbreak	tango_: interesting. Porn is no longer disallowed.
2021-05-23 15:41:26	tango_	cbreak: I'm more worried about the potentially community-disruptive attitude towards migrating project
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2021-05-23 15:42:46	cbreak	hmm... yes... that is a problem. I wasn't implying that the lift of the porn ban was a problem.
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2021-05-23 15:43:14	cbreak	many other channels I'm in seem to have just "forked"
2021-05-23 15:43:21	cbreak	and now maintain a parallel existence on both networks
2021-05-23 15:43:58	cbreak	so they're not inactive over here. What ever that's worth, admins can take over all channels they want even without the TOS allowing it.
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2021-05-23 15:45:40	tango_	cbreak: technically, yes. legally ... not so much
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2021-05-23 16:13:28	velix	Might be offtopic: Is there some "state of the art" snippet to just get the latest (tagged) released?
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2021-05-23 16:15:05	rawtaz	velix: maybe  git tag --sort=<key>  could help?
2021-05-23 16:15:33	cbreak	or git describe?
2021-05-23 16:15:36	velix	rawtaz: Yeah, I'm playing with this already. Maybe it's better to use github's endpoint this time.
2021-05-23 16:15:53	velix	cbreak: okay. I hope it can be parsed sane :)
2021-05-23 16:16:34	cbreak	... it's probably not the best option...
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2021-05-23 16:19:05	cbreak	git tag --merged HEAD -n 1 maybe
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2021-05-23 16:21:08	cbreak	hm... I hoped tags would be listed in topo order, but that doesn't seem to be the case
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2021-05-23 16:25:08	osse	lexical I think is the default
2021-05-23 16:25:20	osse	they are probably looked up by ref instead of following the topo
2021-05-23 16:25:38	osse	i would guess topo sort is relatively expensive
2021-05-23 16:26:01	cbreak	yeah... why do people always want to use std::list instead of a proper container :/
2021-05-23 16:26:25	cbreak	ah well, it makes sense for a dag to be a bit expensive, but in this case it should be affordable :)
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2021-05-23 16:26:41	cbreak	(since I think he only needs the first)
2021-05-23 16:27:01	osse	you want a std::vector<commit> ? :P
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2021-05-23 16:27:53	cbreak	well...
2021-05-23 16:28:45	osse	the history is kinda like a linked list
2021-05-23 16:29:22	cbreak	well. It's a dag.
2021-05-23 16:29:30	cbreak	it has more reasons to exist than a silly list
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2021-05-23 16:29:51	osse	yeah but a dag is just a list with tentacles
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2021-05-23 16:31:18	cbreak	merging tentacles
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2021-05-23 16:32:18	osse	but the links go the other way
2021-05-23 16:32:24	osse	singly linked "list" back in time
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2021-05-23 16:32:35	cbreak	yes.
2021-05-23 16:32:45	cbreak	merging at common ancestors.
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2021-05-23 16:32:55	osse	ugh
2021-05-23 16:33:05	osse	for some reason I thought you were thinking of merge commits
2021-05-23 16:33:07	osse	yes I agree
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2021-05-23 17:03:17	Celelibi	lol. Looks like Andrew just authorized himself to take over channels who moved over to another network.
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2021-05-23 17:03:42	rawtaz	can you explain the "symptoms" of that? :)
2021-05-23 17:03:48	rawtaz	as in, what is he doing that shows this, so to speak
2021-05-23 17:04:09	Celelibi	Was reacting to this: <tango_> (wow things on freenode are getting better and better https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/commit/1194a3e71a427a669ccdddee22006416d46eeb43)
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2021-05-23 17:06:29	Celelibi	1) abandonned channels can be taken over. 2) unused "squatting" channels are deemed inappropriate.
2021-05-23 17:10:27	rawtaz	nice.
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2021-05-23 17:13:35	rawtaz	its quite interesting how some people (or more in particular, channel managers) are still "hmm lets give it some time and see how freenode progresses".
2021-05-23 17:13:44	rawtaz	as if theres anything more to see :>
2021-05-23 17:14:46	nedbat	rawtaz: i think the tide will definitely be turning
2021-05-23 17:15:03	nedbat	rawtaz: though libertarian brogrammers will probably feel right at home
2021-05-23 17:15:35	rawtaz	mm
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2021-05-23 21:33:21	quackquack	This should serve as one big fat warning! https://del.dog/olomopowyc.txt
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2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Freenode situation: https://git.io/JswRG -- We're monitoring it, no official move yet | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of reb"
2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Topic set by canton7 (~canton7@about/csharp/regular/canton7) on Wed, 19 May 2021 09:21:01
2021-05-24 18:38:23	--	Channel #git: 888 nicks (2 ops, 2 voices, 884 normals)
2021-05-24 18:38:33	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-05-24 18:41:44	wallbroken	how to undo all the changes from the last commit?
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2021-05-24 18:42:15	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Freenode situation: https://git.io/JswRG -- We're monitoring it, no official move yet | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.0 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is logged: https://gitirc.eu/log | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of reb"
2021-05-24 18:42:15	--	Topic set by canton7 (~canton7@about/csharp/regular/canton7) on Wed, 19 May 2021 09:21:01
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2021-05-24 18:54:16	Timvde	wallbroken: "undo" is a slightly vague term
2021-05-24 18:54:37	Timvde	If you want to revert the changes without changing existing history: git revert HEAD
2021-05-24 18:54:49	Timvde	If you want to unto creating the commit without losing the changes: git reset HEAD~
2021-05-24 18:54:51	Timvde	undo*
2021-05-24 18:55:07	Timvde	If you want to undo the commit and lose all changes that it made: git reset --hard HEAD~
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2021-05-24 19:03:23	Hello71	!undo
2021-05-24 19:03:23	@gitinfo	[!fixup] So you lost or broke something or need to otherwise find, fix, or delete commits? Look at https://sukima.github.io/GitFixUm/ for full instructions, or !fixup_hints for the tl;dr. Warning: changing old commits will require you to !rewrite published history!
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2021-05-24 19:03:53	Timvde	Ah, good to know that that exists :)
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2021-05-25 05:22:31	__that__	morning everybody
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2021-05-25 05:24:54	__that__	I have my local repos failing every so often to push and pull. Sometimes I have to pull or push 5 times before one gets through properly. Git fails with no error on the stdoutput at all. Could anyone please help me what I can do to debug this? I am using Windows 10 unfortunately
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2021-05-25 05:26:57	osse	__that__: do you push/pull over ssh or http(s) ?
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2021-05-25 05:32:14	__that__	osse, thanks. I do it over https
2021-05-25 05:32:42	__that__	I work in a corporate with a vpn and have a proxy in front of me. However my workmates do too and they don't have any problem at all
2021-05-25 05:33:09	__that__	All that I get from my IDE is Git process exited with code 1
2021-05-25 05:33:19	osse	__that__: you can try  GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 git push/pull to see if that gives any indication
2021-05-25 05:33:50	__that__	that sounds good
2021-05-25 05:33:55	__that__	thanks for that
2021-05-25 05:34:33	osse	there's also GIT_TRACE_CURL but i'm not completely sure how that works
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2021-05-25 05:44:15	__that__	osse, that sounds good. I just hit Murphy's law and when set the environmental variable on it worked! Need to wait for the next time round
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2021-05-25 05:44:44	osse	__that__: if I understood you correctly isn't that just a matter of running it again?
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2021-05-25 05:44:47	osse	press up and enter
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2021-05-25 07:46:40	drogas	I forgot the procedure... 🤔 I wanna pull from a branch A into my current branch B and merge
2021-05-25 07:46:51	drogas	I did `git pull origin A`
2021-05-25 07:46:56	drogas	but forgot what comes after
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2021-05-25 07:52:02	osse	drogas: nothing comes after
2021-05-25 07:53:47	drogas	I mean there is conflict, I accepted all incoming changes
2021-05-25 07:53:53	drogas	then there's command afterwards
2021-05-25 07:53:53	osse	oh
2021-05-25 07:54:03	osse	merge --continue
2021-05-25 07:54:14	osse	(doesn't git status say that?)
2021-05-25 07:54:27	osse	((maybe it says "commit", which will also do the job))
2021-05-25 07:54:51	osse	(((this way of writing "btw"-esque comments is nice. I'll use it more)))
2021-05-25 07:55:13	drogas	what's up with all the ((( ))))
2021-05-25 07:55:18	drogas	and yeah I think it was commit something
2021-05-25 07:55:23	drogas	but cannot remember correct
2021-05-25 07:55:37	osse	all merge --continue does is basically commit
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2021-05-25 07:55:48	osse	I think they are interchangeable
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2021-05-25 08:15:12	wallbroken	i stisll have problems on vs code with git
2021-05-25 08:17:49	wallbroken	https://www.dropbox.com/s/uy2v87cr1bzzjf8/untitledvdfd.png?dl=0
2021-05-25 08:17:53	wallbroken	what's the problem?
2021-05-25 08:18:02	wallbroken	yesterday i renamed a branch from vs code
2021-05-25 08:18:38	wallbroken	if i click on single-user branch git tells me that is already exists
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2021-05-25 08:22:36	osse	it does already exist
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2021-05-25 08:23:54	osse	you're trying to (or git thinks you're trying to) create a new branch
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2021-05-25 08:26:55	drogas	error: Committing is not possible because you have unmerged files.
2021-05-25 08:26:55	drogas	hint: Fix them up in the work tree, and then use 'git add/rm <file>'
2021-05-25 08:26:56	drogas	hint: as appropriate to mark resolution and make a commit.
2021-05-25 08:26:56	drogas	fatal: Exiting because of an unresolved conflict.
2021-05-25 08:27:09	drogas	so I get that when I do `git commit -m "fixed conflicts" `
2021-05-25 08:27:31	drogas	do I need to do `git add .` then `git commit -m "fixed conflict" ` ?
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2021-05-25 08:28:56	osse	you need to git add the files you fixed conflicts in
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2021-05-25 08:29:20	osse	'git add .' might accidentally add more stuff than that, if you have untracked files around
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2021-05-25 08:29:30	wallbroken	i'm not trying to add any new branch
2021-05-25 08:29:42	wallbroken	i'm just selecting it to use it
2021-05-25 08:29:42	osse	but if git status does not say "untracked files: my_notes.txt" or whatever then git add . is fine
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2021-05-25 08:30:16	bn_work	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zJ8sUStR/
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2021-05-25 08:33:12	osse	wallbroken: for whatever reason, vscode is executing 'git checkout -q --track origin/single-user'
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2021-05-25 08:33:37	wallbroken	osse: i just clicked on the top
2021-05-25 08:33:39	osse	wallbroken: depending on what you actually want it should be 'git checkout single-user' or 'git checkout origin/single-user'
2021-05-25 08:33:49	wallbroken	and also, i don't have more the "master" branch
2021-05-25 08:33:55	wallbroken	i  renamed it in "single-user"
2021-05-25 08:33:59	wallbroken	why i still see it?
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2021-05-25 08:34:15	drogas	I see thanks osse
2021-05-25 08:35:13	osse	wallbroken: you don't see master, but you do see origin/master. those are different things
2021-05-25 08:35:24	osse	a branch named master still exists in the remote repository
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2021-05-25 08:42:51	wallbroken	osse:  ok, and how to remove that branch from the remote repository?
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2021-05-25 08:43:26	ByteSlayer	wallbroken: it should be "git push origin --delete origin/master"
2021-05-25 08:43:41	ByteSlayer	wallbroken: it should be "git push origin --delete master" *
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2021-05-25 08:44:31	osse	yes
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2021-05-25 08:46:51	wallbroken	well, if i click on origin/multi-user, all goes fine
2021-05-25 08:47:10	wallbroken	if i click on origin/single-user, i have the error message that the remote branch already exists
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2021-05-25 08:48:29	osse	It complains that the local branch already exists
2021-05-25 08:48:34	osse	But anyway, I can't help with that.
2021-05-25 08:48:52	osse	Because I don't know how VSCode thinks
2021-05-25 08:49:32	wallbroken	osse: vs code uses git
2021-05-25 08:49:40	wallbroken	and git exposes the command line output
2021-05-25 08:50:06	osse	yes, and that's how I noticed the problem
2021-05-25 08:50:11	Timvde	osse: I usually use `git add -u` instead of `git add .` when resolving conflicts
2021-05-25 08:50:21	wallbroken	> git checkout -q --track origin/single-user
2021-05-25 08:50:22	wallbroken	fatal: A branch named 'single-user' already exists.
2021-05-25 08:50:27	osse	But now the problem is "how to make vscode generate the correct command line? and why is it different in the two cases?"
2021-05-25 08:50:35	osse	And I don't know that
2021-05-25 08:50:43	osse	All I know is the command it does generate is wrong
2021-05-25 08:50:54	ByteSlayer	wallbroken: can you run "git branch -a" from the terminal?
2021-05-25 08:51:05	Timvde	Can't you just checkout the branch correctly locally, and have VS Code notice the change?
2021-05-25 08:51:22	ByteSlayer	that would be a good solution as well
2021-05-25 08:51:24	Timvde	I'm pretty sure it tracks changes that happen outside it as well
2021-05-25 08:52:00	wallbroken	https://dpaste.org/hS8C
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2021-05-25 08:52:26	ByteSlayer	there you go, you have both the local branch and the remote branch still in your repo
2021-05-25 08:52:56	ByteSlayer	what is that you want to do now? are these the branches you want?
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2021-05-25 08:53:51	wallbroken	ByteSlayer: well, i think that with git i always need to work on the local copy, right?
2021-05-25 08:54:21	ByteSlayer	I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. You mean working with the local branch?
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2021-05-25 08:55:51	ByteSlayer	in general you have your own local branch that "tracks" the remote branch, so that when you are ready to push your work, your remote branch is updated.
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2021-05-25 08:56:03	wallbroken	yes
2021-05-25 08:56:10	wallbroken	so in my situation, is all fine, right?
2021-05-25 08:56:44	ByteSlayer	looks like yes from what I have seen. I would just like to point you to https://git-scm.com/book/it/v2/Git-Branching-Remote-Branches that explain more in details what happens with remote branches
2021-05-25 08:57:13	wallbroken	yes but wha if i select remote/single-branch it says that already exists?
2021-05-25 08:57:25	wallbroken	*single-user branch
2021-05-25 08:57:36	osse	does it do that for both?
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2021-05-25 08:58:43	wallbroken	osse: no
2021-05-25 08:58:46	wallbroken	https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2wqqug0qems8a2/reg.png?dl=0
2021-05-25 08:58:47	wallbroken	see here
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2021-05-25 08:59:00	wallbroken	the hashes are thifferent for single-user
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2021-05-25 08:59:45	osse	if clicking on origin/multi-user works fine, and the fact that the hashes are the same is the reason for why that works fine
2021-05-25 08:59:47	osse	...
2021-05-25 09:00:09	osse	well, then the vscode git extensions needs to be dragged out behind the barn and shot
2021-05-25 09:00:38	wallbroken	what can i do?
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2021-05-25 09:01:11	osse	click on the branch names without origin/ in front of them
2021-05-25 09:01:21	osse	report a bug to vscode
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2021-05-25 09:03:32	ByteSlayer	wallbroken: I don't know how comfortable you are with the command line, but if you are willing to put a bit of effort with the basic commands, I would suggest it's easier to use VScode as the editor and the terminal as your git client
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2021-05-25 09:10:42	wallbroken	is not possible to swich between branches without committing it before?
2021-05-25 09:12:16	osse	not if git has to overwrite files
2021-05-25 09:12:30	wallbroken	oh FUCK
2021-05-25 09:12:37	wallbroken	again it added master branch
2021-05-25 09:12:38	wallbroken	...................
2021-05-25 09:12:49	wallbroken	is not possible to work in this terrible way
2021-05-25 09:12:58	wallbroken	things must work, and must not be crap
2021-05-25 09:13:04	wallbroken	is very difficult to work in this way
2021-05-25 09:13:10	osse	if you have uncommitted changes to fileA but the only diffence between the branch your switching from and to is in fileB then git will let you switch branches
2021-05-25 09:13:18	osse	did you click on origin/master?
2021-05-25 09:13:24	wallbroken	no
2021-05-25 09:13:36	osse	what did you do then
2021-05-25 09:13:38	rawtaz	wallbroken: i understand it can be frustrating, but trust me - at some point, it will "click" and youll feel "thank gosh for having and knowing how to use git"
2021-05-25 09:13:56	wallbroken	git push origin --delete master
2021-05-25 09:14:22	wallbroken	rawtaz: things must work in a realible way
2021-05-25 09:14:36	wallbroken	things must help you assisting the development
2021-05-25 09:14:39	cbreak	good thing git is very reliable
2021-05-25 09:14:46	wallbroken	and not that you must assist git .
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2021-05-25 09:15:12	wallbroken	at work i use TFS, and it never fails
2021-05-25 09:15:13	wallbroken	never
2021-05-25 09:15:21	osse	there is no possible way that command created the master branch
2021-05-25 09:15:47	wallbroken	do i need to remove again the master branch from github website?
2021-05-25 09:16:24	rawtaz	wallbroken: git does work in a reliable way, it is darn sure able to keep your stuff consistent and relied upon. but if theres a discrepancy between how it's designed to be used and how it's used it's of course confusing etc :) again, youll figure out out and be able to gain lots of value from using it.
2021-05-25 09:16:52	wallbroken	https://github.com/ClaudioViti/lookbook/branches
2021-05-25 09:16:54	wallbroken	see here
2021-05-25 09:17:08	rawtaz	anyway, i digress. i just tried to give you some encouragement in the sense that lots of people are frustratd, but that in the end its *so* worth it. i wouldnt want to use anything else than git, although other things work too
2021-05-25 09:17:09	wallbroken	it continues in pushing on master branch
2021-05-25 09:17:23	wallbroken	the question is WHY?
2021-05-25 09:17:41	osse	tell us exactly what you did
2021-05-25 09:17:45	wallbroken	rawtaz: i need to work, and i can't make too much effort in dealing with how git would work
2021-05-25 09:17:49	osse	nothing in git happens automatically
2021-05-25 09:18:04	rawtaz	wallbroken: might be time to take a break.
2021-05-25 09:18:18	wallbroken	osse: i switched to single-user branch by clicking on it, then applied some line changes and then: commit + push
2021-05-25 09:18:30	wallbroken	and then master branch turns in again
2021-05-25 09:18:38	osse	show the output of git
2021-05-25 09:19:28	wallbroken	https://dpaste.org/HirR
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2021-05-25 09:21:08	osse	git push origin single-user:master
2021-05-25 09:21:18	osse	for some reason that command was run
2021-05-25 09:21:51	osse	run this command: git branch -u origin/single-user single-user
2021-05-25 09:21:57	osse	that will fix it
2021-05-25 09:22:11	wallbroken	only the second one?
2021-05-25 09:22:19	wallbroken	or also the first one?
2021-05-25 09:22:25	Timvde	The first one is the one that broke it
2021-05-25 09:22:32	osse	correct
2021-05-25 09:22:41	cbreak	wallbroken: you renamed the branches without fixing the upstream
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2021-05-25 09:22:50	osse	This might also explain why vscode acted badly when you clicked on origin/single-user earlier
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2021-05-25 09:23:03	cbreak	if you had done a git push -fu after history rewriting, as I told you a few days ago, you wouldn't have had that problem :)
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2021-05-25 09:23:28	wallbroken	i executed that command
2021-05-25 09:23:30	wallbroken	what else?
2021-05-25 09:23:41	osse	delete master again, for the last time
2021-05-25 09:23:45	 *	rawtaz appreciates everyones patience here, in a situation where there are frustraed parties and other aspects and factors involved. all very helpful
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2021-05-25 09:26:49	wallbroken	well, now looks all fine
2021-05-25 09:27:01	wallbroken	could you please make me understand what happened?
2021-05-25 09:27:12	wallbroken	it's not really a vs code bug?
2021-05-25 09:27:42	wallbroken	what my error was? renaming a branch?
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2021-05-25 09:27:57	osse	usually a branch "tracks" are remote branch, and usually that has the same name
2021-05-25 09:28:09	osse	example: "your branch foo is up to date with origin/foo"
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2021-05-25 09:29:04	osse	and your master tracked origiin/master. but then you renamed master to single-user, and you renamed the master in github to single-user, but the config still said that the local branch should track origin/master
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2021-05-25 09:29:37	osse	and when you push, the default is to push the current branch to the one it is tracking. That's why master reappeared all the time
2021-05-25 09:29:47	wallbroken	ok
2021-05-25 09:29:55	rawtaz	(track = like pointing to, i.e a reference)
2021-05-25 09:30:09	wallbroken	so, the problem is that vs code doesn't update the local branch to remap to the new remote?
2021-05-25 09:30:17	osse	whether it's a bug in in vscode or not... maybe not, but it should definitely indicate somehow what remote branch a local oe is tracking
2021-05-25 09:31:05	wallbroken	do i need to file a bug to git extension of vs code?
2021-05-25 09:31:09	osse	wallbroken: no, that's not vscode's fault.
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2021-05-25 09:32:02	rawtaz	wallbroken: food for thought; i use vs code, but i always run my git stuff in the/a terminal instead, i.e. manual git commands. i find it slow and more complex/work to use the UI for that. point being: consider using raw git commands instead of your vs code git view for making changes/committing, etc.
2021-05-25 09:32:13	rawtaz	that way you will 100% learn git better, and in the long run it will benefit you trumendously
2021-05-25 09:32:17	rawtaz	tremendously*
2021-05-25 09:32:49	osse	http://sprunge.us/cETa7a
2021-05-25 09:32:56	rawtaz	i have seen so many people starting to use git through the git view thingie in the gui and it all becomes a complete mess because they have no idea what theyre doing :7
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2021-05-25 09:33:03	osse	i rename master to rofl, and it still tracks upstream/master
2021-05-25 09:33:42	wallbroken	osse: why you say that it's not a vs code fault?
2021-05-25 09:33:50	osse	correc
2021-05-25 09:33:51	osse	t
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2021-05-25 09:35:35	osse	what *is* vscode's fault is how it tries to create branches for you and apprently can't easily tell you why it didn't work. and I don't understand why it tries to create branche in the cases it did in the first place
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2021-05-25 09:44:09	wallbroken	WTF
2021-05-25 09:44:19	wallbroken	it is committing to both the branches
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2021-05-25 09:44:31	wallbroken	what a disasater
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2021-05-25 09:48:35	Timvde	rawtaz: Github isn't helping, last I checked they had a big "Sync" button in their desktop client. I mean, what does that even do o_o
2021-05-25 09:48:56	rawtaz	yeah.. i agree
2021-05-25 09:49:01	rawtaz	i dont use it but i agree
2021-05-25 09:49:03	Timvde	wallbroken: which branches?
2021-05-25 09:49:24	Timvde	I don't use it either, but I have seen new colleagues use it before I convinced them to use the CLI :P
2021-05-25 09:49:33	rawtaz	and gosh, is there anything git-worse than when people make changes in their vs code then enter a commit message and commit? ALL THEIR UNRELATED STUFF AS WELL
2021-05-25 09:50:17	rawtaz	wallbroken: if you take a step back and stop being so panicky - realize that git only does what you or vs code tells it to do. it doesnt magically screw things up for you or commit to multiple branches unless told to. this is fact.
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2021-05-25 09:50:37	rawtaz	like, spend your time thinking about this systematically instead of whining, for gods sake ;)
2021-05-25 09:50:46	rawtaz	it only does what *you* tell it to
2021-05-25 09:51:33	wallbroken	rawtaz: you are right, but it's like a drill you need to do your work. Now you need to stop your work and work to understand how the drill works
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2021-05-25 09:52:14	wallbroken	i use a git extension to reduce the effort
2021-05-25 09:52:24	cbreak	don't use a drill if you don't know how it works!
2021-05-25 09:52:39	Timvde	wallbroken: it is useful to learn to understand the tools you work with every day. You'll save a lot of time in the long run with that initial investment :)
2021-05-25 09:52:42	cbreak	you might drill a hole into your foot, or might poke an eye out with a splintered drill bit
2021-05-25 09:52:46	cbreak	those things are _dangerous_
2021-05-25 09:52:47	rawtaz	wallbroken: yeah, i hear you. trust me, i totally see that you can be frustrated. thats all fine, we've all been there  (most of us at least)
2021-05-25 09:53:00	cbreak	git is much safer
2021-05-25 09:53:13	cbreak	there are usually many ways to recover from mistakes, as long as stuff is committed
2021-05-25 09:53:26	cbreak	and even in the worst case, the only thing you lose is data, not an eye or a foot...
2021-05-25 09:53:46	wallbroken	cbreak: i used a version control in MS Visual Studio for many years
2021-05-25 09:53:48	wallbroken	is very easy
2021-05-25 09:54:08	wallbroken	you don't need much effort to understand it
2021-05-25 09:54:17	cbreak	oh, I bet you do, to do it correctly
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2021-05-25 09:54:59	cbreak	maybe your old tool just lacks the capabilities of having branches
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2021-05-25 10:03:28	osse	i have used other systems that made me lose sleep at night because they were so fucking horrible
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2021-05-25 10:08:09	 *	ByteSlayer coughs CVS coughs
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2021-05-25 10:11:12	Timvde	*cough* Dropbox *cough*
2021-05-25 10:13:04	tango_	pretty sure dropbox is more reliable than cvs
2021-05-25 10:13:05	 *	tango_ runs
2021-05-25 10:13:42	cbreak	if you put the bar any lower, australians might trip over it...
2021-05-25 10:14:37	Timvde	It's funny how for pretty much everyone Australia is on the other side of the world
2021-05-25 10:14:46	tango_	except for the australians
2021-05-25 10:15:00	Timvde	I'm not even sure about that anymore at this point!
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2021-05-25 10:16:16	osse	at least CVS is free
2021-05-25 10:18:50	osse	this answer has a good mix of being sufficiently topical AND sufficiently hateful: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1141474
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2021-05-25 10:20:22	osse	and note that it's from 2009
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2021-05-25 11:18:59	justmondris	hello all, pls why is git pull deleting some of my local files?
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2021-05-25 11:19:10	justmondris	here is the log: https://bpa.st/RLYA
2021-05-25 11:19:14	justmondris	please i need help
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2021-05-25 11:19:40	justmondris	i have already push to develop but it resulted to conflict
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2021-05-25 11:20:25	@ikke	justmondris: because the branch you merged removed those files
2021-05-25 11:20:31	@ikke	so the merge result is to remove those files
2021-05-25 11:20:40	justmondris	but whenever i pull from develop  to see and fix the conflicts, it will delete some of my local files
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2021-05-25 11:21:13	justmondris	please, do you mean the files where deleted from develo?
2021-05-25 11:21:17	justmondris	develop?
2021-05-25 11:21:25	@ikke	yes
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2021-05-25 11:21:45	justmondris	so how do i fix this?
2021-05-25 11:21:55	horribleprogram	is there a git dev channel
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2021-05-25 11:22:02	@ikke	#git-devel
2021-05-25 11:22:07	horribleprogram	ty
2021-05-25 11:22:26	@ikke	justmondris: first figure out who removed those files
2021-05-25 11:22:32	@ikke	and talk to them
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2021-05-25 11:22:59	justmondris	okay
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2021-05-25 11:23:48	justmondris	thanks
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2021-05-25 11:55:30	vadi2	I've got my development branch and my release branch onto which I've cherry-picked selected bugfixes. How can I get a list of all commits now that I've made to development, excluding the ones cherrypicked to the release branch?
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2021-05-25 12:03:35	cbreak	vadi2: see man git-cherry
2021-05-25 12:03:35	@gitinfo	vadi2: the git-cherry manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-cherry.html
2021-05-25 12:04:48	vadi2	Hmm is it the right link? I'm trying to figure out how to use git log to ignore cherrypicked commits
2021-05-25 12:05:03	cbreak	it'll list all commits in the branch you tell it to
2021-05-25 12:05:24	cbreak	and marks all commits that are only on that branch with a +, and those that have a similar commit in upstream with a -
2021-05-25 12:05:34	cbreak	presumably those similar commits have been cherry-picked
2021-05-25 12:05:42	cbreak	(or copied over some other way)
2021-05-25 12:05:57	vadi2	I see what you mean
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2021-05-25 12:22:14	gschanuel	Hello there! Can I do something similar to sparse-checkout with git 2.17 ?
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2021-05-25 12:25:44	@ikke	no
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2021-05-25 13:06:48	gschanuel	I got something with `git clone --depth 1 --filter=blob:none --no-checkout https://myrepo` and `git checkout master -- folder1 folder2` but then I get an error when I try `git checkout master`: "git upload-pack: not our ref a410bfbe57e0190f89b501e7c1ee39118f618844"
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2021-05-25 13:19:10	bn_work	osse, did you see my comment earlier?  (it mistakenly got put into pastebin)
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2021-05-25 13:48:17	AckSynAck	hello! would you recommend a free and open source note-taking program for quick notes?
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2021-05-25 13:54:46	bn_work	osse:  when one does `git cherry-pick -X subtree=foo`, where does it generate the conflict files?  I tried running that (substituting foo with my folder prefix) and just got `error: could not apply <commit#> hint: after resolving the conflicts, mark the corrected paths
2021-05-25 13:54:46	bn_work	hint: with 'git add <paths>' or 'git rm <paths>'
2021-05-25 13:54:46	bn_work	hint: and commit the result with 'git commit'`
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2021-05-25 13:55:48	bn_work	I took a look at the files it should have made the changes too but didn't see the usual merge conflict marker indicators?
2021-05-25 13:56:17	osse	bn_work: honestly, I have no clue. I just know you can do the -X subtree=foo thing but I have never used it
2021-05-25 13:56:34	mackerman	AckSynAck: Wrong channel, try something like ##software
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2021-05-25 13:57:36	bn_work	oh n/m, I see it in the index, it ended up trying to modify the existing original tree's files, ugh
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2021-05-25 14:02:56	bn_work	osse:  will `git cherry-pick --abort` rollback the index to pre-cherry-pick state
2021-05-25 14:02:58	bn_work	?
2021-05-25 14:03:04	osse	yep
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2021-05-25 14:03:42	AckSynAck	mackerman, right channel, git users take notes, too
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2021-05-25 14:06:27	mackerman	AckSynAck: You didn't specify storage in git.
2021-05-25 14:06:48	bn_work	thanks osse, that seems to have worked
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2021-05-25 14:10:52	AckSynAck	mackerman, I cant parse your comment
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2021-05-25 14:11:39	mackerman	git is on topic here. Other software can be discussed elsewhere.
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2021-05-25 14:12:50	AckSynAck	I am not discussing software
2021-05-25 14:13:25	bn_work	ikke:  trying your suggestion now, when I did `git format-patch --relative <commit#>` it just produced a bunch of 0-byte files, am I usng this correctly?
2021-05-25 14:13:40	nedbat	AckSynAck: i think the point is that you are not talking about git, so another channel would be better.
2021-05-25 14:14:30	bn_work	I looked through the man pages earlier on that and it says is prepares patches for email submission?
2021-05-25 14:14:31	osse	bn_work: --relative=foo
2021-05-25 14:14:38	AckSynAck	ok, rephrasing my question; hello! would you recommend a free and open source note-taking program for quick notes while working with git?
2021-05-25 14:15:01	AckSynAck	come and tell me I cant ask that
2021-05-25 14:15:05	mackerman	git notes annotate commits directly
2021-05-25 14:15:07	mackerman	man git notes
2021-05-25 14:15:07	@gitinfo	the git-notes manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-notes.html
2021-05-25 14:15:34	bn_work	osse:  strange, `man git format-patch` doesn't list `--relative` as an option...
2021-05-25 14:15:34	@gitinfo	osse: the git-format-patch manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-format-patch.html
2021-05-25 14:15:56	osse	bn_work: correct, it's a bit difficult
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2021-05-25 14:16:17	osse	but in git's weak defence it does say "<common diff options>" in the synopsis
2021-05-25 14:16:37	osse	dang, I spelled synopsis correctly!
2021-05-25 14:16:42	AckSynAck	ok, then; hello! would you recommend a free and open source EXTERNAL note-taking program for quick notes while working with git?
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2021-05-25 14:18:51	bn_work	osse:  thanks, so ran it with --relative=<dir_suffix> still generates 0-byte files :/
2021-05-25 14:18:56	AckSynAck	ok, no worries.
2021-05-25 14:19:12	osse	bn_work: you mean dir_prefix ?
2021-05-25 14:19:39	osse	try with git show --relative
2021-05-25 14:19:41	osse	much easier
2021-05-25 14:19:50	osse	once you get it  right, use format-patch
2021-05-25 14:19:58	bn_work	osse: well the path is the same till the last folder name (I'm ignoring the file name differences too for now)
2021-05-25 14:20:02	osse	(btw, have you tried just using cherry-pick directly?)
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2021-05-25 14:21:52	osse	can you show some example paths, because i'm confused
2021-05-25 14:22:00	bn_work	osse: git show --relative just shows the most recent commit in my 1-liner format, same with git show --relative=<dir_suffix> or git show --relative=<dir_suffix> <commit#>
2021-05-25 14:22:20	osse	it shows a patch too right?
2021-05-25 14:22:27	bn_work	osse:  /foo/bar/1.0/baz-1.0_install.bash vs /foo/bar/2.0/baz-2.0_install.bash
2021-05-25 14:22:51	bn_work	no, just a 1-liner summary of the commit
2021-05-25 14:23:01	osse	add -p
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2021-05-25 14:23:54	osse	git show shows a patch by default
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2021-05-25 14:24:45	bn_work	osse:  no real diff (no pun intended :) ), just a blank newline before the 1-liner
2021-05-25 14:25:11	bn_work	git show -p --relative=<dir_suffix> <commit#>
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2021-05-25 14:26:33	osse	what is the *exact* stuff you write in place of <dir_suffix> ?
2021-05-25 14:26:43	bn_work	re. "have you tried just using cherry-pick directly?":  I tried with the relative=<dir_suffix> option and it tried to transplant it on top of itself, ie: that mess from earlier if that's what you mean?
2021-05-25 14:27:13	bn_work	osse:  for the example I gave earlier it would be --relative=2.0
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2021-05-25 14:27:25	bn_work	(while in the 2.0 dir)
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2021-05-25 14:33:38	osse	bn_work: --relative=foo/bar/1.0 is the only thing that will work here
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2021-05-25 14:33:44	osse	or 2.0
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2021-05-25 14:33:48	osse	not sure which
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2021-05-25 14:34:04	osse	the point of --relative is to remove path components from the -a/foo +b/foo lines in a patch
2021-05-25 14:34:06	bn_work	ok, I wonder if `--relative` is for something else... this is what man git-diff says about relative:
2021-05-25 14:34:06	bn_work	> When run from a subdirectory of the project, it can be told to exclude changes outside the directory and show pathnames relative to it with this option. When you are not in a subdirectory (e.g. in a bare repository), you can name which subdirectory to make the output relative to by giving a <path> as an argument.
2021-05-25 14:34:06	@gitinfo	the git-diff manpage is available at https://gitirc.eu/git-diff.html
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2021-05-25 14:35:00	osse	fuck me, now I gotta test this
2021-05-25 14:36:08	osse	ok, so if you're in 2.0 then these two will work:  --relative  or  --relative=foo/bar/2.0
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2021-05-25 14:46:26	Deep6	hey everyone, can someone tell me where the actual code is stored in a "bare git repository"
2021-05-25 14:46:42	@ikke	objects/
2021-05-25 14:47:08	nedbat	Deep6: but it isn't stored in plain-text files
2021-05-25 14:48:02	Deep6	nedbat: ok is this the idx and .pack files?
2021-05-25 14:48:15	@ikke	yes
2021-05-25 14:49:00	Deep6	thanks guys, :(
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2021-05-25 14:50:15	Deep6	I'm worried I was running a tool called TruffleHog to identify secrets over a large set of repo's and it produced credible results but ultimately all my repo's were in a "bare repository"
2021-05-25 14:50:17	osse	bn_work: did you get it working?
2021-05-25 14:50:40	@ikke	Deep6: yeah, that would not work,
2021-05-25 14:50:43	Deep6	my guess is that this is a flawed result :(
2021-05-25 14:50:48	bn_work	osee: still testing
2021-05-25 14:50:51	Deep6	it produced credible results though...
2021-05-25 14:51:07	@ikke	maybe if trufflehog has support for git repositories?
2021-05-25 14:51:35	Deep6	it does appear too....
2021-05-25 14:51:38	Deep6	https://github.com/trufflesecurity/truffleHog
2021-05-25 14:52:18	@ikke	yes, it mentions scanning git history
2021-05-25 14:53:13	Deep6	ok so despite being a bare repository would that be credible results then?
2021-05-25 14:53:30	Deep6	apologies for the newb questions
2021-05-25 14:53:38	@ikke	yes
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2021-05-25 14:53:49	Deep6	git internals are fascinating...but whoh nelly deeply complex! :)
2021-05-25 14:53:52	@ikke	for these tools it should not matter whether the repository is bare or not
2021-05-25 14:53:54	Deep6	thanks ikke!
2021-05-25 14:54:04	Deep6	is there any way to count lines of code using bare repositories?
2021-05-25 14:54:32	Deep6	tools like cloc, and ssloc don't seem to grok the bare repository format
2021-05-25 14:54:45	@ikke	correct, they would need a working tree
2021-05-25 14:55:12	bn_work	osse:  so is relative just changing the -a/foo +b/foo lines at the top to some relative path?  or actually making the patch context relative too "2.0" (for ex)?  If the former only, does that even really do anything?
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2021-05-25 14:55:31	Deep6	ok so no way around that then, thanks ikke, at least not ALL my work has been for naught
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2021-05-25 15:00:56	osse	bn_work: it just changes the ab/ lines
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2021-05-25 15:01:29	bn_work	I wonder if what I need to do is just dump the diff to .patch files and edit it
2021-05-25 15:01:37	osse	bn_work: and it does half of the work. the next half is applying this patch with git am --directory=foo/bar/1.0
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2021-05-25 15:08:47	bn_work	osse:  so what flags did you use to generate the patch?  I had some notes on the exact ones to use but don't normally do it often
2021-05-25 15:09:31	osse	generate which patch? I haven't generated anything :P
2021-05-25 15:10:04	osse	git format-patch -1 --relative=foo/bar/2.0 <commitID>
2021-05-25 15:10:15	Dotz0cat	I have a repo on github and a folder on my computer with all my dev files. The folder is not tracked by git. It should be identical to the repo on github. How do I get the folder tracked and connected to github?
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2021-05-25 15:13:22	osse	Dotz0cat: the easiest is to clone the repo from github and copy the files over
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2021-05-25 15:13:32	osse	but if they're identical you can just throw them away, I guess
2021-05-25 15:13:55	bn_work	oh here we go, found my note:  `diff -Naur foo/bar/baz baz`
2021-05-25 15:14:04	osse	anything other then cloning is a hassle. But you can move/rename the directory after cloning if you want/need
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2021-05-25 15:18:47	bn_work	I'm confused why git format-patch is needed
2021-05-25 15:19:10	bn_work	wouldn't generating the patch via git diff be sufficient?
2021-05-25 15:19:23	osse	depends on what you want
2021-05-25 15:19:25	bn_work	w/ or w/o relative?
2021-05-25 15:19:31	osse	if all you need is a patch, then sure
2021-05-25 15:19:46	osse	but the initial idea was to replicate what cherry-pick would do
2021-05-25 15:19:55	bn_work	git format-patch seems to be for emailing patches it seems?
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2021-05-25 15:20:33	osse	yes, that's its main selling point. but it is is regardless an exellent way of producing a patch with all the commit metadata
2021-05-25 15:23:21	osse	if it makes you fell better you can email the patch to yourself before applying
2021-05-25 15:23:24	osse	*Feel
2021-05-25 15:23:48	osse	But just to be clear. You did actually try a plain git cherry-pick which then failed, right?
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2021-05-25 16:15:40	bn_work	I think initially but I need to check my history, I've ended up doing it manually though as the patch it seems to be generating are too different and strict, perhaps this might be beyond current merge algorithms..
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2021-05-25 18:51:19	matthewcroughan_	Has this place quietened down since the Freenode stuff?
2021-05-25 18:51:37	afk	it's always been mostly idle
2021-05-25 18:51:45	matthewcroughan_	lol, that username, and what you just said :D
2021-05-25 18:51:59	afk	heh
2021-05-25 18:52:19	matthewcroughan_	I want to `git rebase master`, but I want to stop at something that is automatically advanced by `git rebase --continue`
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2021-05-25 18:52:38	matthewcroughan_	`git rebase --continue` skips over the commit I want to fix still, because there are no conflicts.
2021-05-25 18:52:52	matthewcroughan_	How can I use git rebase to advance only one commit at a time, and not automatically fast forward if there are no conflicts?
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2021-05-25 18:54:15	osse	matthewcroughan_: you can do an interactive rebase and use the "break" command for all commits
2021-05-25 18:54:30	matthewcroughan_	Oh, I thought that `git rebase master` was already interactive
2021-05-25 18:54:37	matthewcroughan_	my bad
2021-05-25 18:55:07	osse	you can also do -x bash I guess (or whatever is your shell)
2021-05-25 18:55:22	osse	that will start a new shell after each commit, which you have to exit for it to continue
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2021-05-25 18:55:41	matthewcroughan_	osse: -x where?
2021-05-25 18:55:44	matthewcroughan_	git rebase -x bash?
2021-05-25 18:55:47	osse	yes
2021-05-25 18:55:53	matthewcroughan_	cool..
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2021-05-25 19:53:37	matthewcroughan_	Is there any way to discretely change the commit message in `git rebase -i`?
2021-05-25 19:54:06	matthewcroughan_	When you are presented with all of the commits, their oneline short hashes, etc. It'd be nice if you could just change the commit message that is in that view, can you?
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2021-05-25 19:58:36	rawtaz	afaik you cant edit the message in that list view, you have to mark it for rewording and then do the actual rewording when rebase processes that commit. if thats what you meant
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2021-05-25 20:04:39	cousteau	matthewcroughan_: isn't that what edit does?
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2021-05-25 20:05:36	matthewcroughan_	Yes, but you have to go through phase per commit, where you have a completely separate instance of vim, or whatever your editor is. cousteau
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2021-05-25 20:05:55	cousteau	or "reword", whatever.  Anyway, the commit message in that list is only informational, not read by git at all
2021-05-25 20:05:59	matthewcroughan_	Whereas, if I could just edit the message in the first instance, when I do `git rebase -i` and it opens up my editor
2021-05-25 20:06:06	rawtaz	edit i think edits the commit (i.e. pauses for you to edit it), whereas reword only fires up your editor straight away
2021-05-25 20:06:42	cousteau	rawtaz: yeah I would probably use edit and then commit with a modified commit message because I didn't know better
2021-05-25 20:07:14	cousteau	unless the interactive message clearly states the reword option, in which case I *might* notice it and use it
2021-05-25 20:07:38	cousteau	matthewcroughan_: also I don't think you'd usually want to change only the title of a commit and not the whole description
2021-05-25 20:08:15	rawtaz	cousteau: yea, stop doing that and use the reword option :D
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2021-05-25 20:09:44	cousteau	rawtaz: I was saying what I would have done, not what I *should* have done :D  you need to take into account that I'm pretty dumb
2021-05-25 20:11:49	Hello71	cousteau: just make all your commit messages one line
2021-05-25 20:11:49	rawtaz	hey dont try to claim the dumb-card from me :P
2021-05-25 20:12:02	rawtaz	or even better, make all your changes one commit
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2021-05-25 20:13:20	cousteau	Hello71: I once saw a git repo where all commit messages were literally "..."
2021-05-25 20:13:25	cousteau	(without the quotes)
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2021-05-25 20:25:22	rawtaz	lol
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2021-05-25 21:10:56	matthewcroughan_	You can add a new commit in the middle of a rebase right?
2021-05-25 21:11:21	matthewcroughan_	As in, you can add a commit that is intended to be manipulated later, squashed, etc. Just ad-hoc in the middle of an interactive rebase, right?
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2021-05-25 22:03:56	Dotz0cat	I clone a repo of mine off of github. I checked out a new branch. I made a commit on the new branch. How do I add the new branch onto github with the new commit?
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2021-05-25 22:08:39	mackerman	Dotz0cat: git push -u remote newbranch
2021-05-25 22:09:22	Dotz0cat	can I do that while still checkedout?
2021-05-25 22:10:13	mackerman	You may.
2021-05-25 22:10:55	mackerman	Substitute your real remote for "remote", possibly named origin.
2021-05-25 22:10:56	Dotz0cat	thanks!
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2021-05-25 22:12:08	mackerman	Omitting branch assumes current branch, so switching first can be a useful habit.
2021-05-25 22:12:43	anton	idk if this is for #git or a different channel, but are there any benefits to switching to cgit over gitweb? some people in different networks suggested I switch from gitweb, but idrk how "worth it" switching would be
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2021-05-25 22:17:20	+s17	what is cgit and gitweb?
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2021-05-25 22:17:36	anton	web frontends
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2021-05-25 22:18:44	kerframil	anton: I haven't used gitweb, but I've heard it be said that it doesn't scale very well and, looking at the script, I can believe it (look at the git_get_last_activity sub, for example).
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2021-05-26 02:55:04	tango_	OT note: when you DO move remember to not put it explicitly in the topic or freenode staff will take over the channel
2021-05-26 02:55:16	tango_	so do it using something like a gitinfo onjoin message
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2021-05-26 02:58:27	@ikke	Or we should :p
2021-05-26 02:58:41	blue_penquin	Yup, #k-9,#newpipe, #archlinux-pacman,security, #lichess, #btrfs, #systemd and more were taken down by Freenode staff.
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2021-05-26 03:03:22	cbreak	looks like #btrfs lacked some redundancy... :)
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2021-05-26 03:04:08	Timvde	Only channels in the # namespace it seems, though. ##rust also mentions libera, and nothing happened there.
2021-05-26 03:04:17	tango_	interesting
2021-05-26 03:04:30	Timvde	Since the bot redirects people to ##channel in their message, I suppose that makes some sense
2021-05-26 03:04:32	tango_	the usual takeover is to mute the # channel and redirect to the ## channel
2021-05-26 03:04:38	tango_	yeah
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2021-05-26 03:04:40	Timvde	Would be funny if they redirected to ##channel :P
2021-05-26 03:04:45	Timvde	eh, to ###channel*
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2021-05-26 09:22:10	DevAntoine	Hi
2021-05-26 09:23:15	DevAntoine	I've checked sha, not a branch. I'm not sure if it updates my files or not so I tried git pull but I got "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref 29e2bee"
2021-05-26 09:23:18	DevAntoine	What am I missing?
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2021-05-26 09:24:21	cbreak	DevAntoine: hashes are not refs
2021-05-26 09:24:42	cbreak	pulling is fetching + merging, that's not a good idea to do when you're in a detached HEAD state (which you are)
2021-05-26 09:24:58	cbreak	you don't need to pull.
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2021-05-26 09:25:29	DevAntoine	oh, I see.
2021-05-26 09:25:41	DevAntoine	But what about this part: "hashes are not refs"
2021-05-26 09:25:44	DevAntoine	I'm confused.
2021-05-26 09:26:06	cbreak	do you know what a domain name is?
2021-05-26 09:26:25	cbreak	a ref is similar to a domain name, a user-friendly name pointing at the truth
2021-05-26 09:26:31	cbreak	hashes are more like ip addresses
2021-05-26 09:26:46	cbreak	the real identifier, but not very usable on its own
2021-05-26 09:26:59	cbreak	refs are branch names, tag names or similar
2021-05-26 09:27:16	cbreak	you can only fetch refs from remotes, not hashes directly
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2021-05-26 09:28:59	DevAntoine	oh, ok, I see.
2021-05-26 09:29:00	DevAntoine	Thannks :)
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2021-05-26 09:35:04	Rondom	 /msg gitinfo .voice
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2021-05-26 10:15:57	bin_bash	hope the decision to move gets made soon after this most recent debacle
2021-05-26 10:16:05	onizu	hi
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2021-05-26 10:16:38	mud	Ya, is someone taking votes on moving or something? Personally I'm already over there. Once my PC restarts, I've set it not to join freenode anymore.
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2021-05-26 10:18:17	onizu	I'm planning to use git for pushing incomplete changes to a branch so that I can pick up the work on another laptop. Is this a good way or there's something better?
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2021-05-26 10:19:24	+s17	it sounds fine to me
2021-05-26 10:19:31	mud	onizu: It'll work pretty well for that
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2021-05-26 10:21:49	onizu	is it a good idea to use git for that purpose though?
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2021-05-26 10:23:41	mud	It's what I'd use (I do use it for that, but not _only_ that). I'm not sure what a good idea or not here means. It'll work, and it shouldn't annoy you too much, and it shouldn't annoy anyone else too much
2021-05-26 10:25:11	mackerman	Understand that these are seperate repos that can merge in each other's history via remotes.
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2021-05-26 10:26:11	mackerman	File sync is the wrong way to think about it, which is a problematic comparison some people make.
2021-05-26 10:27:01	onizu	mackerman: are you talking in reference to my query?
2021-05-26 10:27:09	imMute	onizu: sounds fine to me, but you should consider rebasing those WIP commits to be proper commits once you've completed some work
2021-05-26 10:27:20	mackerman	onizu: Yes.
2021-05-26 10:27:28	onizu	"rebasing commits"?
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2021-05-26 10:27:47	onizu	mackerman: I'll be using the same repo and branch
2021-05-26 10:28:07	mackerman	If you're pushing commits, its not the same repo.
2021-05-26 10:28:15	mackerman	(Technically)
2021-05-26 10:28:29	onizu	there's only one repo.. not sure what you mean
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2021-05-26 10:29:52	mackerman	Each copy of .git  is a different repo.  Although some are clones of each other and share nearly all the same history.
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2021-05-26 10:42:21	onizu	mackerman: ok
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2021-05-26 10:51:50	drogas	moving to libra?
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2021-05-26 10:53:02	osse	unofficially, yes
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2021-05-26 10:56:20	mud	Many of us are there already. I'll stop being here once my PC restarts ever.
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2021-05-26 10:57:41	tango_	the only important missing thing is gitinfo
2021-05-26 10:57:42	tango_	8-)
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2021-05-26 11:17:36	devslash	I wrote an app thats an SPA and want to publish it to github pages
2021-05-26 11:18:00	devslash	do I have to manually compile and upload the build to github pages or is there an easier way
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2021-05-26 13:42:30	matthewcroughan_	How can I forcably use `git mv` to merge folders?
2021-05-26 13:42:37	matthewcroughan_	It just says `fatal: cannot move directory over file, source=source/reference-manual, destination=mkdocs/docs/reference-manual` for example
2021-05-26 13:42:41	matthewcroughan_	even if I use `git mv -f`
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2021-05-26 13:43:23	ndim	git mv source/reference-manual/* mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/ perhaps?
2021-05-26 13:43:37	matthewcroughan_	that just contains folders, which produce the same issue
2021-05-26 13:43:41	imMute	matthewcroughan_: just move them with mv or whatever tool you want.   then use 'git rm $old_path; git add $new_path'
2021-05-26 13:44:02	matthewcroughan_	are you sure that will produce a move operation rather than a delete operation? imMute
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2021-05-26 13:44:16	imMute	matthewcroughan_: git only records add/removes, not renames.  so yes, it's exactly the same.
2021-05-26 13:44:20	@ikke	matthewcroughan_: git does not really have move operations
2021-05-26 13:45:18	@ikke	git mv == mv <source> <target>; git rm --cached <source>; git add <target>
2021-05-26 13:45:33	matthewcroughan_	lol, it still happens with posix mv
2021-05-26 13:45:41	matthewcroughan_	I just wanan merge the folder contents
2021-05-26 13:45:47	matthewcroughan_	clobbering even
2021-05-26 13:45:55	@ikke	one path is a file
2021-05-26 13:46:00	matthewcroughan_	nope
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2021-05-26 13:46:08	matthewcroughan_	`mv source/reference-manual/* mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/`
2021-05-26 13:46:20	@ikke	cannot move directory over file
2021-05-26 13:46:26	matthewcroughan_	I'm not trying to.
2021-05-26 13:46:31	matthewcroughan_	I'm trying to move directories over directories.
2021-05-26 13:46:46	matthewcroughan_	yes, these directories contain files, that's the point, I'm trying to clobber the two together
2021-05-26 13:47:22	matthewcroughan_	apparently I have to use `cp -r ` to do this, then remove the source :D
2021-05-26 13:47:37	@ikke	Well, the apparently you cannot clobber a file with a directory
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2021-05-26 13:47:51	matthewcroughan_	I'm not trying to clobber a file with a directory
2021-05-26 13:47:57	@ikke	apparently
2021-05-26 13:47:57	matthewcroughan_	I am trying to clobber directories, with directories
2021-05-26 13:48:03	@ikke	if both mv as git say so
2021-05-26 13:48:17	matthewcroughan_	How can I prove to you that I am doing what I am saying?
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2021-05-26 13:48:40	matthewcroughan_	that both of these things are directories
2021-05-26 13:48:54	@ikke	sure, but in there there might be a file that you try to overwrite with a directory?
2021-05-26 13:49:13	matthewcroughan_	I don't think so, no
2021-05-26 13:49:27	matthewcroughan_	I mean, I'm ls'ing and don't see that as being the case.
2021-05-26 13:49:34	@ikke	try tree
2021-05-26 13:50:35	matthewcroughan_	Yeah, I'm definitely not trying to overwrite directories with files or vice versa.
2021-05-26 13:52:02	matthewcroughan_	ikke: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/MatthewCroughan/240c6519783aac174dedac657c369141/raw/e6269cbc736bed086c046b3bec6c690c898128cc/gistfile1.txt
2021-05-26 13:53:14	matthewcroughan_	and if I do `mv source/reference-manual/* mkdocs/docs/reference-manual` I'll end up with this same error
2021-05-26 13:53:16	matthewcroughan_	weird huh?
2021-05-26 13:53:31	@ikke	try strace mv ...
2021-05-26 13:53:36	matthewcroughan_	I've literally never had this problem before, I thought I'd run into this posix stuff sooner.
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2021-05-26 13:54:14	matthewcroughan_	I'm doing: `strace -o strace mv source/reference-manual/* mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/`
2021-05-26 13:54:37	matthewcroughan_	I get mv: cannot move 'source/reference-manual/boards' to 'mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/boards': Directory not empty
2021-05-26 13:54:42	matthewcroughan_	Here's the strace https://termbin.com/mzz3
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2021-05-26 13:56:05	@ikke	rename("source/reference-manual/security", "mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/security") = -1 ENOTEMPTY (Directory not empty)
2021-05-26 13:56:42	matthewcroughan_	Yeah, so this. mv: cannot move 'source/reference-manual/security' to 'mkdocs/docs/reference-manual/security': Directory not empty
2021-05-26 13:56:43	imMute	mv isn't really a good tool for merging one directory into another, for the reasons you're finding.
2021-05-26 13:57:05	matthewcroughan_	imMute: yeah, I've just never ran into this before, I find it hard to believe honestly
2021-05-26 13:57:07	matthewcroughan_	cp -r will do it
2021-05-26 13:57:09	imMute	like the big one being, it literally *can't* merge directories
2021-05-26 13:57:15	matthewcroughan_	I just never considered mv being unable to do this
2021-05-26 13:57:32	@ikke	You see that it just tries to rename things
2021-05-26 13:57:38	imMute	matthewcroughan_: it's because of how mv works.  it just splices the data structure to a different place in the tree.  if the destination already exists, that can't possibly work
2021-05-26 13:57:40	matthewcroughan_	yeah, what is `rename` btw?
2021-05-26 13:57:44	matthewcroughan_	`rename()` is coming from the kernel?
2021-05-26 13:58:01	matthewcroughan_	like, is that a syscall?
2021-05-26 13:58:02	@ikke	yes, it's a syscall
2021-05-26 13:58:04	@ikke	yes
2021-05-26 13:58:07	@ikke	that's what strace shows
2021-05-26 13:58:23	@ikke	it shows raw syscalls
2021-05-26 13:58:36	matthewcroughan_	`mv` has a`--no-clobber` flag.
2021-05-26 13:58:49	matthewcroughan_	Interesting that it wouldn't let you clobber dirs like this :D
2021-05-26 13:58:58	@ikke	it can clobber files
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2021-05-26 13:59:03	@ikke	mv a b while b exists
2021-05-26 13:59:10	matthewcroughan_	It only deals with files, not directories. Is that the difference between mv and cp would you say?
2021-05-26 13:59:19	matthewcroughan_	aside from the fact that mv also gets rid of the source
2021-05-26 13:59:24	@ikke	one clue is that cp has a -r flag
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2021-05-26 14:01:49	@ikke	mv does not work recursively
2021-05-26 14:02:01	@ikke	it just works with the arguments you pass it
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2021-05-26 14:15:41	matthewcroughan_	ikke: could you write recursive mv?
2021-05-26 14:15:47	matthewcroughan_	or is it a useless endeavor?
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2021-05-26 14:16:01	@ikke	Should be possible
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2021-05-26 14:16:30	@ikke	but it's not going to be atomic
2021-05-26 14:16:36	@ikke	so it's more like cp then like mv
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2021-05-26 14:25:51	matthewcroughan_	ikke: if I do a `cp -r` then `rm -r` on the directories in question, git actually does not do a move.
2021-05-26 14:25:57	matthewcroughan_	It does a remove and add
2021-05-26 14:26:00	Exagone313	matthewcroughan_: what is a recurive mv to you?
2021-05-26 14:26:13	@ikke	matthewcroughan_: yes, but that's what will happen in the end anyway
2021-05-26 14:26:23	Exagone313	think of a filesystem as a tree, if you move a branch, what recursive operation there is to make
2021-05-26 14:26:27	@ikke	matthewcroughan_: git does not have a concept of moving files in it's internal strcture
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2021-05-26 14:26:45	matthewcroughan_	ikke: sorry, I meant a rename
2021-05-26 14:26:52	matthewcroughan_	Exagone313: cp -r $1 $2 && rm -r $1 $2
2021-05-26 14:27:01	Timvde	matthewcroughan_: a rename and a move are basically the same thing
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2021-05-26 14:27:14	Timvde	git will recognize it as a move/rename when you have added both the deleted and the added files
2021-05-26 14:27:16	matthewcroughan_	Right, so git *does* have an internal concept of moving files. It's called a rename.
2021-05-26 14:27:27	matthewcroughan_	Timvde: that has not occurred in my case
2021-05-26 14:27:40	@ikke	matthewcroughan_: yes, but that's never permanently recorded
2021-05-26 14:27:45	@ikke	it's only inferred
2021-05-26 14:27:48	matthewcroughan_	https://gist.githubusercontent.com/MatthewCroughan/a5db42441003fed44aab2833c4316a73/raw/58f1885f152ffcfacf387c6d5149bb8911bd63bb/gistfile1.txt
2021-05-26 14:27:56	matthewcroughan_	Here, I just wanted to rename the files.
2021-05-26 14:28:06	matthewcroughan_	So, I `cp -r`'d them, then removed the source.
2021-05-26 14:28:11	matthewcroughan_	Git did not recognise this as a rename.
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2021-05-26 14:28:44	Exagone313	I passed through this too, but just read ikke last message
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2021-05-26 14:29:45	matthewcroughan_	Ah okay, so it actually recognises this if I do `git add .` and add all the files.
2021-05-26 14:29:58	matthewcroughan_	but whilst everything is staged, it sees both the deletion and the addition.
2021-05-26 14:30:02	matthewcroughan_	the combination of these two, is a rename then?
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2021-05-26 14:30:20	@ikke	yes, as long as files do not significantly change
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2021-05-26 14:55:00	rangergord	I know I've criticized git in the past for being needlessly complex, but I gotta say, once you put in 10 000 hours, it's pretty usable
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2021-05-26 14:55:31	@ikke	:)
2021-05-26 14:55:52	matthewcroughan_	I wanna see a terminal session of Linus using Git.
2021-05-26 14:56:03	Timvde	I expect it to be rather boring
2021-05-26 14:56:48	rangergord	I'd actually like to see a "programming screencast" of some really good, high-ability programmer. Like Notch did for Minecraft, but from a top dev.
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2021-05-26 14:57:41	rangergord	no disrespect to Notch who's a great guy, just not exactly a good dev
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2021-05-26 14:57:48	matthewcroughan_	He is a good dev.
2021-05-26 14:57:55	matthewcroughan_	Well, in my opinion.
2021-05-26 14:58:00	Timvde	rangergord: I know some Firefox devs are doing that
2021-05-26 14:58:01	deepy	He's not exactly a great guy :p
2021-05-26 14:58:02	matthewcroughan_	A good dev does something, and that's it. Doesn't matter how they do it :D
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2021-05-26 14:59:56	Timvde	rangergord: https://mikeconley.github.io/joy-of-coding-episode-guide/
2021-05-26 15:00:11	deepy	he's now even controversial to the point that Microsoft and Mojang are actively distancing themselves from him
2021-05-26 15:00:26	Timvde	One Firefox dev apparently
2021-05-26 15:01:31	rangergord	deepy: corporations are hardly the arbiters of morality. Anywhere the wind blows, they follow. If journalists decided to start saying tomorrow that pedophila is good, Microsoft would follow, and distance themselves from anyone who was anti-pedophilia
2021-05-26 15:02:01	matthewcroughan_	Google say that what they're doing is good.
2021-05-26 15:02:02	matthewcroughan_	I believe them.
2021-05-26 15:02:39	deepy	rangergord: yeah we're literally seeing the opposite of that happening in places like the UK, corporations aren't blindly following the media though, but in the case of Notch Microsoft had good reason to
2021-05-26 15:02:44	matthewcroughan_	"Don't be evil" was their catchphrase. Modern philosophers.
2021-05-26 15:03:33	rangergord	So what's Notch's crime? Not playing the game of blue checkbox Twitter ladder-climbers?
2021-05-26 15:04:21	deepy	hey rangergord, I don't think I like you and I'm not going to do your research for you
2021-05-26 15:05:08	rangergord	No problem. Just please don't do what online authoritarians do, and try to smear me/dox me because I disagree.
2021-05-26 15:05:16	rangergord	"let's agree to disagree", something that is sadly not too common these days
2021-05-26 15:05:31	matthewcroughan_	Notch is smiling through this whole conversation :)
2021-05-26 15:05:48	matthewcroughan_	Like a little beaver.
2021-05-26 15:06:20	rangergord	Notch, if you're reading this, plz finance the Community movie
2021-05-26 15:08:19	rangergord	Timvde: checked it out. Too much HTML, which isn't really coding, and also he goes very slow because he's speaking to the audience and explaining things. I meant a screencast of a 9-to-5 from a developer. Working for hours like they do normally.
2021-05-26 15:08:51	Timvde	rangergord: I haven't actually looked at the casts myself, sorry
2021-05-26 15:08:54	rangergord	this is more like a podcast with screensharing
2021-05-26 15:08:56	rangergord	haha
2021-05-26 15:09:01	Timvde	The description says C++ and JS
2021-05-26 15:10:10	deepy	although as for prominent programmers who stream on twitch, there's planeshift and acegikmo if you're interested in game development, themitsuhiko and cyberbarbie for non-gamedev
2021-05-26 15:10:31	Timvde	He has been doing it for five years, so I imagine that the content has changed over the years
2021-05-26 15:10:55	rangergord	His links "emilio hacks on Firefox!" "Andreas Kling hacks on a custom browser engine for a hand-rolled OS called SerenityOS" "watch a Mozilla engineer hack on the SpiderMonkey JavaScript engine!"   is this some Silicon Valley thing, using hack instead of code/develop/program?
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2021-05-26 15:11:21	deepy	no that's a pretty common phrase in development
2021-05-26 15:12:01	rangergord	I've been a developer for 10 years and never heard this. Oh well...
2021-05-26 15:12:43	rangergord	Timvde: he did link to https://old.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleCode/ , so I imagine I can find something here
2021-05-26 15:14:46	deepy	Not in a lot of open-source circles perhaps? pretty sure it was already in widespread usage before 2010
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2021-05-26 15:19:51	nedbat	rangergord: have you heard of hackathons?
2021-05-26 15:21:24	rangergord	I have. Never seen one though. I imagine since they're more like a race, that it ignores traditional workflows, and I'm kinda interested in that most of all
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2021-05-26 15:26:02	nedbat	rangergord: ok, but now you know why they are called hackathons.  People work on software during them.
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2021-05-26 15:31:09	rangergord	they don't work on software in the same way they do on well-maintained, well-planned software so it doesn't really interest me. I don't need hackathons to show me messy coding, I can just look at my own. :)
2021-05-26 15:33:50	nedbat	rangergord: i'm not recommending hackathons, just making a connection to the word "hack"
2021-05-26 15:35:21	rangergord	Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah. I thought that was just a self-aggrandizing term. I mean the modern definition for hacker means security/penetration hacker.
2021-05-26 15:35:34	rangergord	not "babby's 1st gamedev jam"
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2021-05-26 15:37:09	nedbat	rangergord: the sense here is working on code, but perhaps in a quick way rather than a careful way.
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2021-05-26 16:11:26	Dotz0cat	I moved some files up a directory. What do I need to do to make git happy and have everything tracked correctly
2021-05-26 16:12:28	Timvde	Dotz0cat: add both the removal and the new files
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2021-05-26 16:13:26	Dotz0cat	What is used for git removal?
2021-05-26 16:14:15	Timvde	You can just `git add` the old location, it should show up in `git status`
2021-05-26 16:15:24	Timvde	You can use the regular "tricks" like `git add -u` or `git add .` (if you have a good .gitignore)
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2021-05-26 16:18:05	rasenqan	-server notice- All references to libera.chat is now subject to network-wide ban (k-line)!
2021-05-26 16:19:35	rudi_s	lol
2021-05-26 16:19:40	@ikke	so afraid
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2021-05-26 16:20:07	@ikke	yea
2021-05-26 16:20:11	@ikke	is fake
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2021-05-26 16:20:15	@ikke	it's with a q
2021-05-26 16:20:17	@ikke	not a g
2021-05-26 16:20:26	goddard	hey can i take all my current changes to a new branch?
2021-05-26 16:20:39	rudi_s	goddard: Sure, just use git checkout -b foo
2021-05-26 16:20:48	goddard	i accidentally didn't create a new branch when i started working
2021-05-26 16:21:06	goddard	cool
2021-05-26 16:21:26	@ikke	uncommitted changes do not belong to any branch
2021-05-26 16:21:35	Exagone313	goddard: and then, use git reset on the former branch
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2021-05-26 16:22:07	rudi_s	Assuming you already made a few commits. If not, nothing left to do.
2021-05-26 16:22:28	@ikke	Exagone313: reset does not make sense
2021-05-26 16:22:48	Exagone313	ikke: what would be the right way?
2021-05-26 16:23:07	@ikke	depends whether the changes were committed already or not
2021-05-26 16:23:12	@ikke	but in thise case, it seems like they were not
2021-05-26 16:23:15	Exagone313	if the case there were
2021-05-26 16:23:27	@ikke	then you'd indeed need to reset the branch back
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2021-05-26 17:08:00	erebel55	lo
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2021-05-26 17:08:28	erebel55	Is there any way to correct a code mistake in a commit that has been pushed and isn't the last pushed commit?
2021-05-26 17:08:42	erebel55	Just want the original commit to show the corrected code
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2021-05-26 17:09:58	rudi_s	!force_push
2021-05-26 17:09:58	@gitinfo	If you need to overwrite the history of a remote git repository (be carefull, see !rewrite), you can do so with `git push --force-with-lease`. Note that the remote server may reject this. See man git-config and search for receive.denyNonFastForwards. Best practice is for upstream servers to denyNonFastForwards.
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2021-05-26 17:10:09	imMute	erebel55: interactive rebase, mark commit as edit.  also be aware of issues that can arise if someone else is using that branch too (sdee the force_push rudi_s just hit)
2021-05-26 17:10:24	erebel55	awesome, thank you :)
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2021-05-26 17:11:11	rudi_s	erebel55: And if the commit contained any secrets it's best to assume they are already public and to rotate them. Just in case somebody already fetched the current version.
2021-05-26 17:11:31	erebel55	makes sense
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2021-05-26 19:12:55	resengan	https://twitter.com/Phoul/status/1397417297661284352  enjoy :). They have done so with several other channels too.
2021-05-26 19:14:10	resengan	ikke: https://twitter.com/Phoul/status/1397417297661284352  enjoy :). They have done so with several other channels too. Freenode is fucking burning down.
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2021-05-26 21:24:07	Technodrome	i got a master branch with tons of changes, i need to push around 10 files to a new branch and commit / push them
2021-05-26 21:24:17	Technodrome	whats the best way to do this?
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2021-05-26 21:28:50	+s17	probably the normal way
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2021-05-26 21:29:17	+s17	clone, branch, add, commit, push
2021-05-26 21:30:31	Technodrome	say i create a new branch, i have 30 file changes, but i only want 10 in this branch, i want to put the other 20 in another branch
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2021-05-26 21:33:39	Celelibi	Choose the right files with git add.
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2021-05-26 21:33:50	Celelibi	When you create the commit for the current branch.
2021-05-26 21:34:26	Celelibi	You can even select the changes you want to add to the next commit with git add -p.
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2021-05-26 21:36:15	Celelibi	If you screwed things up, don't worry, you can always rewrite the history. (Just avoid doing it after you made your branches public.)
2021-05-26 21:36:34	Celelibi	Although, git rebase is not the simplest tool to understand.
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2021-05-26 21:46:26	Technodrome	Celelibi so right now everything is just in the master branch, you're saying I can just add my files with git add then do a commit , do I have to list the files when doing the commit?  There are changes to existing files I dont want commited
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2021-05-26 21:47:10	Celelibi	Technodrome, You seem unfamiliar with the committing process.
2021-05-26 21:47:51	Technodrome	well to be honest, i mostly would just do a git add . and a commit -m , and with that all changes would be committed
2021-05-26 21:48:05	Technodrome	this time i want to pick and choose what gets committed
2021-05-26 21:48:28	Celelibi	git add with add the specified files to the index. In git parlance, the index is a temporary area where changes are added and will be made into a commit by the git commit command.
2021-05-26 21:49:01	Celelibi	You can check which files have changed and which are in the index with git status.
2021-05-26 21:50:22	Celelibi	If you wish to see the actual differences, you can use git diff to see the difference between your working directory (where the files you edit lives) and the current commit.
2021-05-26 21:51:07	Celelibi	You can also use git diff --staged to see the difference between the index and the current commit.
2021-05-26 21:51:29	Celelibi	Those are the changes that will be made into a commit by the next git commit.
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2021-05-26 21:52:47	Celelibi	You can provide a directory to git add. This is a shortcut to add all changes made to that directory.
2021-05-26 21:53:02	Celelibi	Which is what you do with git add .
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2021-05-26 21:54:29	Celelibi	I know the manual is not the funniest thing to read, but as a cheat sheet it works pretty well.
2021-05-26 21:54:58	cferry	do you guys provide support with github's workflows too?
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2021-05-26 21:59:36	Celelibi	Nope. See #github for that. (Or wherever they moved if they did.)
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2021-05-26 22:03:57	Technodrome	Celelibi what if the file has already been git added , i git pulled ediited file, but i dont want it in a got commit, i want m other changes
2021-05-26 22:04:13	cferry	totally understood, thank you
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2021-05-26 22:05:08	Celelibi	Technodrome, you did a git add and then a git pull?
2021-05-26 22:05:41	Technodrome	no , so right now, clone , changed some files, added new files
2021-05-26 22:06:05	Technodrome	want my new fils in a new branch / new commit, want changed files in a new branch, and a commit
2021-05-26 22:06:50	Celelibi	Check what git status say.
2021-05-26 22:07:40	Celelibi	It should list some files under "Changes to be committed".
2021-05-26 22:08:17	Technodrome	yes but what if i want to put them in separate commits? can i just list what files are going to be in the commit?
2021-05-26 22:08:47	Celelibi	All the files under "Changes to be committed" will be in the next commit you make with git commit.
2021-05-26 22:09:02	Celelibi	If that's not what you want, you'll have to remove some files from the index.
2021-05-26 22:11:00	Celelibi	When git status and git diff --staged gives you the changes you want to be in the next commit, then you can use git commit.
2021-05-26 22:15:13	Technodrome	ah ok
2021-05-26 22:15:20	Technodrome	just curious, how do you remove from index?
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2021-05-26 22:15:53	Technodrome	i dont want to remove the files from the git repo
2021-05-26 22:15:57	Celelibi	I'm pretty sure git status shows that very command. :)
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2021-05-26 23:39:05	Dotz0cat	I just committed something. One of the things it says is "rewrite src/rajio_app.c (62%)". What does that mean?
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2021-05-27 02:39:31	abhijit	Hi. how can I search which branch has commit whose hash partialy matches to 'abcd'?
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2021-05-27 02:46:10	iokill	abhijit: git branch --contains <commit-sha>
2021-05-27 02:48:00	abhijit	iokill, worked. Thanks.
2021-05-27 02:48:44	iokill	abhijit: np :)
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2021-05-27 02:57:11	onizu	hi
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2021-05-27 02:58:04	onizu	i commited from a  branch and then checked out to master and on trying to merge getting this error: error: unable to start editor 'editor'  .. Not committing merge; use 'git commit' to complete the merge.
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2021-05-27 02:59:45	osse	onizu: what does 'git config core.editor' say ?
2021-05-27 03:00:03	onizu	nothing
2021-05-27 03:00:34	onizu	but why is it trying to access the editor while merging? (i'm not committing, it was already done in the branch)
2021-05-27 03:00:34	osse	hmm
2021-05-27 03:00:45	osse	git config --get-regexp editor
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2021-05-27 03:00:55	osse	because it wants to create a merge commit
2021-05-27 03:01:01	onizu	nothing again
2021-05-27 03:01:06	onizu	ok
2021-05-27 03:01:22	onizu	could it be coz i'm using the --no-ff  flag?
2021-05-27 03:01:31	onizu	(trying without it)
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2021-05-27 03:01:34	osse	yes
2021-05-27 03:01:49	osse	the --no-ff makes it create a merge commit even in the cases it doesn't have to
2021-05-27 03:02:01	onizu	then I got this error: fatal: You have not concluded your merge (MERGE_HEAD exists). ... Please, commit your changes before you merge.
2021-05-27 03:02:22	onizu	o.O (but I have committed)
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2021-05-27 03:03:59	onizu	git status: Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.  ... All conflicts fixed but you are still merging. .. (use "git commit" to conclude merge) Changes to be committed:
2021-05-27 03:04:07	onizu	osse:
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2021-05-27 03:04:39	osse	yup you need to commit
2021-05-27 03:04:42	osse	says so right there
2021-05-27 03:04:44	iokill	onizu: configure an editor for git and then run "git commit" to complete the merge
2021-05-27 03:05:06	osse	you can also git commit --no-edit to accept the default message
2021-05-27 03:05:44	onizu	and what would happen to the commit message I gave when I committed in the branch (which I'm trying to merge ) ?
2021-05-27 03:06:04	osse	those are separate commits
2021-05-27 03:06:11	osse	nothing bad happens to them
2021-05-27 03:06:24	onizu	they will still be there?
2021-05-27 03:06:32	osse	yes
2021-05-27 03:06:40	onizu	I did not push those commits though
2021-05-27 03:07:16	osse	commits aren't completely independent. commits form a chain
2021-05-27 03:07:28	osse	when you push a commit you also push everything that came before it
2021-05-27 03:07:34	onizu	ok
2021-05-27 03:07:55	onizu	it worked with "git commit --no-edit"
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2021-05-27 04:58:31	vladoski_	why should I use git restore when git reset and git rm are there?
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2021-05-27 04:59:56	bookworm	same reason you'd use git switch over checkout... easier interface with less overloaded functionality
2021-05-27 04:59:57	osse	git restore does something else
2021-05-27 05:00:04	cbreak	it says it's experimental
2021-05-27 05:00:08	cbreak	I'd not touch that thing
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2021-05-27 05:30:17	onizu	I was working in a separate branch, made some changes, then checked out 'master' branch .. the changes done in the other branch are also visible here in 'master', why?
2021-05-27 05:31:36	onizu	I didn't yet 'merge' it
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2021-05-27 05:33:04	cbreak	onizu: you didn't tell git about the changes
2021-05-27 05:33:12	cbreak	so they are where you left them: In the working directory
2021-05-27 05:33:20	onizu	means?
2021-05-27 05:33:26	cbreak	changes are only recorded in history onceyou commit them
2021-05-27 05:33:36	cbreak	that is what assigns the changed state to a branch
2021-05-27 05:33:40	onizu	I thought when I did 'git checkout master' it should have loaded the state of the files as in the 'master' branch
2021-05-27 05:33:46	cbreak	it does.
2021-05-27 05:34:02	onizu	oh
2021-05-27 05:34:04	cbreak	that's why switching branches only works if you didn't modify any files that the branch switching would also have to modify
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2021-05-27 05:34:21	onizu	so unless I 'commit' the changes in the other branch, they will be visible on all branches?
2021-05-27 05:35:17	onizu	cbreak: "that's why switching branches only works if you didn't modify any files that the branch switching would also have to modify" didn't get this
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2021-05-27 05:36:35	cbreak	until you commit the new state, the changes will just be in files
2021-05-27 05:36:38	cbreak	and git will not touch them
2021-05-27 05:36:49	cbreak	it's not that they're on all branches, it's more that they are on none
2021-05-27 05:37:20	onizu	got it
2021-05-27 05:37:23	cbreak	when you switch branches, git will try to change all the files in your working directory to be like the ones on that branch
2021-05-27 05:37:24	onizu	thanks
2021-05-27 05:37:44	cbreak	but if you have uncommitted changes, git can not change the file content without endangering your changes
2021-05-27 05:38:04	cbreak	so git checkout will fail (without additional options to make git kill your changes, or attempt a merge)
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2021-05-27 05:39:43	onizu	what difference does it make if I push the changes while in a branch or I push it from 'master' after merging the branch to 'master'?
2021-05-27 05:45:34	cbreak	you can push commits independently on which branch you are
2021-05-27 05:45:56	cbreak	the branch you are on only affects what's pushed by default
2021-05-27 05:47:18	cbreak	of course, merging itself can create a new commit
2021-05-27 05:48:02	onizu	ok, thanks
2021-05-27 05:49:21	onizu	what is "Fast-forward" on merging?
2021-05-27 05:49:30	canton7	!ff
2021-05-27 05:49:42	canton7	Ah, no bot
2021-05-27 05:49:48	jast	the bot has deserted us
2021-05-27 05:49:53	cbreak	it's merging without a merge commit
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2021-05-27 05:50:34	cbreak	when all branches you try to merge are direct descendants of the others, with no disjunct commit
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2021-05-27 05:51:56	canton7	Here: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/git-ffwd.pdf
2021-05-27 05:51:58	onizu	merge without commit? but I did get the commit message that I set in the branch that was to be merged
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2021-05-27 05:54:22	Rashad	hold on...
2021-05-27 05:54:31	Rashad	*wikileaks.org*???
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2021-05-27 05:54:52	canton7	The original author took down the file annoyingly, and that's the only mirror I could find
2021-05-27 05:54:57	canton7	Looking at rehosting it somewhere decent...
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2021-05-27 05:59:16	canton7	Right, I'll update the link to https://git.io/JGLZd once the bot comes back online
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2021-05-27 06:04:46	jast	the bot has... moved elsewhere
2021-05-27 06:05:42	osse	doffen har daua
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2021-05-27 06:14:14	Rashad	wikileaks acts as an archive of some sorts?
2021-05-27 06:14:30	Rashad	of things that have gone "missing" from the internet?
2021-05-27 06:14:34	Rashad	(can act*)
2021-05-27 06:15:27	canton7	No idea why the PDF was mirrored there -- I just found it in a google image search
2021-05-27 06:15:44	Rashad	ah
2021-05-27 06:16:09	canton7	I've DM'd the author of that PDF actually, to see whether he's OK with us rehosting it
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2021-05-27 07:25:07	jast	whoops, wrong place :)
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2021-05-27 10:36:32	matthewcroughan_	I can't see the staged/unstaged files in a commit I am rebasing and editing, but I expect to be able to.
2021-05-27 10:36:48	matthewcroughan_	git rebase -i HEAD~x, then I set a commit up to edit, then I expected to be able to go back there and remove files that were staged in that commit.
2021-05-27 10:37:01	matthewcroughan_	git status shows none of the staged files from that time
2021-05-27 10:38:03	@jast	if you use "edit", you're put in a situation where the commit has already happened
2021-05-27 10:38:09	@jast	you can then you a standard amend workflow
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2021-05-27 10:42:10	matthewcroughan_	jast: I expect to see the files that were added/removed/modified in this commit when I run `git status`.
2021-05-27 10:42:11	matthewcroughan_	I do not.
2021-05-27 10:42:37	@jast	yeah, because at the point the interactive rebase stops, the commit has already happened
2021-05-27 10:42:47	matthewcroughan_	so there's no way to do what I want here?
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2021-05-27 10:42:52	imMute	matthewcroughan_: as jast said, it's because the commit you marked to "edit" has already been applied.  you need to use  git commit --amend  (or the Amend Commit option in git-gui)
2021-05-27 10:43:16	osse	you can also do git reset HEAD~1 to redo the whole commit if you want
2021-05-27 10:43:27	osse	that'll give you what you expect
2021-05-27 10:43:33	canton7	You can see what the previous commit contains with e.g. 'git show HEAD' or 'git show --name-status HEAD' or some such. Or you can reset the commit away with 'git reset HEAD^', and then add stuff with 'git add' etc than re-create the commit with 'git commit'
2021-05-27 10:43:35	@jast	when doing that, personally I prefer --soft
2021-05-27 10:44:38	matthewcroughan_	imMute: In the cli, do I just remove the lines underneath "changes to be commited" to do this?
2021-05-27 10:45:00	matthewcroughan_	I thought --amend only lets you change the commit message.
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2021-05-27 10:45:20	imMute	no, you can stage more changes and those get added to the commit too
2021-05-27 10:45:28	canton7	No, --amend takes anything you've staged, and munges them together into the prevoius commit
2021-05-27 10:45:36	matthewcroughan_	yeah, but the use case here is that I added some dodgy files to that commit that I didn't want to
2021-05-27 10:45:43	matthewcroughan_	I want to get rid of those accidentally added files, from that commit
2021-05-27 10:45:55	matthewcroughan_	but I first need to see what files were added, to unstage them
2021-05-27 10:46:05	canton7	So either reset the commit away, add everything except that file, commit, throw away the unstaged changes, rebase --continue
2021-05-27 10:46:24	matthewcroughan_	If I rebase edit, and then do `git reset` it doesn't change the fact that `git status` doesn't show any files added/removed.
2021-05-27 10:46:27	canton7	or something like 'git checkout HEAD^^ -- path/to/file && git commit --amend'
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2021-05-27 10:46:53	canton7	matthewcroughan_, yes it will. If you 'edit', wait until rebase stops just AFTER the commit to edit, then reset the commit away, 'git status' will show the changes which were part of that commit
2021-05-27 10:46:59	osse	matthewcroughan_: don't leave out the stuff after 'reset'
2021-05-27 10:47:07	osse	git reset HEAD^
2021-05-27 10:47:10	imMute	personally I like using git-gui once rebase has paused for edit.  that lets you remove stuff while amending a commit and it's easy (for me anyway) to look at the diff at the same time
2021-05-27 10:47:19	matthewcroughan_	Okay. So, what should I do. https://asciinema.org/a/vPCIr9vfdz7QksjvrQ4ydm0hR
2021-05-27 10:47:23	matthewcroughan_	This is currently what I'm doing.
2021-05-27 10:47:23	canton7	Yeah, absolutely -- 'git gui' is lovely there. But one thing at a time
2021-05-27 10:47:40	canton7	matthewcroughan_, .... 'git reset HEAD^'
2021-05-27 10:47:41	canton7	yet again
2021-05-27 10:47:51	matthewcroughan_	After that asciinema, I'm in the state of "editing" the commit I want to fix. At this stage I need to run `git reset HEAD`?
2021-05-27 10:48:00	canton7	'HEAD^' with a ^
2021-05-27 10:48:11	canton7	HEAD means the current commit. HEAD^ means the parent of the current commit
2021-05-27 10:48:13	osse	also so you shave off about 0.8 seconds by just typing in 'e' instead of 'edit'
2021-05-27 10:49:06	matthewcroughan_	yeah, I just wanted to be clear. I usually do
2021-05-27 10:49:27	canton7	So to be clear: not `git reset HEAD`, you want `git reset HEAD^`
2021-05-27 10:50:18	matthewcroughan_	https://gist.githubusercontent.com/MatthewCroughan/68934d29d88de3fbeae78776aaca6b3e/raw/c974ec6776c1d0f295572269dfa83380ae2559c6/gistfile1.txt
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2021-05-27 10:50:24	matthewcroughan_	Great.. Looks like exactly what I'm after.
2021-05-27 10:50:26	@jast	though if all you want to do is remove a file, it's easier to "git rm --cached <file>; git commit --amend"
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2021-05-27 10:50:45	matthewcroughan_	jast: I don't know what files I need to remove.
2021-05-27 10:51:00	matthewcroughan_	All I know is that there's a bunch of files I added wrongly, that I do not have in my memory, that I want to inspect.
2021-05-27 10:51:17	@jast	"git show --name-status" during the edit will show you a list of everything that changed
2021-05-27 10:51:25	canton7	(I said that earlier, as well)
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2021-05-27 10:53:08	matthewcroughan_	there's way too many git commands..
2021-05-27 10:53:31	@jast	well it's great if you know what they do :)
2021-05-27 10:53:48	canton7	There aren't that many. The confusion is that they apply to operations that you're making to the underlying data structure, not to tasks which humans think about
2021-05-27 10:54:02	canton7	So if you just try and memorise which commands apply to which human tasks, you'll have a hard time
2021-05-27 10:54:25	canton7	The trick with git is that you need to be thinking in terms of what operations you're making to the underlying data structure. Once you start doing that, everything becomes remarkably simple and obvious
2021-05-27 10:54:29	matthewcroughan_	so if I do`git reset HEAD^` it's as if I went back in time and unstaged the changes, correct?
2021-05-27 10:54:34	matthewcroughan_	this is how I'm thinking of it, am I wrong to.
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2021-05-27 10:55:07	osse	it's correct enough
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2021-05-27 10:56:31	matthewcroughan_	osse: what is it actually doing?
2021-05-27 10:56:32	pcarphin	canton7 when talking about the underlying data structure, I think you are referring to what I call the graph of commits and the set of branches that point to nodes on that graph.  I ask because I don't think you are referring to the objects and blobs and stuff that one would find in the .git directory.
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2021-05-27 10:56:42	canton7	Yes. 'reset' changes what HEAD points to (and optionally throws away or keeps changes in the process, with --hard/--soft/etc). 'HEAD' points to the commit which is currently checked out. So 'reset HEAD^' changes git's record of what commit is currently checked out. So 'git reset HEAD^' tells git that you've got the previous commit checked out,
2021-05-27 10:56:42	canton7	without changing the contents of any file sin your working copy
2021-05-27 10:57:06	canton7	pcarphin, The graph structure, the index, what a branch is, what HEAD is, etc
2021-05-27 10:57:09	matthewcroughan_	if I do `git reset HEAD` during the rebase edit, it doesn't seem to do anything
2021-05-27 10:57:13	matthewcroughan_	what's happening in that case?
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2021-05-27 10:57:32	imMute	it doesn't do anything because you're telling git to move the branch to where it already is.
2021-05-27 10:57:34	osse	matthewcroughan_: since git reset changes what HEADS point to, that command is a noop
2021-05-27 10:57:39	canton7	that tells git to change HEAD to point to the thing that HEAD points to, which is a no-op. If you don't have any uncommitted changes, the behaviour of 'reset' which throws away uncommitted changes doesn't apply
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2021-05-27 10:58:19	osse	matthewcroughan_: what it's actally doing is just changing what HEAD points to. the observed effect is that a lot of files are modified, as if they were never committed
2021-05-27 10:58:26	osse	so in that sense you go back in time, yes.
2021-05-27 10:58:32	matthewcroughan_	So `HEAD` points to the thing outside the rebase?
2021-05-27 10:58:45	canton7	matthewcroughan_, you'll get a much better description from a good book or tutorial
2021-05-27 10:58:48	canton7	matthewcroughan_, !book or !bottomup
2021-05-27 10:58:48	matthewcroughan_	HEAD^ points to the commit I'm editing right now, inside the rebase?
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2021-05-27 10:59:03	osse	HEAD points to the one you're editing. HEAD^ is the previous
2021-05-27 10:59:10	canton7	HEAD is the currently-checked-out commit. HEAD^ is the parent of the currently-checked-out commit
2021-05-27 10:59:17	canton7	Argh, the bot's not here any more
2021-05-27 10:59:21	matthewcroughan_	So what's the difference between HEAD^ and HEAD~ in this context?
2021-05-27 10:59:24	osse	none
2021-05-27 10:59:25	matthewcroughan_	HEAD~1 *
2021-05-27 10:59:28	canton7	There are several good books available about git; 'Pro Git' is probably the best: http://git-scm.com/book but also look at !bottomup !cs !gcs !designers !gitt !vcbe and !parable
2021-05-27 10:59:39	canton7	'Git from the bottom up' starts with explaining the building blocks of git and proceeds to tell you how they fit together. https://jwiegley.github.io/git-from-the-bottom-up/
2021-05-27 10:59:47	canton7	Nothing. HEAD^ and HEAD~ are the same
2021-05-27 11:00:03	osse	matthewcroughan_: ~n is the nth ancestor. ^n is the nth parent. if n = 1 they're the same
2021-05-27 11:00:09	imMute	matthewcroughan_: the difference between ^ and ~ is how parents are followed.  for a single one (of either) they end up meaning the same thing.
2021-05-27 11:00:22	matthewcroughan_	How do you do +1 instead of -1 :D
2021-05-27 11:00:25	osse	only merge commit have more than one parent
2021-05-27 11:00:27	matthewcroughan_	~1 is -1, what about +1?
2021-05-27 11:00:30	canton7	You don't. Git looks backwards in time, not forwards
2021-05-27 11:00:35	matthewcroughan_	Spooky.
2021-05-27 11:01:16	canton7	HEAD^^^, HEAD~~~ and HEAD~3 are all the same thing. HEAD^3 is different
2021-05-27 11:02:10	@jast	just like the rest of us, Git can look only at the past, never at the future
2021-05-27 11:02:24	canton7	And it's not just HEAD -- you can apply those to a branch, commit, etc etc. See "SPECIFYING REVISIONS" in the git rev-parse man page: https://gitirc.eu/git-rev-parse.html
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2021-05-27 11:02:53	canton7	(and the pretty picture at the bottom of that section)
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2021-05-27 11:04:17	abhijit	Hi. is there a quick command to see if a branch1 was merged into branch2 or not? no pr on github
2021-05-27 11:05:04	osse	abhijit: several ways
2021-05-27 11:05:16	osse	abhijit: git branch --merged branch2  will list all branches merged into branch2
2021-05-27 11:05:35	osse	git merge-base --is-ancestor branch1 branch2  will check this case
2021-05-27 11:05:53	matthewcroughan_	Linus is really dark :(
2021-05-27 11:06:13	osse	Due to how commits link to eachother there is no way to link forwards
2021-05-27 11:06:14	matthewcroughan_	Why did he make this system where we're doomed to constantly re-evaluate our past mistakes and try to repair them?
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2021-05-27 11:06:40	osse	no that
2021-05-27 11:06:41	matthewcroughan_	Just ignored the buddha outright.
2021-05-27 11:06:58	abhijit	osse, ok. i will check them. thanks.
2021-05-27 11:07:20	osse	no that's just you being weak :P It's possible to do that. But it's also possible, and much easier, to just make a new commit to undo the mistake you did
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2021-05-27 11:07:54	osse	Linus ain't forcin ya to to do all this monkey business to pretend the mistake never happened
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2021-05-27 11:08:15	osse	nahmean
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2021-05-27 11:09:22	osse	abhijit: you probably want to git fetch and then do  git branch -r --merged origin/branch2  or something like that, if you want to check the status out on github
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2021-05-27 11:11:50	--	Mode #git [-o jast] by jast
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2021-05-27 11:14:14	matthewcroughan_	osse: yeah but people look at you funny if you have unclean history
2021-05-27 11:14:42	matthewcroughan_	especially when you work for a company
2021-05-27 11:15:54	cbreak	matthewcroughan_: as long as your history doesn't consist of commits with message `fix`, `stuff` and `...`, you're already not the worst
2021-05-27 11:16:09	osse	agreed
2021-05-27 11:16:16	osse	history here is pretty shitty
2021-05-27 11:16:52	matthewcroughan_	cbreak: osse: https://github.com/MatthewCroughan/nixcfg/commits/master
2021-05-27 11:17:01	matthewcroughan_	Do my commit messages here have any anti-patterns?
2021-05-27 11:17:08	matthewcroughan_	I'm actually trying in this repo.
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2021-05-27 11:17:37	osse	looks good to me
2021-05-27 11:17:47	osse	one minor nit: commit messages are usually hard wrapped
2021-05-27 11:17:51	matthewcroughan_	would you say this business of `<thing>::<scope>:` is redundant and bad since you can use `git log` and stuff
2021-05-27 11:17:59	matthewcroughan_	on files
2021-05-27 11:18:11	jast	personally I don't have a strong opinion on that
2021-05-27 11:18:31	osse	i just do "<thing or scope>: do this and that"
2021-05-27 11:18:34	osse	mostly thing
2021-05-27 11:18:37	jast	having the info in the commit message often makes the message more useful
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2021-05-27 11:18:43	cbreak	sounds like a waste of effort
2021-05-27 11:18:46	matthewcroughan_	I've taken a liking to using `&&` to signify that I'm changing multiple files in a commit, is that also a bid hipster and bad?
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2021-05-27 11:18:50	jast	but when it doesn't, I wouldn't :)
2021-05-27 11:18:53	matthewcroughan_	so `thing && thing`
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2021-05-27 11:19:04	cbreak	unless your codebase is really really big
2021-05-27 11:19:21	matthewcroughan_	cbreak: yeah but I'm actually trying, for the sake of it
2021-05-27 11:19:22	cbreak	I think having to use && in a commit message is bad
2021-05-27 11:19:32	canton7	Your commit messages are by-and-large useless, reading that list
2021-05-27 11:19:35	cbreak	that implies you have unrelated changes, you should split those into two commits
2021-05-27 11:19:36	matthewcroughan_	since this is the entire nix configuration for my whole laptop and infrastructure, it's pretty important to me :D
2021-05-27 11:19:40	matthewcroughan_	canton7: How can I improve
2021-05-27 11:19:50	matthewcroughan_	I do appreciate the bluntness LMAO
2021-05-27 11:20:10	canton7	Ones like 'set TERM=xterm-256color when ssh is used' are good -- that says what the commit does. You don't need the 'home-manager::bash:' magic there IMO
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2021-05-27 11:20:24	canton7	'update' is useless
2021-05-27 11:20:36	matthewcroughan_	https://github.com/MatthewCroughan/nixcfg/commit/bed8790594ea03885aaf1bda194886f038954039
2021-05-27 11:20:37	matthewcroughan_	and this?
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2021-05-27 11:20:46	cbreak	matthewcroughan_: I think you shouldn't try to summarize the diff. You should instead explain and motivate the changes.
2021-05-27 11:21:02	jast	well, "update" is about right, though
2021-05-27 11:21:15	canton7	https://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html is the classic
2021-05-27 11:21:27	jast	it's an update to a different external version
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2021-05-27 11:21:39	canton7	Say that in the message, then :P
2021-05-27 11:21:42	matthewcroughan_	It's just changing a hash, I can't find much more to say.
2021-05-27 11:21:53	Hash	Broi.
2021-05-27 11:21:55	matthewcroughan_	Well actually, it's not. It's doing a lot more you're right.
2021-05-27 11:21:57	Hash	For real.
2021-05-27 11:22:08	jast	something like "update to newer version" possibly :)
2021-05-27 11:22:11	matthewcroughan_	You're talking about the parsec one right? that's changing the whole file.
2021-05-27 11:22:18	matthewcroughan_	Hash: Hi. You picked a bad name.
2021-05-27 11:22:19	Hash	matthewcroughan_: I hate you.
2021-05-27 11:22:22	Hash	:(
2021-05-27 11:22:30	matthewcroughan_	I love you.
2021-05-27 11:22:31	matthewcroughan_	:)
2021-05-27 11:22:38	Hash	I'm sure there are many peole in the world who hate you
2021-05-27 11:22:46	Hash	I'm sure there are people in this room who probably hate you.
2021-05-27 11:22:49	Hash	But you know what
2021-05-27 11:22:51	Hash	I hate you the most :)
2021-05-27 11:22:57	matthewcroughan_	Buddha only waits 3 times.
2021-05-27 11:23:00	Hash	I just want you to know this!
2021-05-27 11:23:03	Hash	:D
2021-05-27 11:23:09	jast	I'm glad this community is so wholesome
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2021-05-27 11:23:11	canton7	It's not entirely fair to look at a repo which doesn't have real development in it -- there's much less going on in each commit than normal
2021-05-27 11:23:39	canton7	But like 'update config' -- why did you update it, and what improved?
2021-05-27 11:23:41	jast	yeah, with small straightforward changes, the commit message isn't that relevant
2021-05-27 11:23:54	matthewcroughan_	canton7: what commit are you referring to?
2021-05-27 11:24:05	jast	basically ask yourself: if I look at this commit message a few months from now, will it tell me what this change is about?
2021-05-27 11:24:09	canton7	The one here with the message 'update config'? https://github.com/MatthewCroughan/nixcfg/commits/master
2021-05-27 11:24:15	matthewcroughan_	flake.lock is just updating the system, it's basically the way upgrades happen in Nix.
2021-05-27 11:24:20	matthewcroughan_	like apt upgrade -y
2021-05-27 11:24:40	matthewcroughan_	OH, ly. Right..
2021-05-27 11:24:45	matthewcroughan_	That was just a hack, you're right.
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2021-05-27 11:25:05	canton7	'use letter 'n' as an alias for 'nix-shell -p'' is a good one -- that tells me what the commit does, just by looking at the title
2021-05-27 11:25:29	matthewcroughan_	Yeah, it's almost like you can see my complacency for certain things haha.
2021-05-27 11:26:20	matthewcroughan_	Okay, this is just showing off. But by far my favourite commit: https://github.com/MatthewCroughan/nixcfg/commit/de60c1c7b1212c2f2513c9c8fde85fae2bd9fa14
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2021-05-27 11:27:10	matthewcroughan_	So you can `nix build github:matthewcroughan#robotnixConfigurations.pyxis.ota.img` and the output will be a tarball you can flash via TWRP haha, it's pretty fking crazy.
2021-05-27 11:27:20	matthewcroughan_	Enough off topic from me though :P
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2021-05-27 11:29:46	matthewcroughan_	Is there a way to stash only the unstaged changes?
2021-05-27 11:30:27	matthewcroughan_	OH nvm, I just needed to restore the files as I never wanted them deleted in the first place, my bad.
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2021-05-27 11:36:04	jast	heads up, given what the freenode folks did in the past two days, the channel will likely "officially" move to libera at some point. it already exists there but we're not killing off the freenode channel yet - personally I intend to stay here, too, until this channel essentially dies out.
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2021-05-27 11:36:18	matthewcroughan_	Dying with the ship.
2021-05-27 11:36:47	matthewcroughan_	I wish I could git reset --hard ROOT and do it all over again.
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2021-05-27 11:37:18	osse	matthewcroughan_: good news, you can!
2021-05-27 11:37:19	jast	you can :) it's just slightly less easy than that
2021-05-27 11:37:27	matthewcroughan_	Oh, that was poetic.
2021-05-27 11:37:37	osse	git checkout --orphan tmp; do the needful; rename tmp to master/main
2021-05-27 11:37:37	jast	I try
2021-05-27 11:37:37	matthewcroughan_	Not intended at all to be critiqued by the likes of you.
2021-05-27 11:37:49	jast	eh
2021-05-27 11:38:03	jast	you'll find that we'll critique anything and everything
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2021-05-27 11:38:07	jast	even if nobody asked for it :)
2021-05-27 11:38:15	matthewcroughan_	Well, I actually like that, but don't tell anyone.
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2021-05-27 11:38:40	matthewcroughan_	Are we not moving to Matrix then? Only to Libera?
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2021-05-27 11:38:58	jast	well, we have all of the stuff in place for IRC, and we don't for Matrix
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2021-05-27 11:39:30	jast	there will likely be some sort of bridging at some point
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2021-05-27 11:40:08	matthewcroughan_	Welp, looks like Andy just pulled the plug on the Matrix bridge LOL
2021-05-27 11:40:14	matthewcroughan_	This guy is brutal.
2021-05-27 11:40:34	jast	what a coincidence :)
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2021-05-27 11:56:36	cbreak	matrix was ok. Too bad they never made a second part... :P
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2021-05-27 11:57:01	jast	I actually didn't think the second part was that bad
2021-05-27 11:57:15	jast	the third seemed rather more questionable to me
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2021-05-27 12:04:03	tango_	isn't libera working on a matrix bridge too?
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2021-05-27 12:49:56	humanface	hi all
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2021-05-27 12:50:46	humanface	I want to clone from a repository and it says permission denied (publickey). Fatal: could not read from remote repository
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2021-05-27 12:51:00	humanface	now I don't really want to overtime
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2021-05-27 12:51:22	humanface	how to solve this?
2021-05-27 12:51:26	--	jast has changed topic for #git from "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Freenode situation: https://git.io/JswRG -- We're monitoring it, no official move yet | First visit? https://gitirc.eu | Current stable version: 2.31.1 | Getting "cannot send to channel"? /msg gitinfo .voice | This channel is not logged anymore, old logs here: https://gitirc.eu/log" to "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | This channel is moving: https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1"
2021-05-27 12:51:41	ikke	humanface: make sure you use the right ssh key and that key has access to the repository
2021-05-27 12:51:47	@jast	humanface: this is looking like an SSH issue
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2021-05-27 12:51:55	humanface	and how to add that to cmd?
2021-05-27 12:51:59	humanface	I'm using ssh
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2021-05-27 12:52:08	jast	either you don't have the key present, or the target host doesn't know your key
2021-05-27 12:52:22	jast	you can run ssh -vv <user@host> to see what keys it's trying
2021-05-27 12:52:27	knittl	jast: how long until the channel is force-deleted after this topic change?
2021-05-27 12:52:28	humanface	well, Sourcetree knows the ssh key and that cloning is working
2021-05-27 12:52:34	jast	knittl: nobody knows...
2021-05-27 12:52:36	humanface	but I want to do this with cmd now
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2021-05-27 12:53:08	humanface	Jackneill what is user@host?
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2021-05-27 12:53:21	jast	part of your git SSH URL
2021-05-27 12:53:29	ikke	git remote -v
2021-05-27 12:53:30	Peng	jast: Nice
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2021-05-27 12:55:46	humanface	jast what does ssh -vv?
2021-05-27 12:56:05	ikke	it gives extra debug output when you run ssh
2021-05-27 12:56:11	jast	it opens an SSH connection and outputs a lot of detail about what's happening
2021-05-27 12:56:35	humanface	ok I don't have time for this...
2021-05-27 12:57:19	humanface	tomorrow I won't be available, today I already worked 9 hrs and if I don't overtime, others will be angry at me....
2021-05-27 12:57:36	humanface	but I absolutely have no idea about git commandline things
2021-05-27 12:57:47	humanface	and don't really want to read hours about this
2021-05-27 12:58:04	jast	if your repo is hosted at something like github, as a quick workaround you could use an https:// URL instead
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2021-05-27 13:04:52	humanface	thanks, it's doing something
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2021-05-27 13:06:46	Bish	if i changed a file at multiple places, is therre some way i can merge an unstaged file with the currrent verison of the file ^_^
2021-05-27 13:06:49	Bish	or am i stupid here
2021-05-27 13:07:33	knittl	Bish: merging unstaged changes can easily lead to data less
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2021-05-27 13:07:36	jast	Bish: that's not the way it's designed to work
2021-05-27 13:07:46	knittl	better to commit your unstaged changes, then merge this new commit
2021-05-27 13:07:56	jast	hm, what do you mean, "unstaged"
2021-05-27 13:08:00	jast	completely untracked?
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2021-05-27 13:08:48	jast	if you do have it tracked and basically just want to merge with some uncommitted changes, you can stash your current changes, then merge, then pop the stash
2021-05-27 13:08:50	ikke	seems like the matrix bride here is back?
2021-05-27 13:08:56	jast	yeah, seems like :)
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2021-05-27 13:09:17	Bish	jast: no, like. a tracked file
2021-05-27 13:09:26	jast	yeah, then stashing is an option
2021-05-27 13:09:38	jast	if you don't want to commit your changes just yet
2021-05-27 13:09:39	Bish	okay.. and then i can pop it, but that doesnt result in a merge
2021-05-27 13:09:54	humanface	jast git remote rm origin
2021-05-27 13:09:58	humanface	what does it do actually?
2021-05-27 13:10:18	jast	humanface: it basically makes your local repo forget where it was cloned from
2021-05-27 13:10:24	knittl	Bish: yes, it does. it merges the stashed changes into your worktree
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2021-05-27 13:10:56	humanface	jast so it won't modify the git repository at all, right?
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2021-05-27 13:11:16	ikke	a remote is just a link
2021-05-27 13:11:19	jast	only the local one, and only its config
2021-05-27 13:11:31	humanface	ok
2021-05-27 13:11:41	ikke	if you remove it, you cannot push / fetch anymore until you add a new one
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2021-05-27 13:14:02	humanface	jast I have used git remote add origin <new repo link>
2021-05-27 13:14:11	humanface	and used git push origin --all
2021-05-27 13:14:16	humanface	and it says repository not found
2021-05-27 13:14:35	knittl	humanface: is the repolink valid?
2021-05-27 13:14:39	jast	maybe a small difference in the link?
2021-05-27 13:14:47	humanface	I have copy-pasted that
2021-05-27 13:14:50	humanface	it's valid
2021-05-27 13:16:03	ikke	DId you copy the url in the url bar, or the clone link?
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2021-05-27 13:16:32	humanface	I have copied the url, so https://something.git
2021-05-27 13:16:46	humanface	it starts with https:// and it ends with .git
2021-05-27 13:16:59	ikke	That should be fine
2021-05-27 13:17:19	ikke	And the user you authenticate with has access to that repo?
2021-05-27 13:17:26	humanface	maybe the problem is that I'm using the sourcetree's git, and I wanted to push to a github repo?
2021-05-27 13:17:30	knittl	humanface: git remote -vv shows origin with the correct url?
2021-05-27 13:18:00	humanface	knittl yes, it shows the correct urls
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2021-05-27 13:18:43	knittl	humanface: and you have access to the repository?
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2021-05-27 13:18:54	humanface	knittl in browser, yes
2021-05-27 13:18:58	humanface	in here, I don't know
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2021-05-27 13:19:27	knittl	a repository cannot (usually) be browsed in a browser. what is "in here"?
2021-05-27 13:19:32	jast	sometimes the browser URL isn't the same as the git URL
2021-05-27 13:19:37	jast	depends on the hosting platform, though
2021-05-27 13:19:50	humanface	knittl browsing github in a browser shows me the correct repo
2021-05-27 13:20:00	humanface	in command line, I don't know what are my actual credentials
2021-05-27 13:20:17	humanface	jast I know, I'm using the .git ending url
2021-05-27 13:20:34	jast	which you don't even need to on github, but both work :)
2021-05-27 13:20:40	knittl	github shows you a view of the repository through the github GUI, not the actual repository
2021-05-27 13:20:44	jast	so I'm guessing it's a private repository
2021-05-27 13:20:57	humanface	yes, it's a private repository
2021-05-27 13:21:08	jast	you may want to include your username in the URL (https://you@github.com/...) so that git will know to prompt you for authentication
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2021-05-27 13:21:19	jast	github pretends that the repo doesn't exist if you're an anonymous user
2021-05-27 13:21:20	humanface	ah, ok
2021-05-27 13:21:21	humanface	trying that
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2021-05-27 13:21:49	humanface	jast so if I used git remote add origin https:// ... .git, then should I remove this somehow?
2021-05-27 13:22:02	humanface	or just use git remote add origin with the new link?
2021-05-27 13:22:03	knittl	jast: humanface: but github should include all the required information in the clone link already (the big green button that says "clone repo…")
2021-05-27 13:22:04	jast	you can change the URL instead of removing and re-adding
2021-05-27 13:22:07	jast	git remote set-url origin ...
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2021-05-27 13:22:38	jast	knittl: it doesn't do that for the HTTPS URL, it never contains a username
2021-05-27 13:23:06	knittl	interesting. but then it shouldn't require the name as part of the url
2021-05-27 13:23:06	jast	at least it doesn't in the private repos that I have access to :)
2021-05-27 13:23:15	humanface	jast set-url what?
2021-05-27 13:23:22	jast	technically it doesn't "require" the name
2021-05-27 13:23:42	jast	but if github tells git that the repo doesn't exist, git won't prompt for auth on the off chance that it's a private repo :)
2021-05-27 13:24:09	humanface	ok, so what to do? how to use set-url?
2021-05-27 13:24:30	jast	it's not that hard. man git-remote
2021-05-27 13:24:33	jast	whoops
2021-05-27 13:24:39	jast	https://gitirc.eu/git-remote.html
2021-05-27 13:24:50	jast	this is going to take some getting used to. fortunately I won't have to get used to it for long
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2021-05-27 13:24:55	ikke	ha!
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2021-05-27 13:25:20	humanface	jast but I don't want to get used to that today...
2021-05-27 13:25:25	humanface	I just want to know how to use this
2021-05-27 13:25:30	jast	I was talking about a different thing
2021-05-27 13:25:36	humanface	oh ok
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2021-05-27 13:25:46	humanface	so what will be the parameter of set-url?
2021-05-27 13:25:50	jast	the new URL
2021-05-27 13:25:56	humanface	because as i see, it's just for push and add and delete
2021-05-27 13:26:04	jast	no, "set-url" is one of the subcommands
2021-05-27 13:26:27	jast	unless you're on a super old version of git
2021-05-27 13:27:00	humanface	I don't know
2021-05-27 13:27:06	humanface	it throws error if I just use an url
2021-05-27 13:27:13	knittl	"git version" …
2021-05-27 13:27:25	humanface	2.30.0.windows.2
2021-05-27 13:27:31	jast	well, unless you forgot the "origin" argument, that's all I can think of
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2021-05-27 13:29:12	humanface	repository still not found
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2021-05-27 13:29:22	humanface	I could change the url
2021-05-27 13:29:43	humanface	so the git remote -vv shows me the urls with the https://username@url.git
2021-05-27 13:29:52	humanface	but still can't push
2021-05-27 13:30:13	humanface	jast how to change the authentication?
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2021-05-27 13:30:25	jast	hmm, I think there was some kind of trick, trying to remember the specifics
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2021-05-27 13:30:48	knittl	humanface: you can also try git push -v … to enable verbose mode. maybe it tells you more?
2021-05-27 13:30:52	jast	just to check: git did not prompt you for a password when you tried pushing this time?
2021-05-27 13:31:30	humanface	no
2021-05-27 13:31:33	jast	try this: git config credential.username (your username)
2021-05-27 13:31:38	humanface	it didn't prompt me a password
2021-05-27 13:31:58	jast	as a separate argument, that is, the "credential.username" is literal :)
2021-05-27 13:32:33	humanface	I wrote git config credential.myusername
2021-05-27 13:32:42	humanface	i wrote git config credential.username myusername
2021-05-27 13:32:53	humanface	i wrote git config credential.username (myusername)
2021-05-27 13:32:54	humanface	nothing
2021-05-27 13:33:03	humanface	it just gave back the prompt
2021-05-27 13:33:11	humanface	I don't know if anything happened or not
2021-05-27 13:33:23	knittl	of course you have to push again after configuring your username
2021-05-27 13:33:23	jast	the second version is correct
2021-05-27 13:33:28	jast	do that again, then try the push again
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2021-05-27 13:34:01	humanface	not asking password, just saying repository not found
2021-05-27 13:34:19	knittl	have you tried running with -v switch?
2021-05-27 13:34:44	jast	very strange. in fact git prompts me for a username even if I do none of this stuff
2021-05-27 13:34:47	humanface	yes, git push origin --all -v
2021-05-27 13:34:57	humanface	and it says "pusing to url" as an extra
2021-05-27 13:35:03	humanface	nothing else
2021-05-27 13:35:11	knittl	with the url?
2021-05-27 13:35:15	humanface	yes
2021-05-27 13:35:15	jast	it only stops prompting me if my URL is incorrect (e.g. if I leave out the user/org namespace or something like that)
2021-05-27 13:35:45	humanface	I don't know what can be bad with a .git url
2021-05-27 13:35:53	jast	% git clone https://github.com/foo/bar.git
2021-05-27 13:36:22	humanface	https://imgur.com/a/2X7vEZ1
2021-05-27 13:36:23	jast	shows the username/password prompts for me
2021-05-27 13:36:26	humanface	I have copied this out
2021-05-27 13:36:30	humanface	this is the url I'm using
2021-05-27 13:37:57	humanface	cloning also says repo not found
2021-05-27 13:38:08	humanface	I'm trying to clone this with sourcetree for the first time
2021-05-27 13:38:14	jast	hmm, I have no idea what's going on there
2021-05-27 13:38:55	humanface	Sourcetree recognised that at the first moment
2021-05-27 13:39:09	humanface	but cmd can't
2021-05-27 13:39:10	jast	in fact on Windows, with a made up repo name, I even get a pop-up where it asks me to sign in to GitHub via a browser
2021-05-27 13:39:30	jast	exact same version
2021-05-27 13:39:34	cousteau	Have you tried with another repo?
2021-05-27 13:39:53	humanface	yes
2021-05-27 13:40:02	humanface	it was not on github
2021-05-27 13:40:04	humanface	and it worked well
2021-05-27 13:40:11	humanface	I could clone that with command line git
2021-05-27 13:40:11	cousteau	If you did and it doesn't work either then... oh never mind then
2021-05-27 13:40:18	humanface	but for this github repo, I can't clone that
2021-05-27 13:40:25	knittl	try another repo from github
2021-05-27 13:40:29	knittl	a public one
2021-05-27 13:40:39	jast	try cloning, say, https://github/jast/doesnotexist
2021-05-27 13:40:51	jast	https://github.com/jast/doesnotexist - my bad :)
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2021-05-27 13:40:55	cousteau	Oh yes, I meant another repo on github
2021-05-27 13:41:17	jast	does it ask for a username?
2021-05-27 13:41:33	cousteau	One that exists and also one that doesn't, as jast suggested
2021-05-27 13:42:17	humanface	tried to clone my other github repo
2021-05-27 13:42:22	humanface	and it asks for username and password
2021-05-27 13:43:19	jast	hmm
2021-05-27 13:43:31	cousteau	What git version do you have?
2021-05-27 13:43:34	jast	maybe there's something wrong with your private repo, you may have to get in touch with github's support
2021-05-27 13:43:43	jast	we already checked that, 2.30.0 on windows
2021-05-27 13:43:48	cousteau	Did you try cloning the ssh instead of the https?
2021-05-27 13:43:49	cousteau	Oh
2021-05-27 13:43:53	cousteau	Proxy?
2021-05-27 13:43:56	jast	that's what we started out with
2021-05-27 13:44:04	jast	but we didn't want to get into key setup and all that :)
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2021-05-27 13:44:25	cousteau	Shouldn't be needed for cloning, right?  Is it a public repo?
2021-05-27 13:44:27	jast	but yeah, if it works on other repos but not this one, I think there's something broken
2021-05-27 13:44:30	jast	no
2021-05-27 13:44:34	cousteau	Oh
2021-05-27 13:44:35	jast	you could just read up, you know :)
2021-05-27 13:44:42	cousteau	Never!
2021-05-27 13:44:44	cousteau	Ok
2021-05-27 13:45:04	humanface	cousteau it's a private repo
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2021-05-27 13:45:12	cousteau	Yeah I hadn't joined yet
2021-05-27 13:45:21	humanface	jast I could clone this to an empty directory
2021-05-27 13:45:38	humanface	and it asked my username and password
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2021-05-27 13:46:03	jast	yeah, if this one repo of yours is the only one it doesn't work with, I think you'll have to contact github's support
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2021-05-27 13:46:16	cousteau	I set up a key on Windows, it wasn't too hard
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2021-05-27 13:46:35	jast	if the repo is empty, you could also try deleting and re-creating it
2021-05-27 13:46:42	humanface	jast I don't think github support could help
2021-05-27 13:46:46	humanface	or could help only days later
2021-05-27 13:47:12	humanface	jast I'm telling you what I tried to do
2021-05-27 13:47:18	humanface	https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/git-move-repository
2021-05-27 13:47:19	humanface	this
2021-05-27 13:47:29	humanface	and it stucked at the push origin -all part
2021-05-27 13:47:43	humanface	from this, maybe you could figure out what is the issue
2021-05-27 13:47:46	jast	yeah. your github repo is empty so far, yes?
2021-05-27 13:47:52	humanface	jast yes
2021-05-27 13:48:01	jast	try deleting it via the github web interface, and creating it again
2021-05-27 13:48:05	jast	I think it's broken somehow
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2021-05-27 13:49:13	jast	if that doesn't help, I don't have any more ideas, sorry
2021-05-27 13:49:35	humanface	jast I could push a txt to that
2021-05-27 13:49:38	humanface	with sourcetree
2021-05-27 13:49:49	humanface	but I can't with this repository moving pushing thing
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2021-05-27 13:50:00	humanface	I have no experience with moving a full repo to a new one
2021-05-27 13:50:20	jast	normally it's quite straightforward :/
2021-05-27 13:50:42	humanface	the problem is that now I want to copy-paste a full repo into there
2021-05-27 13:50:52	humanface	with all the existing commits
2021-05-27 13:51:09	humanface	so I believe it's not a "normal" push
2021-05-27 13:51:18	humanface	that's why it drops me these issues
2021-05-27 13:51:21	humanface	I don't know
2021-05-27 13:51:23	jast	from git's perspective, it's quite normal
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2021-05-27 23:44:42	Dotz0cat	I am working on a repo that is synced with github. I am checked out in a branch. Say I open a PR and merge the branches on github's end. How would I bring the local repo to the same state?
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2021-05-28 03:58:39	--	jast has changed topic for #git from "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | This channel is moving: https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1" to "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Consequences of the "freenode situation": https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1"
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2021-05-28 04:00:35	Peng	Somehow I had missed or blocked out the "illness" line, mega yikes
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2021-05-28 04:04:47	jast	it's basically the pinnacle of his argument :)
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2021-05-28 04:06:46	osse	context?
2021-05-28 04:06:55	j416	the link in the topic
2021-05-28 04:07:25	j416	also, what's the backstory of us staying?
2021-05-28 04:07:45	jast	let's say I'm not forcing anyone to stay
2021-05-28 04:07:57	j416	ah, mailinglist; should have read the other channel.
2021-05-28 04:07:59	jast	but the consensus on the mailing list seemed to be that we should allow both channels to co-exist
2021-05-28 04:08:10	j416	too bad :/
2021-05-28 04:08:56	osse	r/maliciouscompliance  - Us just leaving doesn't technically deny this channel's existence
2021-05-28 04:09:11	jast	yeah, I don't think it's a great idea, but I can accept being overruled. of course if people wanted to chime in and provide their own perspective, I couldn't stop them. :-)
2021-05-28 04:09:19	canton7	jast, topic++
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2021-05-28 04:10:00	canton7	Also, saying that we're leaving means we could be facing the banhammer ^^
2021-05-28 04:10:16	jast	yeah
2021-05-28 04:10:31	jast	I don't mind taking that chance :)
2021-05-28 04:10:39	j416	^
2021-05-28 04:10:55	jast	I responded again to the list to correct some false impressions of the situation
2021-05-28 04:11:10	Shentino	You know what canton7?  If that's the case then whoever is wielding said hammer doesn't deserve to be our host in the first place
2021-05-28 04:11:16	jast	https://public-inbox.org/git/YK6o%2Fj7P0JIGW0Q0@alpha/T/#m3d63d2ae14de640bd7d500171594d8d20cd0356d
2021-05-28 04:11:23	j416	thanks
2021-05-28 04:11:27	jast	Shentino: yeah, that's precisely my view
2021-05-28 04:11:52	jast	I've already made the decision to be less active here at the very least
2021-05-28 04:12:01	Shentino	Infringing the sovereignty a project has over its channel space is a major breach of trust
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2021-05-28 04:12:52	jast	and I don't want to overstate my importance because the success of #git has always been due to all of the wonderful people spending their time helping others and making this feel like a cozy place...
2021-05-28 04:13:21	jast	I'm still the one who has been keeping an eye on things and promoted people to the "team" (which is a bit of an overstatement considering that the ops hardly ever do anything)
2021-05-28 04:13:28	Shentino	I don't care who is running freenode
2021-05-28 04:13:43	jast	same
2021-05-28 04:13:44	Shentino	as long as they don't betray their mission
2021-05-28 04:14:21	Shentino	and if the real owner let the domain name slip away, that's on them for being asleep at the wheel.  Not covering your ass is just BEGGING for murphy to bite it
2021-05-28 04:14:39	Shentino	The fox that raids the henhouse can often credit the guard dog as an accessory
2021-05-28 04:14:56	jast	allegedly a previous head of staff sold the whole package without being entirely transparent about it
2021-05-28 04:15:03	jast	but I don't know the specifics and I can't tell if this is accurate
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2021-05-28 04:15:57	Shentino	well someone either screwed up or betrayed us
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2021-05-28 04:16:06	Shentino	either way, whoever is at the wheel right now doesn't know how to freaking drive
2021-05-28 04:16:19	jast	and generally I'm all about equal opportunities in mistrusting people who run IRC networks
2021-05-28 04:17:04	jast	I don't "trust" Libera folks either but so far at least they haven't demonstrated any willingness to screw up perfectly fine projects
2021-05-28 04:17:59	canton7	the plain fact of the matter is that without the bot here, I'm somewhat disinclined to help people on freenode. Copy/pasting messages from gitirc.eu isn't quite as efficient :P
2021-05-28 04:18:15	jast	unfortunately it's too hard running it in both places at once
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2021-05-28 04:18:21	jast	the source code is out there if anyone is so inclined
2021-05-28 04:18:45	canton7	The emphasis is more in the opposite direction: I'll be prompting people to move to libera because it's easier to help them there :)
2021-05-28 04:18:54	jast	though I updated it yesterday for compatibility with libera and you'd have to go with the older version
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2021-05-28 04:19:28	canton7	Less "grr you've made it hard on here", more "Libera is easier than here, so I'll prompt people wanting help to go there"
2021-05-28 04:19:32	jast	yeah, I mean, if anyone wants to recommend that people move to libera, that's fair as far as I'm concerned :)
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2021-05-28 04:20:02	canton7	and that's a vanilla non-political line: it's just that the bot makes life easier there
2021-05-28 04:20:46	cbreak	people will have to type man gitrevisions and so on themselves. The horror :)
2021-05-28 04:20:56	jast	literally unusable!
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2021-05-28 04:21:05	canton7	We can't force our users to do that
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2021-05-28 04:21:35	cbreak	Yeah. We need a git man-page screensaver. Matrix style.
2021-05-28 04:21:45	jast	using git-manpage-generator?
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2021-05-28 04:22:23	canton7	You can upload custom files to https://hackertyper.net/ ...
2021-05-28 04:23:56	Shentino	Bottom line, network administration has no business interfering with channel affairs
2021-05-28 04:24:02	j416	with 700 here and 300 on the other network, I wouldn't be surprised if half of us here are lingering only to see how events unfold but without much interest to stick around indefinitely (that'd be me), and the other half are idlers that don't frequent the channel and may be don't even know about recent events. Just speculation on my part, of course. Point being, I think we've pretty much already migrated. What
2021-05-28 04:24:02	j416	worries me a bit then is who will stick around here to keep this channel sane. We do have quite the list of ops here; I wonder if we should make an effort to find people who intend on staying, and hand over the wheel to them.
2021-05-28 04:24:15	Shentino	and if some project wants to migrate the network can kindly stay the hell out of the way and respect their autonomy.
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2021-05-28 04:25:29	jast	I'll keep monitoring the situation here
2021-05-28 04:26:17	jast	if there are any baseline sensible people who want to keep things going here, I'll give them the ability to do so
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2021-05-28 04:29:11	cbreak	for now I've added both networks to znc, and am using both. Not much effort ... for now... :)
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2021-05-28 04:30:43	canton7	I suspect most of the 700 are idling, and haven't looked at the channel (or even freenode) in months
2021-05-28 04:30:43	wallbroken	well, i need to rename a branch but i'm afraid of breaking something
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2021-05-28 04:32:26	jast	wallbroken: generally there's no problem with renaming branches, though if you've already pushed it with the old name and other people have it under the old name, too, it can be a little annoying in practice
2021-05-28 04:33:31	j416	we should of course honour whatever consensus the mailing list discussion reaches. Thanks a lot, jast, for the effort. I just hope they understand the situation.
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2021-05-28 04:34:11	jast	if my explanation so far isn't enough, I doubt anything will be :)
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2021-05-28 04:50:34	jjakob	how do I show also commits from other branches that were merged in?
2021-05-28 04:50:53	jjakob	git show HEAD shows the merge commit, so do HEAD~ and so on
2021-05-28 04:51:10	jjakob	I want to see the commits that were merged in
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2021-05-28 04:56:12	jast	jjakob: "git show" is designed to show one commit only
2021-05-28 04:56:41	jjakob	yep
2021-05-28 04:57:00	jast	a merge commit is a commit with two (or more, in rare cases) parents. the first parent points to what was in the target branch
2021-05-28 04:57:01	jjakob	I found that show -m shows the diff of the merge
2021-05-28 04:57:15	jast	so if you want to see the commit log of what was merged in, git log HEAD^2 (second parent) will do it
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2021-05-28 04:58:04	osse	useful to see merged-in stuff: git log foo^-1
2021-05-28 04:58:23	osse	shorthand for git log foo^1..foo
2021-05-28 04:58:35	jast	huh, I didn't know that one :)
2021-05-28 04:59:17	jjakob	cool, thanks
2021-05-28 04:59:33	jjakob	I already found some article explaining it
2021-05-28 04:59:59	jast	the reference of this funky syntax is in "man gitrevisions"
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2021-05-28 05:17:47	j416	didn't either; thanks. apparently you can shorten it to foo^-
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2021-05-28 06:01:17	CustosLimen	IMO .gitignore should not contain IDE specifc things, IDE specific stuff should go to ~/.gitignore_global - is there some place where this convention is documented?
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2021-05-28 06:06:40	jast	CustosLimen: well no... ~/.gitignore_global isn't even consulted by default
2021-05-28 06:06:51	CustosLimen	Hmm
2021-05-28 06:06:59	CustosLimen	:/
2021-05-28 06:07:06	jast	if you want custom excludes on a per-repo basis, you can put them in .git/info/exclude
2021-05-28 06:07:24	jast	otherwise you have to set git's `core.excludesFile` setting to a path of your choice
2021-05-28 06:07:44	jast	another interesting option is setting up .gitignore files in projects to work more like a whitelist
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2021-05-28 06:08:04	jast	i.e. ignoring '*' and then unignoring, using '!' patterns, precisely the files you want tracked
2021-05-28 06:08:38	jast	the general conventions are in "man gitignore"
2021-05-28 06:09:04	nedbat	CustosLimen: you can set a global ignore file for yourself, which is all that matters: [core]excludesfile = ~/.gitignore_global
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2021-05-28 06:17:14	CustosLimen	nedbat: yes I did that but forgot that it is not default behjaviour
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2021-05-28 06:39:32	osse	$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/git/ignore is default
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2021-05-28 06:50:34	jast	oh yeah, I forgot about that
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2021-05-28 07:44:30	CustosLimen	osse: TIL
2021-05-28 07:44:35	CustosLimen	🥳
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2021-05-28 08:26:53	CalimeroTeknik	consider having a read at the topic and perhaps leaving freenode to its own devices, everyone
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2021-05-28 08:48:48	jla	heya, ... how can i discard changes in a given folder ?
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2021-05-28 08:49:47	osse	jla: Uncommitted?
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2021-05-28 08:51:04	canton7	jla, 'git status' reminds you which commands to use btw
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2021-05-28 08:55:07	jla	yeah uncommited... let's see 'git status' ...
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2021-05-28 08:56:22	jla	being pages/ the directory to keep untouched ... i may  'git restore pages/ ' , that's my guess
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2021-05-28 08:57:45	jla	uh ... but they keep bein (red) marked as 'untracked'
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2021-05-28 08:59:44	jla	in another words... how to drop changes on (red) marked as 'untracked' files ?
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2021-05-28 09:00:33	 *	jla maybe  missed the --staged flag
2021-05-28 09:02:04	jla	oke ... 'git clean '... perhaps
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2021-05-28 09:15:55	osse	jla: yeah git doesn't directly deal with untracked files
2021-05-28 09:16:04	osse	jla: there is git clean (kinda like make clean)
2021-05-28 09:16:14	osse	other than that, remove files the way you usually remove files
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2021-05-28 09:19:06	jla	thX osse
2021-05-28 09:19:21	jla	used 'git clean '... made the job
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2021-05-28 13:14:58	monk12	Hey all, I had multiple githubs setup in my ~/.ssh/config (company account vs personal account)... it was working but suddenly "git clone git@github-myhostlabel:blah/my_proj.git" seems to give me a 'Cloning into my_proj... Unable to open connection. Host does not exist. fatal: could not open remote repository'....     yet  "ssh -T git@github-myhostlabel" works (says "Hi UserName! You've successfully authenticated..."
2021-05-28 13:18:45	monk12	Any things for me to try to debug why git can't connect?
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2021-05-28 14:16:41	PenguinMan98	What might be the cause? I create a branch from another branch, add a few commits, and then go into the original branch and try to squash commit merge the commits from my branch but instead of just having the 2-3 commits I made, it also picks up the 20-30 commits that I didn't do that came before.
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2021-05-28 14:18:11	nedbat	monk12, PenguinMan98: most people have moved to іrс.lіbеrа.сhаt
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2021-05-28 14:18:42	PenguinMan98	I hope that's not a spamvert
2021-05-28 14:19:07	PenguinMan98	It doesn't load
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2021-05-28 14:22:38	nedbat	PenguinMan98: sorry, i used some unicode trickiness.  type that address again using ascii
2021-05-28 14:22:51	nedbat	PenguinMan98: or just libera.chaat
2021-05-28 14:22:53	nedbat	PenguinMan98: or just libera.chat
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2021-05-28 14:23:05	PenguinMan98	I did type it in manually. I'm not dumb enough to copy/paste from a webchat
2021-05-28 14:23:15	PenguinMan98	(usually)
2021-05-28 14:23:43	PenguinMan98	libera.chat does come up
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2021-05-28 14:34:27	PenguinMan98	But I can't log in
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2021-05-28 14:42:54	merpy	So, what can you do if you want to apply two stashes, but you get "Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge." when you attempt to apply one on top of the other?
2021-05-28 14:43:41	PenguinMan98	Apply the first one, commit it, and then apply the second
2021-05-28 14:44:27	PenguinMan98	If you don't like that, then you could create branches for each applied change and then merge them
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2021-05-28 14:44:58	PenguinMan98	It'd be much the same though, but easier to switch between the two stashed changsets
2021-05-28 14:45:28	merpy	Ok, thanks.
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2021-05-28 15:29:52	freecuck	Hello cuckfuckers! :D where y'all at, fags!
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2021-05-28 15:31:07	Peng	Would you mind trolling freenode without using slurs?
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2021-05-28 15:34:16	freecuck	Peng, fag does also mean wuss which isn't a slur.
2021-05-28 15:34:32	freecuck	Don't be a wuss.
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2021-05-28 15:37:24	monk12	FYI I figured out my issue. looks like i needed GIT_SSH_COMMAND... as maybe cygwin was using Window's git which i guess got confused which SSH to use. (I only have one ssh installed I think as 'which ssh' be4 or after my ENV change returns same result ... but it works so whatever :) )
2021-05-28 15:38:05	monk12	really people moved to  іrс.lіbеrа.сhаt ? i thought freenode was the place to be :). so many peeps in here.
2021-05-28 15:38:16	freecuck	Freetroll managements. Daddy Andrew isn't home. Have a line of coke you pool pooper!
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2021-05-28 15:39:49	nedbat	monk12: many people have chose іrс.lіbеrа.сhаt, yes
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2021-05-28 15:40:52	freecuck	ANYONE WANNA EAT MY ASS?
2021-05-28 15:41:36	nedbat	freecuck: choose your network, and let it be
2021-05-28 15:41:45	oxek	nedbat: don't engage them
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2021-05-28 15:44:06	monk12	did they leave to liberia.chat cause people like 'freecuck' showed up more often here? can't ban them?
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2021-05-28 15:45:36	oxek	"they"?
2021-05-28 15:45:54	oxek	also we can ban trolls, but it is easier if people just /ignore them
2021-05-28 15:46:44	monk12	@oxek: sounded like there was a massive migration of people to the other network, and I was just curious why.
2021-05-28 15:47:00	monk12	(i mean there are still alot of people in this channel so was curious)
2021-05-28 15:48:18	oxek	monk12: some info in /topic
2021-05-28 15:48:36	oxek	the people in this channel are just zombies
2021-05-28 15:48:44	monk12	oh gotcha, ill take a read.
2021-05-28 15:49:08	oxek	or well, most of the people in this channel are zombies
2021-05-28 15:49:30	oxek	some of us remain to prompt people to move, since there's much better support over at the other network
2021-05-28 15:52:20	monk12	Gotcha, just read it. thanks for the info.
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2021-05-28 17:16:10	socal_13	what is diff #git and #github ?
2021-05-28 17:16:48	vdamewood	Git ia a program that manages source code. Github is a website for hosting content using this software's interface.
2021-05-28 17:17:34	socal_13	Thanks but I meant the IRC channels
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2021-05-28 17:17:43	vdamewood	One is for git, and one is for github.
2021-05-28 17:18:01	socal_13	git outta here!
2021-05-28 17:19:31	vdamewood	Glad to help.
2021-05-28 17:20:35	nedbat	btw, it's fine to ask about github in #git
2021-05-28 17:22:41	socal_13	well let's git to gittin
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2021-05-28 17:25:11	nedbat	socal_13: sure, but at іrс.lіbеrа.сhаt mostly
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2021-05-28 22:39:40	hrtk	Hello, I've been trying to use mutt as my `git send-email` program. I've set [sendmail] smtpServer = /usr/bin/mutt but it appears to be crashing before sending any mail. Is this the correct way to invoke mutt from git ?
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2021-05-28 22:41:26	Guest81723	first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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2021-05-29 11:50:51	jast	too bad the ircd and services don't provide filters/kick based on pattern matching on chat messages
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2021-05-29 11:51:18	jast	lovely...
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2021-05-29 11:54:58	@jast	I'll try setting something up later
2021-05-29 11:55:20	@cbreak	not sure ...
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2021-05-29 11:56:16	@jast	I guess that's an option
2021-05-29 11:56:28	@cbreak	sledgehammer approach :/
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2021-05-29 11:56:37	@cbreak	not sure if the spammers are registered
2021-05-29 11:57:27	@jast	hopefully they're not
2021-05-29 11:57:39	@jast	let's make it slightly less punishing
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2021-05-29 11:58:40	--	jast has changed topic for #git from "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Consequences of the "freenode situation": https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1" to "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Consequences of the "freenode situation": https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1 | Because of spam, currently your nick needs to be registered if you want to talk. Sorry!"
2021-05-29 11:58:58	@jast	back later
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2021-05-29 12:02:47	oxek	could just forward to #unregistered , however do we really want people to start registering on a network that we're moving away from?
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2021-05-29 12:07:39	@cbreak	what does $~a do?
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2021-05-29 12:08:01	oxek	negates $a
2021-05-29 12:08:19	oxek	/quote HELP extban
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2021-05-29 12:08:31	cbreak	so it prevents talking
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2021-05-29 12:08:59	BinGOs	it matches any user who isn't identified with services
2021-05-29 12:09:05	oxek	`+q $~a` makes it so that people who are not logged in are quieted
2021-05-29 12:10:46	BinGOs	as these spambots work off the channel list returned by LIST +s will also stop them finding the channel.
2021-05-29 12:11:47	oxek	the spambots are also not using TLS, so +S helps too in times of need
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2021-05-29 14:04:43	bj_penn_	any idea why one would do a git fetch with the --no-tags option?
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2021-05-29 14:05:00	bj_penn_	reason why i ask is because i see a lot of scripts where --no-tags is specified
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2021-05-29 14:05:08	bj_penn_	but cant figure out any good reason why
2021-05-29 14:05:24	bj_penn_	what's a typical/common use case why one would want to do it?
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2021-05-29 14:05:42	horribleprogram	hey guys
2021-05-29 14:05:52	horribleprogram	I'm trying to download the new Unreal Engine 5 source to build
2021-05-29 14:06:07	horribleprogram	the problem is it's a 10GB+ repo, so after about 30 minutes it just gives up
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2021-05-29 14:06:35	horribleprogram	I know about certain options like --depth 1 and whatnot to reduce the size of the clone
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2021-05-29 14:06:46	horribleprogram	but what do u guys suggest?
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2021-05-29 14:07:27	horribleprogram	what's weird is that it goes through the entire process, after 30 mins or so it finishes resolving deltas... then ls only shows .git
2021-05-29 14:07:36	horribleprogram	an empty repo
2021-05-29 14:07:54	horribleprogram	actually the .git/ has some packs
2021-05-29 14:08:35	jinsun	horribleprogram: the checkout happens at the end after everything is downloaded to .git
2021-05-29 14:09:44	horribleprogram	jinsun: even after the resolving deltas
2021-05-29 14:09:45	jinsun	I think --depth=1 is the right choice if you don't care about the history and just want to build the latest version
2021-05-29 14:09:49	horribleprogram	yes
2021-05-29 14:09:51	horribleprogram	I'll try that
2021-05-29 14:10:05	horribleprogram	but it receives the objects, resolves delatas, and finishes
2021-05-29 14:10:19	horribleprogram	but after all that, it's an empty repo
2021-05-29 14:10:20	horribleprogram	lol
2021-05-29 14:10:23	horribleprogram	i'll try --depth 1
2021-05-29 14:10:27	horribleprogram	ahh --depth=1
2021-05-29 14:10:28	horribleprogram	ty
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2021-05-29 15:40:37	xD_	xD
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2021-05-29 15:56:00	--	Mode #git [+o jast] by ChanServ
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2021-05-29 15:56:09	@jast	whoops
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2021-05-29 15:57:54	oxek	are we a secret society now?
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2021-05-29 15:58:11	@jast	it's to avoid being seen by spam bots
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2021-05-29 15:58:44	jast	actually we might even try going without the register restriction again and see if that works out
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2021-05-30 04:21:28	guy_frm_yogaland	hello
2021-05-30 04:21:47	guy_frm_yogaland	I am new to web dev and new to git
2021-05-30 04:21:54	guy_frm_yogaland	can I ask a query?
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2021-05-30 04:26:24	oxek	guy_frm_yogaland: try asking in the main channel
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2021-05-30 04:34:09	guy_frm_yogaland	which main channel?
2021-05-30 04:34:26	oxek	guy_frm_yogaland: read /topic about the freenode situation
2021-05-30 04:42:57	guy_frm_yogaland	i am currently working on dev3 and other developer working on dev2
2021-05-30 04:43:22	guy_frm_yogaland	now, The other developer already made one more commit in dev2 - How can I update my dev3?
2021-05-30 04:43:26	guy_frm_yogaland	 After I updated dev3, how can I add my changes to dev2?
2021-05-30 04:43:41	guy_frm_yogaland	After both our changes are in dev2 and the work is complete, how can we add the changes to master?
2021-05-30 04:44:25	guy_frm_yogaland	please help
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2021-05-30 06:03:02	pcarphin	git checkout dev2 ; git merge dev3 (merges the commit you specify into the branch you are on, now dev2 has the changes from dev3.)
2021-05-30 06:03:02	pcarphin	git checkout master ; git merge dev2 (merges the changes from dev2 (which now include dev3 into master)
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2021-05-30 06:05:33	pcarphin	But you wouldn't want to apply this blindly as a recipe.  I recommend, especially if you are new to git, to always have `gitk --all` goin while you're doing git stuff.  Look at it, refer to it while doing git commands, try to anticipate how your command will change what it shows, do the git command, reload gitk, and check if your prediction was
2021-05-30 06:05:33	pcarphin	right.  This my recipe to skyrocket your git understanding.
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2021-05-30 06:42:56	bonhoeffer	after i fix all merge conflicts what is next -- i am trying to merge an experimental branch back into master
2021-05-30 06:43:44	bonhoeffer	i'm on master now, and got "Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result." so i think i should commit and then merge again
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2021-05-30 14:58:33	Bilge	Why do I always get `fatal: ambiguous argument` with `git log 3col`, or any branch that starts with a number? It works for alphabetic branch names, but not branches that start with a number...
2021-05-30 14:59:33	oxek	Bilge: this channel is very inactive, read /topic if you need help
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2021-05-30 15:00:31	Bilge	OK that's cool
2021-05-30 15:00:39	tango_	see you there ;-)
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2021-05-30 15:24:18	humanface	hi all
2021-05-30 15:24:31	humanface	I used git remote add origin previously
2021-05-30 15:24:35	humanface	and I want to change the url
2021-05-30 15:24:37	humanface	how to do that?
2021-05-30 15:24:41	oxek	uhh, where did you get that face?
2021-05-30 15:24:59	oxek	also, read /topic regarding the freenode situation, this channel is mostly inactive
2021-05-30 15:25:15	Lumpio-	Check out "git remote set-url"
2021-05-30 15:26:07	humanface	Lumpio- yes, and that doesn't work
2021-05-30 15:26:09	humanface	out of the box
2021-05-30 15:26:22	humanface	is it git remote set-url --delete?
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2021-05-30 15:26:28	vdamewood	The freenode situation? The great netsplit?
2021-05-30 15:26:29	humanface	it asks a name or soemthing like that
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2021-05-30 15:28:00	humanface	Lumpio- can you help me?
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2021-05-30 15:28:36	Lumpio-	How does it "not work"
2021-05-30 15:28:43	humanface	I don't know how to use this
2021-05-30 15:28:44	Lumpio-	It's not --delete if you want to set the URL
2021-05-30 15:28:50	humanface	you said git remote set-url
2021-05-30 15:28:56	humanface	if I write that, it doesn't work
2021-05-30 15:29:08	Lumpio-	Did you read the manual page for it?
2021-05-30 15:29:09	humanface	it says the correct parameters
2021-05-30 15:29:25	humanface	yes, it says git remote set-url --push name new url oldurl
2021-05-30 15:29:35	humanface	and it says git remote set-url --add name newurl
2021-05-30 15:29:46	humanface	and it says git remote set-url --delete name url
2021-05-30 15:29:52	humanface	I don't know what to do actually
2021-05-30 15:29:54	Lumpio-	--push and oldurl are optional you dont' need those
2021-05-30 15:29:58	Lumpio-	It's the first set-url in the list
2021-05-30 15:30:08	Lumpio-	git remote set-url origin urlhere
2021-05-30 15:30:20	humanface	well, manual didn't mention that option in the list...
2021-05-30 15:30:22	humanface	thanks
2021-05-30 15:30:27	Lumpio-	Yes it does
2021-05-30 15:30:28	Lumpio-	       git remote set-url [--push] <name> <newurl> [<oldurl>]
2021-05-30 15:30:30	Lumpio-	right here
2021-05-30 15:30:47	humanface	ok, I have no idea that <name> is origin
2021-05-30 15:31:02	humanface	I'm not a git guru
2021-05-30 15:31:41	Lumpio-	Alright
2021-05-30 15:31:49	Lumpio-	"origin" is actually a name that can be anything
2021-05-30 15:32:05	Lumpio-	You could use whatever you want for the name, that's just conventional. "upstream" is another common name people use.
2021-05-30 15:32:27	humanface	I'm using git push origin --all and it says repository not found
2021-05-30 15:32:28	humanface	why?
2021-05-30 15:32:51	Lumpio-	Try: git remove -v
2021-05-30 15:33:02	Lumpio-	err
2021-05-30 15:33:04	Lumpio-	git remote -v
2021-05-30 15:33:24	Lumpio-	In the usual case it should show the same URL for fetch and push
2021-05-30 15:33:27	humanface	it says origin https:// my .git url (fetch)
2021-05-30 15:33:34	Lumpio-	No push URL?
2021-05-30 15:33:36	humanface	and it says origin https:// my .git url (push)
2021-05-30 15:33:40	Lumpio-	alright
2021-05-30 15:34:42	Lumpio-	Are you sure the URL is correct? If it's for a common git host you could open it in a browser and check
2021-05-30 15:34:51	humanface	I have copied from the github
2021-05-30 15:35:00	Lumpio-	So if you click the URL does it open
2021-05-30 15:35:07	humanface	I'm checking
2021-05-30 15:35:18	humanface	yes, it is opening
2021-05-30 15:35:23	humanface	in a browser
2021-05-30 15:35:31	Lumpio-	Is it your own repository, i.e. do you have write access to it?
2021-05-30 15:38:07	humanface	Lumpio- well, I have received access to that via email, and I can push anything via Sourcetree
2021-05-30 15:38:17	humanface	but I want to push a whole different repo content to there
2021-05-30 15:38:19	humanface	with history
2021-05-30 15:38:25	humanface	so I'm using command line git now
2021-05-30 15:38:30	Lumpio-	Does it ask you for a username and password when you try to push
2021-05-30 15:38:33	humanface	(for the first time, because I hate using command line tools)
2021-05-30 15:38:38	humanface	no, it doesn't
2021-05-30 15:38:48	Lumpio-	Are you on Windows?
2021-05-30 15:38:51	humanface	yes
2021-05-30 15:39:05	Lumpio-	oh
2021-05-30 15:39:18	Lumpio-	err there's probably something weird going on with credential management
2021-05-30 15:40:01	humanface	https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/git-move-repository
2021-05-30 15:40:06	humanface	I'm trying to do these steps
2021-05-30 15:40:23	humanface	and I'm always blocked with the git push origin --all part
2021-05-30 15:40:51	Lumpio-	I haven't used git on Windows for a long time, I wonder how the credentials work
2021-05-30 15:41:27	Lumpio-	https://stackoverflow.com/a/31793839/227267 here's a suggestion where you might be able to check/delete broken credentials
2021-05-30 15:41:32	Lumpio-	The Credential Manager thing
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2021-05-30 16:02:32	humanface	Lumpio- I'm checking that now
2021-05-30 16:02:41	humanface	I just have 10 different thing I need to do parallel
2021-05-30 16:02:43	humanface	as usual
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2021-05-30 16:28:38	humanface	Lumpio- now it seems that it's working
2021-05-30 16:28:51	Lumpio-	neat
2021-05-30 16:29:16	humanface	Lumpio- is there a way to check the commit number?
2021-05-30 16:29:23	humanface	I mean how much commits are there
2021-05-30 16:29:30	humanface	just to be sure it has been copied correctly
2021-05-30 16:30:34	Lumpio-	You shouldn't need to know the number of commits, just the hash of the latest one
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2021-05-30 16:32:32	humanface	Lumpio- why exactly?
2021-05-30 16:33:38	Lumpio-	If you can manage to check out the repository somewhere and the commit hashes match, it's extremely unlikely a commit has gone missing
2021-05-30 16:34:23	humanface	Lumpio- and if a branch or a tag is missing?
2021-05-30 16:34:37	Lumpio-	Oh you mean *all* branches?
2021-05-30 16:34:47	humanface	yes
2021-05-30 16:34:48	osse	git rev-list --count --all
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2021-05-30 16:37:39	humanface	so if the count is the same for both repos, then it's perfectly matching?
2021-05-30 16:37:45	humanface	even all the branches?
2021-05-30 16:38:08	osse	I mean.. you could have one extra branch on one repo and one extra branch in the other with the same number of commits...
2021-05-30 16:38:49	humanface	osse which means?
2021-05-30 16:38:53	cbreak	humanface: the count doesn't really matter
2021-05-30 16:39:00	cbreak	only the hashes of the refs matters
2021-05-30 16:39:09	osse	humanface: which means the answer to your question is no
2021-05-30 16:40:43	humanface	ok, so in the new repo the last commit has the same hash, and there are branches as I see, just like what was in the original repo
2021-05-30 16:40:51	humanface	in the graph, I can see them
2021-05-30 16:41:22	humanface	only the new repo contains 2 new commits on a branch named main, which are existed before I have copied the repo
2021-05-30 16:41:36	humanface	but those 2 new commits were just testing commits
2021-05-30 16:41:42	humanface	so is it okay?
2021-05-30 16:41:47	osse	yes
2021-05-30 16:41:50	humanface	I mean the copy was successful?
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2021-05-30 16:44:25	osse	if the branches are the same and the hashes are the same, yes
2021-05-30 16:47:07	humanface	ok, one last dumb question from me osse
2021-05-30 16:47:09	humanface	https://imgur.com/a/aOttEqz
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2021-05-30 16:47:31	humanface	X is the last valid commit hash which is the same as I had on the previous repo
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2021-05-30 16:47:43	humanface	Y, Z are new ones for testing purposes
2021-05-30 16:47:51	humanface	but they're not connected to this branch
2021-05-30 16:47:54	humanface	as you can see
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2021-05-30 16:48:14	humanface	so they're on main, and the repo clone is on master
2021-05-30 16:48:16	osse	that's fine
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2021-05-30 16:48:22	osse	you can delete main
2021-05-30 16:48:42	humanface	so working on master further will be the correct copy of my previous repo, if that X commit hash is matching with the other one?
2021-05-30 16:48:50	humanface	the one on the top of the previous repo
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2021-05-30 16:48:57	osse	yes
2021-05-30 16:49:01	humanface	ok, thanks :)
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2021-05-31 04:12:21	mitigate	in march i was able to pull off a trick: i was able to  fake a parent commit (by creating a commit object), and create a commit with git-commit-tree, stick in the commit into .git/shallow, and then keep committing. then i could fetch the new commits to another repository  with a full history
2021-05-31 04:13:00	mitigate	maybe i forgot some detail but it doesnt work when i tried it again. the remote host deleted my guest directory and i dont have a record
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2021-05-31 04:14:14	mitigate	fsck lists something like: error: hash mismatch for .git/objects/37/7c6e59fa232f1bfc4b1f4cef79510f906dd201 (expected 377c6e59fa232f1bfc4b1f4cef79510f906dd201)
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2021-05-31 04:14:59	mitigate	i dont remember seeing a problem before - maybe i didnt run fsck. but i was able to fetch commits from the fake shallow repo - the fetches now blow saying invalid sha1
2021-05-31 04:15:50	mitigate	maybe a git upgrade is the problem?
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2021-05-31 04:20:41	mitigate	there was a patch on march 28th
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2021-05-31 04:24:35	cbreak	it seems your repository is corrupted
2021-05-31 04:24:48	cbreak	every object in git is identified by its hash
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2021-05-31 04:28:29	mitigate	but it looks correct when i do zlib-flate -uncompress < .git/objects/37/7c6e59fa232f1bfc4b1f4cef79510f906dd201
2021-05-31 04:28:40	mitigate	but i did  create the file by  hand
2021-05-31 04:29:51	mitigate	and git cat-file commit 377c6e59fa232f1bfc4b1f4cef79510f906dd201 produces the corect oputput too afaict
2021-05-31 04:30:20	mitigate	i also created a tree object for the commit
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2021-05-31 04:34:47	cbreak	mitigate: check what git hash-object does
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2021-05-31 04:34:58	cbreak	if it doesn't give the same hash, then your repo is corrupted.
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2021-05-31 04:46:02	mitigate	ah yes i guess it was complete retardation on my part
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2021-05-31 04:51:45	mitigate	hmm not
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2021-05-31 04:57:47	mitigate	ok i should be using git-hash-object -w instead of writing the commit object myself. i think my script got the size wrong
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2021-05-31 05:04:49	mitigate	"git cat-file commit <commitid> | wc -c"  gives one byte less than what it should be
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2021-05-31 05:05:33	mitigate	no actually that works
2021-05-31 05:05:43	mitigate	bah
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2021-05-31 05:11:21	mitigate	its a /bin/sh thing.  a="$(git cat-file commit <commitid>)" ; echo $a | wc -c gives me an offby1 error
2021-05-31 05:12:14	beastd	mitigate: $() removes the last LF it it's there
2021-05-31 05:12:15	mitigate	it works with zsh
2021-05-31 05:12:18	mitigate	ah yes
2021-05-31 05:12:22	mitigate	stupid of me..
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2021-05-31 05:14:14	osse	fun fact: it will remove multiple conscutive LF too
2021-05-31 05:14:24	beastd	handling binary contents in shell variables is tricky
2021-05-31 05:14:48	beastd	osse: ah probably yes if they are at the end
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2021-05-31 05:22:01	mitigate	if i have an: error: packed <> from .git/objects/pack/pack-<>.pack is corrupt , can i replace the packed object
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2021-05-31 05:35:53	mitigate	trying to git-replace --edit doesnt fix the bad commit. actually i think its unrecoverable now
2021-05-31 05:36:01	mitigate	but thx
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2021-05-31 10:26:09	revoltingPeasant	The code base I'm trying to merge with has recently changed from $ to ^M$ line endings which is causing me few headaches. I'm on windows using git bash. Can anyone share a quice fix for this please.
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2021-05-31 10:45:22	canton7	revoltingPeasant, there are various options to merge, like -Xignore-cr-at-eol, which might help? See man git-merge
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2021-05-31 10:45:49	canton7	You might have to re-normalize the line endings after git does the merge, not sure
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2021-05-31 10:59:50	revoltingPeasant	canton7: Thanks It merged with -Xignore-cr-at-eol but it's treating some of the files as completer re-writes. I'm going to fix it the dumb way and merge everything manually.
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2021-05-31 11:00:27	canton7	revoltingPeasant, don't worry about the rename/copy/rewrite detection. That's just heuristics applied to give you a textual status
2021-05-31 11:00:54	canton7	revoltingPeasant, if two files have less than X% similarity, it's shown as a rewrite -- nothing to do with the file history or anything
2021-05-31 11:01:37	canton7	It might even be doing it by-line, so if all lines have their line endings changed, that's a 100% rewrite. Don't worry about it -- it's just for informational purposes
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2021-05-31 11:28:52	j416	a good idea might be to rebase first, then merge, to avoid the issue completely, at the cost of a bit more work in the rebase
2021-05-31 11:28:56	j416	revoltingPeasant: ^
2021-05-31 11:29:10	j416	meh wrong channel.
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2021-05-31 11:39:33	revoltingPeasant	canton7: Thanks, got it sorted now. j416, thank you too. I'll give that a go the next time I run into this issue.
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2021-05-31 11:42:55	tolarz	> Warning: Permanently added the ECDSA host key for IP address 'x.y.z.v' to the list of known hosts.
2021-05-31 11:43:01	tolarz	I just received this from `git pull`
2021-05-31 11:43:06	tolarz	Is this dangerous?
2021-05-31 11:44:27	vdamewood	tolarz: If it's the first time you connect to the remote host,probably not. If it's not the first time, yes.
2021-05-31 11:44:56	vdamewood	tolarz: That warning says that thet the SSH key of the remote host is new, and was added to the list of known keys.
2021-05-31 11:45:48	vdamewood	Actually, yeah, it's safe. If it was a new key for a previously known host, SSH would have thrown a fit and refused to connect.
2021-05-31 11:46:15	rangergord	vdamewood: was it you I spoke to like 2 years ago who was making a Qt/QML app for mobile, or something like that?
2021-05-31 11:47:05	vdamewood	rangergord: I dont remember, but it's possible.
2021-05-31 11:47:14	rangergord	well, did you?
2021-05-31 11:47:34	rangergord	I just have a mental of note of you trying something I wanted to try, and you tellingh me "ask me again in a few months". But I totally forgot what it was
2021-05-31 11:48:36	vdamewood	Oh, I was doing it? That would have been one year ago, then.
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2021-05-31 11:48:36	vdamewood	And no. I basically wasted $600 on a Qt license.
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2021-05-31 11:48:36	rangergord	lol, sorry
2021-05-31 11:49:12	rangergord	it's kinda perverse how you can't work on an LGPL version (Android-only), and if you decide "I might actually finish this and  release it", then decide to get a commercial license
2021-05-31 11:49:17	rangergord	they don't let you
2021-05-31 11:49:35	tolarz	vdamewood: no it's not the first time
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2021-05-31 11:50:59	jast	tolarz: it basically means github added a new server. SSH warns you a lot more loudly if suspicious things are going on.
2021-05-31 11:51:35	jast	(or whoever your hoster is)
2021-05-31 11:51:47	vdamewood	rangergord: I actually asked about that. If you do it in bad faith, I think they'll just charge you a fee, probably to cover the license you would have had if you paid for it upfron. In my case, i did make an app with the LGPL and asked if I could convert it to commercial as I had no intention of releasing it commercially initially and only wanted to release it in the App store and they said okay.
2021-05-31 11:52:23	rangergord	oh, cool
2021-05-31 11:52:39	rangergord	so you actually wrote it. So why'd you say you wasted the money on a license?
2021-05-31 11:52:53	vdamewood	That wasn't the app I bought the license for.
2021-05-31 11:53:17	Lumpio-	What do you mean "you can't work on an LGPL version"?
2021-05-31 11:53:17	vdamewood	I wrote one app years ago. Then started another one last year. Bought the Qt license for the second, and never finished the second.
2021-05-31 11:53:23	Lumpio-	Surely you can just write code without publishing it
2021-05-31 11:53:25	Lumpio-	All you want
2021-05-31 11:53:53	vdamewood	Lumpio-: The commercial Qt license has language that says it doesn't apply to programs you developed with the LGPL version of Qt.
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2021-05-31 11:54:29	Lumpio-	How're they gonna tell lol
2021-05-31 11:54:31	vdamewood	And that you need written permission to use the commercial license with software developed with the LGPL version.
2021-05-31 11:55:21	Lumpio-	That's just bizarre, I wonder if they'd go to court over it
2021-05-31 11:55:36	vdamewood	Probbly.
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2021-05-31 12:05:07	rangergord	Lumpio-: they wouldn't, but a real company would never take the risk
2021-05-31 12:05:37	rangergord	or if you're a single person who then blows up and is seen as a whale
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2021-05-31 23:26:36	renatosilva	anyone awake?
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2021-05-31 23:40:32	oatmealraisin	ye, wuzzup
2021-05-31 23:40:34	oatmealraisin	renatosilva:
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2021-05-31 23:43:04	renatosilva	hi oatmealraisin
2021-05-31 23:45:04	renatosilva	what's your take on multiple people pushing to a main branch? merge/rebase before push or anything new?
2021-05-31 23:45:19	oatmealraisin	very bad, generally leads to conflicts
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2021-05-31 23:46:04	renatosilva	the conflicts will eventually occur anyway
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2021-05-31 23:46:25	oatmealraisin	even in small teams i prefer integration manager approach
2021-05-31 23:46:39	renatosilva	how does it work?
2021-05-31 23:47:04	oatmealraisin	https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows#wfdiag_b
2021-05-31 23:47:08	oatmealraisin	except with branches
2021-05-31 23:47:15	renatosilva	ah, one man like the "merger"?
2021-05-31 23:48:09	renatosilva	small team here, looks overkill
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2021-05-31 23:52:22	renatosilva	I mean, technically we all have such manager role so wouldn't make much sense I think
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2021-06-01 00:37:01	renatosilva	gtg, thanks
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2021-06-01 02:25:14	Rashad	I would like to congratulate and thank whoever wrote that "freenode situation" article in the topic as perhaps the most balanced and reasonable thing that I've read so far about any of this.
2021-06-01 02:26:47	Rashad	Although I did not like the part where it mentioned the word moron and also that the "trust ... is already gone" part
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2021-06-01 02:27:19	Rashad	(maybe "greatly hindered" or "almost gone" would have been a more proper reaction, to the situation -- but that's just my opinion)
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2021-06-01 02:54:58	tango_	Rashad: taking over channels without a valid motivation and going against the established policies is a complete betrayal of trust.
2021-06-01 02:55:49	tango_	also nobody was called a moron, the action was classified as moronic, because it is extremely foolish
2021-06-01 02:56:21	tango_	stupidity is the capacity of damaging others while also damaging one's own interests, and there's really no better adjective for the takeovers
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2021-06-01 03:19:02	Rashad	tango_: 1) As the article said, he backpeddled, but still this is just my opinion
2021-06-01 03:21:28	Rashad	2) I completely agree and I know you didn't call them a moron. I just think it wasn't constructive. (although you say you don't have any trust any more so it is reasonable that you wouldn't care to convey trust in your words)
2021-06-01 03:23:04	Rashad	Hopefully Lee would improve on his mistakes and freenode remains without fragmentation
2021-06-01 03:23:39	Rashad	I probably had more issues with the old staff than Lee himself (although I doubt it) but I am against fragmentation even if it meant the old staff remained in place
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2021-06-01 03:24:36	tango_	Rashad: 1) he backpedaled because of the massive backlash, but he still got what he wanted: the end result is that nobody even mentions libera.chat explicitly in the topic anymore, which is not good
2021-06-01 03:24:50	tango_	2) I'm not the author of the article
2021-06-01 03:25:31	Rashad	Yes I tried to be open minded about Lee the whole time and didn't particularly find anything to object to until he did that censorship thing
2021-06-01 03:25:47	tango_	the fact that he backpedaled because of the backlash and not because it was the wrong thing to do is very important, because it clarifies the lack of ethics of the individual. even the spin that the tried to put into the justification for doing it is profoundly dishonest
2021-06-01 03:26:32	Rashad	I think if there are tens or hundreds of people calling you all sorts of things that you don't believe you are for a week or two... I think you might not be able to control your emotions that much
2021-06-01 03:26:32	tango_	I don't actually particularly care about who operates a network. I do care about the level of trust though
2021-06-01 03:27:02	Rashad	I am not excusing it, I am just saying that if you put the average person in his situation it wouldn't be unexpected that they would make such mistakes
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2021-06-01 03:27:23	Rashad	The important thing is to fix them as soon as possible
2021-06-01 03:28:01	Rashad	tango_ The old management in my opinion had flaws that I think they were never going to admit, which for me is also a trust issue
2021-06-01 03:28:38	tango_	the only flaw I found in the old staff is that they let themselves be swindled. they seem to have learned the lesson with libera
2021-06-01 03:29:33	Rashad	tango_ You have to ask why they did -- I think it is a symptom of a larger problem of an anti-social mentality ("dog eat dog worldview")
2021-06-01 03:29:36	tango_	lee isn't “an averag person” by any means. and the profound opacity of his management has been evident right from the start —that what was he was being called on, _with proof_, even though he's always tried to spin it in a different way
2021-06-01 03:29:50	tango_	but given how he spun the takeover, there's very little to believe about what he says
2021-06-01 03:30:07	Rashad	We can discuss this further in ##philosophy if you want, if it matters anyway
2021-06-01 03:30:11	tango_	Rashad: on the contrary, I think it was more because of misplaced trust
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2021-06-01 03:30:18	Rashad	tango_ In terms of conscience, we'
2021-06-01 03:30:28	Rashad	tango_ In terms of conscience, we're all "average" people
2021-06-01 03:30:28	tango_	and I don't care enough about the issue to discuss this anywhere
2021-06-01 03:30:31	tango_	especially not here
2021-06-01 03:30:36	tango_	(here = on freenode)
2021-06-01 03:30:49	Rashad	Humanism says that people are equal.
2021-06-01 03:31:00	tango_	my presence here is only because of the last missing strays in a couple of channels I manage
2021-06-01 03:31:29	tango_	when they finally bounce out I'll have to tell them personally about the move, because other channels cannot be trusted
2021-06-01 03:31:29	Rashad	tango_ anti-social personalities have difficulties with trust
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2021-06-01 03:31:50	Rashad	In psychology the same deficit can manifest in either extreme: total trust or no trust at all
2021-06-01 03:32:04	Rashad	They expect the world to be a certain way when it isn't
2021-06-01 03:32:05	tango_	Rashad: I don't care
2021-06-01 03:32:14	tango_	and I'm not interested in debating the issue
2021-06-01 03:32:22	tango_	neither here on #git, nor on freenode in general
2021-06-01 03:32:27	Rashad	OK
2021-06-01 03:32:48	Rashad	I missed your line when you said that earlier, sorry
2021-06-01 03:33:12	Rashad	Anyway good luck to you and the people of Libre.Chat
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2021-06-01 10:31:51	rosco_y	my git tells me that 'Your branch and 'origin/main' have diverged,' and that I can (use "git pull" to merge the remote branch into mine.)
2021-06-01 10:32:40	rosco_y	Can I somehow push my local to overwrite the remote repo?
2021-06-01 10:33:11	rosco_y	(resolving the conflict)
2021-06-01 10:33:35	osse	yes with push --force
2021-06-01 10:33:50	rosco_y	Thanks osse :)
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2021-06-01 11:16:21	rangergord	but unless you're pushing a rebase (where the changes are still in your history, just under different commit IDs)...then be careful with --force cause it will overwrite whatever's there
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2021-06-01 15:02:04	ville	howdy. i've just done `git merge --squash` but have not done `git commit` nor `git push` to remote. how can i back out of this so no trace of this remains?
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2021-06-01 15:02:28	osse	git reset --hard HEAD~1
2021-06-01 15:02:56	ville	osse: ok and the remote and anyone pulling from there will be none the wiser?
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2021-06-01 15:03:00	osse	wait, you're not still in a conflict resolution right?
2021-06-01 15:03:19	ville	there's no conflict to resolve. it's just missing the `git commit`
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2021-06-01 15:03:36	osse	oh right it doesn't commit by default
2021-06-01 15:03:41	osse	merge --abort then
2021-06-01 15:04:11	ville	"fatal: There is no merge to abort (MERGE_HEAD missing)."
2021-06-01 15:04:28	osse	goddammit
2021-06-01 15:04:32	osse	reset --hard then
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2021-06-01 15:04:42	osse	*without* the ~1
2021-06-01 15:05:00	ville	will that screw up it so people pulling from the remote will need to take action?
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2021-06-01 15:05:22	osse	no
2021-06-01 15:05:42	ville	ok let's hope so! trusting people on the internet has never failed!
2021-06-01 15:05:42	osse	you can do whatever you like as long as you don't push
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2021-06-01 15:06:06	ville	so to double check: git reset --hard HEAD ?
2021-06-01 15:06:49	osse	yes
2021-06-01 15:06:59	osse	(HEAD is assumed if not given)
2021-06-01 15:07:10	ville	ok thanks
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2021-06-01 15:08:56	osse	merge --abort should be able to do that. grrr
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2021-06-01 15:15:09	ville	well seems to have worked. don't know why the merge --abort didn't do what you expected.
2021-06-01 15:15:39	ville	if version matters: git version 2.31.1
2021-06-01 15:15:52	osse	it's because merge --squash is a bit weird
2021-06-01 15:19:25	ville	right, then it's bit inconsistent if it works for the other kind of merges
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2021-06-01 20:39:32	--	Topic set by jast (jast@zoidberg.org) on Sat, 29 May 2021 11:58:40
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2021-06-01 21:50:06	bobdobbs	When I attempt to commit my latest changes, I get this message: https://hastebin.com/bomaverado.apache
2021-06-01 21:50:36	bobdobbs	If I hit up google, I see advice to do 'git fsck --full'
2021-06-01 21:50:44	bobdobbs	However, when I try to do that, I get the same error
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2021-06-01 21:51:18	bobdobbs	what exactly is going on here?
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2021-06-01 21:57:34	bobdobbs	I also found advicate suggesting to run 'git gc'. If I do that, I get the following errors: https://hastebin.com/arawanokig.makefile
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2021-06-01 23:23:34	escherial	so, i accidentally pushed like 20GB of data to github because my git lfs config was incorrect. i've since corrected the config and verified that git lfs status showed the files as being LFS files before committing, but are those old files going to hang around somehow in the index, taking up space for anyone who clones the repo?
2021-06-01 23:24:21	escherial	fwiw, i corrected .gitattributes, then git rm -r --cached the_giant_folder then git added it, then verified that it was being tracked by running git lfs status
2021-06-01 23:25:00	escherial	after committing and pushing these newly LFS-tracked filkes, is there anything else i need to do, or is that enough?
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2021-06-02 04:06:52	PsyRabbit	Hello, does someone know a tool which can replace placeholder for passwords with real passwords upon ci/cd inside my code? I have a monitoring configuration with credentials in it and need to separate it. I didnt found a good solution with google, does someone know something useful before i write such tool on my own?
2021-06-02 04:07:18	PsyRabbit	Im using hashicorp vault and gitlab btw
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2021-06-02 04:13:34	drogas	is `git pull origin A` the same as `git checkout A` `git pull` ?
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2021-06-02 04:17:13	osse_	no
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2021-06-02 05:40:15	nwoob	When doing the merge activity of develop to master, i create a branch from develop and merge master into it
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2021-06-02 05:40:35	nwoob	then I create a PR to merge this new branch into master
2021-06-02 05:41:17	nwoob	The issue is all the new changes merged into master commit are coming in my name
2021-06-02 05:41:29	nwoob	it should be the name of original developer
2021-06-02 05:41:39	nwoob	can somone please guide what's going wrong
2021-06-02 05:41:54	nwoob	I'm using gitlab
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2021-06-02 05:53:15	cbreak	nwoob: why would you merge master into develop? that makes no sense
2021-06-02 05:53:23	cbreak	you wanted to merge it into the other direction
2021-06-02 05:53:45	cbreak	the merge commit will be in the name of who ever creates the merge commit
2021-06-02 05:53:52	cbreak	that would be you, most likely
2021-06-02 05:54:11	cbreak	all the commits made by someone else will remain by someone else
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2021-06-02 05:56:33	nwoob	merge master into new branch created from develop, to resolve conflicts
2021-06-02 05:57:43	nwoob	there is only one commit after merge which is the title of PR
2021-06-02 05:58:02	nwoob	which is by me so the work of other devs are named to me in master
2021-06-02 05:58:14	nwoob	cbreak:
2021-06-02 06:00:55	cbreak	you made the commit, so you're its author
2021-06-02 06:00:57	cbreak	that's normal.
2021-06-02 06:01:04	cbreak	you're also its committer.
2021-06-02 06:01:18	cbreak	I recommend not doing silly things like merging the wrong way around first
2021-06-02 06:01:30	cbreak	resolve the conflicts when merging.
2021-06-02 06:02:13	nwoob	how do you propose to resolve conflict?
2021-06-02 06:02:30	nwoob	downmerging the branch is the way to resolve conflict
2021-06-02 06:02:53	nwoob	how else are you gonna have master branch changes in your branch
2021-06-02 06:02:54	cbreak	merge your develop into master
2021-06-02 06:02:58	cbreak	resolve conflicts
2021-06-02 06:03:03	cbreak	obviously
2021-06-02 06:03:25	nwoob	and how does PR comes into the picture
2021-06-02 06:03:35	cbreak	make a pr before merging?
2021-06-02 06:04:13	cbreak	you know that you can merge without a pr, locally, right?
2021-06-02 06:04:25	cbreak	and you can then make a pr for that merge commit
2021-06-02 06:04:29	nwoob	locally yes
2021-06-02 06:04:42	cbreak	it'd have the correct parent order
2021-06-02 06:04:49	nwoob	so PR directly from develop?
2021-06-02 06:04:50	cbreak	so it wouldn't fuck up things like git log --first-parent
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2021-06-02 06:05:02	cbreak	and you'd get one less commit
2021-06-02 06:05:23	cbreak	(if the pr is resolved fast-forward)
2021-06-02 06:10:04	cbreak	(If I wanted to update a feature branch, I'd use rebase. But that has lots of added constraings, and if you'd do it, you'd be the committer of every single commit on that branch :D)
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2021-06-02 06:31:15	ennoausberlin	Hi. I am trying to use git to manage changes on a .csv file. The csv is on a bare repo on my file system. Multiple users can pull and push on this. When users edit concurrently the same line on the csv file, I get a merge conflict. How can I get the diff and how can I apply the remote or my local version?
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2021-06-02 06:35:57	Rashad	ennoausberlin Are you using some kind of GUI or the command line?
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2021-06-02 06:38:40	ennoausberlin	ashad: My app has a GUI but is using shell calls to git
2021-06-02 06:39:11	ennoausberlin	Rashad:My app has a GUI but is using shell calls to git
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2021-06-02 06:40:04	ennoausberlin	Rashad:I want to resolve the conflicts within my app,
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2021-06-02 06:41:26	Rashad	What's your app ennoausberlin?
2021-06-02 06:41:41	drogas	how do we do merge request through command line
2021-06-02 06:42:15	ennoausberlin	Rashad:Self developed, but I want to use git for version control my apps data
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2021-06-02 07:15:37	cbreak	git diff will show you some things
2021-06-02 07:15:44	cbreak	git mergetool will show you a lot more
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2021-06-02 08:39:13	drogas	I have added a file I modified, but I am still getting unstaged changes
2021-06-02 08:40:14	drogas	it says `Changes to be committed:
2021-06-02 08:40:15	drogas	  (use "git restore --staged <file>..." to unstage)`
2021-06-02 08:40:33	osse_	those are not unstaged changes
2021-06-02 08:40:35	drogas	and `Changes not staged for commit:` for the same file that I did `git add` for
2021-06-02 08:40:42	osse_	oh
2021-06-02 08:41:05	drogas	when I run `git status`
2021-06-02 08:41:18	osse_	git diff --staged -- file  will show the staged changes, while git diff -- file will show the unstaged ones
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2021-06-02 08:42:44	drogas	so what should I do? I have saved the file, I wanna commit and push it
2021-06-02 08:43:39	osse_	should should run those commands make a judgment about what they show
2021-06-02 08:43:48	osse_	in particular what the latter shows
2021-06-02 08:44:51	drogas	I mean that is the same as opening the file in vscode and seeing what I have changed no? it will just show the previous verison of the file vs the new one e.g. what has been added or removed
2021-06-02 08:45:16	osse_	no
2021-06-02 08:45:22	osse_	i showed two commands
2021-06-02 08:45:48	osse_	the first *should* show what you describe, yes. verify that it's true
2021-06-02 08:46:07	osse_	based on your question the idea that the second shows anything at all is unexpected
2021-06-02 08:46:11	osse_	so it's interesting what it shows
2021-06-02 08:47:40	drogas	second one also shows + and - of things changed
2021-06-02 08:47:44	drogas	I don't get it sorry
2021-06-02 08:47:59	osse_	did you make those changes?
2021-06-02 08:48:09	drogas	sure yes and I saved the file
2021-06-02 08:48:14	osse_	git add it again
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2021-06-02 08:50:53	drogas	okay now it worked
2021-06-02 08:50:59	drogas	that was weird. what happened?
2021-06-02 08:51:37	osse_	you edited the file after you ran git add
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2021-06-02 08:58:49	drogas	that's odd! but okay good to know. Thanks osse_
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2021-06-02 08:59:03	osse_	it's also useful
2021-06-02 08:59:11	osse_	it's nice to be able to add parts of a file
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2021-06-02 09:43:47	escherial	Fissure: right, good point. fwiw, i ended up resetting to a commit prior to adding all those big files, tracked them with lfs, then readed them to the repo. i believe that should cause them to be unreferenced since no commit in my history refers to them as belonging to the repo now
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2021-06-02 10:59:21	tuskkk____	trying to write a CI pipeline, how do I find the commit range vs master for the branch?
2021-06-02 10:59:41	tuskkk____	the solution at present was using - `COMMIT_RANGE=${COMMIT_RANGE:-$(git merge-base "${TAG_NAME}" HEAD)".."}`
2021-06-02 10:59:52	tuskkk____	which I don't think is correct
2021-06-02 11:00:19	tuskkk____	tag name can move further for a deployment, and when someone tries to deploy again, there won't be any new changes detected
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2021-06-02 11:04:36	osse_	tuskkk____: maybe I misunderstand something, but why isn't it always master..HEAD ?
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2021-06-02 11:08:53	tuskkk____	osse_: no clue
2021-06-02 11:09:05	tuskkk____	I am not sure I understand what merge-base is actually
2021-06-02 11:09:45	osse_	based on the question you asked I'll claim that master..HEAD is correct if you think it's not then you want something else than what you asked for :P
2021-06-02 11:09:50	osse_	merge-base finds the common ancestor
2021-06-02 11:10:05	osse_	the fork point or "branch-off point"
2021-06-02 11:10:35	tuskkk____	osse_: I think you are right
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2021-06-02 11:12:43	tuskkk____	sorry, what is the command should I use to find the commit range master to head?
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2021-06-02 11:21:43	osse_	tuskkk____: define "find"
2021-06-02 11:21:50	osse_	the range *is*  master..HEAD
2021-06-02 11:21:56	osse_	you can pass that to git log or git rev-list or whatever
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2021-06-02 11:22:30	tuskkk____	right, but I don't know what is the current output from $COMMIT_RANGE and how does it look like
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2021-06-02 11:22:52	tuskkk____	still kind of deciphering it
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2021-06-02 11:23:48	osse_	based on the snippet you gave me, it will either already have been given a value, or be set to a string that looks like:  abcd124f..
2021-06-02 11:23:59	osse_	which is the same as abcd124f..HEAD
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2021-06-02 17:08:03	Dotz0cat	I guess I should include my .gitignore right?
2021-06-02 17:10:18	nedbat	Dotz0cat: include how?
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2021-06-02 17:10:30	nedbat	btw: this channel has moved to https://libera.chaat
2021-06-02 17:10:35	nedbat	(only one a, sorry)
2021-06-02 17:11:33	rewt	https:// ?  more like irc://irc.  ;)
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2021-06-02 19:27:36	onnnneeeee	how do i get data from a submodule onto my local? am i misinterpreting what a submodule is?
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2021-06-02 19:29:42	onnnneeeee	i just cloned it manually from the address in .gitmodules
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2021-06-02 19:48:19	cbreak	git submodule add should be used
2021-06-02 19:48:29	cbreak	or git add on the clone, AND .gitmodules
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2021-06-03 22:49:06	excelsiora	hey
2021-06-03 22:50:46	excelsiora	quick question - I'm using git bash with ssh and the ssh escape character is giving me a hard time. I can turn it off on ssh directly with `-e none` (I think that's how to do it) but I need git to do it when I push. Thoughts?
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2021-06-03 23:36:13	excelsiora	core.sshCommand was what I needed - FYI: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-config
2021-06-03 23:36:33	excelsiora	I set the sshCommand = ssh -e none
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2021-06-03 23:38:08	excelsiora	I solved my own problem, isn't that a great thing?
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2021-06-04 04:01:52	ezakimak	trying to push changes on a branch. first it said "the current branche X has no upstream branch" and told me to git push --set-upstream origin X, but after I did that it said it was rejected because remote has work not contained locally, and remote already does have a branch named X
2021-06-04 04:02:33	ezakimak	can I just push my local branch X  to a new branch on origin named X2 or something?
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2021-06-04 05:18:44	mitigate	is there some way to checkout parts of a tree in a new location
2021-06-04 05:19:17	mitigate	to do what i'm doing with git show ref:individual-file
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2021-06-04 06:08:30	osse_	git archive is maybe helpful here
2021-06-04 06:08:48	osse_	maybe GIT_WORK_TREE=somewhere git checkout commit:path -- .
2021-06-04 06:09:07	mitigate	ah yes! thanks
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2021-06-04 06:19:52	nwoob	has this channel not moved to libera chat?
2021-06-04 06:20:38	osse_	yup
2021-06-04 06:20:42	Peng	See the link in the channel topic, https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
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2021-06-04 08:11:26	pepa	I'm on a branch, I moved a file from folder a to folder b manually
2021-06-04 08:11:43	pepa	how can I make git aware of this change?
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2021-06-04 08:12:26	osse_	pepa: git add -u
2021-06-04 08:13:13	pepa	-u ?
2021-06-04 08:13:50	osse_	-u
2021-06-04 08:14:44	pepa	what is that for
2021-06-04 08:15:19	osse_	just something I made up
2021-06-04 08:15:39	osse_	but on second thought, I think you want git add -A instead
2021-06-04 08:15:49	osse_	you can also git add folder_a folder_b
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2021-06-04 16:35:41	tuxayo[m]	Hi :)
2021-06-04 16:35:41	tuxayo[m]	With git am I got "sha1 information is lacking or useless"
2021-06-04 16:35:41	tuxayo[m]	Which was circumvented with:
2021-06-04 16:35:44	tuxayo[m]	git am --show-current-patch=diff | patch -p1 --merge
2021-06-04 16:35:44	tuxayo[m]	git add THE RELEVANT FILES
2021-06-04 16:35:44	tuxayo[m]	git am apply --continue
2021-06-04 16:35:54	tuxayo[m]	But there must be a catch right? Otherwise git would do it itself.
2021-06-04 16:35:55	tuxayo[m]	Context: using git-bz which downloads patches from a bugzilla ticket and apply them with git am.
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2021-06-04 18:56:45	tuxayo[m]	Actually, nothing specific to git bz. I reproduced with git am, without -3 so no message about the sha1.
2021-06-04 18:56:57	tuxayo[m]	So it's just a git am failure to apply. But in this case, it could be circumvented with the above commands.
2021-06-04 18:57:07	tuxayo[m]	I'm worried if that can be trusted. I would use it several times a month at least if it can.
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2021-06-04 20:16:11	Guest95775	Hello daar
2021-06-04 20:16:54	Guest95775	I am struggling with forking on github
2021-06-04 20:17:58	nedbat	Guest95775: this channel has moved to https://libera.chat
2021-06-04 20:19:23	Guest95775	When did this happen and why is there still 600+ members here
2021-06-04 20:19:44	nedbat	Guest95775: there are details at https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
2021-06-04 20:20:25	Peng	Over the last couple weeks, and because no one has kicked all the idlers.
2021-06-04 20:20:33	Guest95775	Thanks the response speed is almost bot like
2021-06-04 20:20:37	Guest95775	lol
2021-06-04 20:21:44	Guest95775	what other channels is there still available on this site?
2021-06-04 20:22:00	Guest95775	I only stumbled apon this site when learning about git
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2021-06-04 20:25:48	nedbat	Guest95775: the other irc network is also available.
2021-06-04 20:26:00	nedbat	Guest95775: what problem are you having with forking on github?
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2021-06-05 00:05:58	eggbean	I am trying to squash commits on github gists. I don't want to leave a commit message, but it doesn't seem to work whatever I do. I have tried `git rebase --allow-empty-message -i HEAD~5` but that hasn't worked
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2021-06-05 00:06:25	eggbean	How can I squash without leaving a commit message in this case?
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2021-06-05 01:18:19	LalitRao	What is the best alternate of git
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2021-06-05 05:50:42	nedbat	eggbean: the channel has moved to https://libera.chat.  But I'm not sure what you mean by "no commit message". When you squash, you will have one commit left. You don't want a message on that commit?
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2021-06-05 06:02:21	eggbean	nedbat: It doesn't matter. Github gists don't have commit messages usually when you are using the web interface to make them, but they don't appear on the web when you make them in the terminal anyway. In any case, I don't need a solution to this anymore. Cheers.
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2021-06-05 06:35:49	cbreak	alternative to git? I don't think so...
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2021-06-05 06:42:14	vhallac	Hello. I have a question about rebasing.
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2021-06-05 06:42:33	vhallac	Assume you have two branches that have related history, and you want to rebase both onto another one
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2021-06-05 06:42:56	vhallac	if you rebase one after the other, you end up with two unrelated commit chains
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2021-06-05 06:43:41	vhallac	is there any way to rebase them together? Especially if there are multiple merges between the two?
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2021-06-05 06:45:53	canton7	vhallac, we're over on https://libera.chat these days
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2021-06-05 06:51:09	cbreak	I don't think that works reliably though in many situations.
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2021-06-05 06:51:46	cbreak	you can manually do it, by making fresh branches, and then manually cherry-picking commits and redoing merges as you want.
2021-06-05 06:51:59	cbreak	this will be a lot of work though.
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2021-06-05 06:52:32	vhallac	Oy... I think I will leave them separate. There's lots of history to fix, with little benefit
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2021-06-05 07:33:24	rosco_y	I've painted myself into a corner:  I can't push because "my branch and origin have diverged" (use "git pull" to merge the remote branch.  But when I run "git pull" it errors out because files would be overwritten by the merge.  What should I do? https://paste.ofcode.org/Wd5bEJf3Bx5TibPAMGc7J
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2021-06-05 07:35:18	osse_	I don't know how to explain it without basically saying the same thing as the error message
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2021-06-05 07:35:33	osse_	git needs to modify some files but those files have uncommitted changes
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2021-06-05 07:37:41	rosco_y	Thanks osse_, you are correct...I missed that I had files to commit.
2021-06-05 07:37:56	rosco_y	:) Thanks again osse_ !
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2021-06-05 07:40:04	rosco_y	so I committed them, and now my "git pull" is complaining because my files are binary files, and can't be merged.  I'd like to exclude the "Library" directory from my repo entirely.
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2021-06-05 07:42:47	rosco_y	When I add the ignore directive to my .gitignore "[Ll]ibrary/" and run a status, the Library modifications are still reported.  (I think it might be because they are already included in my repo)  Can I tell git to ignore the files, without deleting them?
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2021-06-05 07:43:14	osse_	no
2021-06-05 07:43:21	rosco_y	:(
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2021-06-05 07:44:06	rosco_y	well, at least I know the answer.  In the future I'll be careful not to include them in the first place.
2021-06-05 07:44:07	osse_	you'll have to merge the binary files yourself. often that means just picking one of the sides, but if it's a document or something then that's probably not rigfht
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2021-06-05 07:45:20	rosco_y	they are files used internally by the ide software I am using.
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2021-06-05 07:45:41	osse_	git rm
2021-06-05 07:45:43	osse_	get rid of them
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2021-06-05 07:45:45	osse_	it's not too late
2021-06-05 07:46:15	osse_	SAVE YOURSELF
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2021-06-05 07:46:23	rosco_y	I'll try t connect with people who know the ide well.
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2021-06-05 07:47:57	rosco_y	great advice--I should be able to copy all my files to another location, delete the files "git rm" and verify that everything is still functional.  Does that sound about right?
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2021-06-05 07:48:15	rosco_y	"SAVE YOURSELF"
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2021-06-05 07:49:03	rosco_y	if I wacked everything out of shape, then I'd copy my backed up files back to their original location?
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2021-06-05 07:50:58	osse_	if you git rm and git commit, then you can just reset --hard back, or later use git revert
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2021-06-05 07:52:46	rosco_y	osse_, how long have you been using git?
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2021-06-05 07:53:31	osse_	since i was a little boy
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2021-06-05 07:54:17	rosco_y	That makes sense.  We didn't have computers when I was a little boy.
2021-06-05 07:54:34	osse_	i've been using it since about 2009
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2021-06-05 07:54:36	osse_	or 10 maybe
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2021-06-05 07:54:59	osse_	at uni
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2021-06-05 07:55:13	rosco_y	at uni we were using svn
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2021-06-05 07:56:00	rosco_y	what is the diff between reset --hard and git revert?
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2021-06-05 07:57:13	osse_	they are different things entirely
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2021-06-05 07:57:44	rosco_y	I'll open up a can of google and read on it--Thanks osse_ !
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2021-06-05 07:58:10	osse_	reset --hard is basically for abandoning commits
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2021-06-05 07:58:22	osse_	revert is a shortcut for creating a new commit that is the inverse of another
2021-06-05 07:58:32	osse_	(e.g. to revert a previous change)
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2021-06-05 07:59:43	rosco_y	does reset --hard replace my changed files with the unchanged versions?
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2021-06-05 08:00:42	oush9	it drops everything, and removes tracked files
2021-06-05 08:00:47	oush9	 * it drops staged, and removes tracked files
2021-06-05 08:01:02	oush9	it leaves untracked files intact
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2021-06-05 08:01:48	osse_	yes, that's the --hard part
2021-06-05 08:02:04	rosco_y	I don't know what I did but now my branch is up to date with the origin, and I have nothing to commit, working tree clean.
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2021-06-05 08:02:22	rosco_y	phew
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2021-06-05 08:02:49	rosco_y	although I won't be surprised if I lost changes to my sources.  That happens to me frequently.
2021-06-05 08:02:50	osse_	hmm, might check if you suffer from short term memory loss
2021-06-05 08:03:01	osse_	also the Up key is nice
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2021-06-05 08:03:31	rosco_y	osse_, lol, I had a brain cancer in 97', and suffer a lot of that kind of thing
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2021-06-05 08:04:30	rosco_y	I know I lose stuff because I'm not using my tools correctly
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2021-06-05 08:04:58	osse_	when I have a headache I just assume it's phantom pains
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2021-06-05 08:06:11	osse_	did they open your head and stuff?
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2021-06-05 08:08:03	rosco_y	osse_, yes, they resected the tumor--it was about the size of a golf ball
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2021-06-05 08:08:57	rosco_y	But that's ok--I'm a Finnlander.  You can take all the brains you want out of a Finn, doesn't hurt a thing.
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2021-06-05 08:10:21	oush9	lol
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2021-06-05 08:11:26	rosco_y	I kind of see what the binary files do, my IDE doesn't know that one of my source files exists, but it's right here.  I've seen this before.  I can trick my IDE into repairing itself.
2021-06-05 08:11:49	rosco_y	at least I don't lose the sources.
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2021-06-05 08:13:52	oush9	rosco_y:  when the remote and local conflict, you can't push. the remote was probably updated before you pushed, and to pull would means to overwrite files you've just changed in your last commit. you always pull before pushing. then merge the changes using a merge tool (basically compare files side by side, and pick which one to keep).
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2021-06-05 08:14:15	oush9	that was your original issue.
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2021-06-05 08:15:28	rosco_y	oush9, Thank You!  How can the remote get updated without anyone pushing?  (I'm a lone developer)
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2021-06-05 08:16:32	oush9	never amend a commit after pushing
2021-06-05 08:16:46	oush9	when you change the local commit, it goes out of sync with the remot commit.
2021-06-05 08:16:52	rosco_y	aah, that's what I've been doing!
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2021-06-05 08:17:30	rosco_y	slowly but slowly, I'll learn how to work with git
2021-06-05 08:17:33	oush9	you can amend before pushing, but once it's out there, just add a new commit instead. other people depend on that consistency.
2021-06-05 08:17:57	oush9	well, that's a pretty common mistake. it fixes a lot of propblems.
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2021-06-05 08:18:01	rosco_y	:) thank you so much--that's what I didn't understand
2021-06-05 08:18:02	oush9	 * well, that's a pretty common mistake. it fixes a lot of problems.
2021-06-05 08:18:09	oush9	remember, to always pull befor epushing too
2021-06-05 08:18:13	oush9	(if you share the repo)
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2021-06-05 08:18:42	oush9	because you want to merge in other people's changes before pushing. this will avoid another pitfall.
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2021-06-05 08:19:33	rosco_y	running git status should inform you that you need to pull in that case, correct?
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2021-06-05 08:20:59	oush9	i think git status is only for the local tree. just `git pull`, it will tell you everything you need. however, in most cases that's unnecessary for a solo developer.
2021-06-05 08:21:09	rosco_y	Thanks osse_ oush9 !  I'd be really lost with ought your help!
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2021-06-05 08:22:33	oush9	hey another tip, merge into master very often, and push your local tree often. that way any conflicts are small.
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2021-06-05 08:22:51	oush9	i think it's called trunk based development.
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2021-06-05 08:23:11	oush9	rosco_y:
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2021-06-05 08:23:32	oush9	or another term: continuous integration
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2021-06-05 08:35:25	cbreak	trunk based development? Sounds SVN
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2021-06-05 15:21:05	blahboybaz	I don't know if anyone uses gitlab (cloud) but I'm having a really stupid problem and not sure where to turn for guidance. I've read some of their documentation and afaict I'm supposed to have group level wiki? I'm using free tier but I I thought everyone has it. I've looked in permissions and settings (I'm the only person using it / no team / no administrator but me) and there is nothing I can find in
2021-06-05 15:21:11	blahboybaz	any setting why it is not showing up. Has anyone else had this problem?
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2021-06-05 15:48:24	henk	blahboybaz: where to turn: to gitlab … you are a user of their service, so they should be able to provide info how to use it.
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2021-06-05 16:58:23	kek_	hi
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2021-06-05 16:59:32	kek_	if I wanted to manually apply a commit like https://github.com/envygeeks/pathutil/pull/5 what would be a good way to do that?
2021-06-05 17:03:15	cbreak	kek_: cherry-pick it
2021-06-05 17:05:00	kek_	cbreak, the local files of that pathutil gem are installed by bundle, their "package manager". So it's not a local git repo. Can I still use git to kind of merge it into the local files? Or would I have to do that manually? Cherry-pick only works with repos no?
2021-06-05 17:05:26	cbreak	git only works with git repos
2021-06-05 17:05:39	cbreak	no idea what a gem is
2021-06-05 17:06:14	kek_	cbreak, thanks that helps
2021-06-05 17:06:26	cbreak	if you want to "apply" the effect of a commit via git, you need to have a local git repo, and you have to have the commit you want as well, and git cherry-pick would get that commit's effect into your current branch as new commit
2021-06-05 17:07:02	cbreak	if you do not have a git repo, maybe you can do something via the `patch` command, but you'd then have to create a patch first.
2021-06-05 17:07:16	cbreak	and whether that applies cleanly is anyone's guess
2021-06-05 17:07:40	jast	hey, let's help cbreak learn something, too :>
2021-06-05 17:07:48	jast	gem is a package manager (and "package format") for ruby
2021-06-05 17:07:55	jast	the full name is rubygems
2021-06-05 17:08:24	jast	don't ask for details, I haven't used ruby in forever :)
2021-06-05 17:08:52	cbreak	ah, that japanese language
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2021-06-05 17:19:45	kek_	yeah, github pages uses jekyll which is built with ruby. Anyway, trying to fix it just gave me other errors. I think I'll try to use something else. thanks though
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2021-06-05 17:46:37	blahboybaz	I figured it out. Thanks
2021-06-05 17:47:21	blahboybaz	henk: Thanks. The situation for me was a little more complicated and I didn't want to dump all that here to try an explain it.
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2021-06-05 20:01:49	Voxel	Also GitExtensions
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2021-06-07 18:09:20	--	Topic for #git is "Welcome to #git, we like graphs | Consequences of the "freenode situation": https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html | Current stable version: 2.31.1 | Because of spam, currently your nick needs to be registered if you want to talk. Sorry!"
2021-06-07 18:09:20	--	Topic set by jast (jast@zoidberg.org) on Sat, 29 May 2021 11:58:40
2021-06-07 18:09:20	--	Channel #git: 622 nicks (0 ops, 0 voices, 622 normals)
2021-06-07 18:09:28	--	Channel created on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:42:45
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2021-06-08 01:07:13	Intelo	When I pull, get new changes, theres an automatic merge message generated which states the remote origin url. a) how can I choose not to have a merge commit (is it even possible?) b) How can I make some settings/configs that changes that message by default (I do not want to mention the remote url).
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2021-06-08 01:49:40	Fissure	Intelo: pull --rebase and the branch.<foo>.rebase and branch.autosetuprebase setting
2021-06-08 01:50:01	Fissure	but read the rebase docs first to understand what that actually does
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2021-06-08 01:51:49	Intelo	Fissure: I see. In a nutshell, the main issue is that I have 2 remotes. One for devs. One for client. I do not want the client to know the dirty commit history or names of devs and not even my own origin. For client, I just want him to see as if his remote is the only remote we work on in a clean manner.
2021-06-08 01:52:42	Intelo	Fissure: Any ideas on how to accomplish it? I used to do merge --squash myself but this is tideous and also the developers have to delete their branches and checkout/fetch again when I did merge
2021-06-08 01:53:13	Fissure	git is really not designed to have 2 different histories
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2021-06-08 01:54:01	Fissure	if you use an ssh alias, it will hide the hostname
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2021-06-08 02:09:37	Intelo	Fissure: perhaps I keep --squash merging on client remote and keep rebasing on developer remote?
2021-06-08 02:12:37	Fissure	--squash doesn't really work with repeated merges since it's not really a merge as far as the commit graph is concerned
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2021-06-08 06:01:24	tsdh	Is there some git feature which would let me mark some hunk in such a way that it cannot be staged?
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2021-06-08 12:39:45	Siecje	How do you list detached heads.
2021-06-08 12:40:00	Siecje	I have a co-worker that did a commit for a detached head and can't find the commit.
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2021-06-08 12:44:47	kenanmarasli	Siecje: If you know some info about the commit you can view it, e.g author, estimate date...
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2021-06-08 12:45:30	kenanmarasli	Detached head means that you are not at the 'head' of the branch, the commited branch is probably linked to some older commit that you have no other branch for.
2021-06-08 12:46:38	Siecje	correct
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2021-06-08 12:51:42	rewt	git reflog might have it
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2021-06-08 14:31:46	osse_	Siecje: git fsck --lost-found might help
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2021-06-09 04:52:33	Tuju	cbreak: i tried to push 'em but apparently it didn't succeed
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2021-06-09 04:55:27	henk	Tuju: maybe a good idea to ask in the-network-that-may-not-be-named, see /topic
2021-06-09 04:55:43	Tuju	heh, did that yesterday
2021-06-09 04:56:24	henk	ah, sorry
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2021-06-09 04:56:32	Tuju	no worries
2021-06-09 04:58:58	Tuju	i'm doing triangle changes, have remote origin at my server, i clone it to my workstation and push changes back to my server for others to see them in internet. But those pushes don't push submodules and repo is not complete.
2021-06-09 04:59:48	Tuju	of course there is 'the origin' in the internet to make it more complex but i think it's not relevant in my issue.
2021-06-09 05:00:28	osse_	if you want your server's repo to be complete you will have to host the submodules as well
2021-06-09 05:01:07	Tuju	yes, i'm trying to. i made empty --bare repo to server and pushed the whole thing there at the beginning.
2021-06-09 05:01:30	Tuju	and my workstation clone where i pushed, is complete, it compiles.
2021-06-09 05:01:40	Tuju	but if take clone --recursive from server, it does not.
2021-06-09 05:01:53	osse_	I mean you will have to host the submodules as distinct repos
2021-06-09 05:02:02	osse_	init --bare for each of them
2021-06-09 05:02:11	Tuju	hmmm... that might be the answer.
2021-06-09 05:02:22	Tuju	i try that, thanks osse_
2021-06-09 05:03:09	osse_	and host them so that the relative paths make sense
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2021-06-09 05:28:31	Tuju	osse_: you mean that i should make those as parallel repos at server. i can't access --bare repo at server end.
2021-06-09 05:28:59	Tuju	those repos at the final clone exist - of course inside the main repo.
2021-06-09 05:29:34	osse_	yes I mean that
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2021-06-09 05:45:07	Tuju	osse_: i managed to get it to work. :)
2021-06-09 05:45:12	Tuju	you were right.
2021-06-09 05:46:26	Tuju	it's bit confusing when those reside as parallel repos, but in workstation clone you go to peek into submodule, it shows it as full standalone repo. In .gitmodules file there are relative reference.
2021-06-09 05:46:54	Tuju	ha, now i get to proceed what i was actually doing.
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2021-06-09 08:24:53	PCatinean	Hi all, is it possible to update a remote submodule without cloning the actual submodules? Like changing just the commit hash?
2021-06-09 08:28:32	osse_	some low level update-index shit should do the needful
2021-06-09 08:29:19	osse_	PCatinean: try:  git update-index --cacheinfo 160000,hashhere,pathhere
2021-06-09 08:29:29	PCatinean	XD
2021-06-09 08:29:31	PCatinean	let me try
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2021-06-09 08:51:14	PCatinean	osse_, that seemed to have worked, I doubt this appeared in the documentation?
2021-06-09 08:51:20	PCatinean	Does not seem to be the standard way or such?
2021-06-09 08:52:08	osse_	the standard is just the obvious way. cd into the submodule, change stuff, cd back out, git add and git commit
2021-06-09 08:52:19	osse_	but it is documented in man git-update-index
2021-06-09 08:52:42	osse_	but the documentation assumes you know what you're doing
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2021-06-09 08:56:52	PCatinean	haha XD
2021-06-09 08:57:10	PCatinean	but if you do not recurse submodules then you cd into the submodule and there's nothing there
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2021-06-09 09:00:58	osse_	that's why the whole git-submodule command exists
2021-06-09 09:01:08	osse_	like git submodule init and git submodule update and such
2021-06-09 09:01:25	PCatinean	understood but in the end I assume it basically does what your command does
2021-06-09 09:01:32	PCatinean	just with a lot more work and data transfer
2021-06-09 09:01:44	PCatinean	albeit safer since you get the ref from the actual submodule
2021-06-09 09:01:52	PCatinean	whereas here you could enter an invalid sha I assume
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2021-06-09 09:34:59	Technodrome	if I create a new branch, and then do git checkout branchname , will all my changes stick?
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2021-06-09 09:37:52	osse_	define "stick"
2021-06-09 09:38:16	Technodrome	will it actually checkout and change the files there right now osse_ ?
2021-06-09 09:38:31	Technodrome	i want to take all my changes, change branch to mybranch, and then push them all there
2021-06-09 09:38:39	osse_	!float
2021-06-09 09:38:46	osse_	goddammit
2021-06-09 09:39:01	osse_	if you have uncommitted changes you may be able to switch branches
2021-06-09 09:39:05	osse_	if not, git will warn you
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2021-06-09 09:39:12	osse_	so you can just try
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2021-06-09 10:41:01	Tuju	osse_: i got my hairy setup working and got the work done, thank you for help.
2021-06-09 10:41:47	Tuju	i need to study can i hardwire the submodule version to main repo version somehow. now i need to move subs manually
2021-06-09 10:44:37	osse_	u fokin wot, m8
2021-06-09 10:44:53	osse_	the outer repo completely controls what version of each submodule to use
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2021-06-09 11:28:17	Technodrome	osse_ got it thanks
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2021-06-09 11:28:46	Technodrome	question, why is it a merge issue if i have changes and i do a git pull , can't it just do it automatically?
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2021-06-09 11:34:10	osse_	Technodrome: pull does a merge, and sometimes conflicts arise
2021-06-09 11:34:12	osse_	that's just how it is
2021-06-09 11:34:25	Technodrome	i just added a line nothing more
2021-06-09 11:34:38	Technodrome	then why does git add thatfile, fix the merge?
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2021-06-09 11:35:17	osse_	git add is how you tell git you have resolved the conflict
2021-06-09 11:35:44	osse_	you can't just git add without checking that the contents are good
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2021-06-09 13:55:20	Intelo	Fissure:  so for dev remote, I keep pulling with rebase. and in client remote, I keep pushing with merge --squash. If thats the way, my apparent problem of clean code and no dev info to client be seen will be solved but this will make the two remotes totally in different direction and history (compeletly unrelated). Do you think this would be a problem?
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2021-06-09 13:56:47	Fissure	I wouldn't want to work with that, but if it works for you...
2021-06-09 13:57:20	Fissure	I'd suggest writing a "release" script that copies the contents of the dev tip into a new commit on the client history
2021-06-09 14:00:02	Fissure	you may find git commit-tree's ability to create commit objects directly from an existing tree useful
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2021-06-09 15:15:21	alesan	hello
2021-06-09 15:16:29	alesan	so I made a commit with n files added. I now want to rewrite history and remove the changes I made to 2 files, like if the changes never happened
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2021-06-09 15:24:29	henk	alesan: you can checkout the 'original' files, commit that, then merge ('fix') the changes in an interactive rebase. if it’s sensitive material you are trying to remove, you need to say so because that will likely not completely remove that from everywhere but the changes should be gone in the history.
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2021-06-09 16:56:45	alesan	henk, yeah sorry I got caught with somethng else. No, no sensitive anything, I just added some automatically generated code that wasn't supposed to be in the repo for reading purposes, so instead of simply making another patch that contains even more unreadable material, I wanted to rebase so history is clean
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2021-06-09 16:57:35	alesan	now, what is the best way to "checkout the "original" file: let me think
2021-06-09 16:58:51	alesan	should I checkout the files I intend to revert only, right? hm...
2021-06-09 16:59:49	osse_	interactive rebase, mark the bad commit 'edit', when you are editing it run git checkout HEAD~ -- file(s) and then rebase --continue
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2021-06-09 17:05:24	alesan	ohh
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2021-06-09 17:06:03	alesan	osse_, is that the same as henk suggested or is it a ... more sophisticated way to do it?
2021-06-09 17:06:09	henk	oh, right, that’s even simpler
2021-06-09 17:06:16	alesan	which
2021-06-09 17:06:21	henk	what osse_ said
2021-06-09 17:06:53	alesan	OK
2021-06-09 17:07:04	alesan	I will now really think about it how it works and then try it
2021-06-09 17:07:37	alesan	I mean there is only one commit in this interactive rebase so it's the one I should mark edit
2021-06-09 17:08:08	alesan	I'll start with `git rebase -i ^HEAD`
2021-06-09 17:08:09	henk	well, probably almost equally difficult and complex but osse_’s way is more straightforward: directly change that one commit. while my way is: make a new commit reverting the change, then merge that into the other commit to undo the change in history
2021-06-09 17:08:27	henk	uh, wait
2021-06-09 17:08:34	alesan	what
2021-06-09 17:08:44	osse_	alesan: the ^ is in the wrong place. also, is the bad commit the most recent commit?
2021-06-09 17:08:45	henk	the commit you want to change is the last commit? not x commits before?
2021-06-09 17:08:49	osse_	heh
2021-06-09 17:08:50	alesan	oh
2021-06-09 17:08:59	alesan	yes there is only one commit, the last one, that I wish to change
2021-06-09 17:09:07	alesan	its very simple
2021-06-09 17:09:13	alesan	I just did this change
2021-06-09 17:09:13	osse_	oh
2021-06-09 17:09:24	osse_	git checkout HEAD~ -- file(s) and git commit --amend then
2021-06-09 17:10:00	henk	yeah, that. no rebase necessary.
2021-06-09 17:10:03	osse_	technically git rebase -i HEAD~ (or HEAD^ which is the same thing) would have worked
2021-06-09 17:10:10	alesan	so
2021-06-09 17:10:14	osse_	but that's just commit --amend with extra steps
2021-06-09 17:10:39	alesan	I need to lookup ~ and ^
2021-06-09 17:10:43	alesan	are they ALWAYS the same?
2021-06-09 17:10:46	alesan	probably not
2021-06-09 17:11:04	alesan	damn not easy to use google with ~ and ^
2021-06-09 17:11:14	alesan	they get ignored in the query ahha
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2021-06-09 17:12:31	alesan	ohhh ^ is used in merge (or multi-parent) commits
2021-06-09 17:13:00	alesan	I se
2021-06-09 17:13:17	osse_	x~ and x~ are the same, but x~2 and x^2 are not
2021-06-09 17:13:25	osse_	man gitrevisions has it all
2021-06-09 17:14:00	alesan	yeah
2021-06-09 17:14:05	alesan	yeah
2021-06-09 17:14:08	alesan	interesting
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2021-06-09 17:16:39	alesan	so I am in HEAD~. It's like everything went back obviously. Now should I re-edit all the good files so they are as I expect, leave the unwanted files alone (obviously) and then commit --amend?
2021-06-09 17:17:37	henk	you shouldn’t checkout HEAD~. you ran 'git checkout HEAD~', correct?
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2021-06-09 17:18:00	henk	run exactly what osse_ said: 'git checkout HEAD~ -- file anotherfile whateverfile'
2021-06-09 17:18:23	henk	(well, not exactly, insert your actual filenames)
2021-06-09 17:18:39	alesan	damn
2021-06-09 17:18:40	alesan	yes
2021-06-09 17:18:44	alesan	oh come on I'm dumb
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2021-06-09 17:18:50	alesan	ahah
2021-06-09 17:18:51	alesan	OK
2021-06-09 17:19:09	alesan	I did a `git checkout HEAD~` :)
2021-06-09 17:19:16	alesan	let me rectify
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2021-06-09 17:25:34	alesan	thank you so much
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2021-06-10 07:07:27	honigkuchen	I did a commit based on an older checkout and want to make it as top, but do not want to a new branch
2021-06-10 07:07:33	honigkuchen	how to do that
2021-06-10 07:08:05	snappy	"make it as top"?
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2021-06-10 07:09:53	honigkuchen	master, not a new branch
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2021-06-10 07:19:28	nedbat	honigkuchen: this will make master refer to that new commit:   git reset --hard <THAT_COMMIT_HASH>
2021-06-10 07:19:36	nedbat	honigkuchen: but this can be dangerous
2021-06-10 07:19:54	nedbat	honigkuchen: that is, checkout master, and then use reset
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2021-06-10 08:32:57	pepa	how do I pull from development to my branch called abc123 ?
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2021-06-10 08:39:33	henk	set the upstream with 'git branch --set-upstream-to …'
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2021-06-10 08:40:41	pepa	?
2021-06-10 08:41:49	henk	!
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2021-06-10 08:42:38	pepa	was that set upstream for me?
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2021-06-10 08:43:13	henk	yes
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2021-06-10 08:44:15	pepa	git branch --set-upstream-to development
2021-06-10 08:44:22	pepa	what does that do
2021-06-10 08:44:51	henk	man git-branch
2021-06-10 08:45:27	pepa	I don't want a new branch
2021-06-10 08:45:32	pepa	I'm already at a branch
2021-06-10 08:45:46	pepa	some dude added some stuff to "development"
2021-06-10 08:46:03	pepa	I need to bring that stuff to my branch "pepa-branchoid"
2021-06-10 08:46:54	henk	ok
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2021-06-10 08:49:01	pepa	I tried "git fetch origin development"
2021-06-10 08:49:05	pepa	didn't seem to fix
2021-06-10 08:49:35	osse_	sounds like you want git pull origin development
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2021-06-10 08:52:11	pepa	it says "please commit your changes or stash them before you merge"
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2021-06-10 08:52:34	pepa	how do I allow development to overwrite any local file with the version from development?
2021-06-10 08:52:53	osse_	by removing the uncommitted changes first
2021-06-10 08:53:23	osse_	there is a third alternative other than committing or stashing changes, and that's to get rid of them
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2021-06-10 12:30:02	paul_	hey, im in need of some assistance setting up my first repository to commit to github
2021-06-10 12:30:26	nedbat	paul_: ask, we can help
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2021-06-10 12:32:21	paul_	so i have a directory i wish to push from the command line to github. I created a new repository on the website and did a git init inside the directory. I tried a few of the commands from github and they aren't working
2021-06-10 12:32:35	paul_	what steps am i skipping ?
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2021-06-10 12:33:58	nedbat	paul_: can you pastebin the commands you tried? How aren't they working?
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2021-06-10 12:37:58	paul_	https://pastebin.com/MC3cHSN1
2021-06-10 12:38:09	paul_	thats a list of all the commands i ran and the errors.. pasted from terminal
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2021-06-10 12:42:21	nedbat	paul_: starting from the first failure: what was in the directory when you ran "git init"?  The git add says there was already a git repo there?
2021-06-10 12:47:22	paul_	nedbat: well theres a ton of files in there, but none of them are actually /.git files. there may be some auto generated ones in some of the subdirectories
2021-06-10 12:47:57	nedbat	paul_: git is really unlikely to be wrong about this.  where did the files come from? You should check for .git
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2021-06-10 12:53:55	paul_	so question, git says theres a /.git subdirectory in my main directory, why dno' i see it in ls
2021-06-10 12:55:51	nedbat	paul_: try "ls -a"
2021-06-10 12:56:02	nedbat	paul_: files starting with dot aren't shown by default.
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2021-06-10 12:56:19	paul_	ohh there it is. i see it now
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2021-06-10 13:02:06	paul_	ok so i've removed the lock file that seemed to be giving me issues for my git commit. I don't know if that's problematic or not. but i ran another git commit and it says and it says: fatal: this operation must be run in a work tree
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2021-06-10 13:20:34	nedbat	paul_: have you run "git init"?
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2021-06-10 13:21:05	paul_	Initialized empty Git repository in /home/paul/Desktop/minecraft/.git/
2021-06-10 13:23:05	nedbat	paul_: btw, where did this whole thing come from? If it was already a git repo, there are might bebetter ways to do this.
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2021-06-10 13:33:02	paul_	this folder is a minecraft server folder.
2021-06-10 13:34:16	paul_	there are too many files to drag and drop it
2021-06-10 13:34:54	paul_	but its my personalized server so i want to keep it separate from other servers
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2021-06-10 13:53:39	paul_	the files were made from build files not from another repo
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2021-06-10 13:58:04	nedbat	paul_: ok, I guess you ran git init twice then?
2021-06-10 14:00:01	paul_	i deleted the .git directory and ran it again
2021-06-10 14:00:13	paul_	haven't done anythign since, im just trying to research whats wrong
2021-06-10 14:00:25	paul_	my git version is way out of date but a new apt-get install doesn't help
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2021-06-10 14:30:47	joo	I was wondering if there is an easy way to achieve the following? I am storing accounting data in a bunch of json and ledger-cli files inside a git repo... i would like multiple machines to be able to work on the same repository at once and have the conflicts autoresolved. I think the strategy I would like to use for conflicts is that the most recent version of the file wins. Is this achieveable ?
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2021-06-10 15:40:08	rangergord	I had a submodule with the filesystem path 3rdparty/tools-misc, with the submodule path (on git server) being at ../tools-misc. I wanted to use a different submodule called submodule-test, so think I messed up by editing .gitmodules by hand and simply changing the path and names. https://paste.debian.net/1200774/   Then I committed and pushed to master. Now, even after deleting the local repo and recloning, git submodule init
2021-06-10 15:40:08	rangergord	only references the previous submodule tools-misc, not the new one submodule-test.
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2021-06-10 15:40:46	rangergord	I tried the stuff recommended online (git submodule deinit, rm -rf .git/modules, etc), neither worked
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2021-06-10 15:43:15	rangergord	Improved paste which shows the change I made to .gitmodules: https://paste.debian.net/1200776/
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2021-06-10 15:55:03	rangergord	I'm digging myself into a deeper hole :/
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2021-06-10 15:59:10	rangergord	Ok, got it. Gotta do "git rm --cached 3rdparty/tools-misc", then have to explicitly run "git submodule add" again. Editing .gitmodules is not enough.
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2021-06-10 19:12:06	paul_	anyone know where i can find specific instructions on how to build git 2.32
2021-06-10 19:12:12	paul_	from the make files
2021-06-10 19:12:25	paul_	it's appearrently not in my apt packages
2021-06-10 19:12:38	paul_	and i don't see any installation guy
2021-06-10 19:12:40	paul_	*gui
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2021-06-10 19:21:53	nedbat	paul_: what version of git do you have?
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2021-06-10 19:23:37	paul_	i had 2.25 but i found out how to add the repo from the git site. i missed that before. so im up to date now
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2021-06-10 20:02:51	paul_	i finally got it to push
2021-06-10 20:02:57	paul_	i think the update was what i really needed
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2021-06-11 02:29:48	mra90	I fail at git submodule update --init --checkout with error message "Server does not allow request for unadvertised object XXX"
2021-06-11 02:30:06	mra90	this only happens on one machine the other one pases this step fine
2021-06-11 02:30:09	mra90	what may be wrong?
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2021-06-11 10:38:19	cybrNaut	i need to "git fetch" changes to just one file, not the whole world of changes.  How can that be done?
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2021-06-11 10:40:43	rafasc	cybrNaut: git fetch doesn't work on a file basis. It works on commit/branch level.
2021-06-11 10:42:24	rafasc	there's partial clone support with --filter/sparse clones, but I suspect that's not the answer to your question.
2021-06-11 10:43:20	rafasc	are you trying to avoid running git fetch itself?
2021-06-11 10:43:49	cybrNaut	yeah i'm considering partial clone, but it's a mess.  It means having multiple pieces of a repo each in a different repo
2021-06-11 10:44:18	TomyWork	so, will there be a bridge to libera until this channel is closed?
2021-06-11 10:44:36	TomyWork	i dont see one right now
2021-06-11 10:44:38	cybrNaut	i can't just do a "git fetch" because the payload is too large for the gitea server, which fails mid-session
2021-06-11 10:45:16	rafasc	are incremental fetches an option?
2021-06-11 10:45:33	rafasc	git fetch with --deepen N
2021-06-11 10:46:18	cybrNaut	i didn't know there was such a thing.  I could try it, but i think that's likely to fail for the same reason
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2021-06-11 10:48:36	cybrNaut	oh shit, i just realized I never got a clone in the 1st place, because the download dies due to its size
2021-06-11 10:48:53	cybrNaut	i have an old clone from an old mirror
2021-06-11 10:49:36	rafasc	there's also --unshallow to convert shallow clones to full fledged ones.
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2021-06-11 10:50:46	cybrNaut	even a shallow clone dies because of the size.  maybe I can change the upstream repo to the new one on the old repo, and do a fetch --deepen
2021-06-11 10:51:43	rafasc	you don't need to change it, you can add more than one remote. But yeah.
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2021-06-11 11:13:49	cybrNaut	git really needs to get smarter.  wget, rsync, apt, .. lots of tools are able to recover from a failed download without starting over
2021-06-11 11:14:48	cybrNaut	anyway, the fetch worked because my old repo had the bulk of the data already
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2021-06-11 11:19:41	rafasc	I've had success with --depth/--deepen.
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2021-06-11 11:23:08	osse_	that's what she said
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2021-06-11 13:45:22	Fissure	cybrNaut: rsync was the original git transport protocol. Git isn't designed for large binary files; even the kernel history since 2005 is only a few gigabytes
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2021-06-11 15:21:21	rangergord	out of curiosity (dont want to clone to find out) is the current kernel git repo the entire history, or do they trim it from time to time?  like one repo for 2005-2010, one for 2010-2015, etc
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2021-06-11 15:29:54	rafasc	rangergord: the entire thing.
2021-06-11 15:30:54	rangergord	so people are waiting to clone a multi-GB repo when working on Linux? damn
2021-06-11 15:30:54	 *	PaMeDa 
2021-06-11 15:33:20	rafasc	there are ways to work around it, like shallow clones, sparse checkouts etc.
2021-06-11 15:33:45	rafasc	there is also partial clone support...
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2021-06-11 15:38:41	rafasc	and if you are working with the full repo, you only need to make the full once.. subsequent fetches will be much smaller.
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2021-06-11 15:41:45	rafasc	I just made a new clone, and seems it is around 3GB?
2021-06-11 15:42:02	rafasc	Receiving objects: 100% (8128421/8128421), 3.11 GiB | 12.18 MiB/s, done.
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2021-06-11 15:45:21	rafasc	4.6G    linux/ after compression
2021-06-11 15:47:08	rafasc	decompression*
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2021-06-11 15:54:49	rangergord	damn. How much of that is binary, I wonder
2021-06-11 15:55:16	joo	i just pushed from a 6 month old repo and did something with rebase false, but it was from an old repo, now that old repo has overwritten my github repo completely so i have lost all progress last 6 months, like it turned back time, and seems like no history available - is there any way to recover on github ? go back to the way it was yesterday ?
2021-06-11 15:56:14	henk	joo: did you push with --force?
2021-06-11 15:56:39	joo	dont think so, but i could have
2021-06-11 15:57:26	joo	i just cant believe that i did something with push and pull and merge on two computers and something with rebase and now it looks like all is lost, all commits/pushes for the last 6 months, can that really be true ?
2021-06-11 15:57:57	xD_	xD
2021-06-11 15:58:01	xD_	#1 backup
2021-06-11 15:58:41	henk	joo: unlikely. if you pushed with --force, then it’s possible.
2021-06-11 15:58:51	henk	joo: in any case: don’t panic.
2021-06-11 15:59:09	xD_	thats why i run my gitlab with zfs snapshots :P
2021-06-11 15:59:14	xD_	so rollback is easy
2021-06-11 15:59:31	rafasc	rangergord: from counting, only 36 files
2021-06-11 15:59:52	joo	henk, must admit i feel like panicking, i think i lost 4-5.000 lines of code :(
2021-06-11 15:59:56	henk	joo: check on all machines you have what the log looks like and which branches you have. ideally: show us.
2021-06-11 16:00:36	rangergord	rafasc: what command did you run to detect binary files in a directory recursively?
2021-06-11 16:00:38	henk	joo: I can imagine, that’s why I say it (: I have panicked often enough in similar situations, then just did some stuff in panic which made everything worse!
2021-06-11 16:00:41	joo	it is a private repository, i am developing a double entry open source (free software) double entry accounting system, but because of security concerns i am not able to release it yet :(
2021-06-11 16:00:43	rangergord	might come in handy one day for me :)
2021-06-11 16:01:01	rafasc	rangergord: grep -rIL .
2021-06-11 16:01:15	joo	i wonder if there is anybody inhere that are more experts than me that may be able to help, i can pay for this service
2021-06-11 16:01:59	xD_	maybe github can recover a snapshot?
2021-06-11 16:02:31	joo	yeah i will try and ask them about this... if thats not possible, that wouldnt be a very good service i guess
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2021-06-11 16:02:39	rangergord	rafasc: that returns both binary and text
2021-06-11 16:03:01	rafasc	binary and empty
2021-06-11 16:03:10	rafasc	-L negates the results.
2021-06-11 16:03:14	rangergord	oh, right
2021-06-11 16:03:25	rangergord	I guess I have lots of empty .txt files in my home
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2021-06-11 16:08:06	xD_	joo: maybe you should consider hosting private repos on your own instance so you got full control
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2021-06-11 16:08:49	joo	yeah i will consider that, i just thought github could always save my ass, like it has done for the 8 years i spent developing this project
2021-06-11 16:08:59	rafasc	rangergord: and most of the files seem to be empty too. Just two or three are binaries.
2021-06-11 16:09:03	xD_	like gitea or gitlab with docker and zfs bellow
2021-06-11 16:10:15	xD_	and you could zfs send or rsync those containers
2021-06-11 16:10:33	xD_	i mean a vps is just 3eur/month
2021-06-11 16:10:34	xD_	:P
2021-06-11 16:10:40	xD_	and ppl rely on cloud shit
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2021-06-11 16:11:11	henk	joo: you are aware that I was trying to help, right? do you already know that I’m not more expert than you?
2021-06-11 16:11:47	joo	henk, i would really appreciate Your help, and I am sure You are much more expert than me !
2021-06-11 16:12:07	rafasc	have you look at $ git reflog;
2021-06-11 16:12:52	joo	reflog has some stuff inside it, but i am not sure what to do with it
2021-06-11 16:12:59	joo	it looks like it could be some recent stuff
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2021-06-11 16:14:42	henk	joo: show us?
2021-06-11 16:14:54	joo	henk, ok i am trying now
2021-06-11 16:15:14	henk	(use a pastebin, like ix.io or termbin.com or so)
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2021-06-11 16:16:10	joo	https://pastebin.com/c5a8dvQf
2021-06-11 16:16:14	rafasc	there's also https://api.github.com/users/<username>/events
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2021-06-11 16:16:43	rafasc	you may be able to recover some info from that.
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2021-06-11 16:17:07	joo	the api.githug event log is empty ( [] )
2021-06-11 16:18:05	joo	the stuff about remote-tracking branch is definitely accidental, but not sure what caused it, or if that is causing me any problems
2021-06-11 16:18:34	rafasc	what about !lol
2021-06-11 16:18:52	joo	!lol
2021-06-11 16:18:59	rafasc	RIP, we no longer have the bot here.
2021-06-11 16:19:01	joo	(thought it was some kind of irc command, lol) :-)
2021-06-11 16:19:16	rafasc	the bot moved to the irc network that should not be named
2021-06-11 16:19:53	rafasc	A nifty view of branches, tags, and other refs: git log --oneline --graph --decorate --all
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2021-06-11 16:20:33	joo	https://pastebin.com/Gn5jRP2V
2021-06-11 16:20:50	henk	joo: hm, the log looks like there are commits from the last few months … try 'git log --patch' and see whether the changes in those commits are the code you are missing.
2021-06-11 16:21:32	rafasc	or use that command, but instead of using --all use --reflog
2021-06-11 16:21:45	joo	henk, lol that actually looks like it, not 100%, but i think so
2021-06-11 16:22:39	henk	joo: ok, now, don’t panic! and don’t just do shit (; make a copy of your git repo, so if you fsck anything up during recovery, you can still go back to the current state.
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2021-06-11 16:23:20	rafasc	henk++
2021-06-11 16:24:08	joo	doing backup now, may take a while, i think my repo is 15GB :D
2021-06-11 16:24:13	henk	currently it sounds to me like you may just have made some commits that made you lose code you already had but it sounds like you can just go back to before that commit. it’s always a bit hard to tell with remote hands …
2021-06-11 16:24:43	joo	ah ok its "only" 2.5gb it looks like
2021-06-11 16:25:03	joo	done :-)
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2021-06-11 16:26:33	joo	i really hope You are right... usually i can always go back with checkout the commit no, but this may be a little different because i did something with rebase
2021-06-11 16:26:57	henk	that 'fork' you see in the first few characters of the first 18 lines in https://pastebin.com/Gn5jRP2V: I’d probably use "git log --patch" now to look at the changes done there and try to understand the history in the repo. if you see that any of those changes made you lose code you did not want to lose, that’s probably where shit went sideways and that’s what you need to fix.
2021-06-11 16:27:56	henk	you can look at any intermediary state to see whether that’s the state you are looking for by just checking out one of these commits, e.g. 'git checkout 42b5f25c'
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2021-06-11 16:28:27	henk	you can get back to the most current state with 'git checkout master'
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2021-06-11 16:32:11	joo	like before the deletion to the 6 month old version, it says index 378afaf8..42086e6b 100755
2021-06-11 16:32:38	joo	but other deltions has different indexes
2021-06-11 16:35:18	henk	sorry, I don’t follow …
2021-06-11 16:35:52	joo	i am looking in the patch, i found a place with red lines indicating the deltion of the code i am missing
2021-06-11 16:36:01	joo	so i am trying to find out what to checkout
2021-06-11 16:36:13	joo	but it is like every file has different index
2021-06-11 16:36:28	joo	and probably 50-100 files were changed or deleted
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2021-06-11 16:41:32	henk	maybe 'git log --stat' gives an indication what commit went wrong?
2021-06-11 16:41:58	henk	I’m guessing it would affect a lot of files and has a lot of -
2021-06-11 16:43:03	joo	it looks perfect like everything is ok, just what i wanted to commit, but yet the files are not really there in that state, and certainly not on github
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2021-06-11 16:43:28	joo	pretty much no deletions
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2021-06-11 16:44:46	joo	https://pastebin.com/w4i8NDyB
2021-06-11 16:46:21	henk	ok. so, what’s the actual problem? have an example of a file that’s not there but you think it should be? run 'git log thatfile' and see what that says.
2021-06-11 16:46:45	joo	oh wait, i just checkout that one
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2021-06-11 16:49:44	joo	this looks pretty good man
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2021-06-11 16:50:56	joo	now how can i push this to the master branch ? :-)
2021-06-11 16:51:25	henk	depends, what is your current 'git status'?
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2021-06-11 16:53:06	joo	https://pastebin.com/U7ii2imn
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2021-06-11 16:55:24	henk	hm, I’m a bit confused TBH … that’s just the last commit before the merge. and it has unstaged changes? o_O
2021-06-11 16:56:01	joo	not sure what is going on with them modules, dont use them, they sometimes make some noise
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2021-06-11 16:56:23	joo	i guess i could check out them
2021-06-11 16:57:53	henk	the merge itself shouldn’t make any changes … are you absolutely certain that 'git reset --hard; git checkout master' is not the state you want?
2021-06-11 16:58:25	joo	not sure what that would do under these circumstances
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2021-06-11 17:00:27	henk	discard the unstaged changes but since you said that you don’t use/need those modules and the other change is a file deletion and you have a backup anyway, that’s ok, I’d think.
2021-06-11 17:01:13	joo	usually i can discard by checking out the file, but has no effect
2021-06-11 17:03:19	joo	but if i run checkout on them, they are still in the status
2021-06-11 17:03:53	joo	looks like they are "dirty" https://pastebin.com/cMnBK1pv
2021-06-11 17:04:19	henk	oh, subprojects … I’m out :D
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2021-06-11 17:04:31	joo	i dont even use them, i wish they were gone :)
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2021-06-11 17:21:25	joo	What is the best way to thank some dude who saved Your life on a irc channel ?
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2021-06-11 17:23:04	henk	I usually just go with "thanks, dude, you saved my life!"
2021-06-11 17:23:38	joo	Yeah I thought so too, but i feel like moving Your lawn or something :D
2021-06-11 17:24:51	henk	lol, wish I had a lawn (; just pass it on and help someone else, maybe it’ll close the circle. I have gotten so much help from other people on IRC that I’m really just trying to give something back wherever I can (:
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2021-06-11 17:26:16	joo	I will definitely pass it on and more !!!! :-) Love You man
2021-06-11 17:26:30	joo	thanks, dude, you saved my life!
2021-06-11 17:27:40	henk	you’re welcome, glad I could help (:
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2021-06-11 18:54:36	Nalt	Hello, I am brand new to using git. I do not understand branching. What is the difference in the "Main" branch and another that you create?
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2021-06-11 18:56:52	osse_	Nalt: none, technically
2021-06-11 18:57:17	Nalt	uhm..
2021-06-11 18:57:41	osse_	uhm indeed
2021-06-11 18:58:01	jast	have you ever wanted to work on two independent versions of a project at the same time?
2021-06-11 18:58:16	jast	like, an old but still maintained version and a more up-to-date version
2021-06-11 18:59:03	Nalt	well I am new to this so, no, I haven't
2021-06-11 18:59:07	jast	or maybe a feature that you want to get out there so people can look at it and test it, but you're not ready to make it "official" yet
2021-06-11 18:59:12	jast	that's what branches are for basically
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2021-06-11 18:59:39	Nalt	I am following this https://learngitbranching.js.org/
2021-06-11 19:00:26	jast	yeah, but that's basically the idea of why you'd use branches - to work on two versions independently
2021-06-11 19:00:52	jast	and they can stay independent forever, or they can be "merged" back together at some point (e.g. when that exciting new feature is ready to become part of your project)
2021-06-11 19:01:18	Nalt	Interesting. Though I can't really imagine why you would want this.
2021-06-11 19:01:25	Nalt	I didn't understand your example
2021-06-11 19:01:29	jast	it's usually not that relevant for smaller projects
2021-06-11 19:01:37	jast	but let's talk about what I do at my day job for a moment
2021-06-11 19:01:45	osse_	you working something. boss comes in and says "stop that! I need you to fix this other thing first!!!!"
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2021-06-11 19:02:00	jast	we write software, hosted on our own machines, that is used by tens of thousands of people
2021-06-11 19:02:00	cybrNaut	Fissure: "Git isn't designed for large binary files" <= in my case, it's text files.  the problem is that the gitea server is extra fragile.  try this: "git clone https://git.nogafam.es/deCloudflare/deCloudflare.git"  It will fail quite early.
2021-06-11 19:02:24	jast	when we work on something new, we don't want to push it out there straight away. we want to test it internally, work on it a little, maybe tweak the interface and the documentation
2021-06-11 19:02:43	jast	at the same time, if we find a critical issue in the current "live" code, we want to fix that but our new development work shouldn't get in the way
2021-06-11 19:02:52	jast	so, we have a branch for the "live" version, and a branch for what's in development
2021-06-11 19:03:04	jast	if a critical fix becomes necessary, we switch to the live version and do it there
2021-06-11 19:03:16	jast	in reality we have a few more branches than that, but that's the basic principle
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2021-06-11 19:06:23	Syzygy	Nalt, imagine working on a project together with other people. Both you and another developer want to implement two different large features. thanks to branches each of you can work on their own independent version and only need to take care of merging it back together when you're both done. without branches you run the risk of interfering with each other with every commit.
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2021-06-11 19:07:20	osse_	oh well
2021-06-11 19:07:38	Syzygy	Or you work on an experimental feature that might or might not be used in the future. you implement that in a branch and then you have the choice to either merge it into master or abandon the branch.
2021-06-11 19:08:05	osse_	our dude timed out
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2021-06-11 19:32:02	Nalt	Apologies, I disconnected for a little while. thank you for the information osse_ , jast
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2021-06-11 19:33:43	Syzygy	Nalt, imagine working on a project together with other people. Both you and another developer want to implement two different large features. thanks to branches each of you can work on their own independent version and only need to take care of merging it back together when you're both done. without branches you run the risk of interfering with each other with every commit.
2021-06-11 19:33:46	Syzygy	Or you work on an experimental feature that might or might not be used in the future. you implement that in a branch and then you have the choice to either merge it into master or abandon the branch.
2021-06-11 19:34:15	Nalt	Ah okay! That makes a lot of sense to me.
2021-06-11 19:34:58	Syzygy	or a main version, with slight modifications for different clients
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2021-06-12 04:32:07	TwoTimesMcCoy	Hi all, one small query, how to retrieve a function name from git diff if it’s present in diff body? Thanks
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2021-06-12 04:42:33	TwoTimesMcCoy	Hi all, one small query regarding git diff. How to retrieve function name if it’s present inside diff body instead of hunk header? Thanks
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2021-06-12 07:09:39	falcon74	Hi. Absolute git newbie here. I have done 'git clone <github/project>' into my working directory, and made some edits to one of the source file. I have no real intention (at least in the short run) to check-in anything, make a PR etc., as I am only surfing the code of a complex Go project while annotating my understanding as comments. However
2021-06-12 07:09:39	falcon74	VScode the IDE I am using, keep complaining about code pending merge. Is there something I should do to stop getting those notifications ? For now I've done a `git add <filename>`. Is that what I should keep doing ?
2021-06-12 07:11:28	nedbat	falcon74: i don't use VScode, but that sounds kind of aggressive of it.  How significant are these warnings?
2021-06-12 07:13:48	falcon74	I am new to VScode as well, but I suspect there is a way to suppress VScode from checking for unmerged changes or warning about those. However, I still wanted to understand the right thing (or recommended thing) to do when I've done a `git clone` and just want to keep the changes personal in my workspace ? I do not mind doing the `git add` if it is
2021-06-12 07:13:48	falcon74	*the* right thing.
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2021-06-12 07:18:08	nedbat	falcon74: you shouldn't need to take any action, you can just edit the files.
2021-06-12 07:18:17	nedbat	falcon74: it's normal for a dev to have changed files in their working tree.
2021-06-12 07:18:25	nedbat	falcon74: what do the warnings look like?
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2021-06-12 07:21:33	falcon74	Since I had done 'git add <file>' to get around the warnings I don't see them anymore. Once I see them again, I've take a screenshot. They are however not very intrusive. They do not prevent me from continuing to browse or edit code, but they show as a warning-counter badge on one of the icons that also conveys some other useful information, so is
2021-06-12 07:21:33	falcon74	a bit of a distraction.
2021-06-12 07:23:17	nedbat	falcon74: you can probably disable that git integration. Or if you truly don't intend to do git things in that directory, delete the .git subdirectory
2021-06-12 07:23:27	falcon74	ok
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2021-06-12 07:24:00	falcon74	Deleting .git in that directory seems like a good approach.
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2021-06-12 07:24:48	falcon74	OTOH, if say I were to be interested to check-in the changes (eventually) in my personal github.com account, `git add` would be the right thing to do, correct ?
2021-06-12 07:25:57	nedbat	falcon74: sorry, i don't use VScode, so i don't know what these "warnings" are. I hope they aren't literally warning, and instead just intrusive "infos".
2021-06-12 07:26:28	nedbat	falcon74: when i have watched other devs demo things in VSCode, I have been very distracted by all the bits of information it floats all over the place. It feels like trying to write code in the middle of Times Square.
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2021-06-12 07:28:55	falcon74	nedbat sure I understand that. If we were to remove VSCode from the equation, let's say I were to be using vim or Emacs instead, is it that every once a while I should be doing `git add` after making changes ? The comments I am adding, might be useful in general (though it is not something that is my immediate aim or concern).
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2021-06-12 07:29:43	nedbat	falcon74: when you are done with a change (whatever that means), you add it and commit it.
2021-06-12 07:30:02	falcon74	got it, thanks @nedbad
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2021-06-12 07:30:22	falcon74	nedbat: sorry about the typo
2021-06-12 07:31:05	falcon74	And doing `git add` multiple times, without doing a `git commit` is quite fine, I suppose ?
2021-06-12 07:31:53	nedbat	falcon74: sure, but there usually isn't a reason to
2021-06-12 07:32:13	falcon74	ok
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2021-06-12 08:43:26	dka	hi
2021-06-12 08:43:29	dka	need git master
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2021-06-12 08:44:17	dka	someone told me to revert it's commit : https://github.com/pass-culture/pass-culture-app-native/commit/62b5261f6be99fa48773306230484e126f24c058 , I didn't know how to revert so I tried to fix and and pushed many, now I want to revert so I can deploy from master
2021-06-12 08:44:21	dka	i still don't know how to do
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2021-06-12 10:22:05	NCS_One	hi
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2021-06-12 10:23:36	NCS_One	is there a way to see the changes a merge did to master? merged branch is already deleted and I don't know when it was created or deleted
2021-06-12 10:25:32	henk	git diff, I’d assume?
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2021-06-12 10:28:31	NCS_One	?
2021-06-12 10:29:08	NCS_One	the changes were commited on the branch and then the branch was merged into master
2021-06-12 10:29:27	NCS_One	since then other commits were add to master
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2021-06-12 10:30:28	nedbat	NCS_One: if you know the merge commit, you can use git diff to see what it did
2021-06-12 10:31:19	NCS_One	nedbat: I don't
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2021-06-12 10:32:15	NCS_One	is there a way to find it?
2021-06-12 10:32:20	NCS_One	nedbat: ^
2021-06-12 10:32:26	nedbat	NCS_One:what *do* you know about this merge?
2021-06-12 10:32:42	nedbat	how do you even know it happened?
2021-06-12 10:35:56	NCS_One	nedbat: I was the one that did it, I need the exact changes done in that branch
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2021-06-12 10:37:37	NCS_One	"15:30 < nedbat> NCS_One: if you know the merge commit, you can use git diff to see what it did"
2021-06-12 10:38:25	NCS_One	the merge commit is different from the normal commits?
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2021-06-12 10:55:36	nedbat	NCS_One: ok. do you have any factoid from the branch or merge? Do you know a particular line that was definitely changed?
2021-06-12 10:56:15	NCS_One	yes
2021-06-12 10:57:22	nedbat	NCS_One: use "git blame" to look find the commit that changed that line
2021-06-12 10:57:57	NCS_One	nedbat: but it wasn't only 1 commit
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2021-06-12 10:58:17	nedbat	NCS_One: there was only one merge commit.  find that commit
2021-06-12 10:58:35	NCS_One	I created a new branch, did a lot of changes and commits, then merged the branch and deleted
2021-06-12 10:58:43	NCS_One	ohhh
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2021-06-12 11:02:23	NCS_One	nedbat: found it, thanks
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2021-06-12 11:12:31	NCS_One	how can I make this commits show on `git log`?
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2021-06-12 11:47:10	nedbat	NCS_One: if you have the hash of the commit (for example, 123abc), try this:   git diff 123abc^!
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2021-06-12 11:53:55	NCS_One	nedbat: yes, but the commit I got from `get blame` does't show on `git log`, or at least I didn't found it
2021-06-12 11:54:54	nedbat	NCS_One: did you try the git diff command?
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2021-06-12 11:57:17	NCS_One	nedbat: yes it shows all the changes
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2021-06-12 12:04:18	nedbat	NCS_One: so, success?
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2021-06-13 15:44:01	--	Topic set by jast (jast@zoidberg.org) on Sat, 29 May 2021 11:58:40
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2021-06-14 05:03:01	KarmenJello	hello
2021-06-14 05:03:17	KarmenJello	i have a branch and a tag which i would like to diff, how can i do that?
2021-06-14 05:03:46	KarmenJello	i know to compare tags it's just git diff tag1 tag2, but how do you do it if you're comparing a tag to a branch?
2021-06-14 05:03:54	osse_	same procedure
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2021-06-14 05:04:06	osse_	git diff x y where x and y are both stuff that git can find a commit from
2021-06-14 05:04:14	KarmenJello	oh
2021-06-14 05:04:30	KarmenJello	what would happen if you had a tag that was the same name as a branch?
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2021-06-14 05:04:39	KarmenJello	how does it know which one to compare?
2021-06-14 05:04:42	osse_	git diff master feature; git diff abc1234 feature; git diff HEAD~5 v1.2.4
2021-06-14 05:04:56	KarmenJello	ah ok
2021-06-14 05:05:01	osse_	My guess is you get "ambiguous reference" or something
2021-06-14 05:05:23	KarmenJello	thank you osse_
2021-06-14 05:06:10	osse_	actually it seems to prioritize tags for some reason
2021-06-14 05:06:47	osse_	ah, there is a procedure to it, man gitrevisions
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2021-06-14 05:07:24	KarmenJello	cool cool
2021-06-14 05:07:35	KarmenJello	also, is there a way to diff a certain folder only?
2021-06-14 05:07:59	KarmenJello	there are lots of diffs but im only interested in the diff of a particular folder
2021-06-14 05:08:19	KarmenJello	ah looks like you just provide a path
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2021-06-14 08:01:13	lbracher	Hi there! Is it possible to access commits previously squashed in a rebase? If yes, how then? TIA!
2021-06-14 08:05:34	osse_	lbracher: for a while, yes.
2021-06-14 08:06:03	osse_	look at the reflog for the rebased branch, then once you identify the branch pre-rebase you can git log that-thing
2021-06-14 08:06:24	osse_	e.g.  git reflog myfeature, then git log  myfeature@{3}  or whatever
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2021-06-14 16:09:00	joako	Where does git client store the password?
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2021-06-14 16:10:05	Fissure	joako: what protocol? SSH? the raw Git protocol doesn't do authentication
2021-06-14 16:10:25	joako	Fissure: HTTP/HTTPS
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2021-06-14 16:11:01	joako	I do not have the file ~/.git-credentials BTW
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2021-06-14 16:11:39	Fissure	Ah. I've never used HTTPS auth
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2021-06-14 16:15:46	oxek	joako: maybe ~/.config/git
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2021-06-14 16:17:29	rangergord	So, about submodules...how do most projects access them, https or ssh? Git does the git thing and makes it so that if you add it with an https URL, ssh users can't pull it, and if you add it with an ssh URL, https users can't pull it. I know about the relative path trick, which only works when both projects are hosted on the same domain, but is that the official method, sanctioned from on high by Junio?
2021-06-14 16:19:01	rangergord	I hit a wall on Bitbucket Pipelines with that relative path trick which I had been using. I set up ssh keys, but they can't init/update/pull the submodule.
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2021-06-14 17:31:25	Kaedenn1	I have a bunch of commits all made to master and I'd like to move them to their own feature branch and out of master.
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2021-06-14 17:41:19	osse_	Kaedenn1: on master, do: git branch newbranch; git reset --hard HEAD~5 or whatever
2021-06-14 17:41:53	Kaedenn1	...doesn't git branch switch to that branch?
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2021-06-14 18:31:54	osse_	Kaedenn1: no
2021-06-14 18:32:01	Kaedenn1	oh, ok
2021-06-14 18:32:14	osse_	Unlike checkout -b
2021-06-14 18:32:35	osse_	This'll just create a new branch at the current commit
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2021-06-15 11:17:04	greg	Hi, can someone help me checkout a git repo behind a proxy?
2021-06-15 11:18:23	greg	I'm seeting https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zz8nb4BsgQ/
2021-06-15 11:19:57	greg	but with curl and the gh api I can see it does exist inside the proxy: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MV8G7P29gC/
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2021-06-15 12:12:34	TomyLobo2	greg, connect to irc.libera.chat. freenode is imploding
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2021-06-15 13:55:51	maryo	Mistakenly I have committed code in a public repository using my official email ID. Is there a way to update all my commit email IDs in the repository ?
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2021-06-15 17:20:56	alesan	hello
2021-06-15 17:20:58	alesan	I would like a small clarification on submodules. In its "default" behavior, a submodule is referenced to a specific commit, right?
2021-06-15 17:21:03	alesan	where is that commit stored...
2021-06-15 17:21:05	alesan	OK it the git database thing
2021-06-15 17:21:07	alesan	however I have a project where in .gitsubmodule there is an entry branch = branch/name regarding that submodule
2021-06-15 17:21:10	alesan	what are the implications here? is the commit reference discarded and the submodule is always updated to whatever commit that branch is?
2021-06-15 17:21:31	henk	oh, there is no /topic anymore o_O
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2021-06-15 17:22:05	henk	anyway: #git moved somewhere else, see https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
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2021-06-15 17:22:43	henk	ah, I’m on "now" freenode now …
2021-06-15 17:22:56	henk	errr, "new"
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2021-06-15 18:13:33	alesan	I don't really wish to move to a different server
2021-06-15 18:13:43	alesan	anybody here that likes to discuss git or...?
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2021-06-15 19:14:16	jast	to everyone else who's been out of the loop: freenode deleted all channel and user registrations. the only current op is some random person. I guess that is the end of #git on freenode. We have regrouped on Libera Chat.
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2021-06-15 19:16:35	alesan	why that is the end of this channel - who cares who is the op?
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2021-06-15 19:18:03	jast	feel free to keep talking... but this essentially means that nobody will be able to do anything about spambots and the like
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2021-06-15 19:18:45	jast	there is no topic and nobody can set one (unless the random person who happens to be an op right now registers the channel)
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2021-06-15 19:19:03	jast	if the random person happens to reconnect, the channel will likely be op-less forever
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2021-06-15 19:28:40	jast	anyway, I guess this is my cue to leave. if anyone wants to join the new main stage, we're in #git on irc.libera.chat (like it says on the git website).
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2021-06-16 00:25:06	Intelo	How to push a different branch in a different remote branch. I see that `git push origin master` does not work while local branch currently is `someOther`
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2021-06-16 00:28:30	Hash	Intelo: add a remote and push that branch to that remote
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2021-06-16 01:03:40	Intelo	git push origin local-name:remote-name
2021-06-16 01:03:41	Intelo	solved
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2021-06-16 01:04:00	Intelo	Hash: the exact command was required ^
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2021-06-16 02:25:30	LeMike	hello there. I added some "refs/foo/*" to store some special branches. I also push those to the main repository. Problem is that when I do "git fetch --all --prune" (with just 1 remote) that my local copies of "refs/foo/*" get deleted too even when they exist remotely. How can I prevent that?
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2021-06-16 03:47:19	henk	LeMike: https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
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2021-06-16 12:44:09	Masterphi	Now that BB smart mirroring is scheduled for deprecation. Does anyone have a suggestion for a cache/proxy layer for git? (preferably that works with SSH instead of HTTPS)
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2021-06-16 12:49:19	knittl	Masterphi: this channel has been silent since freenode deleted all user accounts and channels. you are more likely to get a response in #git on libera.chat
2021-06-16 12:49:49	Masterphi	knittl Thanks
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2021-06-17 16:50:14	Flyste	I'm getting e-mail about the deprecation of passwords but I can't figure out where on github.com to switch security methods.  Anybody know how to switch to something else for command line git
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2021-06-17 17:04:04	henk	fling: #git on freenode is mostly abandoned, see https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
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2021-06-17 17:13:26	h3ck	Hi, I'm working on a project where it requires me to pull data from another repo and use it for the current repo. I found submodule feature handy here. However, it's a bit difficult to understand as a beginner
2021-06-17 17:13:38	h3ck	Is there any other way to do the same job? 
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2021-06-17 17:24:45	henk	h3ck: #git on freenode is mostly abandoned, see https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html
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2021-06-17 17:25:16	h3ck	Ahh, ok thanks :)
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2021-06-18 04:39:06	Guest20	hi there
2021-06-18 04:39:20	Guest20	is it possible to delete some content from the commit
2021-06-18 04:39:25	Guest20	or history
2021-06-18 04:40:34	henk	Guest20: #git on freenode is mostly abandoned, the community moved on to another irc network, see https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html for more information and where to find them now.
2021-06-18 04:40:50	Guest20	oh why is that
2021-06-18 04:40:58	Guest20	i see #python is also inactive
2021-06-18 04:42:11	henk	the link has more info (;
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2021-06-18 04:49:27	SNPrYLKiMGyu	If your channel was incorrectly marked in this, please let our staff know and we'll remediate it asap.
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2021-06-18 04:49:27	bDdPVXAwSg	Seems totally unsourced and unlikely
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2021-06-18 04:49:27	msDIqihB	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 04:49:41	gkBzRWiNaU	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 04:49:43	PCZZDCSqZNNc	reply
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2021-06-18 04:49:45	qXaWpjZbE	So freenode lost 7.6 thousand users (9.9%) while libera gained 7.2 thousand users (39%) within the last couple of days.
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2021-06-18 04:49:45	UgXORnWPWnC	Great job, Andrew Lee. 
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2021-06-18 04:49:56	nZMGVlKVhX	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 04:49:57	lZwIEisnSTeY	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 04:49:57	bgnPhwKk	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 04:49:58	lUlovHKtPJ	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
2021-06-18 04:49:58	yDgldaNSJaA	Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 04:50:00	ncndUQaRXgn	We have deprecated the function "get_channel()" please use ".channel" instead...
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2021-06-18 04:50:21	qVqsQQWYwQ	That only solves half the problem. There's no easy (read: 1 click) way of quoting an older message. No easy way of handling notifications (read: not PMs but when someone mentions you in a channel like @handle in other chat services), no easy way of handling roaming, etc.
2021-06-18 04:50:22	JKgeSTHp	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 04:50:32	yDgldaNSJaA	Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 04:50:35	henk	oh ffs what now
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2021-06-18 04:50:36	ICKalZBgsala	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
2021-06-18 04:50:38	qVqsQQWYwQ	That only solves half the problem. There's no easy (read: 1 click) way of quoting an older message. No easy way of handling notifications (read: not PMs but when someone mentions you in a channel like @handle in other chat services), no easy way of handling roaming, etc.
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2021-06-18 04:50:41	PoumfyDgm	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
2021-06-18 04:50:43	uceIyDBDFyEP	reply
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2021-06-18 04:50:49	kLTOpjexR	im3w1l 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 04:50:51	RNPexSdi	> The large active network of federating XMPP servers would disagree with you.
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2021-06-18 08:24:12	wender	is it possible to launch diff (for all files changed) between two hashes?
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2021-06-18 10:17:11	bobsaget	anyone here familiar with git-crypt? i want to decrypt the items in a repository when it is cloned with --mirror 
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2021-06-18 10:17:55	bobsaget	normally git-crypt knows what to do because there is a .gitattributes configuration and a directory with keys and some configuration checked in to the repository
2021-06-18 10:18:48	henk	bobsaget: #git on freenode is mostly abandoned, the community moved on to another irc network, see https://gitirc.eu/fnmove.html for more information and where to find them now.
2021-06-18 10:19:10	bobsaget	what happened to freenode? i noticed that irccloud was klined
2021-06-18 10:19:21	bobsaget	oh maybe ill click the link
2021-06-18 10:20:11	gustaf	bobsaget: *all* the shit went down
2021-06-18 10:20:33	gustaf	it was one unbelievble thing after another
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2021-06-18 10:23:14	bobsaget	holy mcshitnuts
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2021-06-18 10:33:59	bobsaget	still confused about klining irccloud
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2021-06-18 12:02:34	gustaf	apparently it's paid software leaching off FOSS
2021-06-18 12:03:08	gustaf	but really, you need to be in the #freenode channel when rasengan is there, basically doing free form poetry
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2021-06-18 13:56:38	henk	bobsaget: some more links about the recent changes in freenode, in no particular order, some redundant, some biased, most opinionated: https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse2 https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide https://0x0.st/-L59.txt https://kline.sh/ https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt
2021-06-18 13:56:40	henk	http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/o01tmv/freenode_wipes_old_database_and_starts_over/h1sxy13/ https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/ https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus
2021-06-18 13:56:42	henk	https://gerikson.com/blog/comm/Farrago-of-Freenode-fuckery.html https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/05/26/gentoo-freenode-channels-hijacked.html http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txt https://linux.chat/linux-on-freenode/ https://fosspost.org/freenode-is-irc-as-in-dumbest-takeover-in-history/
2021-06-18 13:56:44	henk	https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/nyp855/new_freenode_management_hijacks_linux_rust_and/ https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/ 
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2021-06-18 13:58:46	bobsaget	fascinating
2021-06-18 14:00:17	henk	gustaf: is he called 'rasengan' still/again? I know that was the nick before everything was reset and I think shortly after that it was 'root' but I’m not really following …
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2021-06-18 16:14:00	RvbecbJPe	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:14:14	vAjJRfpdZbFZ	In an IRC client, there is no difference between two channels on the same server and two channels on different server. Switching between channels is seamlessly.
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2021-06-18 16:14:14	GUjYqrehOXt	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:14:18	jMIsgMuGh	Because this whole thing is about one person being sh*tty?
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2021-06-18 16:14:30	cDpwRepGdFoT	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:14:35	SRFQrrXsFOKa	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 16:14:45	cXoSbzDwIrg	these channels weren't abandoned, chatting one minute and banned the next isn't "abandoned"
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2021-06-18 16:14:47	GKxwOVsXEJ	Github is in an implied contract with its users - it provides free infrastructure for people to store their git repos, and in return it is considered the most prominent place to store git repos. Part of that contract is that what you store on Github belongs to you, not Github.
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2021-06-18 16:14:50	YwhOMEVT	What about it? Nobody said anyone could be immune from having their reputation hurt, that's not what we were talking about.
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2021-06-18 16:14:52	jMIsgMuGh	Because this whole thing is about one person being sh*tty?
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2021-06-18 16:14:56	PnZxniZwcsfY	Seirdy 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:14:59	yHIPiLzOgON	The Matrix ecosystem is the only thing I can think of, that could eventually replace IRC. (There might be others, I am just not familiar with them)
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2021-06-18 16:15:02	cXoSbzDwIrg	these channels weren't abandoned, chatting one minute and banned the next isn't "abandoned"
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2021-06-18 16:15:04	cDpwRepGdFoT	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:15:05	vAjJRfpdZbFZ	In an IRC client, there is no difference between two channels on the same server and two channels on different server. Switching between channels is seamlessly.
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2021-06-18 16:15:11	SjXiaVmP	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
2021-06-18 16:15:11	ZJLnkizXmoGZ	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 16:15:16	vIuAKxUYsy	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:15:26	jMIsgMuGh	Because this whole thing is about one person being sh*tty?
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2021-06-18 16:15:28	ZJLnkizXmoGZ	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 16:15:29	UhPjKlFQDsE	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:15:30	LQcckqFoeKN	IRC has awful UX on a phone, and I say this as a guy with a sophisticated weechat+Pushbullet setup going on. The benefits of being able to get on IRC from your NetBSD toaster aren't really benefits at all because you always have a phone. Users want slack/discord-like presence. They want push notifications on hilights. They don't want to have to futz about with znc or tmux+irssi.
2021-06-18 16:15:30	AbuIHFWeTkVI	reply
2021-06-18 16:15:31	gycbdAgGaLX	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:15:33	yHIPiLzOgON	The Matrix ecosystem is the only thing I can think of, that could eventually replace IRC. (There might be others, I am just not familiar with them)
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2021-06-18 16:15:44	ITKwctPVu	mormegil 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 16:15:45	VleQEOwrBxLF	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:15:45	ZJLnkizXmoGZ	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 16:15:46	MeEuuKuRae	Whoa, that’s interesting. Seems like they made a bot to do this anytime a channel mentions Libera
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2021-06-18 16:15:53	cXoSbzDwIrg	these channels weren't abandoned, chatting one minute and banned the next isn't "abandoned"
2021-06-18 16:15:54	itXxTaGapfw	Zababa 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:15:59	jYtaBnEmBt	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:16:00	jMIsgMuGh	Because this whole thing is about one person being sh*tty?
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2021-06-18 16:16:05	cUlEhbzT	Because he wants to control all of it.
2021-06-18 16:16:05	FaMjqTkXD	“And any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all.”
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2021-06-18 16:16:14	nnLdRtealuzL	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:16:17	KAxCRJklE	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:16:17	JMMCGQdREmZR	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:16:18	DOjpjHSlbJpm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:16:19	ZJLnkizXmoGZ	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 16:16:21	lASlNiHi	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:16:27	cXoSbzDwIrg	these channels weren't abandoned, chatting one minute and banned the next isn't "abandoned"
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2021-06-18 16:16:45	itXxTaGapfw	Zababa 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:16:49	VHVhjJviBe	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:16:53	jYtaBnEmBt	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:16:58	ITKwctPVu	mormegil 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:17:02	RVaterbVcMRG	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 16:17:07	FMhaPSOmV	https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c164679...
2021-06-18 16:17:07	JcehbmrlhSuB	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
2021-06-18 16:17:08	jMIsgMuGh	Because this whole thing is about one person being sh*tty?
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2021-06-18 16:17:09	DOjpjHSlbJpm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:17:18	cXoSbzDwIrg	these channels weren't abandoned, chatting one minute and banned the next isn't "abandoned"
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2021-06-18 16:17:27	woReKsal	This article also has some interesting background info on Lee and his motivations: https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/
2021-06-18 16:17:29	lASlNiHi	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
2021-06-18 16:17:29	CYvESOcef	Self-censorship is the wrong response. Libera is the real Freenode community, just under a different name now.
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2021-06-18 16:17:35	dpUiDlgwlZnf	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:17:35	DyIaCbqo	I don't use any such services, so you'll need to ask elsewhere.
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2021-06-18 16:17:37	jjEbBheZdwm	nice to see this freenode situation is finally calming down... /s
2021-06-18 16:17:37	ALMydbquJ	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
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2021-06-18 16:17:43	brJqgkkTM	I wonder what is their motivation? Do they just want to get rid of the irc and reuse the "brand" for something else?
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2021-06-18 16:17:47	FaMjqTkXD	“And any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all.”
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2021-06-18 16:17:54	AcbYpNHkrL	kekebo 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 16:17:55	icEFKbAY	AlexandrB 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:18:00	DOjpjHSlbJpm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:18:06	MVQcNVgf	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:18:10	itXxTaGapfw	Zababa 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:18:21	awJFUEhNG	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:18:25	cTsNLSte	We also got a number of channels totalling a few hundred names hijacked from chanserv, because of 'libera.chat' in the topic. No contact, nothing. We aren't even a F/OSS project, but a hackerspace. 10 years of a chanserv registration, gone, just like that.
2021-06-18 16:18:26	dpUiDlgwlZnf	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:18:28	jjEbBheZdwm	nice to see this freenode situation is finally calming down... /s
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2021-06-18 16:18:30	BYunZGBfy	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:18:33	xwhmaodvN	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:18:35	woReKsal	This article also has some interesting background info on Lee and his motivations: https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/
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2021-06-18 16:18:37	lrcgDhHXdkeg	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:18:38	FaMjqTkXD	“And any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all.”
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2021-06-18 16:18:51	DOjpjHSlbJpm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:18:52	FMhaPSOmV	https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c164679...
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2021-06-18 16:18:55	FaMjqTkXD	“And any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all.”
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2021-06-18 16:19:04	iTHdztrs	None of that is insurmountable, but they have to apply their effort in the most efficient way possible.
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2021-06-18 16:19:18	LvZsdMGocXL	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
2021-06-18 16:19:18	IscDUgEPovA	It's totally not getting spammed by spambots and you can totally just ignore unregistered users too!
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2021-06-18 16:19:19	fMLcgBxSq	speeder 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 16:19:19	jjEbBheZdwm	nice to see this freenode situation is finally calming down... /s
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2021-06-18 16:19:21	BYunZGBfy	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:19:22	KwdVcYqi	In theory I agree, but imagine if you were running a large community and your number 2 just took it all away from you. I would pretty upset, even if in theory I should support all FOSS projects.
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2021-06-18 16:19:23	wuWJSoKFsLfO	Jiejeing 2 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:19:25	DOjpjHSlbJpm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:19:46	XIzbmmVnygOI	I genuinely wonder how stupid one has to be to think that this was a good strategy.  Has the person who came up with this idea ever met people? This kind of thing regularly blows up private platforms, on an open protocol like IRC this was guaranteed to trigger a swift mass migration. 
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2021-06-18 16:19:52	SulUCogohYwd	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:19:55	OfCtUKufcuR	vertis 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:20:00	SAXNOHGEM	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:20:05	vsiQRFnZjR	How do you switch between different servers or different channels? In my IRC setup, I can switch to the next channel with activity with the press of a key. Or get a list of channels with a search input to jump to.
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2021-06-18 16:20:13	KwdVcYqi	In theory I agree, but imagine if you were running a large community and your number 2 just took it all away from you. I would pretty upset, even if in theory I should support all FOSS projects.
2021-06-18 16:20:15	xXuAvzKdOS	reply
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2021-06-18 16:20:36	lrcgDhHXdkeg	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:20:37	fYKHSpHC	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
2021-06-18 16:20:38	QvSEpJafXgb	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:20:43	IscDUgEPovA	It's totally not getting spammed by spambots and you can totally just ignore unregistered users too!
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2021-06-18 16:20:59	yVlABETLQB	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:21:09	nvSuQcDm	blibble 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:21:24	TtOHQNVQYU	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:21:36	kUtZnalxFXbl	Arathorn 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:21:40	iqEvhOYivf	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 16:21:51	BsCSUdIz	Fuck Andrew Lee
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2021-06-18 16:22:03	QFRHtbPH	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:22:05	CitnHZHRW	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:22:08	BsCSUdIz	Fuck Andrew Lee
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2021-06-18 16:22:09	NsWwMrRDCYf	Great job, Andrew Lee. 
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2021-06-18 16:22:16	ZllPnhrAqRE	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 16:22:18	HfNRTjWxZOW	cookguyruffles 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:22:24	JFFkkDUB	Dendrite is another homeserver that is good enough to run as a daily driver, and there's a community developed Rust one, Conduit, that's making steady progress.
2021-06-18 16:22:26	NsWwMrRDCYf	Great job, Andrew Lee. 
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2021-06-18 16:45:38	VETlNlZhVKN	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:45:55	YFWlgxAY	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:46:07	OfiuNcTnaOLQ	1propionyl 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:46:22	KHJhQYOqM	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:46:37	XZqBAyWdaE	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:46:47	OlJyCnKVuj	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:47:09	HTDwjxllwTNO	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 16:47:26	vzKLnRZw	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 16:47:33	stmEjiGTb	db48x 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:47:36	HblGsYqIdeps	- You're a for-profit operation that took over a non-profit one. You need to be very clear and very detailed about outlining how you want to keep the profit interest and community interest separate, and actually follow through on what you promise.
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2021-06-18 16:47:41	sbDKgxrJj	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:47:51	clnPbFAyB	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:47:59	jlaVEKsF	welterde 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:48:29	ZNifxVtqO	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 16:48:42	clnPbFAyB	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:48:50	yvmnlDGHx	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 16:49:04	eWQWFmYlNQm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:49:42	UXqYtSjbBpG	CyberDildonics 2 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 16:49:44	DrCsvsLyuDLR	The stupid hijackers of Freenode are pushing themselves for a huge streisand effect.
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2021-06-18 16:49:49	XtvueiNQeM	But I doubt you'll achieve that by single-handedly destroying one of the biggest IRC networks out there and basically guaranteeing folks won't want to work with you.
2021-06-18 16:49:51	MxNVqVCs	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:49:54	QfMcaArt	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:50:03	JZDGJbpUPtq	What should I have done differently?
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2021-06-18 16:50:12	eWQWFmYlNQm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:50:54	JZDGJbpUPtq	What should I have done differently?
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2021-06-18 16:51:06	dkNYgfHW	It has a webapp, but it does not work "perfectly fine" in my experience. The UX is bewilderingly complex; it took me several minutes to figure out how to make it stop ringing more bells and whistles than a las vegas casino. I had a hard time even figuring out what symbols were meant to be buttons that get clicked; even finding the settings screen was a pain in the ass. It's truly awful.
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2021-06-18 16:51:20	BRRyvIpjjTIc	The dust is still settling, so please wait. Active development and negotiations are ongoing between the Libera and Matrix.org folks. It's a tumultuous time and everyone's trying hard.
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2021-06-18 16:51:54	eWQWFmYlNQm	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:52:39	JZDGJbpUPtq	What should I have done differently?
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2021-06-18 16:52:45	zHkYEVFi	thechao 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:53:02	BRRyvIpjjTIc	The dust is still settling, so please wait. Active development and negotiations are ongoing between the Libera and Matrix.org folks. It's a tumultuous time and everyone's trying hard.
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2021-06-18 16:53:10	uVwvIrepOZt	It's hilarious that rasengan is complaining about Libera "fracturing the FOSS community".[0]
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2021-06-18 16:54:36	bvvukEpg	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
2021-06-18 16:54:37	dZsrXRHwMNr	This network is run by the old staff that Andrew Lee evicted last week to seize the network. Libera cares about foss and will help you transition your project.
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2021-06-18 16:55:09	uVwvIrepOZt	It's hilarious that rasengan is complaining about Libera "fracturing the FOSS community".[0]
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2021-06-18 16:55:29	nlwQtaFlvmn	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 16:55:35	zHkYEVFi	thechao 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 16:55:37	BlDpfrcSMd	Self-censorship is the wrong response. Libera is the real Freenode community, just under a different name now.
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2021-06-18 16:55:48	LdbWQtru	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:56:05	LdbWQtru	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:56:26	zHkYEVFi	thechao 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 16:56:26	DBQbSeOzuO	Driving away the "free beer" guys to turn it to corporate chat so then VCs will invest and pump up their valuation to the moon and then dump it in the public markets and buy yachts?
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2021-06-18 16:56:35	qBINfbfgkr	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 16:58:00	bvvukEpg	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 16:59:28	sYGRzBXrh	[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8nbgyu/messages_in_i...
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2021-06-18 16:59:56	QyCCPCRzLPMg	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:00:19	sYGRzBXrh	[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8nbgyu/messages_in_i...
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2021-06-18 17:00:31	JGwClcvHLYhb	London Trust Media was sold and most of those things were the doing of the old owners.
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2021-06-18 17:00:38	wXzTjkcLS	> There is no lock-in. They're actually closing down channels that don't want to use their service. Think about it. These channels don't want to use freenode. Freenode closes them and everyone cries.
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2021-06-18 17:02:01	hszcbVvlqCQa	q3k 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 17:11:08	YGxmiFvVmcL	[0] - See e.g. https://github.blog/2020-03-26-february-service-disruptions-... for the level of detail I'm talking about.
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2021-06-18 17:20:55	iwJnHZxHtZl	I am not following the whole story but how does the crime profit anyone ? Who wins what ?
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2021-06-18 17:21:30	VauAUXwhlx	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:21:36	ibyijJijS	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 17:21:39	uMqVXTDNnGG	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:21:49	SjhKzxVDRw	> Andrew was repeatedly asked in the "policy discussion channel" whether slurs, racism and transphobia are now permitted on Freenode. No answer has been forthcoming.
2021-06-18 17:21:49	KswQeSQL	It's reached the point where I now have a mental heuristic that anyone claiming "cancel culture" is the one in the wrong, and this heuristic is almost always right. It's really just a shorthand "How could I have known there would have been consequences for my terrible actions?!", with said actions typically being completely unrelated to any issues of speech policing (as we see here).
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2021-06-18 17:22:02	ELsLjWcopb	With email, you see a lot more diversity in UX experiences between clients.
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2021-06-18 17:22:02	jnKbmdPfRF	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 17:22:12	rzikCAFaVa	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 17:22:19	ObKmHkKrLEML	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
2021-06-18 17:22:20	lcsoxeRsn	> IIRC it was XML heavy. Everything was an XML file. Every message. I know XML will have it's fans but for an instant messaging app that create a hell of a lot of overhead.
2021-06-18 17:22:21	VauAUXwhlx	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:22:23	KswQeSQL	It's reached the point where I now have a mental heuristic that anyone claiming "cancel culture" is the one in the wrong, and this heuristic is almost always right. It's really just a shorthand "How could I have known there would have been consequences for my terrible actions?!", with said actions typically being completely unrelated to any issues of speech policing (as we see here).
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2021-06-18 17:22:56	HVprWaDZFJG	welterde 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 17:22:57	ojwsAgvpvr	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:23:04	QWXBQZDCJJoJ	I chose to move the official IRC channel for my FOSS project to a different server, so I registered the new channel on the new server, and updated the topic in the old channel to say it was no longer the official channel and where the new one is.
2021-06-18 17:23:04	TujXuxAZhI	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:23:14	RPfSAwPmgzD	reply
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2021-06-18 17:23:31	iwJnHZxHtZl	I am not following the whole story but how does the crime profit anyone ? Who wins what ?
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2021-06-18 17:23:31	ePgTkhhARa	ircops and drama? Tale as old as time.
2021-06-18 17:23:33	dKaSgtPIPd	Hackaday had a good write-up:
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2021-06-18 17:23:49	azxJIpXsq	Any good CLI clients for Matrix?
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2021-06-18 17:23:52	yIthPNaDnue	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:23:55	WcNyhfubKRW	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
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2021-06-18 17:23:56	hticxBMWPH	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 17:24:06	ZucOqpnwpglS	vehementi 3 days ago [–]
2021-06-18 17:24:08	XtVBKZEC	It's totally not getting spammed by spambots and you can totally just ignore unregistered users too!
2021-06-18 17:24:08	NpCajcCmW	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 17:24:22	pNVCBYCTOGeL	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 17:24:36	kHJUYyQOoih	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:24:41	LhmGZNsOAc	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 17:24:42	YecTcgxhp	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:24:46	uMqVXTDNnGG	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:24:51	jMDceYEEAGr	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 17:24:56	ojwsAgvpvr	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 17:25:08	nfaMcGgvfr	"The policy!" As if it's some holy relic to be revered. Things changed, the policy changed. Where is the sense of entitlement coming from?
2021-06-18 17:25:09	aWadiIwbn	reply
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2021-06-18 17:25:13	pNVCBYCTOGeL	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 17:25:15	szANNExvrZ	This scorched earth policy is only going to make them look petty and childish, and cost them in the long run. 
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2021-06-18 17:25:15	RWIlKvXly	nice to see this freenode situation is finally calming down... /s
2021-06-18 17:25:16	VyuwAxfTaVQ	Karrot_Kream 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 17:25:29	WcNyhfubKRW	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
2021-06-18 17:25:29	HVprWaDZFJG	welterde 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 17:25:37	zxikEfiPiK	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 19:08:04	MHzmIhCmz	wearywanderer 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 19:08:15	JtpwEFxz	reply
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2021-06-18 19:08:40	LmCACqAerPBx	> There was also a lack of decent clients for XMPP. To be fair, this isn't XMPP's fault but rather the lack of adoption. But because XMPP was something that Google or others would use as a base to build their own IM network from, all of the good XMPP clients were locked into specific networks rather than like with IRC or Matrix clients that are designed to run on any network.
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2021-06-18 19:08:44	WFSwFrIPYX	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 19:08:48	XySaGuloDSha	I apologize for this being communicated poorly. This is entirely my fault, and I take all the blame for that. "
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2021-06-18 19:08:48	vfopmJdNgC	Interesting policy update from diffing the police page on Arvive.org:
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2021-06-18 19:09:00	NNIwLmHPve	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 19:09:04	cRicNCSquV	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
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2021-06-18 19:10:55	fedqMtaRQdk	Without moderation, chat often turns into a spam sewer. The ability to run your own server isn't the problem, the ability and willingness to moderate it is.
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2021-06-18 19:11:10	MNMPtBeBG	Andrew Lee is the one crapping on the channel owners by hijacking their channels.
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2021-06-18 19:11:12	XLwZIkkmeCd	For example, try referencing another platform or payment system in an iOS app ;)
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2021-06-18 19:11:30	BYvfufLfXlFX	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 19:11:44	qytpkRkWaMbi	> I bet it would take less than a minute to get banned for bring up freenode on libera.
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2021-06-18 19:21:48	SmashingX	I have a weird issue, there was a subdirectory in my .gitignore file which I have already removed. Now I have removed all the contents of that .gitignore file and commited and pushed, then I tried to add that previous ignored directory by doing git status but git doesn't recognize that there's a new directory I want to add
2021-06-18 19:22:27	SmashingX	I have also tried 'git rm -r --cached *'
2021-06-18 19:22:33	SmashingX	and then git add .
2021-06-18 19:22:34	SmashingX	but nothing
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2021-06-18 19:40:37	 *	AjDjali Aaron :)
2021-06-18 19:40:46	@Aaron	Thank you AjDjali ;)
2021-06-18 19:40:49	@AjDjali	:))
2021-06-18 19:41:02	@AjDjali	enjoy my friend
2021-06-18 19:41:38	@Aaron	Thank you brother man ;)
2021-06-18 19:41:45	@Aaron	You as well.
2021-06-18 19:42:24	@AjDjali	to enjoy while we are young
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2021-06-18 19:42:50	leah	is this official?
2021-06-18 19:42:52	@AjDjali	.op leah
2021-06-18 19:42:55	@Aaron	Has anyone use python 3.9?
2021-06-18 19:43:03	@Aaron	Lately?
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2021-06-18 19:43:30	@AjDjali	normal to be officially bro
2021-06-18 19:44:18	@AjDjali	Aaron I don't know bro I just enter through the script here and watch and enjoy a bit and I don't know English well if I'm from Swiss
2021-06-18 19:44:56	@Aaron	Oh you are doing a great AjDjali 
2021-06-18 19:45:02	@Aaron	With your English ;)
2021-06-18 19:45:13	@leah	at
2021-06-18 19:45:16	@leah	ah
2021-06-18 19:45:22	SmashingX	I have a weird issue, there was a subdirectory in my .gitignore file which I have already removed. Now I have removed all the contents of that .gitignore file and commited and pushed, then I tried to add that previous ignored directory by doing git status but git doesn't recognize that there's a new directory I want to add
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2021-06-18 19:45:34	@leah	AjDjali is an op here too. well i have no need to be here, but thanks for inviting me, AjDjali 
2021-06-18 19:45:38	@leah	i will leave now
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2021-06-18 19:48:01	@Aaron	Lol
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2021-06-18 19:48:15	@AjDjali	Aaron
2021-06-18 19:48:23	@Aaron	Yeah buddy 
2021-06-18 19:48:31	@AjDjali	people don't know how to enjoy bro
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2021-06-18 19:48:43	@Aaron	Indeed 
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2021-06-18 19:49:28	@AjDjali	yeah i thought i made friends here and some time ago we were joking we were joking we were allowed and that's it
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2021-06-18 19:50:57	@Aaron	Its okay 👍 to joke around when people are trying to get to know each other.
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2021-06-18 20:17:34	@AjDjali	Aaron 
2021-06-18 20:17:41	@Aaron	AjDjali, 
2021-06-18 20:17:55	@AjDjali	bro I'm going to rest be me good I'll talk to you
2021-06-18 20:18:10	@Aaron	Alright buddy thank you and rest
2021-06-18 20:18:16	@Aaron	Have a good night 💤 
2021-06-18 20:18:40	@AjDjali	thank you and I wish you well too
2021-06-18 20:19:33	@Aaron	Thanks brother man :)
2021-06-18 20:19:37	@Aaron	Same to you
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2021-06-18 20:28:49	fxqGIGjVlwr	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
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2021-06-18 20:29:07	ZbcHvBvc	I’d characterize more as an entity was created ex-post-facto in 2017 and then sold to an asshat.
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2021-06-18 20:29:21	hcdjdbfBYAGw	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 20:29:25	ZjGhzhrwVaS	I think weechat-matrix is the most mature option
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2021-06-18 20:29:40	pxFdYrKI	This is exactly the situation DiscFerret has found itself in. We were bridging to guarantee a smooth transition... within hours of changing the topic to point to the new chat, they took over our channels.
2021-06-18 20:29:40	dwdhIKWSoKE	KiwiIRC? Even if I were to ignore the association with LTM, why should or would I give a damn about the opinions of the author of a client I have never and will never use?
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2021-06-18 20:29:42	KpOfLdWGGBEi	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 20:29:57	fxqGIGjVlwr	The irony is that we were planning on a progressive transition to Libera via bridging to make sure everything went smoothly for everyone and that we didn't split the community. Now, well, there's nothing to do but just move cold turkey.
2021-06-18 20:29:58	JwxOChbBs	e3bc54b2 3 days ago [–]
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2021-06-18 20:29:59	utnqaHSQwq	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 20:30:01	DCXpHdBsvKn	Andrew Lee likes sucking hot asian guy's dicks and has a chode himself.
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2021-06-18 20:30:23	@Aaron	;X
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2021-06-18 20:31:48	@Aaron	Lol
2021-06-18 20:31:51	@Aaron	;X
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